"Most were young women looking vaguely guilt-ridden. They were well-dressed, well-groomed and well-fed.... But one sign troubled me. It appeared in various incantations, but the gist was 'Justice NOW for George.'... I’ve watched the video of George dying, and it was horrifying. If no exculpatory evidence turns up, then I hope those cops rot in jail. I’m guessing nearly all people – including other cops – hope for the same. But notice the 'if' in the preceding paragraph.... Here, the cop has been arrested and is in jail on a million-dollar bond awaiting... trial. Given that, what exactly does the shouted word 'NOW' mean in 'Justice NOW for George'? Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?"
From "A report from the big white suburban guilty girls picnic march" by Glenn K. Beaton (The Aspen Beat).
June 10, 2020
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Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?
They need the cops to be acquitted before the election...
Somebody gonna get cancelled.
We are seeing what was predicted by many, once parents allowed schools to create a Participation Trophy Generation.
NPR has been making women stupid for fifty years.
Quick! Somebody severely punish the big bad police officers before any evidence can be presented. There's got to be a rope around here somewhere!
If the cops involved are quickly scapegoated, it's less likely the public will have an opportunity to thoughtfully consider the horrible policies enacted by long-time Democratic officials in these cities and the corrupt gravy train can get back to SOP.
I bet it's a great time to be a black guy looking for white pussy.
These women need kids to take care of.
Where would the progressive agenda be without pampered white women?
The author will soon be required to apologize or be fired.
What if the evidence shows that the cop was a Democrat who mourns global warming and drives to yoga class in a Prius with a COEXIST bumper sticker, and that George admired Justice Clarence Thomas?
Such hypotheticals are wrong thinking and not allowed.
As for the original question about the meaning of "justice NOW", I think of it as a boiler plate demonstration sign. The writer should have seen the nuance of the NOW as meaning this time and soon, not really NOW-NOW.
"Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?"
Just wait until the trial when the police officers are found not guilty. There is a lot of information not yet in evidence.
"justice NOW for George"
Wasn't/isn't NOW (National Organization for Women) the defunct/semi-defunct whatever-wave feminist organization that few, if any young women under 30 have heard of? And even fewer care about?
I saw the same when they bussed up protesters into Grafton last week. Was one of the whitest protests I've ever seen. There was probably somewhere around 500 people, almost all women, and about a dozen POC.
Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?
Uh, yeah.
More virtue signalling.
And an illustration of the utter failure of modern "education" (aka indoctrination). Justice, by necessity, moves slowly. "Justice NOW" is self-contradictory.
Scott Adams just got censored on Twitter. He asked for examples of systemic racism and suddenly the tweet and replies were gone...he's pissed. LOL
If there's one thing I hate more than feral black criminals 'urban trekking' through America's cities the last 40 years, it is their white enablers seeking to keep them on the plantation harvesting their votes in exchange for either feigned solidarity or - in an increasing trend - actually buying into their self-guilt over institutions that haven't existed for 160 years in this country, much later in the history of other countries (like the Middle East), and for which the minorities in question were in many cases participants in their own subjugation.
Run on sentence I know, but there's a lot to fit in. Apologist-whites are first on my 'boogaloo' hit-list.
Evidence is that the cops did nothing wrong. You'd think that story would have legs but it doesn't. The evil cops narrative gets more clicks in the imagination of the mentally feckless, and they pay the bills.
They were well-dressed, well-groomed and well-fed
Based on what I've seen of these protesters, only one of those is true.
Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?
Nah. Every “protest” march includes a demand for NOW! It’s just empty noise. Like their empty heads.
Why do non-racist white people insist on calling each other racists???
I would love to see a study where white people are asked to name eacist whites whom they personally know, with attribution. Let's shed some light on this matter because democracy dies in darkness, don't cha know??
"Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?"
Yes.
This movement sounds so much like the phoney 2009 Occupy "protests" with chubby, white protestors mixed in with Antifa creeps. It will wilt and disappear soon when they get bored.
That’s exactly what I have been wondering.
Justice? I think they mean something different. What the crowds clamor for is Power.
Three years ago it took the Minneapolis PD over six months to fire and arrest a Black cop who killed an innocent White woman. (She was the one who called the cops) It took them less than a week to fire and arrest the White cop who killed Floyd after he committed a crime and resisted arrest. What is the outrage? What more was supposed to happen?
Violent mobs are all the rage this week!
Yes, this love for George Floyd is the new political cant indulged in by the liberal bourgeois use. And the hatred of the police. Even the writer engages in it, he hopes the Policemen (plural) "rot in jail". Well, I don't. I hope the policemen (plural) especially the two rookie cops (one white, one black) get JUSTICE.
BTW, one can just imagine Mitt Romney in Aspen with the marchers, drinking a caffine free latte. He already supports Antifa and Black lives matter.
Yes that is the demand. But perhaps it’s an allusion to the National organization of Women, and how she imagines women would benefit from defunding the police.
I don’t btw think it’s that Floyd died that made this erupt. It’s the symbolism of the cop kneeling on the neck of a strong, fit black man. You really couldn’t conjure a more potent and evocative image.
Infants banging their spoons on the high chair tray.
Given that, what exactly does the shouted word 'NOW' mean in 'Justice NOW for George'? Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?"
I'd say most of those people are just virtue signaling, and simply used to immediate gratification.
Protesters on message would say that if they don't cement the demand for "Justice NOW" while the nation's attention is focused, then the demand for justice later will have a way of dissipating given notoriously short attention and outrage spans.
Many on the right fear this already happening with Obama-gate scandals. The profound difference, of course, is the media averting its eyes from a political scandal of unprecedented scope and doing everything in its power to kill the story in its crib.
Those stupid little girls will get justice all right.
The fall of civilization is particularly steep for young women.
And there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. What's astounding about this whole week of rioting and bitter tears is how EMOTIONAL and UNHINGED our leaders are. Except for Trump. No expression of contempt and hatred for the police is too extreme, no praise for St. Floyd George is too high, no wish-washing and excusing of the riots and Antifa is too much.
We have Mittens marching against "Racism". We have Pelosi and Schumer dressing up in African garb and kneeling for 8.5 minutes, we have the MSM giving us one propaganda story after another. We have the Left-wing Social media Gestapo firing, deplatforming, and censoring anyone who strays from the Party Line. "Don't respect the "protesters"? Well, nice job you got there, it'd be a shame if you lose it. Not that you're being threatened or nothin'"
And all over ten unarmed blacks getting killed every year by the Police in a country with millions of arrest and ONE million policemen! And that includes Black police and "Unarmed" crooks who attacked the police and tried to take their guns away!
"Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?"
Of course they are.
The accepted narrative is that GF is a martyred saint, albeit with a record of multiple felonies, amphetamine use, and alleged grand and petit other crimes. Think about it- he's a saint with all that. I saw pictures of his martyred visage on Madison plywood- you can't get any more holy than that!
If the police officer has any exculpatory testimony, it will interfere with the martyrology.
Best to hang the cop now, before anything leaks out.
Murder! Warlock judgment.
This goes back to the cult discussion, posted in your comments yesterday.
White Suburban Girls Picnic March -- wasn't that one of Tom Wolfe's early works?
Is he fat-shaming white suburban guilty girls?
Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?
Not exactly. They want racial tribunals where white people will be shackled hand and foot before panels of BLM activists, and a "national razor" will be built in George Floyd Square or Black Lives Matter Plaza in every city.
After the cops, they'll come for registered Republicans. and after them, they'll come for Democrats, as well. No one is pure enough for the likes of BLM.
The portion you quoted about a rush to judgment is valid. And I agree with the additional point (in the article, not included in your excerpt) that most of these protests are cheap examples of self congratulation about how woke the participants all are -- but the author peppers his beat with unnecessary provocation that detracts from his credibility. The women are "well-fed." Their boyfriends are "neither well-groomed nor well-fed. They were scrawny and scruffy, if you ask me, with thin beards." "Not that there’s anything wrong with a guy with a body and beard that are thin and a girlfriend who’s not." "[T]hese suburban girls and their girly men aren’t looters." Reference to "pull[ing] our 9mm" even if the point is there is no worry about it.
View points that challenge the leftist narrative need to be more careful. They're already going to twist and mischaracterize. Authors shouldn't make it easier for them.
Also, I saw White Suburban Guilty Girls open for the Ramones in '79.
Disco still sucks.
I live near a popular tourist sight in Los Angeles that was also a popular riot/protest spot. I also noticed that it had a similar demographic and a look of a local block party. People were out and about and having fun.
Given the medical autopsy report, there is already exculpatory evidence that should lead to an acquittal of Chauvin on the murder charges, if the judge and jury do their actual jobs right.
You actually have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was the knee in the neck that killed Floyd. The autopsy failed to do that, and I don't see a way around this fact.
“No, no!” said the [Red] Queen. “Sentence first -- verdict afterwards.”
I've been posting all along that these cops did not "murder" Floyd and will likely be acquitted if given a fair trial, which means out of the hands of Ellison. The Clinton DOJ did a double jeopardy number on the Rodney King cops but this is Barr who will not take bullshit.
Now, Ellison and his Farrakhan allies will do what they can to hang these cops. We'll see if there is justice in Minnesota.
I'm not talking about the kind of clothes she wears
Look at that stupid girl
I'm not talking about the way she combs her hair
Look at that stupid girl
The way she powders her nose
Her vanity shows and it shows
She's the worst thing in this world
Well, look at that stupid girl
...
She bitches 'bout things that she's never seen
Look at that stupid girl
Disco rules!!! I am listening to the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack right now!
Blogger Gunner said..."These women need kids to take care of."
I think there's something to that.
We'll see if there is justice in Minnesota.
There is Justice in Heaven. Elsewhere, not so much.
They mean they want their tribe to have more power, starting now. George Floyd is irrelevant.
@Michael The Magnificent said...
I saw the same when they bussed up protesters into Grafton last week. Was one of the whitest protests I've ever seen. There was probably somewhere around 500 people, almost all women, and about a dozen POC.
I assume you mean Grafton WI? Quite a few young teenage white girls in crop tops.
Grafton Protest 1
Grafton Protest 2
Grafton Protest 3
Grafton Protest 4
The whole country has jumped the gun on this, and when it comes trial time there is going to be an explosion that will make the Rodney King fiasco seem like a walk in the park if the cop is not convicted. While this may be heresy in the current environment, I think there is a distinct possibility he will not be. Specifically,
- I could be wrong in my understanding of the autopsy report, but did it not say that he had significant if not potentially deadly levels of meth and/or Fentanyl in his blood at the time he died?
- Did he not have existing heart disease and pulmonary disease which was certainly not helped by the drugs in his system? Could his repeated "I can't breathe" pleas be a result of the existing heart and blood oxygen issues caused by the underlying diseases and exacerbated by the drugs, rather than a result of the knee on his neck?
- Did not the autopsy report describe the dissection of his neck tissue and the finding that there was no indication of bruising or trauma to the neck or windpipe or of suffocation?
- Was this knee on the neck not an approved method to hold someone down and hadn't it been employed perhaps thousands of times in multiple police departments across the country without significant injury to the person being restrained? If not using this particular immobilization technique, what better options were available to control a six foot six, two hundred plus pound suspect who was extremely violent until he was pulled from the police car's back seat and pinned? Did not the police call an ambulance after pinning Floyd down because they suspected he was under the influence of drugs?
I'm not a lawyer (thank you, Jesus!) but for a juror couldn't there be enough there to make a second degree murder charge at least somewhat questionable?
When AG Ellison loses the cases against the cops or only gets lesser includeds - as planned - the demonstrations, riots, looting and suburban guilty girls’ picnics can begin again. Let the destabilization of America at the hands of Democrats and other loons continue! Yeah!
Bonus justification: If the trial takes long enough, the looters may even need to replace their worn Nike’s.
It’s OK to lynch whites.
There is Justice in Heaven. Elsewhere, not so much.
There is mercy in heaven, justice in hell.
@jaydub, I am in full agreement, and have been saying something similar since immediately after the event.
jaydub, the duration of the kneeling was excessive, and absolutely unnecessary once the suspect was handcuffed. He should have been rolled onto his side, or placed in a sitting position, or even laid on his back once cuffed. Continuing to kneel on him was indeed against training and police policy, specifically because doing so for long periods is proven to be dangerous to the one kneeled upon.
I weigh over 300 pounds, and would be happy to demonstrate this by kneeling on your neck for 9 minutes if you so desire to test your hypothesis yourself. If not, stop your BS.
"A report from the big white suburban guilty girls picnic march"
LOL!
From the very first we heard cries of, "We demand justice, find the cops guilty".
Disgusting. Un-American. Right back to the old we need a fair trial before we hang him. And not for the first time.
Are some of you just now hearing some of the crazy seeping over the wall of silence by the media?
I weigh over 300 pounds, and would be happy to demonstrate this by kneeling on your neck for 9 minutes if you so desire to test your hypothesis yourself. If not, stop your BS.
Have you read the autopsy report? I have. Stop your own BS.
And, yes, when he lapsed into unconsciouness the cops erred from that point forward.
Mikee, you need to lose some weight!
I don't want to repeal the 19th, but is it too much to make each ballot count 50%?
If not that, could we make every ballot cast by a welfare taker count 50%?
Either one might actually help fix this country.
Hey, where the white women at?
https://youtu.be/zkVl1zfM_G4
"I weigh over 300 pounds, and would be happy to demonstrate this by kneeling on your neck for 9 minutes if you so desire to test your hypothesis yourself. If not, stop your BS."
Then my advice to you is don't ever resist arrest. Floyd was over 300 too, as was Eric Garner. Turns out, resisting arrest when you're in very poor physical shape is a bad idea. Garner didn't even have drugs in his system as far as I recall (well, maybe some marijuana).
"Continuing to kneel on him was indeed against training and police policy"
Please cite the police manual you are referring to. Because I see lots of cops, around the world, treat suspects this way, even after they have stopped resisting. There was one case in Texas I believe where cops straight-up sat on a dude, who later died. That guy was white though, so we never hear about him. He must've deserved it cuz privilege.
"When AG Ellison loses the cases against the cops or only gets lesser includeds - as planned - the demonstrations, riots, looting and suburban guilty girls’ picnics can begin again."
This is what worries me. I despise Ellison but this was a tough cookie no matter how you cut it, however I think he chose poorly - possibly deliberately. Overcharge and appease the mob, or charge with a more likely "convictable" offense, but possibly fail to quell the immediate furor?
mikee
He had been handcuffed for quite a while even as he blew out of the driver side of the police car after having.been put in the passenger side. He continued to struggle after he was brought to ground. He had been passive until he wasn't The cops were not taking that chance again.
Justice "NOW" and end racism "NOW" are not demands that can be met. What would justice now look like, besides a lynching of the cop(s) involved? How do we prove we have ended racism? The Left claims that the whole society is structurally racist and whites have original racism sin. There is no absolution available for these sins.
jaydub, police forces had long ago been informed by the DOJ that placing pressure on a prone person's neck was a dangerous technique:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/posasph.pdf
That document offers a number of reasons why such a restraint method was dangerous.
They chose to adopt it anyway, their local regs offering with advice as to do it only if necessary and only for so long as needed to subdue the suspect.
MPLS police was needed to subdue Floyd, but once they had him pinned (three officers on his neck, back and legs) they could have rolled him over on his back and pinned him from that side.
Yet even after the guy passed out, they kept him pinned on his stomach.
Piss-poor judgment on their part, at the very least. And if it turns out there was any animus between Floyd and Chauvin, that will seal the latter's fate.
When you've lost the guy who describes taking a walk as "urban trekking..."
Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?"
yes, yes they are. This lynching (like Most/ALL) lynching is spurred on* by women.
spurred on* Ever been around a place/time when a several guys beat the crap out of a guy?
I have, and Each time, there was (at least) one girl screaming "Beat the crap out of him!"
Quaestor said...
Are the protesters demanding that we bypass the trial and just lynch the cops right now?
Not exactly. They want racial tribunals where white people will be shackled hand and foot before panels of BLM activists, and a "national razor" will be built in George Floyd Square or Black Lives Matter Plaza in every city.
After the cops, they'll come for registered Republicans. and after them, they'll come for Democrats, as well. No one is pure enough for the likes of BLM.
6/10/20, 9:07 AM
An adequate rendition of the proposed neo-justice system is offered in The Dark Knight Rises, after Bane has taken control of Gotham and the Scarecrow is running the tribunals. Happily, there is no ice on the Gotham River at present...but, winter is coming.
I don’t btw think it’s that Floyd died that made this erupt. It’s the symbolism of the cop kneeling on the neck of a strong, fit black man. You really couldn’t conjure a more potent and evocative image.
Yeah, that's right. Some more contributing factors are 1) the white cop really looked like a "bad cop" right out of Hollywood central casting 2) People weren't aware the knee-kneck restraint was an authorized and widely used police technique 3) People were stir crazy because of the lockdowns.
If not using this particular immobilization technique, what better options were available to control a six foot six, two hundred plus pound suspect who was extremely violent until he was pulled from the police car's back seat and pinned?
Why was he pulled from the police car? Once you have the suspect in the backseat, game over. Isn't it? The suspect may wriggle or kick or flop up and down, but don't they do that all the time? Isn't the backseat of a cruiser armored against this happening? If not, why not? Let him writhe in his cuffs.
Blogger Michael said...
mikee
He had been handcuffed for quite a while even as he blew out of the driver side of the police car after having.been put in the passenger side. He continued to struggle after he was brought to ground. He had been passive until he wasn't The cops were not taking that chance again.
How were they going to stop him from struggling? Kill him? Render him unconscious? Extort him with a picture of relatives that would suffer if he continued? Bribe him? Shoot him up with tranquilizers?
You got a guy struggling, he's not going to stop struggling until he wants to stop struggling. How are you going to accomplish that, make him want to stop? As you say, he could submit and resume struggling as long as he liked. Police procedure should encompass this.
"Ever been around a place/time when a several guys beat the crap out of a guy?
I have, and Each time, there was (at least) one girl screaming "Beat the crap out of him!""
It's the 'let's you and him fight" method of figuring out who gets the goods. The smart move is to walk away. Better than even odds she'll be back, and even if not, you just avoided a possible stint in jail (or the hospital, if you're a soyboy lib) over a girl who - in the end - is absolutely not worth the hassle.
Leaving the scene signals that you KNOW she's not worth the hassle. Depending on her level of sluttiness, she'll be back to try and prove to you that she is worth it.
In the meantime, go find a different girl who doesn't have that particular tic. You'll be glad you did.
Blogger rcocean said...
"BTW, one can just imagine Mitt Romney in Aspen with the marchers, drinking a caffine free latte. He already supports Antifa and Black lives matter."
I wish someone in the media would ask Romney what his support for BLM and Antifa entails. What principles of Antifi and BLM do you support, Mitt? How do those principles mesh with your Mormon beliefs?
The far greater question is whether the main defendant or the co-defendants can get a fair trial.
And the clear answer is a clear NO.
There is not a single juror in this country that would not feel the infinite pressure on him or her to vote guilty regardless of the evidence presented at trial. Why? Because they know that a "not guilty" vote, or a hung jury, means riots and destruction and death.
To have a fair trial, you need jurors that are at least willing to consider the possibility of voting not guilty regardless of the consequences.
RK said
“ I bet it's a great time to be a black guy looking for white pussy.”
Kinda like the 60’s.
Wait until no decent person wants to be a cop.
Before anyone else writes that there is universal condemnation of Chauvin, they should come here and read the comments.
Myself, I saw one man kill another needlessly and recklessly and possibly intentionally.
You got a guy struggling, he's not going to stop struggling until he wants to stop struggling. How are you going to accomplish that, make him want to stop? As you say, he could submit and resume struggling as long as he liked. Police procedure should encompass this.
This is probably why the body cam videos have not been released. Doesn't fit the narrative. I wonder if they will be "lost" before the trial like the Epstein cell video?
One thing I've noticed about these guilty girls marches is that the white protestors are mostly wearing masks though not maintaining social distancing. I've heard that hospitals are expecting an uptick in serious Covid cases and will not be handle them under present policies. You see a serious Covid case takes a lot of nursing and lasts a long time so that hospital ICUs are still almost filled with serious covid cases although covid new infection rates have fallen like a stone throughout the country. Now we have had days of protests and, more seriously, nights of rioting in which police without helmet masks were spit upon and rioters were jammed together looting, running and, in general, breathing heavily upon each other. Almost as bad as being in church. An uptick in cases and hence a few days later an uptick in serious cases is expected by all hospitals. But the ICU rooms are now almost full. So unless preparations are made to distribute cases among ICU rooms, hospitals in areas close to riots will be overwhelmed and there will be triaging. But our glorious public health professionals are too busy rounding up mothers who have allowed play dates to work out a plan for a spike in cases followed by an ICU shortage in hospitals serving the black communities. There isn't planning and there won't be nurses and there won't be ventilators and there won't be oxygen for all those needed those treatments. I can't breathe - Part II - coming soon to a hospital not near where guilty girls live.
Sorry, Althouse, I posted the same comment twice (here and at "Day 10 of Protests") because I lost where I put it.
In post-social separation Progressive South Africa, the Whites were tasked with suppressing the Whites, and the Blacks were tasked with lynching the Blacks.
ask Romney what his support for BLM
Baby Lives Matter? I think that he's Pro-Life. As are all Mormons on principle.
Nearly every FB friend I have who cheered on the riots was a white, middle or upper-middle class woman many miles from any danger. My black FB friends didn't make posts like that. Perhaps some of our white warriors of social justice should stop and reflect on whether or not cheering the destruction of black neighborhoods is really anti-racist.
(Since they thought it was such a great idea, why didn't these white oppressors go outside to torch their own homes? Oh, right, too busy fighting racism by making posts, reading books, and watching movies. Who has the time for arson?)
RK said
“ I bet it's a great time to be a black guy looking for white pussy.”
Except watch out for the next morning. 50% of sexual assault accusations in college are against black males. And they are about 3% of the student population.
Of course they want the cops to be lynched immediately. It's the only rational explanation for their demands.
I think it's a sexual thing with these white upper middle class lib girls.
Because have you seen white upper middle class lib men? Especially the young ones in their skinny jeans? Althouse has written about young women upspeaking, but it's a thing with young men too. I overheard it many times in coffee shops in Shorewood and in Whole Foods. Some hipster dude with a whiny querulous voice asking about fair trade coffee or something.
The sound of the entitled, testosterone-free white liberal eunuch.
The womym will never put it in such terms but they want something more masculine than Mr. Avocado Toast. They notice that the black dudes and the Muslim dudes and the Hispanic dudes are not ashamed of their own dicks. The black street culture, the exoticism of Islam and the Hispanic celebration of macho men are far more attractive than the emo cucks they grew up with. The violent element in those cultures doesn't turn them off, since they confuse manliness with brutality. The most extreme example is young white girls running off to join ISIS. These idiot girls are looking for the toxic masculinity they deny to their own males.
Why was he pulled from the police car?
He was claiming he was claustrophobic as they were pushing him into the squad, so I'm guessing he continued to fuss and refused to sit up so his seat belt could be fastened and that's why they pulled him out. They'd just pulled him out of the front seat of a car not that much earlier, so I'm assuming his claustrophobia claim is BS. My buddy the cop calls this condition jail-itis.
George made a whole long list of bad decisions that day.
Its a fashion among a certain female caste.
Women are much more vulnerable to becoming fashion victims.
Relative to men, women are vastly more vulnerable to group dynamics.
Sadly, I have a niece who was in that march. She will be teaching pre-K's about their white guilt. She is convinced we are all guilty of white privilege even though her grandmother faced prejudice in Texas because of Mexican heritage. There is so much they do not know. They cannot be argued with, they answer with the rote catechism of their religion, Social Justice.
Myself, I saw one man kill another needlessly and recklessly and possibly intentionally.
I agree. I just don't think it was systemic racism. In fact I believe it's going to come out that there was a personal beef between the two (they knew each other and worked together at a club).
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