Twitter reports on a Twitter trend that started here:
‘People who menstruate.’ I’m sure there used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) June 6, 2020
Opinion: Creating a more equal post-COVID-19 world for people who menstruate https://t.co/cVpZxG7gaA
She followed up with:
If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It isn’t hate to speak the truth.Just because you're empathetic doesn't mean that other people will be empathetic toward you. In fact, they may see you as a mark from whom more empathy can always be demanded. It's like the way they keep giving more work to the busiest person.
The idea that women like me, who’ve been empathetic to trans people for decades, feeling kinship because they’re vulnerable in the same way as women - ie, to male violence - ‘hate’ trans people because they think sex is real and has lived consequences - is a nonsense.
I respect every trans person’s right to live any way that feels authentic and comfortable to them. I’d march with you if you were discriminated against on the basis of being trans. At the same time, my life has been shaped by being female. I do not believe it’s hateful to say so.
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"I respect every trans person’s right to live any way that feels authentic and comfortable to them." Psychotics feel authentic about their thoughts, too. Should we support their psychosis?
Well, who decided Dumbledore should be gay? Enjoy the ride down the slippery slope, Ms Social Justice of Yesteryear!
Progress!!! Making people shut up, one person at a time!!! Welcome to the Progressive party. Group think for the world...
Well said JKR.
People who create enormously profitable IP that caters to children should in general just shut up and live with their hundreds of millions.
That is if they like their legacy. JK Rowling achieves nothing here except sullying the reputation of Harry Potter. There is nothing to be gained, only much lost.
Her actions are like arguing politics on Facebook, an absolute waste of time no one with a brain does anymore. Here JK comes to prove it yet again - no one is swayed, except some people who had considered HP World at Universal deciding to go to Disney instead.
"women like me [have] been empathetic to trans people for decades, feeling kinship because they’re vulnerable in the same way as women"
And that, as the estimable Ms. Rowling is learning, counts for nothing. Is she really naive enough to believe that treating a disadvantaged group with dignity and respect and goodwill is enough?
Jay Nordlinger tells the story of his interview with the formerly leftist Eugene Genovese:
"He joined the Party at 15 and was kicked out at 20. I asked him why. He shrugged and said, 'I zigged when I should have zagged.'"
I wish the left all possible joy of the world they're creating.
It isn't that the definitions, names, descriptions, and other aspects of sexuality are constantly changing that is laughable. What is ridiculous is the attempt to demand that censorious scolds be allowed to censor and scold, all the while changing that which they censor and what they decide to scold about. It is a game of whack-a-mole, with the intent of making the moles keep their heads down.
I refuse to play. Nobody else gets to tell me what words to avoid, to use, to love or deplore. Nobody. Go eff yourself, I don't care for your behavior and won't tolerate it. And I damn sure won't play your stupid power games, which is all this is.
"I do not believe it’s hateful to say so."
She makes sense, of course, but she also misses the point: it doesn't matter what she believes. It matters what prog overlords dictate. That what they dictate does not make sense and cannot be believed makes it all the more effective. If you can get people to acknowledge that, their self-abasement keeps them in line.
Time for a proper struggle session.
Could someone please explain how men can have menstrual periods?
She's richer than the Queen of England. True "fuck you" money. She can say anything she wants. She could kill someone on the Strand and people would still love her and buy her books.
She nails it. Nonsense destroys everything. That is why Fake News Media’s narratives are attacks on everything.
Could she explain why trans women should feel vulnerable to men, or at least more so than other women. From what I've read most of the venom directed at trans women seems to come from lesbians or lefty women.
She should have reread her 1984 before making any statements
Mark said...People who create enormously profitable IP that caters to children should in general just shut up and live with their hundreds of millions.
It’s called “fuck you money” and Rowling has plenty of it.
For the most part, Rowling is a reliable looney lefty (the World of Harry Potter is far too sexually juvenile for there to have been a gay character so subtly drawn that only later analysis revealed it), but she has her limits. The trans community is showing her that supporting them in most things will buy her no Indulgence when she does not support them.
Unknown said...
Could someone please explain how men can have menstrual periods?
transmen.
folks with xy chromosomes, who bind or cut their boobs off and wear pants, but haven't yet had "bottom surgery"
I find it interesting that the photo shows some type of educational material being user to teach these tribal members about menstruation.
All I see are pictures of women at different ages. Why not some photos of men who menstruate. Why are these educators such bigots and haters?
Appeasement never works. Ask a battered spouse- the one who menstruates or the one who doesn't. If I just do better, he or she won't hit me, throw things at me, threaten to kill me, etc. It never ends well unless the appeaser learns to walk away and never look back. But old habits are hard to break, and some appeasers are lucky they never found themselves in an abusive relationship.
important to remember
a woman, is ANYONE that WANTS to be a Woman, for the length of time they Want that
a man, is ANYONE that WANTS to be a man, for the length of time they Want that
a WOMAN, needs SPECIAL STATUS and SPECIAL PROTECTIONS, because of who she is
a MAN, is DENIED those things, because of who he is
or, maybe we can all agree?
That EVERYONE Deserves Special Status? Everyone except White cis-males, that is???
Let the book burning begin!!
People who menstruate are people who are not pregnant, and people who are not pregnant includes men.
The world of the Left is going completely mad. If you are in a city run by Democrats top to bottom, I would strongly suggest you either leave or start arming yourself to the teeth, illegally if you have to. Start reaching out to your neighbors to form cooperative defense groups. The police won't protect you, even if their political leaders actually give them permission to try. This all may subside by the next week, but I no longer am confident of this.
" It isn’t hate to speak the truth." Come on man, get with the program.
I saw that go down last night, and tweeted it's a good thing she's made her pile because she's done.
But maybe it'll all get lost in the shuffle because it's not about BLM.
As I have been in a gay bath house pre-1980, and I have personally known a tranny stripper, allow me to answer Unkown about men's menstrual periods: biological females who dress up as men have periods. See how simple that was?
Now explain Weird Al Yankovic to me, and we're even!
Aw geeze liberal PC people. You are such a drag. Ignoring biological facts is a sign of blind stupidity.
"It isn't hate to speak the truth."
Since when - 1975? What cave has she been living in? Students have been taught since before that that anyone who disagrees with them or challenges the Progressive narrative is a hater and a threat, and the better defended and supported their position, the more guilty they are. Look at the NYT debacle over Tom Cotton, to go no further than today's news. This is civilizational suicide.
Gene Genovese...
Liberal values in another era. This is what we though America was about. Maybe we were wrong.
At an April 23, 1965, teach-in at Rutgers University where he was teaching, Genovese stated, "Those of you who know me know that I am a Marxist and a Socialist. Therefore, unlike most of my distinguished colleagues here this morning, I do not fear or regret the impending Viet Cong victory in Vietnam. I welcome it." This comment was widely reported and generated a backlash of criticism. Politicians questioned Genovese's judgment and sensitivity to the responsibility inherent in being a Rutgers professor. Richard M. Nixon, then out of office and living in New York, denounced him, and the Republican candidate for governor of New Jersey, Wayne Dumont, challenging Governor Richard J. Hughes, used Genovese's statement as a campaign issue, demanding that Hughes dismiss Genovese from the state university. Bumper stickers saying “Rid Rutgers of Reds” popped up on cars across the state. Genovese insisted that he did not mean to say that he hoped American servicemen would be killed. No state laws or university regulations had been broken, and Genovese was supported by fellow faculty members on grounds of academic freedom. He was not dismissed from his teaching position.[8]
Rutgers President Mason Gross refused to re-examine the university's position, and Dumont lost to Governor Hughes. President Gross' defense of academic freedom was honored by the American Association of University Professors, who presented him and Rutgers with its Alexander Meiklejohn Award in 1966.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Genovese
"It is a game of whack-a-mole, with the intent of making the moles keep their heads down."
I don't know who the first person was, who described it as "Calvinball", but they weren't wrong.
If you have to diminish the brightness of other stars so that your star can shine brightly, you are doing it wrong. If it is the case the for Trans lives to matter, other lives cannot be allowed to matter, then you are not for love and acceptance, you are for division and tyranny.
When they came for those who made similar points, JK wasn't just silent, she made Dumbledore gay. I guess she is all that is left to speak out.
Trans/neo-female phobic. Trans/homo-females excluded.
Could someone please explain how men can have menstrual periods?
It's a psychosomatic effect that is realized through a sociopolitical congruence ("="). There could also be medical corruption or special effects to simulate its appearance or feeling.
sorry,
I meant XX chromosomes
Dumb Lefty Mark:"People who create enormously profitable IP that caters to children should in general just shut up and live with their hundreds of millions."
What a perfectly lefty thing to write.
Absolutely Havel-Green Grocer perfect.
"Well, who decided Dumbledore should be gay?"
The funny thing about that is that Dumbledore's 'gayness' is the reason of his fall from grace, so to speak, and the cause of his life of repentance. Not exactly an endorsement of the 'style' but more like a morality play. Rowling is a better artist then an activist it seems (*).
(*) Though she doesn't mind being a life long supporter of the New 'grooming gang' Labour Party
But I was progressive!
Sex politics and politics in sex and the transgender spectrum.
Sebastian: "She makes sense, of course, but she also misses the point: it doesn't matter what she believes. It matters what prog overlords dictate. That what they dictate does not make sense and cannot be believed makes it all the more effective. If you can get people to acknowledge that, their self-abasement keeps them in line.
Time for a proper struggle session."
See Dumb Lefty Marks comment at 9:31am.
"Could someone please explain how men can have menstrual periods?"
Well, sonny, on the 28th of every month--write this down--the moon causes the blood in the ovarium majorum to congelliate in the Fullopennin tubes. That's when grabity takes over and the "period" starts. They're usually over in four or five days, but they (menstrualating persons) get real cranky so watch it.
Trans men use surgery, drugs, and the power of positive thinking to get the same effect.
Narr
I have two masters degrees
"People who create enormously profitable IP that caters to children should in general just shut up and live with their hundreds of millions."
HillarySTFU!
Will no one speak up for the post-menopausal women?
As to Ms. Rawlings -- her lived experience is proof of how much of great writing is unconscious and inspired. She wrote the character of Dolores Umbridge absolutely perfectly, as well as the experience of the children at her mercy. And yet she doesn't understand or recognize the Dolores Umbridges with whom she is arguing now.
Too weird to care about. JKRowlings is a billionaire SJW leftist - let Stalin and Trotsky fight it out.
52 years on we have another 1968. At least we don't have thousands of troops getting killed this year. Like the Left gave Nixon the election in 68, they are going to give it again to Trump this year. And unlike Nixon, Trump already survived his Watergate.
Circling back to the thread subject matter, who anointed the so-called trans leaders?And why should anyone care what these so-called leaders say? I some people with a body dysmorphia want to think they are something they are, they are free to do so. However I'm free not to accept their delusion.
I tried to join the women’s sewing circle, but I couldn’t....
Blogger Unknown said...
"Could someone please explain how men can have menstrual periods?"
Imagine Caitlyn Jenner at lunch with the girls explaining her prostate issues.
Instead of the phrases "transgender man" or "transgender woman," we should use the phrases "man who identifies as a woman" or "woman who identifies as a man." That would greatly clarify things instead of confusing them.
Rowling has a bit of a sense of humor, in a humorless era, no?
This is not the first time she called a girl a girl, a boy a boy. The audacity!
NY Times Op-Ed: White People Should Stop Talking To Relatives Until They Support BLM--6/5/20 Op-Ed
NPR ADVISES READERS TO ’DECOLONIZE” THEIR BOOKSHELVES BY REMOVING WHITE AUTHORS
Gee, nothing marxist about any of that.
I am still hoping for an answer to my question above--how to men have periods?
What exactly/specifically/graphically does a man do to have a period, i.e to simulate one?
Imagine Caitlyn Jenner at lunch with the girls explaining her prostate issues.
Christine Jorgensen, the first "transgender woman," died in my hospital of prostate cancer.
Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?
We could use a poll on this one - I vote for "wimpund".
Bay Area Guy: "Rowling has a bit of a sense of humor, in a humorless era, no?"
As you can see from Dumb Lefty Mark's remarks, humor is not much appreciated within People's Revolutionary Actions.
"People who menstruate" not only fails to include pregnant women, but excludes post-menopausal women, and post-hysterectomy women, as well.
Of course, "women" has, until recently, simply meant "adult female human." And has referenced sex (not gender).
The attempt to re-define this as referencing gender (not sex) thus one with no word with which express the former meaning. Thus leaving one with awkward/inadequate substitutes, such as "people who menstruate."
Which seems to be the whole point:
" 'The whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought.' It will render dissent 'literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.' " -- from the Newspeak dictionary-appendix in Orwell's 1984.
‘People who menstruate.’ You've come a long way, baby.
"If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. Period."
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FIFY
clint said...
And yet she doesn't understand or recognize the Dolores Umbridges with whom she is arguing now.
6/7/20, 10:37 AM
I'm quite certain she does. Unlike Harry Potter or even Hermione Granger, JKR is a coward and won't fight them no matter how much money she has.
Which is fine. If the Harry Potter series has an advantage, it's using timeless themes in an era of moral confusion. JKR knows what happens to cowardly societies: any Voldemort can effortlessly dominate them. So she knows what will happen next.
Douglas said...
Instead of the phrases "transgender man" or "transgender woman," we should use the phrases "man who identifies as a woman" or "woman who identifies as a man." That would greatly clarify things instead of confusing them.
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Make that "disturbed man" and "disturbed woman", and you will have clarified the situation even further.
Drago said...
NY Times Op-Ed: White People Should Stop Talking To Relatives Until They Support BLM--6/5/20 Op-Ed
NPR ADVISES READERS TO ’DECOLONIZE” THEIR BOOKSHELVES BY REMOVING WHITE AUTHORS
Gee, nothing marxist about any of that.
The masks are off.
I am taking their advice to an extent though.
I am forcing people to denounce the animals and marxists that are destroying other peoples lives.
I am also forcing them to acknowledge that Democrats are and have been in charge of every institution in Minneapolis for the last 50 years that led to the death of George Floyd.
If they refuse they are forced to deal with the fact they are denying reality.
It also opens up an opportunity to decry the public school system which is perfectly socioeconomically segregated.
This is so boring. Since this seems to be heading to the shooting part, let's just speed that up, get it over with and then move on to something more sensible and interesting.
This is what Dumb Lefty Mark and his marxist antifa/BLM pals have in store for everyone.
And its already here.........
If I were in public life, I would never say anything, positive or negative, about transgendered people. Your choices are either to say something servile or say something that defies common sense.....Also, if you're in public life, avoid all mentions of George Floyd's drug use and past criminal activities.....I'm not in public life and this is an anonymous venue, so here goes. Transgendered people are entitled to live their lives with dignity and free of ridicule, but some of them really do look off putting and strange. Well morbidly obese Democratic politicians can live their lives free of fat shaming remarks, so I suppose the same grace can be allowed for the transgendered......I think the cop who put his knee on George Floyd's neck should be criminally charged,but I think all this talk about how George Floyd was some kind of saintly, inspirational figure is bullshit. He was on meth and passing counterfeit bills when arrested. But anyone in public life who utters any caveats on George Floyd's behavior will not be in public life for much time after uttering them.
Prior to the release of Welcome to My Nightmare (1975) in the US, a shortened version of [Only Women Bleed] was released as a single and was alternatively titled "Only Women" by Atlantic Records due to protests by feminist groups.
I assume those feminist protests were not on behalf of transgender males.
[A] ballad about a woman in an abusive marriage. The song is often mistakenly presumed to be about menstruation, and that has limited its play on radio...
Cover versions of the song have been recorded by notable artists including:
Ike & Tina Turner on the 1980 album The Edge (originally recorded in 1975).
AA - Mobs are difficult to control and placate!
Just look at what happened to Minneapolis "Mayor Jacob Frey" - shades of the French Revolution! 'La Terreur' [The Terror] which followed the overthrow of the monarchy. 'Spurious accusations of treason by Maximilien Robespierre and the Committee of Public Safety...' took it to another level and continued to feed the mob with 'hangings', 'be-headings', 'public shaming', etc. Violence, once unleashed, can rarely be controlled - unintended consequences.
Transgender men?
Do you mean women who dress like men?
Are we pretending that a rose by any other name is a marigold?
This is called defining women out of existence.
Mark said...
People who create enormously profitable IP that caters to children should in general just shut up and live with their hundreds of millions.
That is if they like their legacy. JK Rowling achieves nothing here except sullying the reputation of Harry Potter. There is nothing to be gained, only much lost.
Her actions are like arguing politics on Facebook, an absolute waste of time no one with a brain does anymore. Here JK comes to prove it yet again - no one is swayed, except some people who had considered HP World at Universal deciding to go to Disney instead.
The masks are off.
Fuck you fascist.
The backlash against people like you is going to be glorious.
n.n: "But I was progressive!"
Indeed. The dying cry of the insufficiently woke.
If only Comrade Stalin knew what was happening to me he would stop it! I still believe in the revolution! Uh, why are those guys loading their weapons....and why am I standing against this stained wall?........
You can call them "people who menstruate," so long as you be sure to add, "are the luckiest people in the world."
And I say this as one who failed geometry because I could not mensurate.
Caligula said...
" 'The whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought.' It will render dissent 'literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.' " -- from the Newspeak dictionary-appendix in Orwell's 1984.
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Thank you Sir.
I note from Wikipedia
Nineteen Eighty-Four: A Novel, often published as 1984, is a dystopian novel by English novelist George Orwell. It was published on 8 June 1949
Are you familiar with Anthem? Society where you lose the word "I"
Anthem is a dystopian fiction novella by Russian-American writer Ayn Rand, written in 1937 and first published in 1938 in the United Kingdom. Rand revised the text for the US edition published in 1946.
There is some error, one frightful error, in the thinking of men.
What is that error? We do not know, but the knowledge struggles
within us, struggles to be born.
Today, the Golden One stopped suddenly and said:
"We love you."
But {+then+} they frowned and shook their head and looked at us
helplessly.
"No," they whispered, "that is not what we wished to say."
They were silent, then they spoke slowly, and their words were
halting, like the words of a child learning to speak for the
first time:
"We are one . . . alone . . . and only . . . and we love you who
are one . . . alone . . . and only."
We looked into each other's eyes and we knew that the breath of a
miracle had touched us, and fled, and left us groping vainly.
And we felt torn, torn for some word we could not find.
Unknown said...
I am still hoping for an answer to my question above--how to men have periods?
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get on a periodic table of elements in chemistry class?
Lurker21
And I say this as one who failed geometry because I could not mensurate.
ROTFL
You made this bed, JK. Now SLEEP.
The situational language of "trans" became clear to me from an instsructive comment I read some months ago. Think of the prefix trans, as not, so a trans-man is Not a man, a trans-woman is NOT a woman. Now some trans-male identifiers still have ovaries, womb, cervix, etc so they menstruate. That's all a given. Now i give you this, their delusions do not belong to you or me, we do not have them, we do not "identify" with their unique mental/sexual dysphoric issues, and we do not have to. So good for J.K., let her take a hit, she can afford it. But my thanks to you for trying to convince people of the purity needed for proper words to be able to communicate. She is on the side of Jordan Peterson on this one thing here, in this one thread, but she touches on the basic hypocrisy of the twisted thought of controlling the meaning of words and ascribing a feeling on others that they do not feel.
"biological females who dress up as men"
How do men dress?
After all, it's MENstruate. ;)
Perhaps she should simply respond with a bit of Samuel Johnson:
"I have found you an argument but I am not obliged to find you an understanding."
And good on her for saying exactly what most of us are thinking.
>>NPR ADVISES READERS TO ’DECOLONIZE” THEIR BOOKSHELVES BY REMOVING WHITE AUTHORS
Let every city establish a central location where people can deposit their white author books, and then we can have the local rioters burn them.
Problem solved. The ahistorical will welcome this solution.
We are confusing the words "woman" and "female". A man can menstruate if he is also female, just as a woman who happens to also be male can have prostate cancer.
Once you accept that there are male and female men, and male and female women, the rest is ...
... funny.
Burnt by the Sun. Stalin rising over wheatfields. WHO programs to protect impoverished women hijacked by Columbia University Professors of Adolescent Transition...
Rowling is speaking the common sense of ten years ago, and ten years from now. Someone has to start the process.
Another appeaser hoping the crocodile eats her last.
"Could someone please explain how men can have menstrual periods?"
No-- but we can tell you why trans men riot, smash windows, and steal--
... Lootin'izing hormone !!
I believe the word you're looking for is "sucker."
She could enjoy her fabulous wealth and disappear from public consciousness but no, that just isn't possible for her. It's comedy for those of us that don't care about: what she thinks, what others think about what she thinks, or what happens because she thinks it.
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