Very few masks. No noticeable effort at distancing. Peaceful crowd with a simple message: We love freedom and businesses need to be open.
Flags I saw: American, Gadsden, Trump, and pirate.
April 24, 2020
We drove up to the Wisconsin Capitol to see the anti-shutdown rally...
... and from the completely closed car, I was able to get some photographs.
Very few masks. No noticeable effort at distancing. Peaceful crowd with a simple message: We love freedom and businesses need to be open.
Flags I saw: American, Gadsden, Trump, and pirate.
Very few masks. No noticeable effort at distancing. Peaceful crowd with a simple message: We love freedom and businesses need to be open.
Flags I saw: American, Gadsden, Trump, and pirate.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 331 of 331"Inga said...
There were quite a few bearded beer bellied older protestors there. Prime candidates for the ICU and a brand spanking newly bleached ventilator in about two weeks."
Those old leftists have to have something to protest.
"Very nice to hear the shout-outs (I believe that is the expression) to the great H.L. Mencken, above. Another apothegm of his is quite appropriate for the present moment:
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
Ponder carefully, Grasshopper Althouse Cohen."
Mencken was a cunt's cunt. He hates you. You quote him. He loves he gets to hate you more fore quoting his atheism, you low-grade moron.
Lots of progs want you to abuse yourself, you never lack of Mencken's today. Rose-colored glasses.
"We are, apparently, looking at a .1 to .2 mortality rate for this virus."
And of course, that is among a much older, sicker demographic than ordinary flu, which killed hundreds of kids in 2017-8.
So, adjusting for actual life-years lost, WuFlu will be even milder than the official CFR.
Rabel, her girl hot rod was ready to launch. So I launched it.
Interesting. To date not a single lefty (I include Ken B in that) has called for shutting NYC subways down, or shutting down Central Park, or criticizing Cuomo for establishing a policy that mandated moving ChiCom flu infected patients back into Nursing Homes.
Can any of the leftists (I include Ken B in that) explain their (all too expected) silence on that?
4/24/20, 4:08 PM
The explanation is it has worked. Has what you've done worked?
No Wisconsin flags? Sad!
Narr
Jumped ahead, sorry if I'm late
I wonder how many of these freedom fighters will develop COVID-19?
Whatever the number may be - if any - I'm pretty sure it won't be enough. Right?
From a very brilliant lawyer friend of mine, whose parent fled persecution in China during the Mao years:
"Arbitrary and capricious executive orders by our many incipient tinpot dictators can be ignored. If anyone tries to prosecute you for violating any such 'orders,' just stand up and defend yourself against the overreach. You’ll win."
To the kid here, choices shouldn't involve people dying.
Can you imagine the hamster wheel in that head as a pro-choice Democratic?
Murderers convicted shouldn't die, of course, and also any womb ought be a legally sanctified death chamber if society convinces itself a living human with a heartbeat is just a clump of nothing.
Alternate universe: CA Governor Newsom, displaying an obvious pink eye, makes a major announcement today. No, there is no plan for lifting stay at home orders or plans to reopen the economy. Instead he's building a huge bureaucracy to provide meals for special qualifying seniors. Restaurants will prepare and deliver three healthy meals a day to hundreds of thousands of vulnerable seniors, budgeted at $16/breakfast, $17/lunch/$28dinner. Mindboggling. Don't worry, FEMA will cover it. I can't even imagine the boondoggle of local governments picking restaurants and designing low sodium menus. He's also partnering with United Airlines call center employees to have a call in support line, offering wellness check-ins and emotional support.
He's obviously not planning on opening the state anytime. It will take months to get this set up and running. Oh god!
Meanwhile we're at low death rates but the case number of positives continues to rise.
Uh oh. I must be off my game. The real Guild would have always thrown in the extra(?) 'is' in the quote:
The explanation is it has worked.
" Yes, if you're going to be in a crowd and yelling, you should wear a mask and stay away from the others."
But we were all told by scientific experts that masks would not help. This is why I dislike the "believe science dumbshit crowd." Much public science is motivated science, like many polls are push polls, in some eyes we are rubes to be shucked.
You don't have to be super smart to know that if you wear a mask and hock up a green one full of crono death it won't get as far as it would without the mask. Droplets full of virus are not the same diameter as the virus.
Original Mike said, "In many places, it isn't permitted to drive at all unless it is to conduct a necessary activity."
I am not at all sure that Althouse and Meade are not breaking the "law".
They were conducting a necessary activity. As more people in Madison are hospitalized, the authorities can check Meadhouse's photos to see if the victims (or perpetrators) took part in the protests.
Because, reasons.
>>Total Deaths 262 Total Deaths outside Milwaukee - 108
Person shouting about "Science" - This will soon be 10,000 dead.
From 262 to 10,000 in a month??
When your hypothesis, in a month or two, fails to match the outcome, will you admit you were totally wrong and realize you must have a very flawed understanding of the real world?
*THAT* would be science.
To keep on keeping track: from Instapundit:
"VENTILATOR BLUES: Nearly all Covid-19 patients put on ventilators in New York’s largest health system died, study finds.
So we were told that there would be desperate shortages of lifesaving ventilators, but there were no such shortages, and the ventilators turn out not to be all that lifesaving, either."
Oh, well.
So, the panicked attempt to flatten the curve by shutting down the economy was even more pointless than we knew it to be. Maximum cost for no gain. None. How much more insane could we possible get?
To Tommy Duncan's post at 6:11PM...
Instead of tracking just 'daily new cases', we really should be looking the ratio of positive-to-total test results on a daily basis to see if that is increasing/flat/decreasing.
"Inga said...
There were quite a few bearded beer bellied older protestors..."
Inga is not afraid to lay it on the line, Virus 2 Conservatives 0!!! and the winna is... Nancy Polosi!!
"I wonder how many of these freedom fighters will develop COVID-19?"
They've all had it already. Back in Jan.-Feb. But they all thought it was just a cold. That's what I predict the testing will eventually show.
The panic among Democrats really can only be explained by the reality that they know this virus is a genetically modified bioweapon.
No, I think the panic is because all the big Democrat donors have their money in China. Half of Bloomberg's fortune is in China.
Nancy and Diane's money is all from China.
I agree it was manipulated but don't know if it is a bioweapon or just a fuckup. Why in the world would we transfer this to China with their record of quality control? The Heparin scandal ought to be enough.
Guild: "The explanation is it has worked. Has what you've done worked?"
First, on the cruise ships and naval vessels where zero distancing tactics were employed, there is no difference in results.
Secondly, I'm headed to Garbanzos to pick up dinner. I guess my hunger is simpky masking mass murder tendencies.
Does that answer your question, or would you like to try again?
Perhaps young Althouse will call in a citizens arrest on me.
No Wisconsin flags? Sad!
Narr
Jumped ahead, sorry if I'm late
It's the Hillary-revenge virus.
Don't stop the money chain.
Tommy,
Even WI DHS admits the slight uptick around the time of the deadly election was due to increased testing.
Illinois has Chicago and 2x WI population and is targeting less testing.
"Both Inga and Howard seem inclined you refer to "you people". A coincidence?"
I like this comment, with strong assumption.
Why in the world would we transfer this to China with their record of quality control?
I’m on the verge of believing Obama really was the Manchuria Candidate.
Hillary was the Russia colluder.
They didn’t really think that they were traitors. They were doing it for our own good. Howard explains it all very well.
One of the few good things about this whole deal is that it presents almost unlimited opportunities for posturing as a brave, freedom-loving, freedom fighter fighting for freedom at no personal cost.
The explanation is it has worked.
Is the explanation is it has worked.
The is explanation is it has worked.
The explanation is is it has worked.
The explanation is it is has worked.
The explanation is it has is worked.
The explanation is it has worked is.
OTHER NEWS
Georgia has over 40 counties with zero deaths. A lefty friend on FB insists none of these counties be opened until there are zero deaths in the entire state for two weeks.
I think he is honestly stating the lefty case.
@Rabel
Which is it, no cost or...
As Inga and other commenters have repeatedly stated, protest is both an act of murder and suicide?
"VENTILATOR BLUES: Nearly all Covid-19 patients put on ventilators in New York’s largest health system died, study finds."
So Ventilator treatment results in 99% death, but the motivated Hydroquinone study said there was only a small increase in death in the treated cohort. The Hydroquinone CDC whistle blower was an idiot, why did he not come out against ventilators, the dumbshit! This is going to be on Fox News tomorrow, you bet!
Pelosi opens investigation into the President because of Dr. Rick Bright's firing, who allegedly spoke Truth to Hydroxychloroquine
Tucker Carlson has named Shampeachment III a Flu D'é·tat.
I am snapping my fingers to keep away polar bears. There are absolutely no polar bears here since I started.
The explanation is it has worked.
The explanation is it has worked.
The explanation is it has worked.
Or, correlation is not causation.
"Guild: "The explanation is it has worked. Has what you've done worked?"
First, on the cruise ships and naval vessels where zero distancing tactics were employed, there is no difference in results.
Secondly, I'm headed to Garbanzos to pick up dinner. I guess my hunger is simpky masking mass murder tendencies.
Does that answer your question, or would you like to try again?
Perhaps young Althouse will call in a citizens arrest on me."
https://cumulus.hillsdale.edu/Buckley/
He has done a lot more than all of us. I learned a mere tiny bit of a bit. Sorry if you don't conclude it's relevance.
It's could be: it has relevance. So "its" relevance would have worked also, possessive of the tiny mere bit of learning, you know.
Since we are under moderation, I will write Inga's answer to my yet uncleared post before anyone has seen it! How mystic! how marvelous! Here is Inga's response:
"We talked about how Hydroquinone was a failure yesterday, because it helped us hate Trump. We have forgotten about this now, we don't want to hear about ventilators."
Mead I love the doctors, nurses and first responders who were not there but will take care of you, and even risk their lives, if and when you become sick.Different perspective I guess.
"The explanation is is it has worked."
That's exactly what I meant to say??
Who is that brilliant wroter?
LOL! Howard and Inga are not the same person. Howard has a sense of humor.
Yes all eyes are on China, including Trump who is in hock big time to the China banks.
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guild: "Is the explanation is it has worked."
Unfortunately, there was no "it" on the cruise ships and the carrier.....and yet the results were quite similar.
So, I guess:
The is explanation is it has worked.
And "it" also, apparently, was not needed for it to work.
Strange.
The simple sign I made and carried on the capitol lawn today said:
1st Amendment rights are pretty cool
Sometimes I wore my mask, sometimes not. I refuse to let fear rule my life.
>>Mead I love the doctors, nurses and first responders who were not there but will take care of you, and even risk their lives, if and when you become sick.Different perspective I guess.
R/V...so in love with his own goodness it almost makes him want to cry.
"1st Amendment rights are pretty cool"
Great sign, bus driver.
Rosalyn C. said... [hush][hide comment]
Alternate universe: CA Governor Newsom, displaying an obvious pink eye, makes a major announcement today. No, there is no plan for lifting stay at home orders or plans to reopen the economy. Instead he's building a huge bureaucracy to provide meals for special qualifying seniors. Restaurants will prepare and deliver three healthy meals a day to hundreds of thousands of vulnerable seniors, budgeted at $16/breakfast, $17/lunch/$28dinner. Mindboggling. Don't worry, FEMA will cover it. I can't even imagine the boondoggle of local governments picking restaurants and designing low sodium menus. He's also partnering with United Airlines call center employees to have a call in support line, offering wellness check-ins and emotional support.
He's obviously not planning on opening the state anytime. It will take months to get this set up and running. Oh god!
Meanwhile we're at low death rates but the case number of positives continues to rise.
........................
Ratio of positive/negatives has been dropping in Santa Clara County. Keep in mind that people being tested are suspected of having the virus, or having been seriously exposed to it.
https://www.sccgov.org/sites/covid19/Pages/dashboard.aspx
gspencer said...
"and from the completely closed [Althouse] car"
You are such a good subject
And not even Canadian!
John Henry
Well, I have just returned from Garbanzos with 4 meals and no less than 47,384 corpses in my wake.
In order to shield myself from prosecution I have changed my Party registration to "Democrat" and I've converted to islam.
Hell, now I might even get a medal!
I'll almost certainly be offered a role in the FBI.
Santa Clara has 0 virus patients on vents. 677 available. Has always had hundreds available. Many less virus patients in ICU or Acute care(172) than people with other serious illness.(1,021) Has always been like that.
"Perhaps young Althouse will call in a citizens arrest on me."
We appear to be in moderation, so perhaps this is not the time to annoy Meade, but --
Is loosing JAC on the commentariat what he meant by "vengeance," now that he and Althouse have been shown to be so wrong?
Anyway, seriously, Meadehouse appear to be backing away from the insanity. If so, better late than never.
"Different perspective I guess."
Nope. Same perspective. American loving the Americans who love America and don't hate Americans.
Whiskeybum said..."Instead of tracking just 'daily new cases', we really should be looking the ratio of positive-to-total test results on a daily basis to see if that is increasing/flat/decreasing"
Answer: decreasing. From 12% positive yesterday, to 9% positive today, with the increase in testing.
Meade said...
"1st Amendment rights are pretty cool"
Great sign, bus driver.
As you noted, it is a Tony Evers quote. I learned that here.
The communist power grab is happening. Now.
I'm watching Alfredo smooching the consumptive Violetta on Met Opera, and Althouse won't even roll down the window to improve her photos. (I wonder if she cleaned them at home).
" I learned that here."
So did I.
"Blogger roesch/voltaire said...
Yes all eyes are on China, including Trump who is in hock big time to the China banks."
I'm counseling you,son. You are going to have to wake up tomorrow morning and read that when you check this blog.
DanTheMan: "R/V...so in love with his own goodness it almost makes him want to cry."
When the story of this episode is captured in the history books, I can only hope that they use a great pic of r/v.
Now on Gomer Pyle: Gomer and the Sarge partner in a wilderness survival test.
Robert Cook said... I wonder how many of these freedom fighters will develop COVID-19
Far less than you are hoping, Cookie.
But then, freedom fighters are never popular among the totalitarians. Well, unless their name is Che.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/pa-removes-200-deaths-official-coronavirus-count-questions-mount-reporting-process-data-accuracy.amp
@Dr. K
perhaps it was stolen. They steal everything else.
What do you make of this:
Lobar flexible fiberoptic lung lavage: therapeutic benefit in severe respiratory failure in pulmonary alveolar proteinosis and influenza A H1N1 pneumonia
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3981374/
That darn Trump has sneaked in and taken over the U of Washington medical center.
Is there nothing he won't do to sell that hydroxychloroquine he has ?
The University of Washington School of Medicine is looking for people who have tested positive for COVID-19 to participate in a clinical trial aimed at finding out whether a controversial antimalarial drug called hydroxychloroquine can keep them from having to be hospitalized.
Word of UW Medicine’s clinical trial comes after reports about a study at Veterans Health Administration medical centers in which COVID-19 patients who took hydroxychloroquine died at higher rates than those who didn’t take the drug.
Today, the Food and Drug Administration warned that hydroxychloroquine carries “known risks” of potentially deadly heart complications — and said the drug should be used in supervised settings such as clinical trials, where the risks can be better studied and mitigated.
Yeah that VA study should be the last word, alright.
Who cares about those patients that took it and got well?
In an earlier comment thread we were discussing ms Fredo's kung flu treatment.
Victory Girls blog linked to a lengthy explanation by ms Fredo. It is even more bizarre and less sciency than I had understood. She not only treated herself, she treated Fredo too.
In light of pdjt's comments, it seems fair to point out that the treatment includes clorox soaks 1/4 to 1/2 cup per 80 gallon bathtub and light treatments from the light harmonics institute www.lightharmonics.com
Then it really goes off the rails of anh shred of common sense.
She has a company, the purist, that peddles this nonsense.
Full details at https://thepuristonline.com/2020/04/the-cuomos-corona-protocol-week-3/
And fredo apparently buys into it. And we are expected to take him seriously? I'll probably bust out laughing every time 7see him from now on.
John Henry
What do you make of this:
That's been standard therapy for 25 years. Flexible bronchoscopy and lavage is common.
Yes all eyes are on China, including Trump who is in hock big time to the China banks."
R/V I thought it was Russian banks? You got to keep your story straight boy.
To keep on keeping track, the tide is turning.
Scott Atlas, actor of "The data is in — stop the panic and end the total isolation" in The Hill, today on Fox News repeating his main points, made by the anti-panic faction from the outset:
Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from COVID-19.
Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding.
Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem.
Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections.
Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures.
The communist power grab is happening. Now.
That you actually think the power centers in this country want a “communist takeover” of society boggles the mind. Mitigation is being pursued in pretty much every country experiencing an outbreak. Far from implementing a coordinated strategy, powers are scrambling, playing catch up, flying blind, etc. The most self-refuting part of conspiracy theories is their requirement that those in power are brilliant, future-seeing string-pullers.
What's "BleachBit??
Well Madame Secretary, it's like this:
The server, well that's like your lungs.
Your emails, those toxic little buggers, are like Coronavirus.
Now-- picture lungs all full of Covid. That's your server full of incriminating evidence.
That's where the BleachBit comes in, to wipe them all clean!
Like, with a cloth?
r/v: "Yes all eyes are on China, including Trump who is in hock big time to the China banks."
LOLOLOLOLOL
China banks. Russian banks.
What's the difference, right r/v?
So, anyway, don't leave us in suspense r/v. Which China banks is Trump in hock too? Come on now, don't hold back.
You know what this means, don't you? It's like the Inga-Mueller groundhog sees its shadow: 4 more years of conspiracies.
Sebastian: "To keep on keeping track, the tide is turning.
Fact 1: ......
Fact 2: ......
Fact 3: ......
Fact 4: ......
Fact 5: ......"
Careful. That list alone, according to the alarmists, makes you the equivalent of the Unabomber.
Yes, it certainly boggles the mind, but it’s happening.
The Democratic Party is allied with the CCP. Now, the virus is real. It was manufactured in Wuhan with both U.S. funding from Obama and Chinese funding.
The panic over the pandemic is a deliberate act of economic sabotage engineered by the Democratic Party and its media allies and the CCP.
The goal is to undermine President Trump and prevent his re-election.
“Anyway, seriously, Meadehouse appear to be backing away from the insanity. If so, better late than never.”
You keep repeating this canard. Althouse isn’t doing anything differently than she has from the beginning. Althouse has said she hasn’t gone into any public building and goes outside daily but keeps her distance from people. Then when she goes out in her car into a crowd of potential Covid carriers, she keeps the windows up and the air recirculation on. So how and why do you keep asserting she and Meade are “backing away from the insanity”?
This is feeling like a replay-on-steroids of the AIDS scare in the mid-1980s.
Note: I am NOT saying AIDS wasn't/isn't a horrible thing: I am saying that -- in its early years people were in a state of absolute panic. The fears of contagion by the slightest touch, by shared air, by saliva or tears, by mosquitos etc etc -- most everyone was convinced that it was just around the corner, waiting for them.
As a timeline reference from Wiki:
"1986: January 14, "one million Americans have already been infected with the virus and that this number will jump to at least 2 million or 3 million within 5 to 10 years..." – NIAID Director Anthony Fauci, New York Times.[53]
(-- then --)
1997: September 2, The Washington Post carries an article stating, "The most recent estimate of the number of Americans infected (with HIV), 750,000, is only half the total that government officials used to cite over a decade ago, at a time when experts believed that as many as 1.5 million people carried the virus..."
As everything in our new modern world, the cycle is being heavily compressed: we are already watching the predicted death expectations drop, as the arguments of transmission get more and more pointed.
My point is: if you are going to be within six feet of someone, wear a condom, people.
I am Laslo
6:33 PM: Guildofcannonballs said: Several silly things.
Sounds like the flak might be going off right outside your window there, GOC. I eagerly await hearing if you have a substantive response, assuming you can get your parachute on in time.
Feel free to wait until the drugs wear off. I'll be here.
@Meade, BTW where did you and the missus go today? Surely not to the protest down at the statehouse, because there were no AR rifles being blandished and no Confederate battle flags being waved, and everybody knows they’re the sure and certain mark of each and every nutty, right-wing protest.
"Yes all eyes are on China, including Trump who is in hock big time to the China banks."
Oh prunella. I have a good friend who has wasted 4 years of his life believing Trump was owned by Russian banks and that the Deutsches bank had all the records blah,blah blah. And now its CHINESE BANKS? China Joe not only has a glass jaw but a balsa wood spine on this issue. They should really just let it go and hope their voter base ignores it too.
Blogger Meade said...
"I wonder how many of these freedom fighters will develop COVID-19?"
They've all had it already. Back in Jan.-Feb. But they all thought it was just a cold. That's what I predict the testing will eventually show.
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Sounds like irony to me but who knows. Perhaps Stockholm Syndrome, as Tim called it, has claimed another.
in other words
“...because there were no AR rifles being blandished.”
Look more closely at the photos. 2nd photo from the bottom. I don’t know what sort of guns those are, but they are brandishing them. So why did they bring them, to protect them from the Covid?
Even Antifa were smart enough not to go out in crowds during a pandemic.
@Shouting Thomas:
The goal is to undermine President Trump and prevent his re-election.
Even granting you all the absurdities of your premise, this would be the most counterproductive plan imaginable. The economic dislocations in China alone will be more consequential than anything Trump could have done. There will also be effects in China from the dislocations in other countries which China relies on to purchase their goods. There has been a huge international backlash to China's handling of the virus, and it has spurred people to reconsider supply chains and look to begin removing from China.
The panic you say was engineered by the Democrats doesn't explain the fact that Taiwan took early and aggressive measures to stop it nor does it explain the reactions from every other country in the world that is experiencing an outbreak. The information we do have about the early reactions in China wouldn't make any sense if your thesis was correct.
You're the mirror image of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
>> "The most recent estimate of the number of Americans infected (with HIV), 750,000, is only half the total that government officials used to cite over a decade ago,
In the immortal words of St. Greta: "How dare you!!!"
Denying the supremacy of mathematical models that incorrectly predict the future is SCIENCE DENIAL!
Now, go find a stake and burn yourself at it. I'll buy a carbon offset for you.
“there were no AR rifles being blandished ”
Of course there were rifles
https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2020/04/24/thousands-coming-to-reopen-wisconsin-protest/
I bet there was brandishing too.
They've all had it already. Back in Jan.-Feb. But they all thought it was just a cold. That's what I predict the testing will eventually show.
I'm starting to believe that as well. Back in Jan something went around the office where I work here in MD. Several people were sick for over a week. My sister, who also works there, was sick with flu like symptoms on and off for about 2-3 weeks. I got a mild sore throat that lasted a day and a mild lung infection with a slight cough that lasted about two weeks, but I didn't get any fever or body aches like my sister. (I take an inhaled steroid for asthma so maybe that helped keep my symptoms mild? ) Who knows, maybe it was covid-19. I hope we can get tested soon.
Laslo: "in its early years people were in a state of absolute panic. The fears of contagion by the slightest touch, by shared air, by saliva or tears, by mosquitos etc etc
Well, the alarmists of those days were in a state of fabricated panic, with fear deliberate created to deflect attention from the actual unpleasant causes of the epidemic.
"1986: January 14, "one million Americans have already been infected with the virus and that this number will jump to at least 2 million or 3 million within 5 to 10 years..." – NIAID Director Anthony Fauci, New York Times.
Hey, where have I head that name before? At what point has an expert been sufficiently wrong that his judgment is not be trusted again? At any point?
"1997: September 2, The Washington Post carries an article stating, "The most recent estimate of the number of Americans infected (with HIV), 750,000, is only half the total that government officials used to cite over a decade ago"
You mean, they did the downward adjustment game in those days as well? Like, first they predict doom, and then they backtrack?
Next, you're going to tell me that it turned out that AIDS, far from being a general threat, actually only presented a serious risk to very specific groups doing very specific things. You aren't implying, are you, that data were being manipulated for political effect? And that -- that we are now witnessing a witless replay of the same farce?
This goes even beyond Karl Marx's imagining. If history was farce in the first place, it repeats as -- what?
Oh christ. Our Governor Newsome is a retard. Can anyone understand what he's trying to say?
“And I’m confident if you do your part, we will commit to doing our part to taking your good work and bringing into a health frame and a public safety frame, and that will help me help move this cause forward beginning to loosen the stay-at-home orders and get this economy back up and you back to work into whatever semblance of normalcy the new normal will provide over the course of the next few months, as we all look forward to the moment where we have herd immunity or a vaccine.”
Lets just admit it. Some people in here wish these people to get sick or even die. I mean if you could have your way and nobody would know , would you have none of these people getting sick? I know I would. It would mean extremely good things for us all, but would you choose that?
I wonder how many of these freedom fighters will develop COVID-19?
Very few, if any. And they made that choice willingly. That’s what freedom is (living in NYC, I can see why you have no idea about that concept).
Can Mr. Peanut go into a burning theater full of children with peanut allergies and yell 'Fire'?
"Not if he gets a salted."
...for spreading virus by yelling unmasked and flouting social distance orders. Coughing, sneezing, laughing. Or just breathing heavy.
Mr. Peanut could get himself so a salted that he winds up Michelle Shocked.
Subways, cruise ships, aircraft carriers. Every passenger is dead from the virus. So are the immediate families and all the neighbors.
Because the virus is most contagious thing ever.
"Some people in here wish these people to get sick or even die" - well, that sounds pretty mild compared to what I've seen Achilles say directly to people here.
You don't have a leg to stand on there.
I cannot spot any pirate flags.
Can I get some help?
>> You don't have a leg to stand on there.
That's because all the models were predicting 11 million Americans would lose at least one leg.
They have now predicting 10,000 loss of both legs. In Madison, Wisconsin.
When only 3 people actually lose a leg, they will claim vindication.
10,000 will join 11 million on the ash heap of statistics.
@Inga, I stand corrected. The person on the left, wearing black, appears to have an AR platform while the person in camo has an AK platform, probably an AK-47.
The joke gets turned back on me.
Inga said...
There were quite a few bearded beer bellied older protestors there. Prime candidates for the ICU and a brand spanking newly bleached ventilator in about two weeks.
4/24/20, 5:29 PM
Inga confirms that she is hoping the deplorables die so she can gloat.
All that talk about sewing masks so she could pass herself off as a decent human being was phoney. Of course.
The mask has slipped - as it always does with her. What a ghoul.
Rosalyn C. said...
Alternate universe: CA Governor Newsom, displaying an obvious pink eye, makes a major announcement today. No, there is no plan for lifting stay at home orders or plans to reopen the economy. Instead he's building a huge bureaucracy to provide meals for special qualifying seniors. Restaurants will prepare and deliver three healthy meals a day to hundreds of thousands of vulnerable seniors, budgeted at $16/breakfast, $17/lunch/$28dinner. Mindboggling. Don't worry, FEMA will cover it. I can't even imagine the boondoggle of local governments picking restaurants and designing low sodium menus. He's also partnering with United Airlines call center employees to have a call in support line, offering wellness check-ins and emotional support.
I actually think those are great ideas and will make it easier to open up the state. Protect and hide away the most vulnerable.
I wrote this in the thread below and Inga proved in this thread that I am absolutely correct about her:
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...
Inga, sorry to disappoint you because I know you're rooting for the death of deplorables, but most of the elderly dying of this are in very blue areas - NYC, NJ, and here in Wisconsin, in Milwaukee and Madison.
It's highly doubtful that they are predominately Trump voters or Republicans.
The red areas of states are doing much better - but still have to follow the same stupid and arbitrary restrictions.
If this disease attacked mainly people in rural areas, do you think NYC would be shut down? Don't make me laugh. And you and the other leftists would be laughing about the rednecks dying off.
4/24/20, 4:43 PM
“Inga confirms that she is hoping the deplorables die so she can gloat.”
It isn’t a curse I’m putting on those fools, they’ve done it to themselves. I am merely observing cause and effect, like most normal people do.
Laslo- Thanks for the aids reminder. I think people forget how panicked people were about getting AIDS.
I don't think Michigan saw a spike in cases from the protests.
It would be great if the protesters don't get sick. That would mean it might be safe for Wisconsin to start opening up.
Here in Michigan, we are once again allowed to buy seeds and paint.
. I am merely observing cause and effect, like most normal people do.
4/24/20, 10:17 PM
They're far safer than people in nursing homes in NY, where residents who have tested positive for the virus are being readmitted. I think they're also safer than healthcare workers in NYC who have to ride crowded subways and share the trains with homeless people.
I imagine most of those New Yorkers vote Dem. But, unlike you, I'm not rooting for those people to die and making snide comments about their appearance and health.
In fact new cases increased in Michigan, after having been in decline. Might just be fluctuations, but MayBee's assertion is baseless.
""Some people in here wish these people to get sick or even die" - well, that sounds pretty mild compared to what I've seen Achilles say directly to people here.
"You don't have a leg to stand on there."
I'm not taking about verbal bullshit and harmless insults. I'm addressing people's real feelings and preferences, and how far they might go just to be right about this, or to see authoritarianism win, "for the greater good".
I'd love to be right too, but that would mean we are safe AND free, and not simply obeying, hiding, and waiting either to die, or for the government to save us. I don't see any of those things as positive.
"You don't have a leg to stand on there."
Let me just say, as a double amputee, whenever I'm having a disagreement with someone and they pull that on me--
--well, needless to say, I just wont stand for it
Ken B- there's no unexplained spike. Nothing different than what we've been seeing, and they are increasing testing.
When somebody tells you who they are and that they would be pleased with your death, believe them.
Further, brandishing is a legal term of art and does not mean possessing. Idiots.
“ Further, brandishing is a legal term of art and does not mean possessing.”
A man who lies even about the dictionary.
Blogger roesch/voltaire said..."Yes all eyes are on China, including Trump who is in hock big time to the China banks."
Russians banks. I think you meant Russian banks.
within six feet of someone, wear a condom, people.
The latest advisory from Wuhan is 4 m, and, if you subscribe to the precautionary principle (a la [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] climate cooling... warming... change), then you should probably double that distance. And, yes, full body condom, especially if there is social interaction through the anal sphincter. There is good cause why that was HIV's preferred transmission path.
Brandish
2 : to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner
Merriam-Webster
L.A. psychic shut down for violating lock-down.
Couldn't see it coming.
Right, Inga? Russian banks.
One question that pops to mind is which network will initially break the story of a ChiCom dossier that shows Trump is a tool of Xi based on Trump having used the same table at a Beijing restaurant that Joe Biden frequented and had women spray green tea on the chopsticks Biden used in a very provocative manner?
Inga: "It isn’t a curse I’m putting on those fools, they’ve done it to themselves. I am merely observing cause and effect, like most normal people do."
Cause and effect.
For instance, it has been proven that Carter Page is not a russian spy, therefore Inga believes he is.
Further, it has now been demonstrated that there was no russian collusion, therefore Inga believes there was.
Finally, there is zero evidence that Brett Kavanaugh ever met CBF, therefore Inga believes he raped her.
As you can see from the above examples, Inga believes in rigorous application of cause and effect analysis....(we won't flummox her at this time with the concept that correlation does not imply causation....baby steps people. Baby steps.)
So, carrying a virus, transmitting the virus, which results in the loss of viability is analogous to premeditated murder. Carrying an egg, transmitting a sperm, which progresses then concludes with an elective abortion is analogous to premeditated murder and millions of excess deaths annually. So, we know the steps to mitigate progress in the first instance, and we the four choices before indulging Pro-Choice, the wicked solution. That said, should it now be necessary to to mitigate progress throughout the year, throughout the period of tranmissible contagions? Should we review the first-order forcings of globalism, [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] immigration reform, social justice adventures (e.g. elective conflicts), labor and environmental arbitrage, and PC politicies that offer safe sanctuary and spread social contagion?
Covid is not a lie. We have to follow the government for our safety.
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"I had been wondering why the positive test numbers were still rising in both Minnesota and Wisconsin. Now we know that both states are ramping up the number of people tested. More tests, more positive results."
Same is happening in MA.
To be fair, Ken B. called out Cuomo's move with nursing homes the other night. IIRC.
Learned today that Gov Charlie Baker didn't push back re-opening to June 29, he just cancelled the remainder of the school year and that day care facilities must remain closed until that date. MA still has a tentative re-opening of non-essential business on the calendar for May 4. Charlie has yet to affirm that date, hedging.
New deaths spiked earlier in the week at 211; 196 yesterday. Have we passed the peak, in MA, that was predicted about two weeks ago?
Further, brandishing is a legal term of art and does not mean possessing.
@Birmel, true, and what constitutes brandishing is established state by state through case law. Although the muzzles are pointed down, from their stance I judge that both hands are on the weapon in such a way that it could be brought to a firing position in a second or thereabouts. I’d be quite surprised if that did not constitute brandishing under Wisconsin law. If the rifles had been slung over the shoulder, it might be different, again depending on Wisconsin law.
I recall the lab testing capacity being 7500 2 weeks ago. I wonder why it hasn't increased. It's almost like the Gov wants to keep control by keeping the state closed.
Clarifying, the person on the right in camo appears to have both hands on his rifle. The person on the left appears to only have his right hand on the handle but his left is off the firearm. Nevertheless it would take only a fraction of a second longer for him to bring his rifle into firing position than his compatriot with the AK.
btw- what is it with the grown dude on a little kid's bike?
MK open your vision and search for the loans due to Trump and you will find Trump owes money to China and of course Deutscher Bank. Mead are you suggesting the doctors are Americans who hate? I really don’t know anybody who hates America in this struggle with the virus,but I see a lot of negativity and anger. From some of the bloggers here.
>>It isn’t a curse I’m putting on those fools, they’ve done it to themselves. I am merely observing cause and effect, like most normal people do.
There is ZERO evidence that these folks have done ANYTHING to themselves.
So you are not "observing cause and effect".
You have an observation of a group of people.
You then predict an effect based on the assumption of a cause.
And the effect you predict is based on your politics and what you hope will come true, and not your observation.
Did you see the Guillotine????? Old Ice Cream eating Pelosi better hide!!!
Anti-shutdown, or rather pro-choice not related to the Pro-Choice religion. No Fetal-Americans a.k.a. babies were Planned/aborted, no social contagion forcing mismanagement of resources, no excess deaths. That said, advice from Wuhan is 3 m physical distancing, 6 m with precautionary principle.
Great interview with WI State Sen Roth - seems he is getting astroturf emails from CCP (and other things). WI State Sen. Roth interviewed with Jan Jekielik (American Thought Leaders)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJL-Qm4eIeE Oops - the interview
Thank you for the photos, Althouse/Meade - Citizen Reporting!
“Mead are you suggesting the doctors are Americans who hate? “
No.
Stay safe everyone.
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