Fox News reports.
ADDED: NYT writer Bari Weiss has some very useful commentary at Twitter:
The civil war inside The New York Times between the (mostly young) wokes [and] the (mostly 40+) liberals is the same one raging inside other publications and companies across the country. The dynamic is always the same. The Old Guard lives by a set of principles we can broadly call civil libertarianism. They assumed they shared that worldview with the young people they hired who called themselves liberals and progressives. But it was an incorrect assumption. The New Guard has a different worldview, one articulated best by @JonHaidt and @glukianoff. They call it "safetyism," in which the right of people to feel emotionally and psychologically safe trumps what were previously considered core liberal values, like free speech.It's interesting that people who made safety so overwhelmingly important would accept rioting and vehemently oppose government's protecting citizens from the forces of chaos.
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This will be the end for the fascists.
Nobody likes them. They just get a lot of money from Mr. Slims.
The street thugs are petering out too.
Now it is time for the fascists to pay the price for failure.
Hilarious. The kids now rule the asylum.
Better read this again, if you haven't.
World ends tomorrow, Inga and Howard most affected. Actually, it only ends in blue states so you can flee, but stay away from Arizona.
The Times has been in decline for years, but even so, this is a shocking turn of events. I have an online subscription and am considering cancelling it. (Full disclosure: I probably won’t, but I’m at least a step closer to it after this news.)
It is fun watching the mensheviks and the bolsheviks fight though.
"Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving." --Iowahawk (David Burge)
Stick a fork in the NY Times.
They're done.
As Will Saletan showed, the “standards” thing is a lie by the NYT.
The Millennial Gazette
I know there is nothing objectionable in Cotton’s piece because it’s always described, never quoted.
Did you know James Bennet's grandparents got his mother out of the Warsaw Ghetto in 1940? Fascinating stuff, that. Could they have imagined that the left would be devouring their son in the 21st century? No, they could not.
Enjoy your allies, my Jewish-American buds. They'll turn on you FIRST. The process has already begun.
The Left really hates insufficient clapping.
Wow. I wouldn't have thought they were such cowards. He was asked to resign, right? I like to think I would have made them fire me.
All the news that's shit to print
And they canned the editor at the Philadelphia Inquirer too. His unspeakable crime was the headline: Buildings Matter, Too.
The guillotine is come for the Robespierres now.
Tom Cotton takes down the New York Times! Even Trump didn't do that.
Note that the alleged *news* reporters were able to force this resignation of the opinion page editor.
It's possible I could think even less of the NYTimes, but at the moment I don't see how.
And still, you will worry over the NY Times as nun might her rosary.
The New Woke Times. Only news and opinions that fit the Narrative are fit to print.
I read that 60% of Democrats polled approved of Cotton's advice.
Democrats. 60%.
The NY Times know when there's a crisis afoot, and only mass shaming will suffice to bring the flock back to their pens.
Quite a guy, that Cotton. First, he fights in Iraq. Now, he's taking scalps at the NYT.
inch, mile.
meanwhile, in Minneapolis:
On Sunday afternoon, a veto-proof majority of Minneapolis City Council members will announce their commitment to disbanding the city’s embattled police department, which has endured relentless criticism in the wake of the police killing of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man, on May 25.
“We’re here because we hear you. We are here today because George Floyd was killed by the Minneapolis Police. We are here because here in Minneapolis and in cities across the United States it is clear that our existing system of policing and public safety is not keeping our communities safe,” Minneapolis City Council President Lisa Bender said Sunday. “Our efforts at incremental reform have failed. Period.”
https://theappeal.org/minneapolis-city-council-members-announce-intent-to-disband-the-police-department-invest-in-proven-community-led-public-safety/
Same sort of thing happened at the Philly Inquirer- and editor was fired for putting a headline in the Tuesday paper, "Buildings Matter, Too."
The cannibalism that is going on on the Left is hilarious and scary all at the same time.
An opinion page exists to draw clicks. When an opinion cannot be published on an opinion page, that page is headed for failure. I’m smiling.
stevew said...
Wow. I wouldn't have thought they were such cowards. He was asked to resign, right? I like to think I would have made them fire me.
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if he resigns he doesn't get unemployment.
if he is fired he can claim unemployment.
University Presidents are still staying "inside the ghetto/gutter of mind"
stevew said...
Wow. I wouldn't have thought they were such cowards. He was asked to resign, right? I like to think I would have made them fire me.
He would never get invited to another cocktail party. You've got to focus on what is important to you.
Partial/Zappa/1966 https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/frankzappa/troubleeveryday.html
"Well, I seen the fires burnin'
And the local people turnin'
On the merchants and the shops
Who used to sell their brooms and mops
And every other household item
Watched the mob just turn and bite 'em
And they say it served 'em right
Because a few of them are white,
And it's the same across the nation
Black and white discrimination
Yellin' "You can't understand me!"
'N all that other jazz they hand me
In the papers and TV and
All that mass stupidity
That seems to grow more every day
Each time you hear some nitwit say
He wants to go and do you in
Because the color of your skin
Just don't appeal to him
(No matter if it's black or white)
Because he's out for blood tonight
You know we got to sit around at home
And watch this thing begin
But I bet there won't be many live
To see it really end
'Cause the fire in the street
Ain't like the fire in the heart
And in the eyes of all these people
Don't you know that this could start
On any street in any town
In any state if any clown
Decides that now's the time to fight
For some ideal he thinks is right
And if a million more agree
There ain't no Great Society
As it applies to you and me
Our country isn't free
And the law refuses to see
If all that you can ever be
Is just a lousy janitor
Unless your uncle owns a store
You know that five in every four
Just won't amount to nothin' more
Gonna watch the rats go across the floor
And make up songs about being poor"
Didn't the New York Times used to be good?
Did the peons wave their little red books or have a company wide struggle session before throwing the guy overboard?
The New York Times misrepresents the contents of Cotton’s op-ed in the first sentence of the tweet announcing Bennett’s defenestration:
“James Bennet, the editorial page editor of The New York Times, has resigned after a controversy over an Op-Ed by Senator Tom Cotton that called for military force against protesters in American cities”
Senator Cotton called for military force against lawbreakers if necessary.
Will Althouse ever admit what this moment is?
Does the coup make it clear?
The shutdown?
The riots?
The purges?
Will the cognitive dissonance be too strong?
As Burge says:
1. Target a respected institution
2. Kill & clean it
3. Wear it as a skin suit, while demanding respect
You people what been hanging on to NYT are hanging on to a once respected institution now dead.
It's been dead for quite a while...
This is a replay of the Chinese Cultural Revolution led by the Woke Media.
When do they open the reeducation camps?
Someone should tell the kids that the tumbrels run both ways..
What's crazier?
1. The opinion editor of the NYT being forced to resign about an *opinion* piece?
OR
2. The MPLS City Council wants to disband the police department?
The Libs are going insane. Trump wins about 40 states in November.
The NYT is now just another webzine where 26 year old interns who just graduated from Oberlin make all the decisions.
I think its funny that the far left liberal journalisters, who took their newspapers way way left, spit in the face of their conservative customers and bankrupted the papers, are now being eaten by the crocodiles. Pass the popcorn.
Enjoy your allies, my Jewish-American buds. They'll turn on you FIRST. The process has already begun.
Liberals get the bullet too.
We're on your side!
"I like to think I would have made them fire me."
-- I'd like to think I'd make that stand too, but I fully understand that the NYT is probably big enough to actually carry through on a "you'll never work in this town again" threat.
Wholly agree that the Left is going into a French Revolution type moment here. I'm waiting for the Mpls City Council to create a Committee on Public Safety.
So the riots, the looting, the beatings and the killing have now become the George Floyd unrest?
Through the looking glass, we've come.
That's the trouble with being woke. You're never woke enough.
1. The NYT Op-ed page editor is the brother of a Liberal Democrat US Senator
2. This editor was fired for letting a mainstream R Senator write an essay in favor of keeping law and order aka he was against rioting and looting.
3. The R Senator agreed the using the military was a last resort but stated it should be used if neccessary and quoted the LA riots of 1992 where troops restored order.
But to the Left-wingers at the NYT, including bubble head Michelle Goldberg, the essay was "Fascist" because uh...well because. And "Some Say" it endangered black journalists because uh...well because. Persuasive Reasons aren't necessary - Cotton strayed from "the party line" - so it was wrong to publish him. And so Bennett got fired.
The real question is this; Why do Republican Senators like Cotton read and want their writings to appear in a paper that is so biased and left-wing?
Letting Senator Cotton into the debate was a traditional exercise in showing both sides of an issue. But the SJW first rule is all debates are rigged so that only their beliefs are heard. Bennett broke rule#1. Take him out and shoot him.
Got to protect the NYT employees from alternative points of view or their tiny, closed minds would explode (or is the term implode in this case?). Can these liberal publications be hauled into Federal Court for denying a duly elected representative a voice on their media? I mean there used to be the “Fairness Doctrine” when it came to something like this during election season where TV (and maybe radio) had to allow a politician equal airtime when his/her opponent got airtime on that station. I am guessing that law was probably passed by Dems in a Dem controlled Congress to help ensure their candidates got elected/re-elected when up against a rich GOPer - but now that would be moot with all the uber rich Dems getting elected nationwide; but, I digress. Anyway, with what is happening with the anti-1st Amendment movement out there, what will these poor snowflakes do once the Bolsheviks take over and start persecuting them if they don’t think correctly? There will be no one left to go running to in order to complain...
Maybe the NYT should hire Tom Cotton as the new editor? Would shake things up a bit.
Philly inquirer has been circling the drain for years. It's been saved two or three times by well heeled Democrats who thought owning the only newspaper in town would help them control the narrative. Trouble is nobody reads it anymore. Only old people who read it out of habit. Hard to control the narrative that way.
Only a matter of time before it's history. It will make it through the November election, but after that?
"like Cotton read and want their writings to appear in a paper that is so biased and left-wing?"
Well, apparently to destroy it.
Just saying his name triggers some black people.
The real question is this; Why do Republican Senators like Cotton read and want their writings to appear in a paper that is so biased and left-wing?
The answer is that he is learning from Trump. Throw the red meat into the cage and watch the crazies erupt. He and that South Dakota governor are now the top two on my list for 2024.
So they're completely dismantling the New York times editorial structure. Lots of dismantling going on
The publisher said: "None of these changes mark(sic) a retreat from The Times’s responsibility to help people understand a range of voices across the breadth of public debate.”
Well hahaha. The changes do NOT mark a retreat, but, rather, a doubling down on a "breadth of debate" as defined by a bunch of cultists locked in a small echo chamber.
This is the sort of thing you'd expect from a Ministry of Propaganda.
Eating their own!! The masks are off!!!
What a bunch of hypocritical pussies. If they really cared about Black Lives, they wouldn't just fire a couple editors, they'd burn the whole building.
Jersey Fled: Inquirer has lost so many readers and so much money that it is now a true non-profit organization. It got a big endowment from he Lenfest Foundation and now actually solicits donations. I bet Soros is a big donor.
"It's interesting that people who made safety so overwhelmingly important would accept rioting and vehemently oppose government's protecting citizens from the forces of chaos."
"interesting", is it? C'mon, Althouse. Take that extra few seconds, or even minutes, if that's what it takes, to find the word or phrase that really describes what it is. Paradoxical? Ironic? Unlikely? Disgusting? Niggardly? Unconvincing? No accident? Supercalifragilisticexpialidocius?
Then you can work on "forces of chaos".
Planned Publisher. #Cancelled
rcocean: "The real question is this; Why do Republican Senators like Cotton read and want their writings to appear in a paper that is so biased and left-wing?"
Cotton done blowed em up.
Leftist autophagy is a thing. The trick is to be more dangerous to attack than the rest of the possible choices for denunciation. See Hillary Clinton, for example. She'll be taken down by the Left, but not until most others of her generation are gone. I can hardly wait.
The NY Times has been done for years. Yet it keeps getting propped up by a steady cult of adherents who seem to not care that it quit being objective in the 30's (that is the 1930s), and as of late, has become a paper version of Vox.
The news writers at the Times actually are now directing the opinion section. Just this weekend, the Pittsburgh paper and the New York paper lost their opinion page editors for badthink. Meanwhile, over in the news division, the hack who developed the 1619 story, keeps spreading her hackery around to organizations and school districts only too happy to play along, lest they be viewed as racist or accomplices. (accomplices to what, you might ask?)
The 1619 storyline will be taught to the next generation of students, making sure they achieve the next level of hate for their country. And on we go.
Just for the record- this is not going to end well for anyone. As it was put so well by Ed Driscoll over at Instapundit, James Bennet was "Fired for publishing an op-ed written by a Republican senator espousing an opinion held by the majority of the American public." We're at the point where you cannot have an opposing view in the New York Times, and certainly not print an op-ed by a Republican.
How do people rationalize sending money to this organization? And if you're so leaning, why the Times? Why not Pravda? Why not Xinhua? It's not just that the times is not Journalism! It's dangerous.
You'd think they could settle it peacefully by having everybody sign a loyalty oath.
Safetyism? Na, just one more item on the endless list of reasons to tell other people what to do.
The Red Guards are in charge there now, the Cultural Revolution has begun!
I'm so old, I remember when liberals tolerated other points of view and believed in free speech.
Or as William F. Buckley put it, “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
It all opens an opportunity to do something deliberately but not intentionally. J.L.Austin:
Can we think of a case in which something is done deliberately but not intentionally? Certainly this seems more difficult. However, there are cases.
I am summoned to quell a riot in India. Speed is imperative. My mind runs on the action to be taken five miles down the road at the Residency. As I set off down the drive, my cookboy's child's new gocart, the apple of her eye, is right across the road. I realize I could stop, get out, and move it, but to hell with that: I must push on. It's too bad, that's all: I drive right over it and am on my way. In this case, a snap decision is taken on what is essentially an incidental matter. I did drive over the gocart deliberately, but not intentionally - nor, of course, unintentionally either.
J.L.Austin "Three Ways of Spilling Ink" _Philosophical Papers_ p.278
Dave Begley said...
Wholly agree that the Left is going into a French Revolution type moment here. I'm waiting for the Mpls City Council to create a Committee on Public Safety.
I think that the Ministry of Love is kind of catchy.
"It's interesting that people who made safety so overwhelmingly important would accept rioting and vehemently oppose government's protecting citizens from the forces of chaos."
It is "interesting."
Now, when you are done observing, draw some conclusions from what you are observing.
Scott Adams found a good way to put it in today's periscope, namely that you can't build a functioning system on empathy. The ones who complain best get the stuff, which can't work anywhere.
That's the system the cancel culture works on. The violator always lacks empathy of the precise kind that the complainer of the day requires.
My version was structure vs feelings.
"Throw the red meat into the cage and watch the crazies erupt."
Even pointing this out to them, they still can't help themselves. It's a beautiful thing.
We have had at least a generation protected from hearing any facts or opinions which differ in any way from the campus mob They achieved this through a Gramscian march through institutions, and blocking any other views, violently if necessary. THey have no respect for free speech or civility, only their own feelings. They have the NYT scalp and will move on to the next target, and rest assured journalism as credible source of factual reporting is dead.
"The real question is this; Why do Republican Senators like Cotton read and want their writings to appear in a paper that is so biased and left-wing?"
Walk into the fire, that's where the arsonists are, and the people who need to hear the message.
Vanessa Friedman better mind her p's and q's! As the chief fashion critic and director for the NYT she's now accountable to the progressive Jacobins who forced the departure of James Bennet. What is chic and outre and acceptable for that crowd? It's like a zillion Hedda Hoppers have been let loose on the world! Oh wait, that's Twitter.
Bennett is the legacy of a state department bureaucrat from johnson to the clintons, also head of npr
Even more amazing was the statement by Katie Kingsbury, the NYT functionary replacing Bennett for now. She is quoted in the NYT write-up saying that, if from now on any reader finds anything offensive in an op-Ed, she wants to hear about it. Translated from NYT-speak, she means only any lefty who is offended -- conservatives will be safely ignored. The new mission of the NYT and especially its opinion pages (in truth, that's the whole paper) will be never, ever to publish anything that the wokidokes don't approve.
Hard to see how the NYT recovers. If they wanted to prove Bari Weiss was understating the realities, they could hardly have done better than this.
Carlos Slim Hardest Hit
We cannot let non-leftists speak or discuss their opinions.
When democrat states and cities fail - we must blame republicans.
When Antifa fascists beat people and damage property - we blame others.
-NYT
David Martosko
@dmartosko
He was fired for publishing the *wrong* opinion.
And think about this: It was *news reporters* at the Times who muscled management into this. Which means the wall between news and editorial is completely gone over there.
rcocean said...
The real question is this; Why do Republican Senators like Cotton read and want their writings to appear in a paper that is so biased and left-wing?
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you should know better than that! if you have watched LooneyTunes as child
- your enemy is digging hole under his feet and you don't want to give him a bigger shovel?
It's tempting to laugh or cheer at the Old Guard's comeuppance after years of being so self-righteous and so confident of their own fitness to rule, but the New Guard is scary.
Dostoevsky scholar Gary Saul Morson sees a parallel between today's woke young and the Russian intelligentsia of the late 19th and early 20th century:
“To me it’s astonishingly like late 19th-, early 20th-century Russia, when principally your entire educated class felt you merely needed to be in opposition to the regime or some form of revolutionary.”
(I found a garbled version of the article, but it's available on the WSJ website if you do whatever it is that they want you to do.)
How does today's situation compare with the 1960s and 1970s here? It's not quite a mass Black insurrection or college students blowing up labs or sympathizers running guns to radicals, but there are an awful lot of wokies out there.
Does anyone else remember Demolition Derby ? This is Demolition Derby for cities. All you need is Democrats.
Let's see. Centralization. Diversity. Broken glass. Witch hunts. Warlock judgments. Abortion... cancellation. What's Left?
The real question is this; Why do Republican Senators like Cotton read and want their writings to appear in a paper that is so biased and left-wing?
Optimism.
They're trumped Dorsey for the warnings he slapped on Trump's tweets in trashing speech and tempting fate with daring displays of woke. The decline of all things NYC lately is precipitous.
I'd like to thank the NYT "news" "reporters" for firmly establishing, in public, that the NYT is solely a proaganda outfit for the Left, and is not in any way a news organization.
"The NYT reporter"
"Stop right there. This is the place where the paper fired the Opinion Editor for allowing a US Senator to publish an opinion piece that the news reporters didn't like. The idea that they actually report news is ludicrous."
"The real question is this; Why do Republican Senators like Cotton read and want their writings to appear in a paper that is so biased and left-wing?"
I may have read it wrong, but my impression is that the Times asked Cotton to write a piece for the editorial page. After the NYT viziers and Cotton's people agreed on a topic and a draft was submitted, there were no fewer than three back-and-forths, including "fact-checking," whatever that means now, before the commentary was blessed and run in the paper/on the website.
If this is so, Cotton wasn't wrong (except for wrongthink) and the op-ed staff wasn't wrong. The problem was the pitchfork brigade on the NYT's ostensible "news" staff.
Perhaps if these worthies had known that, in addition to being from the south, he was a graduate of Harvard Law, they might have recognized him and/or his views as meriting consideration.
We will never know, of course.
What I don't get is how the junior employees can have so much power in an industry so grossly oversupplied with candidates. I mean, qualified nurses, from what I've heard, are in short supply, so you have to treat them well because they're essential and very hard to replace. But surely the New York Freaking Times could snap their fingers and replace the entire bottom half of the pay scale in a day or two with journalists working at less-prestigious papers, which, for historical reasons, is all other papers. Why don't the bosses have the guts to do that? The same goes for the publisher that canceled Woody Allen's book: surely a big New York publisher has a near-infinite supply of entry-level drones available and can replace any number of rebellious peons?
Is the problem that all the other job applicants in journalism and publishing are just as ridiculously narrow-minded, 'sensitive', and bigoted? That's not a pleasant thought.
BleachBit-and-Hammers say...And think about this: It was *news reporters* at the Times who muscled management into this. Which means the wall between news and editorial is completely gone over there. <--That
Trump is to blame; Scientific chronology proves it: NYT start downhill with his erection! DJT staff more happy than WaPo staff!!
Althouse,
"It's interesting that people who made safety so overwhelmingly important would accept rioting and vehemently oppose government's protecting citizens from the forces of chaos"
Nah, it's just another predictable and boring instance of Fen's Law. "Safety" is abandoned the moment it stops being the most useful means of applying force.
"in which the right of people to feel ..."
I think what is meant is 'in which the right of THE RIGHT KIND OF people to feel ...'.
The link by Michael K at 5:04 is must read. The article is inaccurate in only one sense, as it states that the safetyists are predominantly young college age people over the last 5 years. My liberal friends in their 60’s and 70’s are pretty much the same on a host of topics, including politics, climate change, Trump, race, Trump, Trump......
Safetyism explains why I see so many young, healthy high school and college aged kids wearing masks in the grocery stores, on hikes, and riding their bikes. Fear of a disease that does not kill people their age.
And Michael K, I’m here in a Tucson too. Last thing we need here is the morons who voted Minnesota and Minneapolis government officials into office. They’ll learn nothing from this experience and do it over again here if they come.
It's interesting that people who made safety so overwhelmingly important would accept rioting and vehemently oppose government's protecting citizens from the forces of chaos.
Not interesting at all. Those who find safety overwhelmingly important are only interested in their own safety, not anybody else's safety.
I think the real problem, over the years, has been that liberals of yore playing footsie with partisanship in increasing doses. Perhaps as a reaction to increasing heft of conservative media. The new generation signaled to these “civil libertarians” that their stance was desirable. The shock is that these new punks really cared for their footsie angle and not the liberal one. OMG
Don't you DARE not think like the rest of us, or you are OUT!!! So progressive!!!
Safety for me but not for thee.
The New York Times: All the News that's fit to print. Except they don't mean that.
I'm afraid that after a few more generations of public education, the children of the red states will be just like the woke crybullies we see in the blue regions. This is as much a generational battle as it is political.
Safetyism is a cover for an agenda that has a North Star: POWER. So understood, all apparent contradictions melt away.
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