October 9, 2020

At the Truth-and-Life Café...

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 ... you can talk about whatever you like.

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59 comments:

Josephbleau said...

What a beautiful 80 DegF Fall day in Chicago. Life is great. I work and do my homework at home on the deck above the city in the deep orange yellow October sun under a cloudless aquamarine sky. Is your inside greater than your outside? Today they are equal.

Lawrence Person said...

Enjoy a Friday LinkSwarm.

mockturtle said...

Research 'China, Belt and Road Initiative' and be concerned. Be very concerned. BTW, the Wiki article isn't up to date. BC, Canada has compounds there as well as Mohave County here in AZ.

Chuck said...

So Trump now proposes a stimulus package that is LARGER than the current Pelosi/House Dem proposal.

Well, okay! That should be easy to negotiate, right?

Perhaps there is a four-dimensional-chess angle that I am not seeing. The Althouse blog commenters may be able to explain it to me.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-says-wants-bigger-stimulus-than-gop-democrats-asking-for.amp

Temujin said...

This should most definitely be the last year of the Commission on Presidential Debates. This elite, old Washington establishment-filled consortium has worked for years against Republican candidates. It used to be a bit more subtle, but nonetheless the results have always produced a sham. Year after year the Republican candidate and voters walk away from these debates asking why this or that particular moderator was selected, or why that network when it is clear that the moderator is asking questions only someone on the Left would ask, and ignoring any pointed serious questions that someone on the right would ask.

In other words, the entire premise of these things is from a Left perspective.

Who are these people and why have we handed them such power after all these years? I say, in all seriousness, I'm ready for the Joe Rogan debate. Or someone like him. Just one non-biased, apolitical, but intelligent moderator alone in a room with both candidates for 2 hours. 2 breaks. Let them go at it. Two men (or women) enter, one man (or woman) leaves.

As is, the country is about to elect a ticket in which both members of that ticket have been hiding and/or refusing to answer any serious questions. Buyer beware.

bagoh20 said...

The alleged militia uprising that didn't actually happen is going to seem pretty silly compared to what we have coming our way.

"Left Recruits 600k Poll Workers to Ensure ‘Fair Election’"

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/09/left-recruits-600k-poll-workers-to-ensure-fair-election/

I wonder if they will get the Black Supremacists to show up with clubs at polls again, and end up with over 100% of the vote going to Democrats, because that actually happened in Philly in 2008.

If any of these people fuck with me when I'm voting, I'll probably need a lawyer.

William said...

The last season of The Good Place kind of sputtered out. It wasn't a heap of flaming horseshit like Game of Thrones nor even as dispiriting as the ending of Huckleberry Finn, but it wasn't very good. The show just sort of staggered along and then gave up.....The first season was far and away the best. So far as I know this was the first sitcom that explored the comic potential of Kant and his Categorical Imperative. There was that neat plot twist at the end, but it really did explore appearance and reality and the difference between noumena and phenomena......The last season ventured into deep waters but clung to the inner tube of political correctness.. There was a Trump like character with a recurring role. The show established that he was irredeemable and beyond saving. All the other characters improved with time and effort and were thus equipped to pass into nothingness which is our ultimate destination in the afterlife. WTF. ....The show subverted its examination of ethics by being way too politically correct. Isn't it possible that there's some eternal truth or edifying moral code that is not politically correct?

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

if you're a Leftie, and not into Truth, or Life, like Steve Scully

and you get caught red-handed

...just say "I've been hacked !!".

How many ProgLibDems have pulled that one so far?

Big Mike said...

I read that Joe Biden took off his mask to cough. That guy is not one for thinking, is he?

rcocean said...

The NYT and Wapo are lying full time about Trump. They tell one lie, like TRUMP IN ON DEATHS DOOR, and when its proven wrong, they just move on to the next anti-Trump lie. Meanwhile, Biden is lying about packing the court, fracking, and his whole left-wing agenda.

BTW, isn't it strange that we're no longer getting daily death tolls and case numbers from the MSM. There's hysteria over mask wearing but otherwise its fading away.

madAsHell said...

Mike Pompeo announcing that Hillary's 30.000 emails about yoga, and wedding plans are soon to be released....before the election!!

wild chicken said...

Just watched Created Equal. Highly recommend.

I still don't know who I believe. But I remember there was a lot of loose talk in the workplace back then. To describe an incident with a somber affect would make it sound terrible. To laugh would make it sound like the silly horseshit it was.

We're much more proper now.


narciso said...

And the composition of this stimulus is?

Flat Tire said...

What Temujin said. I always read your comments.

n.n said...

re: Created Equal.

Pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, without diversity, chauvinism, congruence, and justice for all. This is good: Pregnant? Need help. We need to normalize that mother and father are coequal creators of a new human life, not the political, quasi-religious myth of Stork that delivers a baby when she's viable, convenient. And that they have community support to help them help themselves.

I still don't know who I believe

What are the choices?

I think that women and men have four choices: abstention, prevention, adoption, and compassion. Also, Pro-Choice/selective-child, but that's a matter of a peculiar faith, quasi-religious, and ideological bent.

Bay Area Guy said...

Slow Joe Biden is a liar and coward. He's lied repeatedly about Trump's actual comments about the Charlottesville protest. He's a coward, because he won't even answer the question as to whether he supports or opposes a Leftwing court packing plan.

He knows the media won't grill him, so he shamelessly walks (or naps) through life in a fog of lies.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

is it a "Big Fucking Deal"

...that POTUS said "fuck" ?

n.n said...

Joe Biden took off his mask to cough

One of our body's autonomic defenses. He probably doesn't want to swallow a viral load. Still, if he is infected, and this is a symptomatic cough, then he should cover his mouth. The virus can coexist from hours to days on a surface, a slice of bread, and likely the primary transmission mode.

n.n said...

elective abortion... We're much more proper now.

Yes, in the early 20th century mode of proper, behind a wall, in the darkness of privacy, out-of-sight and out-of-mind. Yeah, we should do better. However, unlike one-child, selective-child has been normalized under a quasi-religious ("ethical") proclamation of rites.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Durham’s Investigation Has Taken an Interest A Person Named Daniel Jones

... There needed to be a substitute to take over the role of conduit and messenger to feed the NYT, WaPo, and other media outlets the diet of leaks for their Democrat partisan writers and pundits to push out into the public domain.

Enter Daniel Jones

Sprezzatura said...

“The Althouse blog commenters may be able to explain it to me.”

Is this referring to the thread re DJT’s $1200 check “plan,” where Meade was appreciated by other commenters because of his fussing re DJT had cornered Pelosi?

Meade is funny. Like many here.

IMHO.

narciso said...


Oh
https://mobile.twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1314705917489930245

rcocean said...

Hillary's emails - looking forward to all those emails about the Grand-kids and Bill's trip to Disneyland.

rcocean said...

Trump's interview with a doctor on his CV-19 was fascinating. The Doctor asked Trump if he was scared - or thought about death - anytime during his illness. Had Trump been a seasoned politician he would've blathered about how he was "scared a little" but had faith in the "wonderful medical team" and "was confident" he'd pull through. Female voters love that crap.

Instead, trump just ignored the question, and continued to talk about how wonderful a treatment was, and how he'd make it free to everyone. Vintage Trump.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Look, the WaPo accidentally commits some journalism! About the idiots who plotted to kidnap Whitmer:

Lawrence Hurley
@lawrencehurley
“One of alleged plotters, 23-year-old Daniel Harris, attended a Black Lives Matter protest in June, telling the Oakland County Times he was upset about the killing of George Floyd and police violence.”

https://twitter.com/mattzap/status/1314706380457115654

Yep, one of those right-wing boogaloos, for sure!

Joe Smith said...

"What a beautiful 80 DegF Fall day in Chicago."

I really love Chicago.

For being a borderline shithole city, the parks are first rate. Odd that.

Fantastic food. No shortage of bars. Rabid sports fans.

And really nice mid-west people.

I've ended up there every year for the past 30 for one reason or another.

Too bad the citizens are so goddamn woke they elected a lunatic for a mayor.

JFC.

Joe Smith said...

Btw, Chris Wallace makes Linda Lovelace look like someone who would gag on a party frank...

You know; the little teeny ones?

eddie willers said...

The second photo takes us back to Henri Rousseau land.

n.n said...

So, the President is recovering from the pathogen. The cloned antibodies are one step ahead of conventional vaccines, and reduce their potential side-effects. The "disinfectant" cocktail reduces the viability of the virus in a Planned Pathogen protocol and complements the body's immune system to relieve the "burden".

Peace in the Middle East. Confronting the trade, aggressive expansion, and human rights abuses of the Chinese Communist Party. Standing up to diversity. A judge soon to be Justice Barrett. Addressing progressive prices under Obamacare. A pathogen, one of many, past, present, and future, without safe sanctuary. Make America Great Again. Keep America Great. Pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

Readering said...

I think more people interested in reading Pres. Trump's negative covid tests from last several weeks than Sec of State Clinton's declassified emails from ... when? on ... what, exactly?

StephenFearby said...

NYT Oct. 9, 2020
John Ratcliffe Pledged to Stay Apolitical. Then He Began Serving Trump’s Political Agenda.

The director of national intelligence is said to be planning more disclosures of intelligence that undermines the Russia investigation.

By Julian E. Barnes and Adam Goldman
Maggie Haberman contributed reporting from New York, and Eric Schmitt from Washington.

"...Some former and current officials expressed concern that Republicans might try to undermine the C.I.A.’s key sources, pointing to the recent release of information meant to discredit an F.B.I. informant who played a central role in compiling a dossier on Mr. Trump’s ties to Russia."

That wouldn't happen to be the notorious fake Steele Dossier, would it? Of course, it was! For the edification of your readers, why not just say so?

And that nameless FBI informant, wasn't that Igor “Iggy” Danchenko, previously reported by Paul Sperry in RCP "as a Russian national whose past includes criminal convictions and other personal baggage ignored by the FBI in vetting him and the information he fed to Steele?"

Yup. Of course, actually naming these discredited individuals would cloud and weaken the desired effect of the NYT agitprop.

Naturally, the article didn't have a comments section.

tim maguire said...

Chuck said...So Trump now proposes a stimulus package that is LARGER than the current Pelosi/House Dem proposal.

Well, okay! That should be easy to negotiate, right?

Perhaps there is a four-dimensional-chess angle that I am not seeing.


You can’t rule out some kind of mania from the drugs. But there’s another possibility—the divide between Rs and Ds is only mostly about the pork barrel spending that Ds want to include as a slush fund for lefty initiatives unrelated to COVID, but most of the public thinks of the stimulus checks. So Trump proposes even larger stimulus checks, but only stimulus checks, and dares the Ds to say no.

That’s your 4-D chess.

stevew said...

"Covid cases spike after announcement of November 2 bar and venue reopening"

Headline on October 7. Wtf!

The Durham investigation is all theater, propaganda. Charges will not be brought and filed. How do I know this? Because the president is tweeting that it will produces charges. He agrees with my assessment and is trying to influence and precipitate the action.

Supposed to be a glorious fall day today in the northeast. Mid to upper 70's and sunny. We are celebrating daughter's birthday as well as those of two grand-daughters. It's going to be terrific.

Sunrise at 6:51am today, heading out shortly to make sure nothing goes wrong.

rehajm said...

Twitter going into lockdown next week. Publishers they are.

rehajm said...

Just tried calling @debates to find out what time today they'll be updating the country on the police investigation into
@stevescully's alleged hacking and also to find out if they have any evidence whatsoever in support of the claim. Call goes to a voicemail for a full mailbox.


-Mollie

BUMBLE BEE said...

Hey Joe, where you goin with that phlegm in your hand?
I said , Hey Joe, where you goin with that phlegm in your hand? https://twitter.com/i/status/1314688491368964098 apologies to Jimi

Howard said...

Have to agree with Wild Chicken. We were still doing weekly coed drinking lunches back in those days. Office romances dalliances and flirtations were very common place. Also, sexual innuendo was a regular thing in many informal workplace conversations. Coming to Atlanta, our big oil clients demanded we take them to the Gold Club. It all mostly meant nothing. I also had 2 female manager bosses back then, which seemed ordinary.

exhelodrvr1 said...

Pence should get a plastic fly and put it on his head the next time he is out in public.

Jersey Fled said...

Slow Joe Biden is a liar and coward. He's lied repeatedly about Trump's actual comments about the Charlottesville protest. He's a coward, because he won't even answer the question as to whether he supports or opposes a Leftwing court packing plan.

He's still running tv ads saying Trump is going to cut your Social Security benefits.

Even the Wapo gave him 4 Pinocchio for that one. Months ago.

He's a bare faced liar.

Humperdink said...

Scaramucci confident Steve Scully falls back on Anthony Weiner defense: "I was hacked". Using liberal logic, does that mean Steve Scully is a sexual predator? Someone needs to ask him that. 47 times, in every venue that he surfaces.

Douglas B. Levene said...

The College Fix reports, “The University of Wisconsin-Madison student government recently voted to approve a resolution that supports the removal of the school’s famous Abraham Lincoln statue, arguing it serves as a remnant “‘of this school’s history of white supremacy.’” Wow. The Cultural Revolution, American-style, continues. I guess I would hope that the university president would tell the students to piss off, but that’s a bit too much to hope for.

Ken B said...

The second one is very Caspar David Friederich.

Bruce Hayden said...

Here is something interesting about the COVID-19 pandemic (from Fox News and Q): Total US deaths per year 2017-2020 (projected)

TOTAL U.S. DEATHS [ALL CAUSES]:
2017 Total Deaths US: 2,813,503 (234,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db328.htm📁
2018 Total Deaths US: 2,839,205 (237,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm📁
2019 Total Deaths US: 2,855,000 (238,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm📁
2020 Total Deaths US (jan - week 9/26): 2,130,000 (236,000/month)
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6📁
2,130,000 + (236,000/month x 3) [Oct, Nov, Dec] = 2,838,000 [assumption based on monthly avg]
2020: 2,838,000 [3-month assumption insert]
2019: 2,855,000
2018: 2,839,000
2017: 2,814,000


Given an increasing population, not surprisingly, the yearly total US death toll, year to year, rises over time. Interestingly, the 2020 average total deaths per month (based in the first 9 months of the year) is running at 2018 levels, slightly below 2019, despite all the COVID-19 related deaths.

tim in vermont said...

Fatman trailer

Mel Gibson tries to get back in good with the left, in his latest movie, a young Donald Trump clone, blue suit, red tie, done up hair, puts out a hit on Santa after getting a lump of coal for Christmas.

madAsHell said...

I REALLY despise text messages from strangers encouraging me to vote for.....anyone.


Hi, I'm Amy White, MoveOn's Director of Analytics. We're seeing Trump grow more dangerous by the day. He has threatened to reject the results of the election, and to "get rid of the ballots." He's even repeatedly refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power.

XXX, we must ensure a massive, unquestionable landslide victory that cannot be ignored or undermined.

To do that, we've come up with our high-potential voter program, which engages 7 million "high-potential" progressive voters in 14 battleground states who can make the difference between Biden winning or losing.

We're running ads, sending millions of texts, and creating custom videos, all to ensure they vote for Biden. We know these strategies work and that our plan is backed by data and analytics. But we need your support.

exhelodrvr1 said...

Apparently so far this year non-Covid related deaths are approx 100K higher than expected

MadTownGuy said...

I wonder what this is about:

FBI raids Na Leo offices in Hilo

"Few details were available late Thursday following an FBI raid earlier in the day at Na Leo ‘O Hawaii’s TV studios and offices in Hilo.

Jason White, a special agent at the FBI’s Honolulu office, confirmed Thursday morning that a search warrant was being executed at Na Leo’s location at 91 Mohouli St., but he declined to say why agents searched the premises or what they were seeking.

"The case is ongoing. We’re not going to give out any details other than confirming it is us,” White said.

Asked if Na Leo’s Kona office also was being searched, White replied, “We have a warrant for just the one Big Island location.”
In addition, White said “a number of properties” on Oahu were searched in connection with the investigation, but he declined to specify the property owner or owners or the types of properties.

The scene at Na Leo was relatively low key during the raid. The presence of an unmarked silver sport-utility vehicle blocking the parking lot and a few casually dressed agents sporting badges on lanyards were the only cues a search was being conducted there.

Asked if the search had anything to do with federal funding or if anyone was arrested during the raid, White said it’s “just a search” and said other details might be forthcoming at a later time.

Lt. Rio Amon-Wilkins of the Hawaii Police Department’s Hilo Criminal Investigations Section said county police had not been notified about the federal raid.

The president and CEO of Na Leo is Stacy Higa, a former Hawaii County councilman who finished fifth in a crowded mayoral primary election race in August. He did not return requests from the Tribune-Herald seeking comment.

Micah Alameda, assistant general manager and marketing director of Na Leo, said in a written statement Thursday that “Na Leo TV staff and management are fully cooperating” with investigators.

“We have no further comment or information at this time,” Alameda said.

In the statement, Alameda said a Puna candidates’ forum scheduled for 6:30 p.m. Thursday — featuring mayoral candidates Mitch Roth and Ikaika Marzo and the candidates for Hawaii County Council District 5, incumbent Matt Kaneali‘i-Kleinfelder and challenger Ikaika Rodenhurst — was canceled.

“We are working with the Mainstreet Pahoa Association to reschedule this broadcast,” Alameda said.

“I regret we weren’t able to do the forum (Thursday) night,” said Roth, Hawaii County’s prosecutor. “However, we’ve done several forums, and many of them can be found online.”

“I just talked to the Puna candidate forum officials,” said Marzo, who became a public figure by posting Facebook Live lava updates during the 2018 Kilauea volcano eruption.

“We will be doing it another day,” he said. “So it’s just rescheduling, so we’re just figuring out another time. It’ll be in the next three or four days.”

Bruce Hayden said...


Senator Bob Dole
@SenatorDole
The Commission on Presidential Debates is supposedly bipartisan w/ an equal number of Rs and Ds. I know all of the Republicans and most are friends of mine. I am concerned that none of them support @realDonaldTrump. A biased Debate Commission is unfair.

walter said...

"Meanwhile, Biden is lying about packing the court.."
That's debatable.
He's not falling for Trump's game to get him to actually answer.
"I'm not joking!"


walter said...

Senator Bob Dole
@SenatorDole
The Commission on Presidential Debates is supposedly bipartisan w/ an equal number of Rs and Ds. Bob Dole knows all of the Republicans and most are friends of Bob Dole. Bob Dole is concerned that none of them support @realDonaldTrump. A biased Debate Commission is unfair.

tim in vermont said...

For one thing Yancey, the number of deaths per week begins climbing in October every year. On average, 10,000 people more die per week in late December than in August so using a flat prediction is misleading to start with.

For another thing, those links don’t seem to really point to anything helpful in understanding how Q arrived at those numbers.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

So let’s get into the weeds, I downloaded weekly numbers from the cdc:

March thru May 2020 observed deaths compared to equivalent weeks in 2019

2020-03-07 United States 59,593 - 2019: 58,089
2020-03-14 United States 58,597 - 2019: 58,669
2020-03-21 United States 59,147 - 2019: 58,022
2020-03-28 United States 62,945 - 2019: 57,220 +5K
2020-04-04 United States 72,188 - 2019: 56,777 +16K
2020-04-11 United States 78,981 - 2019: 56,713 +22K
2020-04-18 United States 77,128 - 2019: 55,635 +22K
2020-04-25 United States 74,224 - 2019: 54,590 +20K
2020-05-02 United States 69,599 - 2019 : 53,786 +16K
2020-05-09 United States 67,108 - 2019: 54,118 +13K
2020-05-16 United States 64,760 - 2019: 53,613 +11K
2020-05-23 United States 61,862 - 2019: 53,684 +8K
2020-05-30 United States 59,930 - 2019: 53,828 +6K

March thru May 2019 raw data in case you don’t trust me.

2019-03-02 United States 58,089
2019-03-09 United States 58,669
2019-03-16 United States 58,022
2019-03-23 United States 57,220
2019-03-30 United States 56,777
2019-04-06 United States 56,713
2019-04-13 United States 55,635
2019-04-20 United States 54,590
2019-04-27 United States 53,786
2019-05-04 United States 54,118
2019-05-11 United States 53,613
2019-05-18 United States 53,684
2019-05-25 United States 53,828

Are you thinking that fewer people died outside of the peak months because they were all going to die within a few weeks anyway so the numbers smoothed out over the year? Because I don’t see it. Maybe you can explain more fully what those links are supposed to mean? My guess is a math error or pure dishonesty is also possible. There are no weeks since late March where fewer people died in 2020 than 2019, it’s easy to check because almost all of the weeks in 2020 start with a 6 at least except about 5 of them, and all weeks in 2019 start with a 5, and those weeks that started with a 5 in 2020 (> 50K and < 60K) all were still higher than the equivalent week in 2019.

I hate to be the one to break this to you, but people over 50 vote and those are some not nice numbers for people over 50 in QAnon’s post. I know people over seventy, and guess what? They still enjoy life. I am not sure what your point is.

And just because you want to believe something really badly doesn’t make it true.

tim in vermont said...

"He's not falling for Trump's game to get him to actually answer.”

Right, he’s not going to be tricked into telling the American people what they are voting for, he’s waaaay too smaht for that.

Next he should be asked about fracking. Is he gonna ban it or not? Voters don’t have any right to know, I guess.

tim in vermont said...

"Apparently so far this year non-Covid related deaths are approx 100K higher than expected”

Yeah, there is a lot of grasping at straws going on. My mom died of a heart attack in May, she was sick with the flu in mid march, said her lungs were rattling when she breathed, couldn’t taste anything, then a blood clot hit her heart, she had a heart attack, and it took six weeks for her to pass on. Not a COVID death, I guess. She was never tested, but all of it, including the blood clot, points to COVID. We can’t accurately count COVID deaths yet. Sure there are other deaths that were caused by the hospitals being overrun and by fear of going to the hospital or the doctor, but it’s not half.

tim in vermont said...

Not to mention that the excess deaths line up so well with the two spikes in cases. Grasping at straws.

Chennaul said...

Given an increasing population, not surprisingly, the yearly total US death toll, year to year, rises over time. Interestingly, the 2020 average total deaths per month (based in the first 9 months of the year) is running at 2018 levels, slightly below 2019, despite all the COVID-19 related deaths.

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Car accidents, those have probably dropped due to shutdowns.

Matt Sablan said...

"This should most definitely be the last year of the Commission on Presidential Debates."

-- The debates have been bad since I was a kid, and have only gotten worse. The primary debates are an even bigger fiasco, like all the times members of Democrat nominees' campaigns manage to ask Republicans questions during the Republican primary as an undecided Republican voter. The entire debate and media infrastructure needs to be ripped out and redone from top to bottom.

Matt Sablan said...

"He's a bare faced liar."

-- I heard he wears the biggest masks.

walter said...

Dan O'Donnell Retweeted
Andy Ngô
@MrAndyNgo
·
1h
A left-wing protester at an antifa Denver rally shot and killed a conservative participant of the patriot rally. This follows the August killing of a Trump supporter in Portland by an antifa shooter.

CStanley said...

Condolences on the loss of your mom, Tim.