September 27, 2020

A strange image, from Joe Biden: "We got to stop pouring flames on the fire."



Pouring flames? On fire?

The context is his remarks yesterday to the US Conference of Mayors (transcript):
This moment we’re facing now, isn’t a partisan moment. It’s an American moment.... It’s a chance for us to overcome anger and division that has hold [sic] us back of late for far too long. We can emerge from these crises.... If I’m elected, you will have direct access to the White House. I want to thank you all because we need you to build back better. You are the foundation stone, not a joke. You’re the ones leading away.... We got to stop the hate and the division now, we got to stop pouring flames on the fire, we got to start talking straight to the American people.... I’ve never been more optimistic... The blinders have been taken off the American people. They understand what’s going on now. They understand.... They want to get things done... and I want to make sure that your ideas are the ones that are funneled up. They don’t have to go through a state legislature, go through a governor. They can go straight to the federal government, straight to me....
Funneled up? I'm trying to picture that. Don't funnels work only downward, through gravity? Oh, I don't know!



That's a detail from the Hieronymus Bosch painting "Cutting the Stone," which appears at the Wikipedia article "Funnel." There, I learn something about the idea of a funnel working upward instead of downward:
The inverted funnel is a symbol of madness. It appears in many Medieval depictions of the mad; for example, in Hieronymus Bosch's Ship of Fools and Allegory of Gluttony and Lust....
And in "Cutting the Stone." Michel Foucault, "History of Madness," had something to say about that doctor in an inverted funnel hat: "Bosch's famous doctor is far more insane than the patient he is attempting to cure, and his false knowledge does nothing more than reveal the worst excesses of a madness immediately apparent to all but himself."

There's also inverted funnel hat worn by the Tin Woodman in "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz."  It's not mentioned in the text of the book. It comes from the imagination of the the first illustrator,  W. W. Denslow:

89 comments:

Michael K said...

Looking forward to the debate, if Joe actually appears. It will be the first one I have watched in a while.

Fernandinande said...

Did you know? The Scarecrow carried a revolver.

Bay Area Guy said...

Slow Joe sez:

"We got to stop the hate and the division now, we got to stop pouring flames on the fire, we got to start talking straight to the American people."

Why not tell your Democrat supporters to stop throwing the Molotov Cocktails? .

Democrats are crazy people. In fits of rage, they burn down parts of Seattle, Portland, LA, Minneapolis, NYC, and Kenosha - and then their 78-year old, doddering, figurehead candidate tells us to stop the hate.

Truly bizarre.

Are there any Democrat voters left on this blog? The Democrat Party has become stupid & evil.

Lee Moore said...

I think "funneling up" is fine. A funnel usually works downwards because the force that is pushing liquid through the funnel is gravity. But other forces can push stuff through funnels in different directions. You can force cream or icing through a funnel onto the sides of cakes, using a thingummybob that squeezes the stuff out any which way you push it. Water is funnelled up by the force of heat in volcanic springs. And so on.

And in context, Sleepy Joe's scriptwriters are trying to convey the idea of bottom up ideas.

More puzzling though is his reference to his joining the Senate 180 years ago. What could they possibly have put on his teleprompter to get him to say 180 years ? Actually he joined the Senate 47 years ago, but he was elected 48 years ago. But could he really have misread 48 as 180 ?

Or was it one of his youthful henchpersons who, after the devastating effects of ten years or so in an American public school, had to just take a wild guess at 2020 - 1972 ?

David Begley said...

I think Ann is saying that Biden is mad. Who could disagree?

And the Dems and the Fake News want Biden to have the nuke codes.

gilbar said...

does anyone STILL think that there will be a debate this tues?

Unknown said...

I have a dark feeling that this upcoming Presidential Debate is going to be epic, in a ghastly trainwreck kind of way.

Mary Beth said...

I think "funneled up" means trapped up, clogged, as if in a funnel.

Let's don't pick the best ideas. Let's do ALL the ideas! No more funnels or gatekeepers!

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Althouse’s exploration of metaphor here is fascinating! Looking first to Joe's performance on Tuesday.

David Begley said...

Biden’s handlers probably want a train wreck. Easier then to put Kamala on top.

Wince said...

Sen. Zell Miller (D., Ga.) in a letter to the editor of the Washington Post:

More and more, our Democratic chairman, Terry McAuliffe, reminds me of a sub-par golfer desperately in need of a mulligan.

The strength of our party has always been our big tent, but lately our chairman seems to be shrinking that tent to the size of one of those snow-cone cups turned upside down. Well, maybe a little bigger than that, say, a dunce cap.

gilbar said...

breaking news, from Tues, Sept 29th

Tues, Sept 29th 9:00 am
Biden team announced this morning there would be a LID on his appearances, starting at 9am

media response to that breaking news: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

MadisonMan said...

Babbling Biden. And I know people who have (proudly) voted for him already! (sigh)

mikee said...

Adderall, amphetamine, maybe a few mg of that wonderful USP cocaine hydrochloride, perhaps some ginkgo biloba if his physician is under 35 and hip. Biden will be rolling into that debate as the most highly medicated presidential candidate since John Effing Kennedy. Or possibly Teddy K, but that was self-medication, which is scored differently than what the doctor ordered.

In any case, Biden will be the participant suffering from dementia and trying to overcome it. Maybe he'll do some pushups, or fight a stage hand, as a warmup.

Bob Boyd said...

Joe got mixed up. It's not a funnel he uses, it's an ear horn.

mikee said...

Feynman wrote about a rotating water sprinkler, placed in a large water filled vessel, subjected to pressure. Would the rotating head move backwards as water was forced into it from the outside, and into the connected hose?

tim maguire said...

I keep waiting for Biden’s non-campaign to be reflected in the public polling under the expectation that there is a limit to how much weakness they can hide. But so far, Biden is holding steady. Which makes me think this is 100% an anti-Trump constituency with nobody actually supporting Biden. That’s why Biden can campaign for 20-30 min a day. Nobody cares what Biden does.

It’s still a house of cards, though, and the debate can still serve to open people’s eyes to what they are doing voting “anybody but Trump.” All Biden has to do is not scare people, perform well enough that the media can continue to hide his shame. But can he manage that?

AlbertAnonymous said...

Seriously, the guy either has dementia or he’s having a series of strokes on video a la Ron Paul.

Half the time it’s gibberish word salad, and that’s while he’s reading from a teleprompter.

Yikes. Sad

Michael said...

They don’t have to go through a state legislature, go through a governor. They can go straight to the federal government, straight to me....

Thus completing our five decade strangulation of federalism.

MountainMan said...

He makes no sense. The ravings of a man in mental decline.

tcrosse said...

The smoke from a ship's engine goes up through its funnel.

whitney said...

I read an article about Reagan when he was getting deep into the Alzheimer's switching words out. Like he referred to books on a mantle as trees. Technically correct in a weird way. Maybe Biden will also come out with these interesting Bon mots.

Lord Clanfiddle said...

I worry that maybe we're setting the bar too low. A week or so ago I watched Biden at a Wisconsin campaign appearance and he was more or less coherent for 26 minutes. The speech was the usual pack of lies, of course, but he delivered them without too many slips. But the campaign was still resolutely keeping him away from actual voters--ithe speech was at an aluminum foundry, I think--at least there were bars of the stuff stacked all around him--many more bars than people.

Francisco D said...

Joe obviously has aphasia. The question is whether it is from stroke related brain damage or some other insult to the brain. It may not be Alzheimer's. Nonetheless, there is a dementing process that cannot be stopped.

It will only get worse.

Matt Sablan said...

"I keep waiting for Biden’s non-campaign to be reflected in the public polling under the expectation that there is a limit to how much weakness they can hide. But so far, Biden is holding steady."

-- The goal is for Biden to be as much Generic Democrat as possible, because Generic tends to poll better than an actual person.

Quaestor said...

Smokestacks on ships are known as funnels, and their function is to conduct exhaust fumes from the engineering spaces upward.

I think Ann is saying that Biden is mad. Who could disagree?

Biden is a victim of senile dementia, which is closer to stupidity than madness.

Ann Althouse said...

The OED definition of the verb "funnel" begins with an upward concept:

a. intransitive. Of smoke: to issue out or rise up in a funnel-shaped cloud.

1594 T. Nashe Vnfortunate Traveller sig. K2v Before a gun is shot off, a stinking smoake funnels out.
1596 T. Nashe Haue with you to Saffron-Walden sig. N4v A dampe (like the smoake of a Cannon)..would strugglingly funnell vp.

David Begley said...

By all means, give Biden the nuke codes.

LordSomber said...

Biden started the fire!

Ann Althouse said...

When I think of funneling, I picture the wide end as the entry point for a substance that comes out the narrow end, but the OED convinces me that it's fine to say "funneling" when the narrow end is the beginning and the process is one of widening.

There are also funnel clouds -- as in The Wizard of Oz — and these may pull things up from the narrow end at the bottom and raise them up to the wide end at top. Maybe Biden imagines that sort of process as the majors send ideas to the President (except the wide narrow orientation is reversed).

Skeptical Voter said...

Nicholas Goldberg in the Los Angeles Times wrote this morning that Trump is hardly in a position to criticize Biden for misspeaking. Of course the reality is that almost any of us can get into word salad territory when speaking ex tempore. Why Trump said "herd mentality" when he meant "herd immunity"! The horror of it all. And then there's "covfefe".

Nicholas will keep on wanking on until Biden is elected. It's probably going to take a bit longer than Nicholas might wish.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Biden is at least being honest that the primary Dem goal to re-make America into a country where all change comes out of the Imperial City.

Rumpletweezer said...

Wasn't there a lid on his campaign at 9:30am?

Caligula said...

"Don't funnels work only downward, through gravity?"

Well, tornadoes work pretty well to funnel stuff up. But, they're kinda destructive.

Perhaps Biden is trying to say, umm, that he'll clean government Like A White Tornado. At least so long as the MSM doesn't look at Hunter Biden's questionable compensation, or candidate Biden's likely role in it.

Or something. Sometimes even secret decoder rings can't quite decode what Biden's trying to say.

Jerry Goedken said...

Biden senses a concept or metaphor somewhere in his mind, but his brain can’t find the thought or words while careening down a vocal pathway and thus crashes into a confounding word salad. Downstream and upstream are supply chain concepts in very common usage. I watched his CNN Town Hall, Sept. 17, he was talking about economic policy and supply chains and said, “They would in fact, denied that opportunity. I would also make it clear when you, in fact, It’s gotta be, if any of that is being purchased… It will, we will not… Including the downriver line of what has to be done… You can’t do what he’s doing now. You can’t do where, he’s giving tax breaks, and in fact, go overseas, bring there, and then import back!” He had a vague image of what he needed to say, but to say downriver for downstream while babbling is disqualifying, especially when it happens so often.

Quayle said...

I wonder if his “180 years ago” type goofs are a copy of Trump’s inserted inaccurate words, I.e. as a means to draw attention.

tcrosse said...

By all means, give Biden the nuke codes.

If, God Forbid, Biden is elected the people he's fronting for won't trust him with the stapler, let alone the nuke codes.

Michael K said...

Are there any Democrat voters left on this blog? The Democrat Party has become stupid & evil.

Sure there are. Freder, R/V, Readering and readering. ARM and Inga seem to be taking a break.

mccullough said...

The division is between the Far Left and the Left.

CHAZ Zones are going to funnel up to the Biden Administration. Along with arson, looting, vandalism, and murder.

M Jordan said...

For those who think Biden will fail in the upcoming one-on-one with Trump, never forget what a smirking, leering offense did for him against Paul Ryan. He won that debate and he was just as big an asshole then as now. He has perfected the back-slapping, good ol’ boy routine like none other. He’s every junior high PE. teacher you ever hated back in 1965. He can win with this.

But I’m betting Trump knows how to deal with him.

M Jordan said...

For those who think Biden will fail in the upcoming one-on-one with Trump, never forget what a smirking, leering offense did for him against Paul Ryan. He won that debate and he was just as big an asshole then as now. He has perfected the back-slapping, good ol’ boy routine like none other. He’s every junior high PE. teacher you ever hated back in 1965. He can win with this.

But I’m betting Trump knows how to deal with him.

loudogblog said...

About 30 years ago, there was a local band in Orange County named the Swamp Zombies. One of their songs had the following line: "On the day that Hieronymus Bosch died, a funnel was placed on his head."

Achilles said...

This video of Biden saying stupid shit is way better:

Oh hell no.

Achilles said...

So when are the debates going to be cancelled?

JAORE said...

They're gonna put y'all back in chains.

And that was directed at Mittens!

Yep, Trump is the divisive one.

Biden's hat funnel is made of tin foil.

JAORE said...

"What could they possibly have put on his teleprompter to get him to say 180 years ?"

I give Biden a pass on this one. He could have said that as a joke, deliberately exaggerating as riffing on how many years he's actually been a pol.

Hard to tell, He's NOT a funny (ha ha - funny) guy.

JAORE said...

"The blinders have been taken off the American people. They understand what’s going on now. They understand...."

Be careful what you wish for, Joe.

Bilwick said...

Come on, man!

The more you Joe . . .

Breezy said...

He’s telling mayors, presumably Dem ones, to send him their ideas directly.... hmmm yes let’s skip the whole inconvenient purpose of federalism. We don’t need to test anything in the state labs. Cmon man - No time to waste - I’m not a spring chicken you know!

John henry said...

Gateway Pundit mentioned that since labor day pdjt has spoken to 240m potential voters at live campaign events. Biden has spoken to 84.

I would add that millions more have watched pdjt events on the YouTube. Dozens, perhaps hundreds, have watched slow Joe.

Other than clips like this one.

What I'm hoping for Tuesday is for Joe to shit his pants again on camera. I want to see how pdjt reacts.

Just wave his hand, wrinkle his nose and move on?

Say "I think Joe needs a short break to take care of some personal business"

Say "holy crap, Joe, did you just shit yourself?"

I'm going with dignified wave, wrinkle and "who cut the cheese?"

To which Joe can reply "back in Scranton as a kid, we used to say 'first smeller is the feller"

I won't miss this debate for anything.

Tommy Duncan said...

"You are the foundation stone, not a joke. You’re the ones leading away...."

That's some keen insight and powerful rhetoric.

John henry said...

Pdjt also speak fo 60-90 energetic minutes, standing.

Joe speaks for 10-20,usually sitting

John Henry

John henry said...

A blunder uss and a Sousa phone both use reverse funnels. The shot/sound goes into the narrow end of the funnel. From there it broadens out as it leaves the muzzel/instrument

John Henry

Jupiter said...

"The blinders have been taken off the American people"

God. let's hope so.

Joe Smith said...

"They can go straight to the federal government, straight to me...."

It's all about big daddy government...top down...five year plans.

Anyone think Joe sounds more confused than he is because of an implanted earpiece whispering sweet nothings?

I wonder if there will be radio jamming equipment at the debates.

Or will there be agnostic doctors certifying no comms devices?

Anonymous said...

They don’t have to go through a state legislature, go through a governor. They can go straight to the federal government, straight to me....

recycling a Trump plea to the Portland mayor of 6 months ago.

most of Biden plans are things Trump has done.

Anonymous said...

They don’t have to go through a state legislature, go through a governor. They can go straight to the federal government, straight to me....

recycling a Trump plea to the Portland mayor of 6 months ago.

most of Biden plans are things Trump has done.

gadfly said...

Biden's "pouring flames on the fire" is certainly not as bad as Trump's desire to "get rid of ballots" in the coming election.

“I’ve been complaining very strongly about the ballots. And the ballots are a disaster. We want to . . . get rid of the ballots . . . ."

"The ballots are out of control . . . .”


All of those uncast ballots are out of control? How do we vote if not by ballots?

Yancey Ward said...

"I worry that maybe we're setting the bar too low. A week or so ago I watched Biden at a Wisconsin campaign appearance and he was more or less coherent for 26 minutes. The speech was the usual pack of lies, of course, but he delivered them without too many slips."

He was reading that speech. That is the thing about all these appearances where he gives a speech and then leaves without taking questions- he does all of it with a teleprompter. My father had Alzheimers pretty bad at the end, but he could still read things out loud that you handed him- he did this 3 months before his death during his last neurology visit. What was lost is organized thought that is required for extemporaneous speech.

I think Biden's team, if Biden does show up Tuesday, hopes that they can feed him enough talking points during the extemporaneous via an ear device- he was definitely using an ear piece during the CNN townhall last week with Anderson Cooper- there he couldn't use a teleprompter like he has done repeatedly at interviews done from his basement. I watched the townhall- even with cues from his staff in his ear, the very best they could do was redirect him to telling his stock stories that he has told for several years, and even there you can see the dementia setting in as he starts telling proven lies all over again. A non-demented speaker wouldn't keep telling lies has been forced to retract in the past- he has simply forgotten they were lies.

Jupiter said...

Parts of that read like bad transcription; "You’re the ones leading away" should be "You’re the ones leading the way", and so on. But parts just make no sense at all. Is it possible he wrote it himself?

Jupiter said...

"Bosch's famous doctor is far more insane than the patient he is attempting to cure, and his false knowledge does nothing more than reveal the worst excesses of a madness immediately apparent to all but himself."

Wow. That, from Foucault?

In Guard Of Honor, Cozzens has a character absently notice the smoke "voluming" from a factory chimney, as he ponders on a complicated matter. Made me just stop dead, and say "That's not right!". But it was right. Cozzens may be the best author of the twentieth century. I can't think of a better.

Michael K said...

gadfly is the other Biden voter here, I forgot to list.

He is as dopey as the others.

Nobody said anything about no ballots. We are talking about unrequested ballots sent to dead people.

Ceciliahere said...

Joe has asthma and has trouble breathing, That is why at times his voice sounds whispery and weak.. His physicians will give him a shot of epinephrine (adrenaline) or load him up on prednisone a steroid so he will be able to breathe more freely, speak with a stronger voice and look energetic. These medications will hop him up also and he will seem more energetic for a while, then he will again have trouble breathing and speaking and go back to being weak and low energy.

Michael K said...

Blogger M Jordan said...
For those who think Biden will fail in the upcoming one-on-one with Trump, never forget what a smirking, leering offense did for him against Paul Ryan.


Ryan took a dive. Can you see Trump with that Joe smirking and acting crazy ?

"Joe, is there something wrong with your teleprompter ?"

rehajm said...

Joe Biden said he'd be dead and gone by 2020

He got the gone part mostly correct...

John henry said...

Blogger The Drill SGT said...

most of Biden plans are things Trump has done.

Of course. Even his campaign slogan, plagiarized from a 2015 UN program, is a restatement of Candidate Trump's MAGA.

What is the difference between "Build Back Better" and "Make America Great Again"

Other than originality and alliteration.

John Henry

John henry said...

"Bosch's famous doctor is far more insane than the patient he is attempting to cure, and his false knowledge does nothing more than reveal the worst excesses of a madness immediately apparent to all but himself."

Gee, didn't one of our doctor commenters write a whole book about this? A very excellent history of medicine?

Available via the portal.

https://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Disease-Science-Medicine/dp/0974946656/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=history+of+disease+kennedy&qid=1601228222&sr=8-1

A bit pricey but well worth it.

John Henry

John henry said...

Please disregard the Amazon link in my previous note.

I posted a direct rather than a portal link. Here's one where Ann makes a couple bucks to compensate for the time she spends running this.

https://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Disease-Science-Medicine/dp/0974946656/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=history+of+disease+kennedy&qid=1601228350&sr=8-1

John Henry

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

"They don’t have to go through a state legislature, go through a governor. They can go straight to the federal government, straight to me...."

Waitaminute! I thought Trump=Autocrat=Bad. Autocrat is good now? Why do we even need Congress or the Supreme Court?

Drago said...

The Poor Man's LLR-lefty ***** gadfly: "Biden's "pouring flames on the fire" is certainly not as bad as Trump's desire to "get rid of ballots" in the coming election."

Biden, just this weekend, claimed to have "started out" at a historically black college, Delaware State.

Naturally, Delaware State has had to offer a public statement that Dementia Joe did not ever attend the college.

Dementia Joe cannot remember who his opponent is (short term memory loss) and his long term memory is also devolving quickly.

I really feel sorry for gadfly. Not just for all the obvious reasons, but also because He/she/xe is seriously deficient in the intellectual/reasoning realm and he/she/xe is taking it upon him/her/xer-self to convince everyone they are not really seeing what is happening right in front of them.

Not even Baghdad Bob ever had such a daunting task of make believe-narrative-pushing to tackle.

God speed little gadfly........

Drago said...

M Jordan: "For those who think Biden will fail in the upcoming one-on-one with Trump, never forget what a smirking, leering offense did for him against Paul Ryan"

The primary difference between Paul Ryan and Trump is that Trump is an actual competitor working to defeat Biden, whereas Paul Ryan was a stealthy ally of Biden and Obama and really had no intention of pushing back hard against Biden's lies.

The dems were so confident of Ryan playing the role of the Washington Generals they didn't even bother to tee up specific moments where the moderator had to defend Biden and stop Ryan. All because they knew Ryan would be happy to "lose with dignity and honor" all on his own.

Rabel said...

If you click on the time stamps in Althouse's transcript link it will take you to that point in Biden's dramatic reading.

Then you can judge his performance on your own.

His soft-spoken delivery and attempt to display empathy and concern while squinting to read the script is just a bit off-putting to me. But I'm not the target audience.

robother said...

Never underestimate Joe's ability to funnel this up.

Rabel said...

"I think Biden's team, if Biden does show up Tuesday, hopes that they can feed him enough talking points during the extemporaneous via an ear device"

Having someone speaking into his ear while he is listening to Trump and the moderator and trying to remember his prep is a good way to confuse the old guy beyond recovery.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

So Joe wants to increase the power of the Federal government by having the cities bypass the states, thereby undercutting them, and having the Feds creating the programs that the cities and states should be doing for themselves. Trump on the other hand, would tell the cities to talk to the states to get their issues solved, or to do it themselves.

The Federal government doesn't need to get involved in local politics.

CWJ said...

"...and I want to make sure that your (city mayors') ideas are the ones that are funneled up. They don’t have to go through a state legislature, go through a governor. They can go straight to the federal government, straight to me."

Federalism, what federalism?. That's not authoritarian at all. That's not scary at all.

BTW, perhaps the mayors ought to get their cities in order before sharing their ideas upward.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

"If I’m elected, you will have direct access to the White House."
"We got to stop the hate and the division now, we got to stop pouring flames on the fire"
"I want to make sure that your ideas are the ones that are funneled up. They don’t have to go through a state legislature, go through a governor. They can go straight to the federal government, straight to me."

What a moron
1: If every Mayor, or even just every Democrat Mayor had a hotline to the President, he'd never do anything other than talk with Mayors. He has a job, That isn't it

2: So, Joe, you're saying Democrat Mayors, like those of Portland and Seattle, shoudl stop allowing the rioters to keep on destroying things?

Are you going to go to the Soros DAs and tell them to start charging the rioters with crimes, instead of forcing their immediate release?

Jim at said...

I, for one, appreciate Biden's optimism. If he'd only been in a position to help this nation before now.

Gk1 said...

"does anyone STILL think that there will be a debate this tues?"

Yes there will be. I think Slow Joe will do poorly but barring him collapsing or shitting his pants on stage the dems & media will pretend he knocked it out of the park or is a credible alternative to Trump. They will quickly cancel all future debates as "Trump lies too much"

todd galle said...

I haven't waited for an TV event more than Tuesday's debate, well if you ignore the Eagles Super Bowl Game and the Love Boat reunion shows. Can Biden go 90 minutes is the question, on stage, without slipping out for an adrenalin shot? Will Hunter be in the wings with a mirror full of blow?
As for 'cutting of the stone', I know that to be an Early Modern medical procedure for gall bladder or kidney (?) stones. Samuel Pepys (that most excellent diarist) went through the surgery and survived (very delicate and dangerous), and so hosted his friends to a feast on the anniversary of his successful recovery from the operation for years after. I've seen some of the illustrations of how it was done, looks like what a bondage aficionado would suggest.

TJM said...

Is Inga dead?

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Drago said:

The dems were so confident of Ryan playing the role of the Washington Generals they didn't even bother to tee up specific moments where the moderator had to defend Biden and stop Ryan. All because they knew Ryan would be happy to "lose with dignity and honor" all on his own.

To paraphrase Abe Lincoln: "We can't spare this man, he fights." Trump has deep-sixed the "lose with dignity and honor" meme and replaced it with "No bastard ever won an election by losing with dignity and honor. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard lose with dignity and honor." Paraphrased from George Patton.

Ann Althouse said...

"Parts of that read like bad transcription; "You’re the ones leading away" should be "You’re the ones leading the way", and so on. But parts just make no sense at all. Is it possible he wrote it himself?"

The site I use for these long transcripts is some kind of automated transcript service. It does surprisingly well, but there are some things that could be corrected. Biden has a mush-mouthed way of speaking, so you can see how it would sound exactly like "a way" but deserve to be corrected to "the way."

Narayanan said...

Mike of Snoqualmie said...
Drago said:

The dems were so confident of Ryan playing the role of the Washington Generals they didn't even bother to tee up specific moments where the moderator had to defend Biden and stop Ryan. All because they knew Ryan would be happy to "lose with dignity and honor" all on his own.

To paraphrase Abe Lincoln: "We can't spare this man, he fights." Trump has deep-sixed the "lose with dignity and honor" meme and replaced it with "No bastard ever won an election by losing with dignity and honor. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard lose with dignity and honor." Paraphrased from George Patton.
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I prefer a Trump who says : He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard lose /HIS/HER/ dignity and honor."

Gospace said...

I can easily see where most people associate funnels with going from a wider entrance to a narrower exit since obvious funnels called funnels exist in every kitchen and garage. But I think there are far more examples of funnels used for expansion rather than contraction, though they’re not normally referred to as funnels.

The old RCA Victrola that the dog is listening to his master’s voice through is a funnel. Trumpets, trombones, bugles, all those brass instruments are funnels. Bullhorns, powered or not, funnels. Horns of all kind- funnels. Rocket exhaust expands through a funnel. Just a few examples off the top of my head.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Biden mocked John McCain as "an angry man" during the 2008 race. Now Biden gets to play the roll of the angry man.

walter said...

Keep a lid on this

GlennnRB said...

Inverted funnels work very well for heated air- think the hood over a range. Politicians generate lots of hot air, so inverted funnels may be of use...

SensibleCitizen said...

"Foundation stone" should have been either just foundation, or "corner" stone.