Well said! Please run for office. The politicians & unelected bureaucrats who stole our liberty should be tarred, feathered & thrown out of town!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 15, 2020
What does it mean that Elon Musk is in a particular position? Does it make it cool? Does it make it nerdy? Does it make it cool-nerdy and nerdy is cool?
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There are more than a few secular mumblefucks that have declared evangelicals particularly stupid for trying to go to church. Setting aside that churches are evidently more responsible than public transit bureaucrats, it takes extreme gullibility to buy the "rural idiocy" scam from the elite NY press.
He wants to build cars and sell them. Most of his buyers have been in blue states and are named Karen, so he has work to do.
Elon is spot on. We can deal with the truth. It is the changing confusion Caused by made up science narratives spun out by Depopulation apparatchiks that want the chaos that empowers them that we have to confront. Musk just confronted them. Go and do likewise.
Portnoy's complaint is what many, many people are either thinking or saying. Musk is sticking his neck out by stating what he feels only because it goes against the approved narrative. Apparently approved of by Dr. David Fauci, Dr. Chuck Todd, and Dr. Dean Baquet.
Because Science. Which seems to keep changing rapidly.
Musk might indeed be a flake, but at least he makes products to sell to us, not like Zuckerberg and Dooley et all, who sell us to others.
And someone who uses the word "liberty" without irony or post-modern baggage is always with a nod.
I am Laslo.
There's obvious self-interest on Musk's part. That being said, so what, he is still right.
What I think:
1. The lockdowns slow the spread of disease.
2. The lockdowns cannot last forever, because we'll go broke
3. As soon as we lift the lockdowns, the disease will spread
This leads to 4. The lockdowns made us broke, and we'll get sick anyway.
We bought some time with the lockdowns, but I'm not sure the time was well spent. I don't see how anyone rational can advocate for continuing to cripple the economy and put millions into long term unemployment until next spring. That's crazy. So, the question becomes, when do we go back to work? Sooner or later? People get sick either way, so it's only a matter of how much we want to pay.
Another poll where none of the above was a closer fit. I chose Nerdy, but he really represents a challenge to the nerds that believe in Science!, that is the nerds whose only scientific background is watching Discovery Channel and Big Bang Theory. The people who think Greta is an expert on Climate Change. Musk understands science. He's more engineer than scientist, but he's both far more than the Believe the Science! crowd. You don't believe science, you challenge it. You believe religion.
A pair of posters here excoriated me when I quoted the govt that all the mitigation was not to save lives but protect the heath care system.
Here we are.
Hospitals going bankrupt, and no lives saved.
"may I have another sir"?
Looking at your poll it seems to break down Yay Musk 65% to Nay Musk 35%. So far.
I guess it’s the last one. It’s much harder to dismiss Elon Musk as a MAGA retard who wants people to die for a haircut.
He sounds like a normal person to me. As opposed to those who believe social conditioning is a good thing.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ivankatrump/status/1262095075963736064
I feel like if you're watching a lot of "opinion leaders" and the like, you can watch some real time "mugging by reality." I think that if Musk had gotten the usual special consideration that government leaders gave him, as opposed to California trying to keep him from opening his plant, he'd probably never have been this vocal. Still, tarred and feathered is a bit much. Let's try voting the bums out first.
I don’t care what is and isn’t cool. What does that matter?
Musk is simply right.
What happened is we got stampeded by a media fabricated clickbait hysteria. You (we all) have been had. The clickbait hysteria was amplified by the Get Trump left into deliberate economy sabotage.
We’re like drunks or dope fiends now, waking up from a binge. The answer is not to take another hit.
It was a mass delusion. The new normal I want to see is people refusing to take the bait on media fabricated clickbait panics. Stop being suckered.
There is an awakening happening in this country. I've talked with significant numbers of people who have had no interest in politics all of a sudden being very interested. Democrats who were democrats because "they were the good guys".
And now they realize that its more about control. They don't like the "new normal".
This has to show up in polling, but I'm in a red state so maybe it's just localized.
When he ran down the street to meet the demonstrators, he excused himself, saying "I am an opinion leader, therefore I must follow them" ...
Fine words from Muskrat, but before I make up my mind about this I'm going to wait until Sheldon Cooper, Screech and Urkel weigh in.
The parallels between EU philosophy and lockdown fanaticism are striking.
Elon's drowning in a lack of cash flow and desperately needs to get his car and battery factories churning out widgets. He has been forced to sell a lot of property just to be able to make his vig.
that said he's not wrong factories like his and 99% of all retail outlets should be open as long as they have appropriate health and safety plans for none of my checking account reducing at preventing reinfections.
of course none of your people want to have any protections or health and safety or mitigations you just want to go to the bar restaurant and gym and get drunk stuffed and pumped with your friends and pretend like it's 1999 again.
Choose the purple pill
I going to propose a new way of looking at the world that I'm trying to assume.
The media everywhere, globally, is comprised of hustlers trying to con you into clicking on their articles with wild claims, declarations of impending doom and attempts to invoke panic.
The individual members are doing this to advance their ambitions and to make money. They're trying to drive you nuts, trying to stimulate your desperate need for another dopamine fix.
Assume they are lying drama queens and that every political melodrama that they cook up is bullshit. Stop taking the bait.
That's the lesson of this episode of mass delusion and panic.
unelected bureaucrats
Add one more: It's evidence of a preference cascade building.
SpaceX is in a way the cathedral institution of the physical engineering world.
Its what NASA was in the 1960's-70's, and has never been again.
It is the holy of holies.
And Musk is its owner and founder.
The somewhat dingy Hawthorne facility (an ex-McDonnell Douglas plant) is its Chartres, or St. Peters. SpaceX is the undisputed current owner of that mystical vision of men walking on an alien planet, the conquest of the wild blue, and the wild black. Its where a literal minded man can dream of slipping the surly bonds of earth,
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.
Or, perhaps, more despairingly, swamped by waves of prosaic mud-brained idiots,
Take me out to the black,
Tell them I ain't comin back.
Burn the land and boil the sea,
You can't take the sky from me.
Its not often that the essential mystical-poetic nature of the engineer is revealed in popular culture, but there are rare cases. One was "Apollo 13" , with its "steely eyed missile men"; another was "October Sky".
What is inside is rarely revealed on the outside. Most normal people would not understand.
It’s clever marketing, selling Teslas to Republicans.
Can't handle the truth? Take Purple Pils™.
I checked Musk's tweeter feedings, he had a cartoon of philosophers talking about time with Marx saying that time was invented by clock makers to sell more clocks.
BREAKING NEWS: Joe Biden announces the woman who will be his running mate.
"A true woman leader with a proven track record for our moment in history," Biden said: "Goldilocks!"
Musk is a wild man, a "Crazy Eddie", out of "The Mote in Gods Eye"
Wild men can be - wild. They can fill tabloids with their antics, say crazy things, start fights for no good reason. But ...
Prosaic people do not understand wild men.
But there are those who understand that they are seeing a "Crazy Eddie", and if they have a soul they will die to follow him. Even if he is an asshole.
One day perhaps, or probably, some person from Porlock, or more like a horde of such, will cripple and smother SpaceX, as they did NASA.
Then I hope some new Crazy Eddie will show up again.
Time was invented by women with a fundamental unit of a little over 28 days. Then men stole the concept of time from women and used it to establish low minimum wages.
All regulations, restrictions and procedures represent a hidden tax on all economic activity. Any "protections" that would realistically be required to have a significant effect are a smothering blanket of death - death one way, or death another, maybe.
You have a choice, if you are lucky, of ways to die - glorious living of your lives, or cowering in your holes.
The SpaceX Hawthorne plant is interesting. It has an effect on people that other people simply can't understand. It is I think that its beauty exists entirely in suggested fantasies of cosmic glories.
Chartres has an entirely physical glory to somewhat substitute for that inability of the atheist to see the vision of the other world. SpaceX Hawthorne is more like the haiku of suggestion against Chartres' epic poetry.
"Crazy Eddie" always ends badly, and sometimes brings on a general disaster.
But there is no way ahead but for "Crazy Eddie".
The San Francisco NPR affiliate, KQED had a talk show about Elon and the threat to move out of California. It was depressing to listen to. The callers were very upset with Elon. "I bought a Telsa to do good . . . Now where am I?". "Have fun in Texas. - Texans won't buy Teslas".
From the Babylon Bee:
Reminder: Adolf Hitler Also Wanted To Go Outside And Do Things
Sweden, not Switzerland
Why would Musk be Crazy Eddie when he could be The Wiz?
Nobody Beats The Wiz.
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When this is over, we will need a Museum of Retail History to preserve the memory of all the companies that will follow Eddie and The Wiz into foreclosure.
Left Bank of the Charles said... It’s clever marketing, selling Teslas to Republicans.
Smart conservatives (not necessarily Republicans) are waiting for hydrogen fuel cell cars. Then all the tax breaks in the world will not save the master marketer Elon Musk.
Over the past couple of weeks I've noted a sea change in reporting.
It's no longer GRANNIE WILL DIE!
Rather it is we must do this carefully.
I strongly suspect the politicians see the crowd streaming away from confinement and they are struggling to remain leaders.
And this from the people who said don't where masks, then no, you should wear masks. And who also said, there is nothing to worry about... it is just the flu. What fuck has happened to us?
his opinion doesn't really matter to me, even though I agree with him, and I have a serious bromance with him. (if I was a woman I would want to bear his babies)
However his opinion should definitely matter to the political leaders of California.
it’s clever marketing, selling Teslas to Republicans.
You do realize that Tesla does no marketing whatsoever, seeing as how they can't build enough cars fast enough to meet demand now.
He [Musk] wants to build cars and sell them. Most of his buyers have been in blue states and are named Karen, so he has work to do.
Musk wants to do that, yes — but what he really wants to do is go to Mars — or rather, make it possible (via his company SpaceX) for as many (thousands if not millions) of people to go to Mars (and ultimately live there) as can be accomplished in the not-too-distant future.
Here's a recent (only a week or so old) 3-part interview: 1 2 3 (total length: about 1-1/2 hr.) by space enthusiast Felix Schlang with space activist Robert Zubrin (president e.g. of the Mars Society) about Elon Musk and the impact of what Zubrin terms Musk's “passion”, “resolution”, and the “mental toughness to stick to it in the face of adversity” — distinguishing Musk from any number of other, more “dilettante zillionaires” who might momentarily interest themselves in space — only to get bored and drift away the minute there's a hitch or delay. Zubrin even terms Bezos as a version of this mentality. Musk contrariwise “stuck to it” over many years at SpaceX during the early 2000's — through three successive, expensive failures of the prototype Falcon 1 — until there finally was success on the fourth attempt.
By now (as just one example of his and its success), in the last half-dozen years Musk's SpaceX has basically destroyed the hitherto-dominant Russian commercial space launch business — which as recently as 2013 possessed over half of the world's commercial launch business — but by 2018 that Russian share had been reduced to 10% and today even less. (This part just breaks me up!)
buwaya said,
"SpaceX is in a way the cathedral institution of the physical engineering world.
Its what NASA was in the 1960's-70's, and has never been again.
It is the holy of holies."
I think that's basically true. It sounds exaggerated, but if we were to look at engineers and aspiring engineers as a whole then they are very excited about SpaceX.
Of course I'm not sure just how many people we are talking about.
As for what impact Elon Musk expressing this opinion has on people in general I just don't know. The only person I know for sure about is myself and since I already had this opinion, clearly I'm not likely to see an effect on myself.
But if I were to guess I would guess this mainly has an impact on people that were already moving in this direction but hadn't quite got there.
there was another heinleinesque figure, Daniel Hamilton Randolph in ben bovas privateers, written in 1986, he is a space entrepreneur who launches missions from Venezuela, when the us basically left that frontier to the soviets, as the title suggests, he becomes a pirate commandeering the ore shipments,
Levi Starks said...
Sweden, not Switzerland
"I love your Army Knives... with the toothpicks...
[Never been] but I have a friend who drives a Volvo."
None of the above. I would choose an option that says: He gives it legitimacy.
Now I will read comments.
None of the above come close to the way I felt when I saw that originally
I did get frustrated when Newsom said (in his Coronavirus update) that Musk’s problems weren’t with California but with Alameda County because it’s the county’s decision. Ok. We will all ignore the fact that Newsom threatens to punish counties that take a loose approach to the lock down.
Which brings up the fact that Newsom tapes his Coronavirus updates. As irritating as Cuomo is, he was willing to sit and take live questions from the (friendly) press. Newsom has questions submitted that he reads... I’m sure he is completely even handed in his choice of questions. It is fnot his fault there is no follow-up or highlighting of inconsistencies.
I am concerned that the city, county, and state do not seem concerned about impinging on our liberty. It’s one thing in the face of an immediate threat (fire) or while they are preparing (staffing hospitals). But we are beyond that and restrictions aren’t easing. After changing the goal and doing a 180 on the necessity of masks, they are slow walking our release from house arrest. I believe that if they don’t get off the stick and open things up (with distancing and masks) people will do it on their own without distancing and masks.
"Have fun in Texas. - Texans won't buy Teslas".
Texans do, but when they do, they buy them for the performance as a car. Texans don't see the Tesla as saving the environment. They see it as a vehicle that can deliver 100% torque near instantaneously. When Texans don't buy Teslas, it is because they are expensive, and they are expensive because they take a lot of resources to build. We know obtaining those resources is an ugly, polluting activity, which isn't necessarily cleaner than pumping oil.
Sometimes he can be such a cantaloupe. Other times he's a pineapple. Today he is a peach.
I don't think any of those options really work for me. What is most influential in this case is that I would view Musk's position as a statement against interest, with "interest" defined as Musk's position of godhood among the high-income political Left. You see this in the absolutely viscious backlash he has received from those very people, almost all of whom don't, at the moment, depend on going back to work in public- exactly the people who buy his cars.
"Have fun in Texas. - Texans won't buy Teslas".
Plenty of Texans will, if Musk finds the right salesman.
I hear Beto isn't very busy now.
Ann shows her contempt of freedom with those stupid poll questions.
Left Bank of the Charles: "It’s clever marketing, selling Teslas to Republicans."
Hard to imagine how it is you always manage to get so much wrong in so few words.
Its a gift really.
"Have fun in Texas. - Texans won't buy Teslas". They already do. The HEB parking lots in Austin are full of them. Walmart even has a charging station for them, but I haven't seen many there yet.
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