"... for having called her 'disgusting,' 'out of your freaking mind,' and a 'fucking bitch' on the steps of the Capitol in front of reporters on Tuesday, but also elucidating how that kind of language is normalized and deployed against all kinds of women, on all kinds of days. It was a remarkable piece of oratory, clear and thoughtful about some of the knottiest dynamics of gendered power imbalance in political, public, and personal life.... [Yoho] had offered up a floor speech purported to be apology, though it was actually far closer to pallid self-justification. 'Having been married for 45 years with two daughters, I’m very cognizant of my language,' Yoho had said, in a speech in which he did not mention Ocasio-Cortez’s name, and in which he nonsensically refused to 'apologize for my passion, or for loving my God, my family, and my country.' It was this non-apology and not his original outburst, Ocasio-Cortez said on Thursday, that led her to make her own speech, in which she eviscerated Yoho’s use of familial pablum and domestic association with women as evidence of his respect for them. Ocasio-Cortez pointed out that she, too, was someone’s daughter, and that that did not in any way insulate her or other women, also daughters and wives, from the impact of degrading and sexist diminution."
Writes Rebecca Traister in "The Poison of Male Incivility/When a woman dares respond to it, she’s seen as 'disruptive'" (The Cut).
Why did Yoho defend himself like that? He could have said he was just doing equality, and behind the scenes this is how the men talk to other men, using strong language. His apology was sexist, and it, ironically, cast the original remark as sexist. And now Traister can feed us civility bullshit.
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I love when strong women use the 'frail woman' card. It almost makes me think the entire Womyn Movement is not really a movement, but a club used to beat people who accept being beaten.
Of course he should have just said, "I meant what I said." He would have been much more popular today.
You’re absolutely right. His mealy-mouthed “apology” makes it impossible to feel anything but disgust for him. That is how people talk in politics. You can say it should stop, but you can’t say it’s sexist. This is an example of AOC being a self-pitying child, but through his own ineptness, Yoho has allowed her to successfully play the martyr again.
Oh, Yo... ho
Oh, Yo... ho
Your a-pol-ogies
Turn... me off
elucidating how that kind of language is normalized and deployed against all kinds of women
It's a good thing that that kind of language is never normalized and deployed against all kinds of men.
"When a woman dares respond to it, she’s seen as 'disruptive'"
Oh, those poor daring little dears! What shall become of them?
Fuck her. She calls Trump supporters Racists and Homophobes, and she is pissed that she got called out for the bitch that she is??? Wahhhhhh!!! Little girl needs to grow up.
On the bright side “That guy is a real Yoho” now has some real meaning.
Here in Nebraska a male GOP Senator was talking on the floor on some topic (I think global warming) and he was getting noise from a female Dem. He told her to "shut up" and flipped her off.
Dems up in arms!
But a few days before this incident, 83 years old Ernie Chambers spoke on the floor. He's a Black Dem. He inferred that 24 year old Senator Julia Slama (Yale grad and UNL Law student) had sex with the GOP Governor Pete Ricketts. He also spoke of his rape and abduction fantasy involving Senator Slama.
The Dems have been silent about the slander of Slama. It's okay because she's a Republican.
"behind the scenes this is how the men talk to other men"
No sexism there.
Apparently he's retiring so it doesn't really matter. But yes, he should have had the courage of his convictions. He was absolutely correct in his descriptions. And if a woman can't handle being told that why is she running the country? (If a woman is that, why is she running the country?)
I guess it demonstrates that Rep. Go to didn't think his way into it and he didn't think his way out of it. What he should have done was a Cyrano de Bergerac. Take it back then insult her fifty better ways.
you know after events 12 years and then 10 years ago with niki haley, which michael woolf reprised in a fashion, the outrage card is spent,
"When a woman dares respond to it, she’s seen as 'disruptive'"
Define 'woman'.
Go to = Yoho stupid autocorrect.
And he should slyly allude to her sex tapes.
just because slama pointed out her opponent janet palmtag (shirley) is lockstep with ernie chambers, one of lenora felanis associates if memory serves,
Time for Yolo turn in his man card and cut off his balls if he refuses to stand behind his words and instead try to hide behind his wife and daughters.
Does he let his wife peg him too?
Remember!
Womyn (ALL Womyn!) are SO FRAGILE, SO EMOTIONAL, and SO PETTY AND VINDICTIVE
that we ALWAYS, are REQUIRED to treat them like the little girls they are
Right? i mean, Right?
And then these low-down people that I've named, Senator Slama, Governor Ricketts, and all the Republicans have decided to try to destroy that woman's reputation, destroy her by using my name.
"I feel an obligation, how they will take to show how she and I are in league with each other, to lift her up in the minds of the people who live down there with her, who have known her, who have never, to my way of thinking and understanding, since we're playing dirty, said that she was given favors because favors of a fleshy nature were expected in return.
Senator Ernie Chambers on the floor of the Nebraska Unicameral.
"Now I don't know if Senator Slama has heard what they are saying about her and why the governor picked a very young person with no life experiences. I didn't know they had traveled together. How would I know that if white people didn't tell me? They want to play dirty; well, let's get dirt out here on everybody.
" where certain salacious things were suggested about her because of some older white man who was supposed to symbolize power and why he's putting her in that position when she has no credentials to justify it. Only one thing. And that's what's being said about Senator Slama. She knows it. You all know it around here because some of you have told me, but I'm not going to out you."
....
"You all see him as a hero [Andrew Jackson]. I don't. Suppose I had raped white women. Suppose I enslaved Senator Slama and used her the way that I wanted to? You think Thomas Jefferson was a great man? Do you realize he had a room in Monticello for Sally Hemings? And he had six children by that woman, in the house where his wife lived?
Ace of Spades calls her Toothy McBigTits. Works for me.
Interesting conversation last night with family. All the kids and grandkids are overnighting at our house. After all the grandkids went out to the tent in backyard for the night, adult conversation ensued. Very enjoyable. Wide ranging topics, intelligent opinions across the political spectrum. Hard to describe how much fun it was.
At one point AOC came up. The DIL said she had heard snark about how stupid she was. So she watched several of her verbal performances. Her take away is, stupid is too kind. She tried to go to her official website and get curated video favorable to AOC, but the DIL said even that could not hide the stupid.
He should have said "tough shit, the truth hurts" and walked away. Politics ain't beanbag and she needs to grow a thicker skin to be in that ring.
In the battle of the sexes, men's go-to is saying what they think; women's go-to is nagging.
Equality doesn't enter the picture except as make-believe material for nagging.
AOC is a Marxist whore and a hypocrite.
Same old Leftist/liberal whining. She's a fucking Congressman. If she can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
I want my Senator/Congressman/President to LEAD and look after my interests. I"m not interested in having a VICTIM for a leader.
I guess that phrase used a lot by AA commenters.
Poor little me, I'm just a congresswoman. Can anyone help protect me from the big, bad man?
Nichevo,
Thanks for the Cyranon reference. It made me go watch the nose speech and put a smile on my face for the day. I think the part you mean begins here https://youtu.be/nFiLIsMieiQ?t=77
The great Puerto Rican actor Jose Ferrer will never be topped.
Full movie is here https://youtu.be/d60EyFh0nmI
Been a while since I've seen it. Perhaps it is about time.
John Henry
they are colloidial slime, dave begley, btw I'm almost up to 200 pages on my novella, theres too much backstory to make it into a screenplay,
Nebraska got term limits on state legislators due to Ernie Chambers. He ran the whole Senate and the other Senators got sick of him. So they passed a term limits law. After he left office he sat out one term and came back for two more terms. He serves for another ten days or so and then he's done at the age of 83.
He hates white people and is damn proud of it.
See what happens when women get the right to vote?
Don't ever apologize to the Teenager-in-chief.
He could have just called AOC a stupid socialist. That covers it, and is competely accurate. Although "crazy-eyed loon" would also be accurate.
You NEVER apologize to Democrats. They take it as a sign of weakness. Yoho should have doubled down instead. Or not said it in the first place.
Yoho should not have apologized.
AOC is a whackadoodle.
She is an economic illiterate.
And she would crush the livelihoods of every American if she got her way.
She has no compassion.
She is an awful human.
Diversity has been normalized in so many institutions and under so many labels. Masculinists had a hand, sure. Also, feminists, racists and other classes of diversitists. Obama's establishment of political congruence as a viable sociopolitical construct only exacerbated its progress.
the entire Womyn Movement is not really a movement, but a club used to beat people who accept being beaten
Yes, men, women, and children, too. Feminism is a chauvinistic ideology, a subset of diversity dogma, under the Progressives' Pro-Choice religion.
Being Democrat means never having to say you are sorry.
The string of hateful sexist bile spewed against conservative women over the last two decades makes the comments about AOC pretty tame.
The bar was lowered by the left. Want civility now? You first. Otherwise....
Tough shit.
"behind the scenes this is how the men talk to other men"
Diversity, division, and exclusion. Inference is a tell-tale sign of modern philosophies.
AOC is a joke. So is Yolo.
So is Pelosi.
And so is The Cut.
I don't care. Both of these people have more power than I do, and they are fighting in public and whining about it.
How much do either of them care as I watch businesses I cared about being closed, one after the other, because of COVID.
He should have told her to fuck off and put it on the record.
Truth is a perfectly valid defense.
I want to know who these people know who think of women as "disruptive"?
Maybe AOC forgets what Talib said about our newly elected president back in 2016. "Impeach the MF'er" or similar. These people are beyond hypocrites......
What is amazing is that AOC said that the slur was hurled against her in front of reporters. Apparently, there wasn't enough "there, there" for it to make the news. I call it fake.
Ocasio-Cortez's arguments are all too one-sided: she speaks to women and to only certain women in this country. To be more specific, she speaks to privileged women obsessed with undoing what they call the "patriarchy" and in particular she and liked-minded women are obsessed with undoing Donald Trump's power. I truly wonder whether O-C - like Hillary - loathes men in general.
I'm sure Sarah Palin and Sarah Sanders have thoughts on this.....
>>Ace of Spades calls her Toothy McBigTits.<<
So Ace wears magnifier glasses, then?
I overheard someone in the office refer to me as a "dickhead." I spent the next four days crafting a speech to be delivered in the company conference room. I made myself both the victim and the strongman. I was filled with civility while eviscerating my opponent and his entire race, culture, and family. Damn, it was my finest hour and a half. I'm pretty sure everyone in the company admires that I took a stand for all dickheads.
Or maybe I just laughed it off. I can't remember which.
What a bonfire of double standards: A man uses crude language about a woman. What is the lesson drawn by Rebecca Traister?
Ted Yoho's insults toward Representative Ocasio-Cortez mean that he doesn't respect any woman. Naturally, using the same "logic" it means that it is a "men" problem, since all men are responsible for the actions of any one man.
" 'disgusting,' 'out of your freaking mind,' and a 'fucking bitch.' What's the issue here? Too close to home?
Blogger Big Mike said...
You NEVER apologize to Democrats. They take it as a sign of weakness. Yoho should have doubled down instead. Or not said it in the first place.
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Of course, Congressman Yoho misspoke. She's a fucking stupid bitch.
Fox News and GOPers like Ted Yahoo have made a 30-year old freshman Democratic congresswoman into a well-known national celebrity.
I don't understand it, but I like it.
AOC is an actress who was recruited by the "Democratic Socialists" in a casting call. Unlike most of their other recruits, she won her election with about a 20% voter turnout. Her speeches are written for her and she represents a small radical element in the national Democrats. I assume she would be a laughing stock but for the insane Trump hate we see here in the comments.
Jupiter said...
Ace of Spades calls her Toothy McBigTits. Works for me.
She's the type you would have a romp with after a house party and then would text you 20 times a day for a week and then post crap about you on Facebook when you didn't respond.
Yoho is disputing her account of what happened. Is there a recording of what actually happened? Or are supposed to just take AOC's word for it?
AOC wiping the floor with you Trump Cucks is the cake. You're whining about it is the icing.
AOC is pretty hot. I can understand why men on the left support her as the fantasy girl they will never have a chance with. I married a blonde 32 years ago, but those liberal Hispanic girls I dated, you can't ever get them out of your head. I understand their defense of her.
Whether he is reelected or not, I think Trump's greatest accomplishment has been to strip away this silly veneer of civility in politics. I don't know if I'll vote for him or not, but I do find his wholly uncivil approach to be hilarious and refreshing. Politics thrives on hatreds, always has.
bbkingfish and I agree.
I want AOC to be the face of the Democratics for the next 50 years.
Howard said...
AOC wiping the floor with you Trump Cucks is the cake. You're whining about it is the icing.
Howie is just mailing it in. I am becoming convinced that he gets paid by the comment.
Yawn.
Fuck her. She calls Trump supporters Racists and Homophobes, and she is pissed that she got called out for the bitch that she is??? Wahhhhhh!!! Little girl needs to grow up.
Second. The shit she's peddling will kill us all. She got off easy...
Howard, instead of taking his meds, wrote the following: "AOC wiping the floor with you Trump Cucks is the cake."
Not a Trump Cuck, just a guy who likes liberty and despises State Cucks like yourself. I am, however, curious: how did AOC "wipe the floor" with Trump-supporters? With her usual Aristotelian logic coupled with her encyclopedic knowledge of economics and history?
AOC spoke powerfully because it is the one subject on which she has spoken that she actually knows something about - being called a fucking bitch.
Tough shit AOC.
I did not know Ocasio-Cortez was such a fragile little snowflake.
Oh, wait, she isn't. But she gave an excellent performance.
liberal Hispanic girls I dated, you can't ever get them out of your head
Liberal, weird. Caliente, perhaps a stereotype, but often true.
When AOC was at BU you could graduate with a minor in economics by taking only the woke elective shit- no micro or macro, just The Economics of Racism, Wealth Redistribution After the Climate Apocalypse, How Much Do Men Owe Us?...and a couple woke others...
Francisco D said...
Howard said...
AOC wiping the floor with you Trump Cucks is the cake. You're whining about it is the icing.
Howie is just mailing it in. I am becoming convinced that he gets paid by the comment.
Yawn.
Howard's paymasters in Beijing pay for quantity, not quality.
Re: Cyrano, got it in one JH. Steve Martin also did a nice job with it.
CR said...
Whether he is reelected or not, I think Trump's greatest accomplishment has been to strip away this silly veneer of civility in politics. I don't know if I'll vote for him or not
CR, every vote counts, even if in a putatively safe state, the popular vote has become a talking point, so do your part and strike a blow for freedom.
Vote Trump and save the Republic!
It's just that stark. If ever one wanted "a choice, not an echo," here it is!
And AOC pulled a well-I-never. I said it before:
A pretty,
Mean and ignorant,
Hispanic,
(who at one time wanted to "pass"i.e. as "Sandy"),
Woman,
Bartender,
(Who stole her colleagues' tips from the tip jar),
From the Bronx,
Never had said to or about her, such words?
Negro please, she heard worse growing up from her own family in her own house. <--fact, no evidence required
Becky Traister has heard or read a limited number of speeches in her day. Sad. Chuck thought it the greatest as well.
n.n.
Caliente, for sure.
No, not weird. Awesome yes. Just not for me. But a guy my age just wonders about the choices of my youth. I am sure these ladies are doing well in the heart of California.
She was too sanctimonious. She doesn't do sanctimony well. I think that at sometime in her past life someone gave her a much harder time than Yoho and that she responded in kind rather than in sanctimony. She would have scored points with a wittier or even a ruder comeback. Dorothy Parker and Bette Davis are legendary, but nobody likes a sanctimonious bitch.
I've toured the Mediterranean and the Caribbean to stay away from white american women.
1) Puerto Rico. Sadly yes, AOC has that. If only she could keep her mouth shut, but well, Puerto Rico. Never on time and never shut up, but oh so fine.
2) Southern France
3) Barbados
4) Albania (but they'll slit your throat in your sleep, but that's kind of hot)
5) Israel (easier than anything, but have to wait for quality)
6) Morocco (northern. Hard to get but the more frenchified they are the better)
7) Spain (ok)
8) Italy (just never hit it off)
9) Greece (bleh)
You're welcome
Let's back up here. Yoho is saying he did not say any of those things about her. He used some of the terms but it was about her policies, not her personally. The article said he said these things in front of a reporter. Where's the reporter's story.
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