"The scientist whose advice prompted Boris Johnson to lock down Britain resigned from his Government advisory position on Tuesday night as The Telegraph can reveal he broke social distancing rules to meet his married lover. Professor Neil Ferguson allowed the woman to visit him at home during the lockdown while lecturing the public on the need for strict social distancing in order to reduce the spread of coronavirus. The woman lives with her husband and their children in another house."
The Telegraph reveals.
It's not the adultery. It's the hypocrisy.
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92 comments:
The hypocrisy lost him his job. The adultery lost him his reputation.
The Guardian had a similar story. So the Daily Torygraph and the lefty rag both are on this story.
But you know a fellow can die of certain kinds of fever. He had the fever. His mistress had the cure.
It’s the arrogance. Rules are for you people. Fucking deplorables!
Takes a heart of stone not to laugh
His 2 million deaths in US alone model should've lost him his job.
Any reason to believe he is any more honest in his work than in the rest of his life?
As a commenter elsewhere put it, he didn’t do this because he believes the rules don’t apply to him. He did this because he knows the rules are bullshit.
In his defense, he does claim that he already had the virus and recovered. If true, than social distancing for him would merely be virtue signaling.
What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to ejaculate.
She is also a hard left activist, which sort of goes with the "open marriage" stuff.
Bill DeBlasio goes to the gym.
Lori Lightfoot gets her hair cut.
Chris Cuomo visits his vacant lot.
Neil Ferguson has his mistress.
But I'm supposed to shelter in place until angel wings sprout from my ass...er...until there is a vaccine.
Okay, Boomer
See, they know so much that they can do these things safely. The rest of us, we need very strict limits.
Of course it’s only the hypocrisy that made him resign, as that is relevant to his position, and the adultery is not. And I think Gahrie is wrong: in most circles his adultery is a peccadillo. To me though it’s the greater sin.
We're all suffering from a plague, a plague of "experts".
I think that anybody who professes to be an expert and is making some sort of prediction should have their record fully exposed. How often were their predictions correct in the past? How often were they incorrect? Prove that you've been at least somewhat accurate in the past before you make some sort of prediction that will effect public policy.
He developed a model that showed the odds of his being caught were zero.
Hypocrisy is the new heresy.
Of with his head!
Did you see the photos from NYC showing the people crowding into the parks? Why the hell does Florida catch hell for having opened her miles and miles of beaches while New Yorkers cram themselves into tiny city parks.
We need to quarantine these anti-science packed rats and let the rest of the country get back to life.
https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/photos-new-yorkers-crowded-christopher-street-pier-weekend-pandemic-be-damned
"It's not the adultery. It's the hypocrisy."
Yep. That defines the left. "Do as I say, not as I do."
It's not the adultery. It's the hypocrisy.
What about the hypocrisy of adultery?
Entire nations are supposed to trust people who can't maintain vows to thier own family members?
...he broke social distancing rules to meet his married lover.
Not only that, hadn't he already tested positive?
"Any reason to believe he is any more honest in his work than in the rest of his life?"
Wrong in one, wrong in many.
The left = always wrong but never in doubt.
There’s an opening for them at the FBI.
This pandemic is descending into a sex farce.
"It's not the adultery. It's the hypocrisy."
Interesting that panicking the public and the government into a ruinous policy with outrageously wrong bad-faith "projections" wouldn't be sufficient cause. And Ferguson is a repeat offender. But no, hypocrisy is so much worse.
"It's not the adultery."
To some of us, it still is. Deplorable, I know. No Playboy on the coffee table.
"It's the hypocrisy."
Well, in that case all progs should resign from everything. Perhaps there's a glimmer of a standard left in the UK.
But he didn't quit his actual job, did he? In fact, did anyone in the bad-faith pro-panic faction lose any job?
I wonder why they label him "Professor" Neil Ferguson. I'm sure he is a Professor somewhere -- but how is that relevant to his Government work?
I do not accept the dynamic here. The point of social distancing is to reduce the number of contacts between unknowing infected persons and potential infectees, not to eliminate human contact. How has this morphed into a world where the advocates of a public health intervention are supposed to display an insane zealousness that has no more utility than wearing sack cloth?
"It's not the adultery. It's the hypocrisy." --AA
Ann expresses left-wing moral relativism in a perfect nutshell.
It's not the behavior, no, heavens no! It's that the adultery wasn't being committed with perfect purity in all moral aspects. They didn't "distance."
This is like left-wing foreign policy. War is only good if it brings us no benefits whatsoever. It has to be "pure" death for some purely bad guys. If it accomplishes any other interests for us, it is selfish and wrong.
The real tragedy is that tens of thousands of UK businesses are going bankrupt and millions of people will lose their jobs over a narrative that we now know is false.
The real tragedy is that the UK public fears the coronavirus so much that they support the lockdown.
This is the power of the media: to maintain a lie that is contradicted by the facts and call that lie "science."
On pictures showing crowding, I am suspicious...
Lots of gaming seems to be going on:
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2020-04-26-hvor-taet-er-folk-paa-hinanden-disse-billeder-er-taget-samtidig-men-viser-to
Another voice of authority reveals his real message to be “Do as we command, not as we do!”
She's the one that's married. Some people don't even consider it adultery for the person who isn't married to have sex with someone who is married. And they may very well reject the idea that there is any moral or ethical quandary for the unmarried person. Their married partner is a separate person, entitled to an individual perspective on her own way of living, and she (or he) has made a choice and that choice is accorded full respect.
"It's not the adultery. It's the hypocrisy."
Please send the message to Democrats.
Nice to know that Ken B, who dropped the COVIDIOT tag on anyone who wasn’t in full panic mode based solely on this asshat professor’s work, is more bothered by the sex than the blatant arrogant hypocrisy of this fraud. Thanks for revealing yourself further Kenny! Now fuck off!
Most expensive booty call of the century.
This is the guy, the 'expert' who got the entire world to shut 'er down. I'd say he should be scorned for life. But then I saw a photo of his mistress and I understood. Yep...that'll make you give up your principles.
By Love Possessed
She travels breaking the lockdown in order to break her marriage vows with the architect of the lockdown, returning then to her family and potentially infecting her husband and not mentioning to him the danger she is putting him in. It comes out and then the kids who are not in school know that she disregarded the lockdown. What comes next in these people's lives?
The yahoos that carried signs saying "The End is Near" used to be mocked instead of promoted to public policy gurus.
No face, no race but plenty of power.
The College recommends plenty of vitamin D. He was just helping his friend get some. Several times.
No hypocrisy at all.
Some people don't even consider it adultery for the person who isn't married to have sex with someone who is married.
Some say they don't care if Joe Biden did stick his fingers up Tara Reade.
Oh yes, I see how that works.
“As a commenter elsewhere put it, he didn’t do this because he believes the rules don’t apply to him. He did this because he knows the rules are bullshit.”
I wonder if all people who have affairs believe rules are BS. If not, why do people cheat on their spouses? I recall a woman who had an affair with an old boyfriend and broke up two marriages, hers and her lover’s.
Brilliant. Now Great Britain loses the advice of one of its leading health experts during its health crisis of a lifetime. Great sense of priorities.
Some people don't even consider it adultery for the person who isn't married to have sex with someone who is married.
And others consider "You shall not covet your neighbor's wife."
Friendships with "benefits" or polygamy with/without shared responsibility.
I'm guessing he emigrates to America and then runs for Congress as a Democrat. Kweisi Mfume shows that Democrats are all about second acts.
Listening to the wrong head gets man in trouble. Film at 11.
“I'm guessing he emigrates to America and then runs for Congress as a Democrat. Kweisi Mfume shows that Democrats are all about second acts.”
Like Governor Mark Sanford (R), who then went on to become Congressman Mark Sanford.
A commenter on another blog suggested that Ferguson could defend himself, "“we met, but never touched. Strict 6 feet apart. Never even saw her face. Believe me.”
And his friends could back him up, "Neil Ferguson is Neil Ferguson. I believe him."
I have it on good authority she lived across town, she wasn't the neighbors wife, so it's all good
"You shall not covet your neighbor's wife."
Actually, it's "you shall not COVID your neighbors wife." Unless she's 19. And you have the fever. And no taste.
Boners for me but not for thee....
Toby Young of _The Spectator_, and the man behind lockdownsceptic.org, notes that Ferguson has a history of being a chicken little when it comes to pandemics and potential pandemics.
Professor Neil Ferguson - is that the same Ferguson that wrote a WW 1 history?
The chick’s bringin' the whole nine yards (second from left).
"Some people don't even consider it adultery for the person who isn't married to have sex with someone who is married."
in the 19th century, It was common for men to be shot for adultery, and the killer got off because he was "defending his marriage". I believe Gen. Sickles was one, and Confederate Gen. Van Dorn was killed by a Husband when he "trifled" with his wife.
is that the same Ferguson that wrote a WW 1 history?
No. You’re thinking of Niall Ferguson.
People were much more excitable back in the old days. Today, its just "meh, I'll just divorce her".
Thanks. Lots of Neil/Niall Ferguson's walking around.
Move on? So, basically, a cover-up. He advised people to stay off the streets, in order to have privacy without bedroom walls, and reduce the social distance between him and his friend with "benefits". I wonder if this is why Planned Parenthood et al were certified to provide an essential service. Keep women barefoot, available, and taxable.
He had the fever. His mistress had the cure.
Dude should have just been satisfied with "more cowbell."
I thought it was Niall Ferguson too when I first heard the story. He's been on TV a lot, so one could vividly imagine the scenario happening, and wonder what his wife thought of his doings. It's not as interesting when it's somebody you never heard of before.
The mistress/girlfriend/whatever was also a global activist, so this story is a blow to the worldwide alarmist community. People are going to think they aren't really serious about all the chicken little stuff.
Gahrie,
What, he had a reputation?
Brits are .... ohhhhh what is the exact adjective? Fill in the blank.
I recall reading a story years ago about a couple in London who got a little overly passionate on the train and had intercourse. No one complained about that, but what was offensive enough to merit a report by their fellow travelers were the smokes the couple indulged in afterward.
Temujin,
You understood what? Yes, the babe is good-looking, definitely above average, but burn-your-world-down-to-get-it hot? Sheesh, you need to get out more.
Ms Staats, 38, is a left-wing campaigner who works for US-based online network Avaaz
and
Soros-linked political pressure group Avaaz joins forces with MSM to purge climate skeptics from YouTube
Fun fact, Niall Ferguson the historian is married to Ayann Hirsi Ali.
1984 is a how to manual for them:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/youtube-deletes-video-plandemic-dr-mikovits-accusing-dr-fauci-corruption-suppression-not-approved-thought-police/
oh skip that then:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/05/06/did-we-forget-this-detail-about-the-democrats-star-witness-for-todays-coronavirus-response-hearing-n2568281
The husband's grandfather was an RAF ace in WWII and here he is married to a German woman who is openly having sex with some incompetent science dweeb.
Those of you who are dying to use the "cuck" or "slut" words might want to take this opportunity. You don't know when the next time you can get away with it will come.
It's not the adultery or the hypocrisy, it's that he never got around to building a "bubble boy" room in his house.
"Love Story for the Ages" LOL - how about Scientist sayinh, 'I'm stressed because of my perfect(crappy) models, I'll call by girlfriend and get a little 'nooky', never mind my wife.
This Dr. Neil Ferguson is the biggest fucking disgrace of the past 50 years.
That 2.2 Million US death projection that asshole made was wrong at the time, just as it is wrong now. Check out the actual paper:
We assumed an incubation period of 5.1 days. Infectiousness is assumed to occur from 12 hours prior to the onset of symptoms for those that are symptomatic and from 4.6 days after infection in those that are asymptomatic with an infectiousness profile over time that results in a 6.5-day mean generation time. Based on fits to the early growth-rate of the epidemic in Wuhan we make a baseline assumption that R0=2.4 but examine values between 2.0 and 2.6. We assume that symptomatic individuals are 50% more infectious than asymptomatic individuals. Individual infectiousness is assumed to be variable described by a gamma distribution with mean 1 and shape parameter =0.25. On recovery from infection, individuals are assumed to be immune to re-infection in the short term. Evidence from the Flu Watch cohort study suggests that re-infection with the same strain of seasonal circulating coronavirus is highly unlikely in the same or following season
Infection was assumed to be seeded in each country at an exponentially growing rate (with a doubling time of 5 days) from early January 2020, with the rate of seeding being calibrated to give local epidemics which reproduced the observed cumulative number of deaths in GB or the US seen by 14th March 2020.
Assumption in, garbage out.
Even thous his scientific "model" was rendered moot by the IMHE in 10 days, it scared Presidents, Prime Ministers and Governors to lock us all down. And in the process, it knocked the world off its axis......
Fuck that guy.
It's not the adultery. It's the hypocrisy.
Once a society rejects the idea of morality, hypocrisy is the only sin.
they bring big pillow to hide stories,
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/facebook-names-first-members-of-oversight-board-for-content-moderation.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cbs-says-fake-news-wasnt-theirs-11588789238
In the hierarchy of sins, denying the Holy Ghost is number 1, murder is number 2, and adultery is number 3. For most people, denying the Holy Ghost is not possible; so adultery is the number 2 worst possible sin.
And lest the good professor. forget, fornication, i.e. sex outside of marriage, is also a pretty serious sin. At least, until man declared it to be "a-ok!" and started mocking the priests who insisted that God has not changed His mind.
Oddly, I agree with Inga in this thread--adultery can ruin lives and marriages and usually does.
"Meh, I'll divorce her!" Yeah, that's not a good idea... I happen to love my wife and don't want to just say goodbye and move on to a new girl. It might be justified, but far better to not commit adultery (on either side!) and stay married.
It's not the affair - that's par for the course. Nor the hypocrisy - ditto.
It's the confirmation that his mistress is a far left harpy, making it about 100-1 on that Ferguson is a far left nut job too. With far left nut job views on the proper role of government in society. And in the economy.
And it is he to whom that Boris has consigned the fate of his country and government.
Which makes Boris how smart, exactly ?
the consequences of that decision
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/05/public-unaware-horrible-economic-damage-waiting-around-corner/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr
Embrace the healing power of and.
It's not the adultery. It's the hypocrisy.
Absolutely wrong.
The globalists don't mind hypocrisy at all. The last 20 years have been democrats and their foreign allies accusing their political opponents of exactly what they have been doing for decades. The best example is the Clinton junta after taking millions of dollars from Russia accusing Trump of being a Russian agent.
No, his actions clearly showed he did not believe COVID-19 was dangerous and that there was no actual emergency.
He knew the crap he was pedaling was crap.
He directly undermined their power grab.
That is unforgivable.
Some of you stupid sheep might actually start noticing.
Sickles was actually found not guilty by reason of insanity. (He fatally shot Francis Scott Key's son.) Earl "Buck" Van Dorn was indeed murdered by a certain Dr. Peters - whose wife, Jesse, apparently had a thing for Confederate generals.
Since he peddled Panic Porn, the two should explore the market together.
She's so good she makes him bad...
Might go viral.
Thanks for the link, Lewis, so I totally agree with this:
The mistakes these liberal policy-makers have made are depressingly familiar to anyone who’s studied the breed: overestimating the ability of the state to solve complicated problems as well as the capacity of state-run agencies to deliver on those solutions; failing to anticipate the unintended consequences of large-scale state interventions; thinking about public policy in terms of moral absolutes rather than trade-offs; chronic fiscal incontinence, with zero inhibitions about adding to the national debt; not trusting in the common sense of ordinary people and believing the only way to get them to avoid risky behaviour is to put strict rules in place and threaten them with fines or imprisonment if they disobey them (and ignoring those rules themselves, obviously); arrogantly assuming that anyone who challenges their policy preferences is either ignorant or evil; never venturing outside their metropolitan echo chambers, being citizens of anywhere rather than somewhere… you know the rest. We’ve seen it a hundred times before.
I barely care about Ferguson's hyprocricy and even less about his sex life, but his malignant stupidity -- yes that I damn!
In an echo of climate science ethics, Imperial College is refusing to release the code for the program which predicted such dire (and false) consequences for the UK in this epidemic.
See Code review of Ferguson's Model
Lee Moore,
What makes Boris, if not smart exactly, but rather the smart choice, is that he's not remotely as bad as Corbyn.
Which admittedly doesn't make him stand out over millions of other Britons, but among the more restricted set of "politicians who might make it as PM" it does.
A lot of men, most men?, are slaves to beauty.
AKA prisoners of sex.
She has a pretty face, this woman, and she said this, earlier:
---During the interview, she said "I think it's also a strain on – maybe strained has sounded too negative – but it's an interesting relationship challenge, for [her husband] and my relationship." ---
Oh, no. One of those interesting challenges! Don't you hate those?
But why is it? Because he's afraid she'll be bringing back the corOna from one of her lovers?
Their open marriage, soon to be just another closed one, as in D-I-V-, except neither one of them can afford the house alone, I'd bet. Fun times at the OK Corral.
Hypocrisy is the axle Grease of human social intercourse. it's a virus that everyone has and then passes it along to everyone else infecting them but each individual claims to be free of symptoms.
It's been awhile since Catholic school, but wasn't Pride the first of all the sins.
Originally, adultery was called that because it adulterated the husbands family line. He couldn't be sure his wife's children were his own. Both man and woman were considered guilty of adultery in those times. They both might be punished severely. A husband, OTOH, fooling around with an unmarried woman, was only guilty of fornication, and punished lightly if at all. Especially if the woman was of a lower social class.
“Ms Staats works as a senior campaigner for the group.”
We know how she gets men to vote her way.
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