May 4, 2020

"... used them beautifully... dumped them nicely..."


I don't know what he's talking about or how that #OPENJOECOLDCASE hashtag is doing. I see the top trending hashtag this morning is DON LEMON, and I know what that is....

Anyway.... "used them beautifully... dumped them nicely" — that's pretty cruel. And what the point of stating something "on the record" and then using quotes — "nuts"?

Ah... here's an article explaining what that "Florida Cold Case" is. From Mediaite:
The “Florida Cold Case” here is the death of Lori Klausutis, the 28-year-old intern found dead in Scarborough’s district office when he was still serving as U.S. Congressman for Florida’s 1st Congressional district. An autopsy concluded that Klausutis’ death happened after heart problems caused her to fall and hit her head on a desk in 2001.

Even though there were no indications of foul play or suicide, the tragedy prompted a number of conspiracy theories....
I've got to say, Trump's tweet this morning is some really trashy trash talk. Psycho... Crazy... "nuts"....

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daskol said...

A more competent political operator could've achieved so much more.

Ah, the old "no truly competent political operator would do that" fallacy.

Birkel said...

ARM believes the EU is not already wrecked?
The PIIGS disagree, of course.
And millions of immigrants will suck the life blood out of the dying corpse.

Have you been frozen in amber?

J. Farmer said...

@SlickWillie Clinton:

Describe for us which of the Iranian activities that you would be willing to let Iran continue to do with impunity - the things they want, in other words:

The phrase "with impunity" makes no sense in that context, since Iran is one of the most sanctioned countries on the planet, the West encouraged and assisted Iraq with carrying out its war against Iran, and we have used numerous overt and covert means to bring the regime down. Why is Iran able to have normal relations with Russia and China? Because both accept the legitimacy of the regime and aren't involved in trying to bring it down.

What you describe as "NOT the activities of a normal country," are in fact quite regular features of the countries in the region. ISIS was a consequence of "friendly" countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia and the UAE supporting proxy forces to make war against Assad. The tactics you describe are employed by all the regional powers in the balance of power competition. The fundamental dishonesty of the Iran obsession is that Iran is a uniquely menacing or nefarious power. It is an authoritarian regional power primarily interested in expanding its regional influence. This ambition will be checked by other regional powers with divergent interests. Iran similarly checks the expansion of the other powers. The US gains nothing by inserting itself in the middle of this.

J. Farmer said...

@doctrev:

I imagine Barack Obama thought this, and also tried implementing a similar strategy of dealing with Iran while sponsoring terrorists against them. It was about as stabilizing as one could guess, and was a major factor in the Gulf States funding ISIS against Iran and Syria. The second Donald Trump took a more clear-eyed view of the situation, the ISIS funding stopped and they became extremely vulnerable.

The Obama administration pursued a vigorous sanctions path against Iran. I have no idea what you are referring to when you say "tried implementing a similar strategy of dealing with Iran." The Obama administration was eager to adopt a policy of opposing Assad, hoping that a popular uprising against his government would deal a blow to Iran's regional positioning.

Trump was wise to stop trying to undermine Assad and focus solely on ISIS. But that is not the preferred solution by most Iran hawks. Also, Trump has offered nothing novel in his approach to foreign policy problems. Rather, he is following the same dead end strategy of bluster and sanctions. This has been our approach to Iran and North Korea for decades. Trump has added Venezuela to the list.

J. Farmer said...

@iowan2:

That would be stupid right? Stop doing what is successful, and try to be someone you aren't. That's the comment I can't see the purpose in.

Because we have different definitions of "successful." Getting what any standard Republican president would have gotten is not all that impressive. It's in the areas where Trump distinguished himself from mainstream Republicans that I judge him.

J. Farmer said...

@Ray - So Cal:

Iran has been at war with the US since 1979. The US usually does not notice. How many American's died in Iraq due to Iranian actions? Nice IED's they specially made in Iran.

If Russia or China invaded Mexico, overthrew its government, installed an interim viceroy government, and worked to create a new state more aligned with its model, do you think the US would try to undermine it?

On Yemen being a humanitarian disaster, why is that our problem?

Because we are participating in it.

On the Saudi's being a client state, disagree. The Saudi's do push the limits. 9-11, growth in Wahabism worldwide, Islamic Terrorism Growth - all funded by the Saudi's, and ignored for the most part by the US.

Our Saudi policy is very clear. We support an authoritarian regime that will do business with us. It's entirely predicated on keeping a lid on popular, democratic forces. If the Saudi monarchy was replaced tomorrow with a democratic government, the Saudis would elect leaders with policies we don't like. The Saudis know this and are able to use it to their advantage to gain concessions from more powerful countries.

J. Farmer said...

You didn't mention sponsoring terrorist groups working against Israel and against the United States in Iraq. That alone would have gotten Iran destroyed by a more competent President than Bush or Obama, assuming they didn't end all proxy terror after the first harsh lesson.

Just like we destroyed China over the Korean War? We would have responded to the insurgency by starting another war with a larger, more populous country? And what should have been the consequences for countries like Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Turkey who were supporting Sunni insurgents in Iraq? Also destruction?

Jim at said...

What would be the point of wrecking the EU?

An organization that was explicitly created to compete against the United States economy and ARM wonders why we want it disbanded.

Very telling.

Ray - SoCal said...

J. Farmer - I agree with your worry on Trumpism, where he is not building a legacy / farm team of politicians to succeed him.

>The other basic problem I see with Trump is that too much of it is wrapped in him
>personally. We need Trumpism after Trump. And we're barely getting any Trumpism.

Reminds me of Reagan, being succeeded by Bush.

I see Trump as having done a lot more done than a standard Republican President.

All I thought when I voted for Trump, is he is better than Hillary. I did not have high expectations for him at all. He has dramatically exceeded my expectations, and exposed so much of corruption in DC, and bias in the press.

Geesh! I did not realize how upset I am with standard Republicans until I was working on this comment. Wow.

I am so disillusioned with regular Republican Office Holders. Comey I believe was a Republican. John McCain was. Lindsay Graham with someday we need to investigate shtick. Gowdy with the cover up of Bengazi. Ryan not investigating the Aswan Brothers. The slap on the wrist of Wolfe (Senate Intel Committee, Fisa warrant to his NY Times paramour). Plus Kissinger with his writing of an article about CoronaVirus, and no mention of China. It's amazing the depth of corruption. Romney with his attacks on Trump. National Review, The Weekly Standard, the so called True Republicans that work for the MSM, such as Jennifer Ruben, Steve Schmidt, Nicole Wallace, etc.

> Getting what any standard Republican president would have gotten is not all that
> impressive.

Nichevo said...


Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
All this Obama hate seems irrelevant to the topic of the post, Trump's psychic meltdown.
5/4/20, 8:04 AM

That's not the topic, the topic is Joe Scarborough's murder of his intern and the President's toying with him, threatening to reveal the evidence which I guess was stashed in the files of the FBI. But you already knew that.

narciso said...

its a very distressing matter, it was similar with Roosevelt, whose successor taft left something to be desired, on a different plane, one might say the same with Coolidge, had hoover not ended up the nominee, the eventual downturn might not have led into the Great depression,

Drago said...

Birkel: "ARM believes the EU is not already wrecked?
The PIIGS disagree, of course.
And millions of immigrants will suck the life blood out of the dying corpse.

Have you been frozen in amber?"

ARM only believes what he reads in the Beijing Daily People's Bulletin.

Anonymous said...

J Farmer: I take it by your answer that you are fine with Iran doing any and all of the actions I described, just as long as the US recedes into a form of isolationism. Or perhaps, if not total isolationism, you just want the US to abandon the Middle East to China and Russia, dropping in some humanitarian aid, preferably managed multilaterally by that paragon of integrity and efficiency, the UN, every now and then to help with the resulting mass murder. Much harder is to describe concrete policy actions - other than abandonment.

J. Farmer said...

@SlickWillie Clinton:

J Farmer: I take it by your answer that you are fine with Iran doing any and all of the actions I described, just as long as the US recedes into a form of isolationism. Or perhaps, if not total isolationism, you just want the US to abandon the Middle East to China and Russia,...

It is a false choice to say that the options are the status quo or "a form of isolationism...if not total isolationism." For one, such a heavy-handed American presence in the region is a relatively new phenomenon. We do not need US troops stationed throughout the Middle East. A naval presence and basing is sufficient. None of the regional powers are likely to gain a dominant position in the near term and effectively balance each others' expansion. Russia had an interest in maintaining its longstanding relationship with Syria primarily because of its naval facility in Tartus. Pursuing regime change has been a counterproductive failure. Renouncing such a policy is the final step in moving the US towards a more realistic posture in the region. We don't have to like the government in Tehran to work with them.

Josephbleau said...

Trump could split an infinitive in the middle of 5th Avenue, and he would still be re-elected.

Josephbleau said...

I bet the Iranian mullahs go to bed each night saying "Who do I have to blow to get the same deal Little Rocket Man got?" Iran needs to wait for another 30 years.

Joy said...

This is trump talking on joe - i used to tune in to their show until they found bashing trump was the only talent they had.

narayanan said...

Blogger Michael K said...
I still don't know the real story with Obama. Where did he come from ? Who steered him from Occidental to Columbia to HLS ?

He really is an enigma.
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Codevilla wrote that Obama is CIA groomed from birth

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Crazy World said...

Bring it on Donny two scoops. That lemon don is wacky.

DeepRunner said...

Don't worry about Trump's tweets, Professor. It's not like you're gonna vote for him.

Gotta say, Trump knows how to say Foxtrot Uniform in the most direct way to someone who views him with the same level of disdain.

DeepRunner said...

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
Stress brings out the worst in some people. I hope Trump finds peace after Tuesday, November 3.


Mmmmm...When he gets re-elected, ARM, you headed out o' country?

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