From "New Evidence Suggests Tara Reade’s Mother Knew of Allegations in 1993" (New York Magazine).
Here's the Intercept article.
Video:
Tara Reade told me this is her mother's voice. https://t.co/7ymN6Pj55m— Holly Otterbein (@hollyotterbein) April 24, 2020
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Has Biden even been asked one single question about her allegations?
One question?
One?
i do NOT understand what this is all about; this is Much Ado over NOTHING
we KNOW that it is NOTHING...
because according to the single standard*, NOTHING a democrat can do can be considered Bad
the single standard* states that ANY media report MUST BE pro democrat
Looking for a female Vice President? Biden-Reade 2020.
The Senate should investigate Reade's accusation against Senator Biden.
The hearings should be televised.
God I hope this gets him fired from the nomination. Although he has been doing a pretty good job lately keeping us cocksucker closed.
Bring It on. You would be doing vagina crabs and the United States a huge favor that will help ensure the defeat of the bleached Cheeto
"Although he has been doing a pretty good job lately keeping us cocksucker closed."
Your Freudian Slip is showing.
I am Laslo.
I'm being serious here:
Doesn't every Larry King comedic impression begin with "San Luis Obispo, Hello!"
Where is WOW??? Where are all the pussy hat wearers??? Where is Alyssa Milano?? That's right. THEY don't CARE about women who accuse Democrats of awful things. Don't tell me they are not political.
Even if it is mom, it really doesn't add any evidence to the pot given that mom does not get into any specifics. It has already been established that Reade made contemporaneous unspecified complaints about Biden at the time of her termination.
I don't ever want to hear about Christine Blasey Ford again. If they don't care about Tara Reade, then they really shouldn't care about Blasey Ford. Hypocrites.
This is coming out too soon. Want this well after the convention, right before the election. Would actually be doing the Dems a favor if they could remove Biden.
It was a long time ago.
Since then, Biden has gotten tired of his role as the initiator.
I am Laslo.
If Democrats did not have double standards, they’d have no standards at all
I think this is very weak.
1 no mention of sexual harassment, much less physical assault
2 reade says she was devastated, this mom talks about the daughter's respect for the senator even after leaving.
3 we have no reliable dating yet, although that might change
The first two points are pretty strong I think.
If the Senate held hearings, Biden would just plead senility.
Mark said
“ Even if it is mom, it really doesn't add any evidence to the pot given that mom does not get into any specifics. It has already been established that Reade made contemporaneous unspecified complaints about Biden at the time of her termination.”
Exactly. Even if it’s true it doesn’t provide evidence of an assault by Biden, just that things were not happy at the office, which we already know.
I want Joe to be the nominee. The Bernie people will start chanting during his acceptance speech. “Tara. Tara. Tara.”
Senator Diane Feinstein caused televised hearings of the sexual-assault accusation against Brett Kavanaugh. Her reasoning was that Kavanaugh is Roman Catholics and therefore should be kept off of the Supreme Court, because he as a Catholic might approve some legal restrictions on abortion
If the nominee had been Jewish, Senator Feinstein would have buried the sexual-assault accusation and would have prevented any hearings on the accusation. Feinstein would have protected her fellow Jew and would have reasoned that Jews reflexively oppose legal restrictions on abortion.
In the case of the sexual-accusation against Joe Biden, the accused person again is a Roman Catholic.
If televised hearings were conducted against Kavanaugh because he is Roman Catholic, then such hearings should be conducted likewise against Biden, because he too is Roman Catholic.
Biden is NOT Jewish and therefore is NOT exempt from televised hearings when accused of sexual assault. It will be interesting to watch Senator Feinstein explain why televised hearings should NOT be conducted against Biden, who is a Roman Catholic.
Dem. Long ago. No direct witnesses. Who's she anyway? Contemporaneous complaints don't prove anything. Mom's call adds nothing.
So, what are we talking about?
Compare:
GOPer. Longer ago. Claimed witnesses actively deny knowing the person and the event. No contemporaneous complaints. No specifics about date or transportation. Girly voice by accuser afraid of flying to hearing adds credibility.
So, obvious rapist.
Ken B is a liar and a Concern Troll.
But I want Biden to be the Democrat candidate.
Democrats really don't want to ever rat on each other. No matter what the crime.
In fact it's the opposite. Circle the wagons. Media-D lead the way.
The problem with this #meToo biz is that nobody’s that clean.
It’s time to give up the feminist, stereotypical female notion that anybody is that clean.
Sanctimony is the most stereotypical female emotional trait. Probably has great adaptive evolutionary purpose.
But, it’s bullshit.
The solution to this is to throw this entire #meToo, feminist obsession over rape/sexual assault in the trash.
So, yeah, Biden’s probably guilty, but I don’t give a shit.
Even as reprisal.
The media wash away all the Clinton-Biden abuse of power crimes for family enrichment.
So we get Biden and Hillary.
Mebbe it is weak, but is just as or more substantial than the scumbag attempted take down of Thomas and Kavanaugh. If you can’t or won’t accept that or are looking for ways to blow it off you are a piece of shit.
I wonder how many times Biden made use of the Congressional fund they established for paying off women over the sexual misconduct of members and staff. Do they keep a record of that? I would think they'd have to.
I'd like an answer to that question because if Biden handled Reade as confidently and expertly as she describes in her complaint, then it wasn't Biden's first rodeo.
Outcome: Kavanaugh is on SCOTUS and will be there the rest of his life.
Bullshit ignored.
Be happy with this outcome. To hell with #meToo and the feminist rape/sexual assault hysteria.
I want Biden to run. He’s an incredibly weak candidate. Why help the Dems be rid of him so they can slip in another, better candidate without resort to the primary process?
The purported moral/fairness issue here leaves me cold.
When talking to Larry King, Tara Reade's mother sounds distraught.
That proves that she is telling the truth.
That' just it, ST - the hysteria is only in one direction.
If you're a big D, you get a pass. You don't even get a question about it.
Bill.... Biden... more...
@BleachBit
But the outcome of buying into this will be that the Dems will field a more electable candidate.
the Congressional fund they established for paying off women over the sexual misconduct of members and staff
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have Any media (or interested citizens such as Judicial Watch under FOIA) attempted to trace when and in which loaded bill this fund was established?
and continued funding for these many years?
Ken B said...
I think this is very weak.
1 no mention of sexual harassment, much less physical assault
2 reade says she was devastated, this mom talks about the daughter's respect for the senator even after leaving.
3 we have no reliable dating yet, although that might change
The first two points are pretty strong I think."
Yet this is far more credible than the allegations made against Clarence Thomas and Kavanaugh.
Tara Reade herself, confirmed the story...https://www.theblaze.com/news/tara-reade-says-her-mother-called-larry-kings-show-to-report-her-allegations-against-biden-in-1993-a-tape-has-emerged
It is strange that the fact that Reade praised Biden online is taken as disproving her story, while the fact that Anita Hill followed Clarence Thomas to another job and maintained contact with him isn't seen as impeaching her credibility. If one accepts that Hill had mixed feelings towards Thomas that don't invalidate her story, why isn't Reade granted the same leeway? I still don't believe the "fingering" detail if it means what I think it does, but it's likely that something happened that would be embarrassing to Joe if it were proven and if anybody bothered to cover the story.
I agree cubanbob….Much More credible than those other two!!
"This is coming out too soon. Want this well after the convention, right before the election. Would actually be doing the Dems a favor if they could remove Biden."
This is why it is coming out now, ARM. Just look at the journal that published this. The Intercept isn't on the right. I wonder if AOC picks up the story and runs with it publicly.
If Liz Warren is serious about being President she should withdraw her endorsement and jump back in. She knows that Biden doesn't have enough delegates yet to secure the nomination. There won't likely be anymore primaries held before whatever kind of convention the Democrats try to hold so he is unlikely to amass any more. She knows the party will do anything to make sure Bernie isn't the nominee. She also knows that she was the preferred MSM candidate, She doesn't need campaign funds she just needs to use Twitter like she was Trump and attack Biden like she was Hillary Clinton. If she hits him hard enough, fast enough and often enough and gets some of his blood in the water the MSM will take him down. But, it has to be done before he is the official nominee and soon. The Tara Reade story isn't going away now. Any female Democratic candidate who takes on Biden now can, force a brokered convention and steal this nomination away from him.
Establishment Dems hate Glenn Greenwald and The Intercept for pursuing and publishing stories that hurt then politically. It's probably the most significant news source that attacks Democrats from the left. They heaped scorn and abuse on Greenwald for not jumping in line and being a megaphone for the Russia hoax.
It's complicated with Feinstein, too. When she first came on the scene the story was - if I remember it correctly - that she had been raised Catholic and went to Catholic school and returned to her father's religion when she married. Now the story seems to be that she was never Catholic -- and she does have a real hostility towards Catholicism.
But Feinstein didn't oppose Kavanaugh because he was Catholic, but because he was a Trump appointee and perceived to be conservative. Had Kavanaugh been Jewish, it's not like she would have loved him.
"San Louise Obispo" LOL
Mike Sylwester said...
Senator Diane Feinstein caused televised hearings of the sexual-assault accusation against Brett Kavanaugh. Her reasoning was that Kavanaugh is Roman Catholics and therefore should be kept off of the Supreme Court, because he as a Catholic might approve some legal restrictions on abortion
If the nominee had been Jewish, Senator Feinstein would have buried the sexual-assault accusation and would have prevented any hearings on the accusation. Feinstein would have protected her fellow Jew and would have reasoned that Jews reflexively oppose legal restrictions on abortion.
In the case of the sexual-accusation against Joe Biden, the accused person again is a Roman Catholic.
If televised hearings were conducted against Kavanaugh because he is Roman Catholic, then such hearings should be conducted likewise against Biden, because he too is Roman Catholic.
Biden is NOT Jewish and therefore is NOT exempt from televised hearings when accused of sexual assault. It will be interesting to watch Senator Feinstein explain why televised hearings should NOT be conducted against Biden, who is a Roman Catholic."
Just what is your point? As best as I can determine what you are implying is only a Jew Democrat would have done what Senator Feinstein did? Are you saying that no none Jew Senator in Feinstein's place would have had televised hearings? Are you sure that a Catholic Democrat Senator wouldn't have held televised hearings? You think if it was to the House to confirm a Supreme Court nomination allegedly Roman Catholic Nancy Pelosi would have held closed hearings? Please enlighten us.
Lurker21 said...
It is strange that the fact that Reade praised Biden online is taken as disproving her story, while the fact that Anita Hill followed Clarence Thomas to another job and maintained contact with him isn't seen as impeaching her credibility. If one accepts that Hill had mixed feelings towards Thomas that don't invalidate her story, why isn't Reade granted the same leeway? I still don't believe the "fingering" detail if it means what I think it does, but it's likely that something happened that would be embarrassing to Joe if it were proven and if anybody bothered to cover the story."
Indeed Biden played a major role in the Thomas confirmation hearing. A lot of video clips of Biden speechifying on behalf of woman is in order now.
Something probably did happen between Biden and Reade, and it is now clear that Biden has lied about it in some manner. What the video does is prove that Reade didn't fabricate this just recently- and remember, the mother isn't the only person she told who has confirmed the story of finger-gate, which strengthens Reade's claim even more.
So, judging from J. Farmer's post, this story is a gambit to edge out Biden, the dementia patient, and replace him with Cuomo.
I'm for Trump.
Cuomo is a far more formidable candidate. At least he's not suffering dementia.
So, in 2016, the Dems (by their own admission in court) rigged the primaries for Hillary, and this time around they will just ignore the electoral primary process.
Add in the Russia collusion hoax, and now the attempt to sabotage the economy. (Not to mention that Obama funded the Wuhan lab.) Hell of a party!
It doesn't matter. If it's not a police report at the time, she isn't serious. It's part of the courtship ritual and she was between flattered and repulsed. After all Biden's a celebrity and that's flattering.
If a street bum had done it to her she'd have filed a police report, being single-minded about it.
As it was, she hadn't decided which side of madonna/whore she wanted to play.
At the very least, the Senate now needs to examine their records and try to find the complaint Reade says she filed. A special master should probably be appointed by the Senate leadership.
But Yancey - no one is above the law. Except all democrats in power.
Pittsburgh, What's your question?
Blogger Howard said...
God I hope this gets him fired from the nomination. Although he has been doing a pretty good job lately keeping us cocksucker closed.
4/25/20, 10:33 AM
Blogger Howard said...
Bring It on. You would be doing vagina crabs and the United States a huge favor that will help ensure the defeat of the bleached Cheeto"
Howard perhaps it has escaped your attention but Senility Joe won millions of Democrat votes in the primaries. Biden is the best the Democrats had in the primaries in accordance to wishes of Democrats have to offer by virtue of him being the nominee. And just like that grifter, criminal and traitor Hillary Clinton was beaten by The Orange Cheeto so will the moronic, criminal, grifter, creepy and senile be beaten by the Orange Cheeto. Thank God Hillary isn't president now.
Mike Sylwester said...
4/25/20, 10:54 AM
Let me just say...not your best work.
Aside from the whole piece being invidious, do you think a pro-choice Catholic D Senator in Feinstein's position would have spared the Catholic R-aligned Kavanaugh, because Catholic?
Really? Is that how you Catholics are?
This is 97-1/2 times as corroborating as anything presented by Blasey Ford & Co., and it still isn't anything.
One difference is that I think most of us believe her, becuase the story is believable, and there is little reliable exculpatory with this one, but the Blasey Ford claims were virtually impossible from the witness testimony. No where, when, who, or how. Another thing is Trump supporters have no real need to have this be true, and might even be conflicted about whether they even want this to stick. Therefore, no unhinged deep need to believe or make anyone believe.
“ Yet this is far more credible than the allegations made against Clarence Thomas and Kavanaugh.”
Indeed. Hill was pretty much refuted by her own actions, and Ford had nothing at all. But it’s still far from what you need to take such charges seriously.
Blogger rhhardin said...
It doesn't matter. If it's not a police report at the time, she isn't serious. It's part of the courtship ritual and she was between flattered and repulsed. After all Biden's a celebrity and that's flattering.
Rh, stupid and wrong as usual.
The conflict as always is that they are on the same side. Team D. It's like saying that a Mafia soldier will go to the police department because a caporegime pinched his wife's ass or ran over his dog. A police thoroughly corrupted by the Mafia.
Aside from the principle of the thing, there are liabilities. And very little upside.
Ken B.
I think this is very weak.
1 no mention of sexual harassment, much less physical assault
2 reade says she was devastated, this mom talks about the daughter's respect for the senator even after leaving.
3 we have no reliable dating yet, although that might change
The first two points are pretty strong I think.
1. Context : The show was about sexual harassment and assault in the halls of power, it's implied
2. What Reade's feelings were and her mom's characterization can be two different things, no. Especially since Reade has said that she was horrified that her mother called in.
One of the major problems that women face when bringing up these kind of accusations long after the fact, is why not bring it up sooner. Assuming that this is Reade's mother is shows that she at least told her mother that she had filed a complaint,
Also from the NY magazine article
The Washington Post confirmed another Reade claim: that her professional responsibilities changed around the time of the alleged assault. Reade initially oversaw internships in Biden’s Senate office. But two former interns “recalled that Reade abruptly stopped overseeing them in April — just a few weeks after the interns arrived — but neither was aware of the circumstances that led to her departure,” the Post found.
Blogger Howard said...
God I hope this gets him fired from the nomination. Although he has been doing a pretty good job lately keeping us cocksucker closed.
4/25/20, 10:33 AM
Blogger Howard said...
Bring It on. You would be doing vagina crabs and the United States a huge favor that will help ensure the defeat of the bleached Cheeto"
1. PDT will prevail over any opposition. Thanks for your concern, though.
2. If this be the anti-Biden medicine, you best choke it down in one gulp rather than sip at it like Pappy van Winkle. Dragging this out is worst of both worlds - doesn't eject Biden but does weaken him in the race, PLUS tars everyone who supports him.
Pull the trigger, wigger.
The attraction of women to men in power is so alien to me. The attraction men have toward women is completely different in every way - almost the opposite. At least that's how I see it. There is nothing attractive to me about a powerful woman. I'm kind of a knuckle dragger though.
Ken B. and company are misunderstanding (intentionally, we all suspect) one important thing. I don't know of anyone on "my side" who thinks Biden should be convicted on this evidence and denied the nomination. (As several have noted, those who want Trump to be reelected are pretty much satisfied with Biden as the opponent.) So forget whether this is "enough" or "adds anything new". It's a hell of a lot more than anyone had against Kavanaugh. We're not asking for a conviction. We're just relishing the opportunity to point out the obvious double standard, in wide open glorious view, of the press and the dems.
It would be unseemly for the party of Bill Clinton and JFK to torpedo Biden for sexual peccadilloes, when the dementia is sufficient grounds. Whatever happens next will probably reveal who is driving the bus that they throw Joe under.
Also from the NY magazine article
The Washington Post confirmed another Reade claim: that her professional responsibilities changed around the time of the alleged assault. Reade initially oversaw internships in Biden’s Senate office. But two former interns “recalled that Reade abruptly stopped overseeing them in April — just a few weeks after the interns arrived — but neither was aware of the circumstances that led to her departure,” the Post found.
Call me journalistically crazy! But would it take much journalistic effort for the NY Magazine or WaPost to, you know, like interview Reade and, you know, like, then ask Biden whether Reade worked for him, how long, when quit, why quit, etc, etc, etc.
This story should stop squirming, and succumb to that pillow soon. How do we hide the body if people keep pointing at it.
We should NOT “Be happy with this outcome. To hell with #meToo and the feminist rape/sexual assault hysteria.”
Because of the way the Democrats treated Justice Kavanaugh and Justice Thomas, gropey dopey Biden sexual peccadilloes and proclivities must be examined in embarrassing detail. They made the Rules.
There is nothing attractive to me about a powerful woman. I'm kind of a knuckle dragger though.
I think that is generally true. Men are attracted to youth and beauty and women are attracted to status and power. How many "trophy" husbands are there?
It's been an old feminist trope that there is a "double standard" in which men are considered studs for sexual promiscuity and women are considered sluts. For one thing, there is no such double standard. For another, women are one's who attack other women for being sluts. But the implication of a "double standard" is that men and women should be judged by the same standard, which is ridiculous, since men and women have different sexuality. Compare what a man has to do to get sex versus what a woman has to do.
Joel Pollack, recently in ms maisel, used to have an interview show that was pretty good on YouTube
At the end of each show they would play c the Larry King Game" the interviewer had to 1-do an imitation of larry king 2-taking a call from someone in a town with a funny sounding 3-as larry king say something funny or personal.
The only one I specifically remember is George costanza taking a call and asking how hilary clinton was different from a bowling ball.
"you could eat a bowling ball if you had to"
Christopher Walken did a pretty good Larry king.
Larry David "nah. I changed my mind. I'm not going to do it."
John Henry
The dems are conflicted over whether they can get away with dumping Biden, and since this story makes for the ideal pretext for dumping him, they can't quite not cover it. Delicious.
Mark
This really is not a good issue for the double standard, because this is such bad evidence. The sarcastic comments about believe her because she is distraught are much better. The focus is on their double standards. It’s perfectly fair IMO to say to Democrats , look this is bullshit but can you explain how it differs from Blasey Ford. It’s quite another to say, aha here is good evidence.
It's not enough we have to deal with large scale death from Coronavirus, the ensuing Great Depression (caused by excessive lockdown), but now we gotta dealy handsy Grandpa Simpson:
Reade's story first resurfaced in an article in The Intercept on March 24. Podcast host Katie Halper then interviewed Reade, who said that in 1993, a more senior member of Biden's staff asked her to bring the then-senator his gym bag near the U.S. Capitol building, which led to the encounter in question.
"He greeted me, he remembered my name, and then we were alone. It was the strangest thing," Reade told Halper. "There was no like, exchange really. He just had me up against the wall."
Reade said that she was wearing “a business skirt,” but “wasn’t wearing stockings — it was a hot day.”
Hotter than July!
She continued: “His hands were on me and underneath my clothes, and he went down my skirt and then up inside it and he penetrated me with his fingers and he was kissing me at the same time and he was saying some things to me.”
Whew, at least there wasn't any hair-sniffing.
Reade claimed Biden first asked if she wanted “to go somewhere else.”
“I pulled away, he got finished doing what he was doing,” Reade said. “He said: ‘Come on, man. I heard you liked me.’”
Come on, man! You like me, you really like me!
Does it really matter whether Biden is the face of the Democratic Party? They just need a face in place so that the real powers behind the curtains can lead. And hell, if he can't be duly elected, the elections will be tailored to elect a Dem. Anything to stop Trump!
Yancey Ward at 11:29 AM
At the very least, the Senate now needs to examine their records and try to find the complaint Reade says she filed. A special master should probably be appointed by the Senate leadership.
According to the Intercept article the records in question, assuming that they weren't destroyed were turned over to the University of Delaware, UD says the records are sealed until Biden drops out of public life. The Senate could issue a subpoena but that is unlikely. Mitch McConnell isn't likely to want to set a precedent of the Senate mucking around one political parties nomination process.
Bidenfingergate! I wasted that on an old thread, and everybody's here.
I agree with Farmer about the myth of the sexual double standard, at least as retailed by the usual feminist suspects.
Narr
Powerful women don't attract me, but some gals in uniform do
The courtship ritual is constantly subverted by missed signals and misread signals. It's a wonder anyone fucks much less gets married. There's a reason why masturbation has supplanted baseball as the national pass time.....If I were advising Biden, I would ask him to offer a simple apology. He should explain that he misread her friendly smile as a seductive smile. He should further explain that although he touched her buttocks in an anticipatory way, he at no time tried to digitally penetrate her. It was all just a misunderstanding as sometimes happens in the halls of power. He sincerely apologizes for his misbehavior, and he will amend such behavior in the future....Such an apology would fit under the believe all women rubric, and most feminists would forgive him for this all too human mishap.
St Louis you're on the air.
Larry, I'd just like say..
What's your question?
Larry..
Los Angeles, you're on the air.
Wouldn't it be funny if it turns out no one really cared about this issue, ever? Like not even #metoo or professional feminists? That it always just depended on who/whom?
Ha ha.
Thinking about it with maximum strategery, it's good to have the press slow-walk this. Enough independent outlets can pick up parts, chat about it, pick away at it, nudge, cajole....
With Kavanaugh, they needed a killshot, but failed.
Here, death by a thousand cuts over the next 6 months will work just fine.
At least, Grandpa Joe can simply, and believable, say, "I Forgot!"
As George Costanza said, it's not really a lie, if you really believe it.
Carry on, Comrades.
Biden knew what Trump was trying to explain once upon a time in the locker room about grabbing pussy, but Biden had to go and get creepy with it. The guy is always around, but always getting things wrong. It's really a demonstration of Democrat ineptitude that Biden is who they ended up with. Half the country is hoping some strange surprise happens and our next President ends up being someone we cant even imagine today. That's not a very encouraging situation. I want Trump to win, but I also wish the Democrats had more gravitas in their first string. If Trump loses, I don't want the country in the hands of an idiot or a corrupt hack, but that's the choice they give us.
BAG @ 11:56 am
Call me journalistically crazy! But would it take much journalistic effort for the NY Magazine or WaPost to, you know, like interview Reade and, you know, like, then ask Biden whether Reade worked for him, how long, when quit, why quit, etc, etc, etc.
They are waiting for someone to present themselves as an alternative. Until that happens all the MSM would be doing is helping Trump and that aint gonna happen. Someone has to step up and says why not me instead.
Biden's in the gray area. He's obviously a hands-on, touchy-feely guy who likes to reach out and touch people, but this is the only accusation of more serious abuse. If more charges come out, he's done. If this is the only one, he hangs on - at least until his physical and mental condition catch up with him. The fact that there are so many women who won't hesitate to accuse a Republican but hold back when it comes to a Democrat, makes it a little more likely than there is something to Reade's story.
The "decent" Joe Biden meme and the need to return to "decency" by dumping Trump is hard to get a handle on. It may be more a nice way of saying that Joe is mediocre and exalting him for that. He may sneak quarters out of the till when nobody's looking but he won't get caught stealing in a big way. He's a modest, unpretentious ordinary guy who can't stop making immodest, pretentious boasts about how extraordinary he is - the little guy who couldn't stop telling everyone how big he was, until he just started rambling about his days as a lifeguard 60 years ago.
Maybe it's not mediocrity that's celebrated, but the idea that Joe is a return to business as usual in Washington. If that's what you want you might vote for Biden. If it isn't you might not. Does it say much for "business as usual"? Rudderless, oarless, with a clueless captain and slow leaks everywhere. Is that how it always was? Is that how it is now, even with Trump?
I suspect joe is not going soon. Maybe not til the convention. This whole kabuki is to keep pdjt off balance. He can't start campaigning if he doesn't know who he'll be up against. Not Biden, for sure, but who?
Not Cuomo for a variety of reasons. Skeletons in the closet, handling of kung flu (nyc accounts fo a quarter of all deaths), fredo, personality. Most of all because it would poison for a24 run.
So who? Who does pdjt develop a campaign against?
Or does he just ignore the opposition and campaign on his own record. I think he could do that but even so... Not knowing the candidate makes it harder.
John Henry
"The dems are conflicted over whether they can get away with dumping Biden, and since this story makes for the ideal pretext for dumping him, they can't quite not cover it. Delicious."
The Democrats are in a pickle- they can't dump him on grounds of dementia since so many of them endorsed him just to get rid of Sanders with all that dementia on full display. One would have to explain why they endorsed him in the first place, and Sanders' supporters won't believe the lies that would have to be told in that case. In other words, they would have to admit they risked electing an Alzheimers' patient just to get rid of Sanders. And the remaining primaries are still out there. waiting to be held, by the way. It is long time to the rescheduled Democratic convention- time enough to hold those primaries, so dumping Biden now might not be an option before July.
I never got into tv Larry but I i did like his radio show that ran something like midnite to 5 am.
No call screeners, larry just pushed the next blinking button and every call was a crapshoot.
Always interesting.
John Henry
I hate false accusers, but I REALLY hate false accusers with time machines.
“Would actually be doing the Dems a favor if they could remove Biden”
I would have agreed with you a couple of months ago but now I’m not so sure. Clearly, the Dems and the media won’t let Biden do or say anything that isn’t minutely scripted. We’ve seen an Affirmative Action Empty Suit elected. We’ve seen a Reality TV star elected. Would it really be that remarkable to see a Cardboard Cutout elected?
I bet whoever Biden chooses for his VP does far more damage to his campaign than Biden himself does.
Not Cuomo. Bernie. His gang has not given up.
cubanbob at 11:24 AM
Just what is your point? As best as I can determine what you are implying is only a Jew Democrat would have done what Senator Feinstein did? Are you saying that no none Jew Senator in Feinstein's place would have had televised hearings? Are you sure that a Catholic Democrat Senator wouldn't have held televised hearings? You think if it was to the House to confirm a Supreme Court nomination allegedly Roman Catholic Nancy Pelosi would have held closed hearings? Please enlighten us.
Senator Dianne Feinstein opposes the nominations of Roman Catholics to judge positions on the principle that they are Roman Catholics and therefore likely to rule in favor of restrictions on abortion.
That is Senator Feinstein's principle and practice.
Dianne Feinstein renews her decades-long crusade against Catholic judges
It's my personal opinion that if Kavanaugh had been Jewish instead of Roman Catholic, then Senator Feinstein would have used her position on the Judiciary Committee to bury Christine Blasey Ford's bogus accusations.
This is an opinion I have about Senator Feinstein as an individual, not an opinion about other Jews.
That's the better question above--what viable democrat would volunteer to take Biden's place.
I'm sure that a lot of dems don't want Biden but...who
Who's viable now but also too stupid to realize that 2024 is the year you want to make your run? 2024 is almost guaranteed to be a democrat president. It's been 40 years since the last stretch where we had 12 years of 1 party president but nearly all of that was offset by a solidly democrat congress.
Thankfully I hope to have my retirement savings entirely safely stashed offshore by '24.
Poor Joe, just gets "biden" for a tag.
Ken B said.. Even if it’s true it doesn’t provide evidence of an assault by Biden, just that things were not happy at the office, which we already know.
Wow!
Little Kenny B has undergone a transformation after the emotional meltdown over COVID-19 "devastating" death rates.
I thought he was just stupid, but he has truly turned into Lil' Chuckles. A troll by any other name ...
that's also a good counterargument.
The polls all say a generic democrat wins...let's run a generic democrat and see if he can win.
Availability of the King call was known prior to the accusation being brought forth recently. No doubt more confirmation that she told people about it will pop up.Naturally, does not prove it happened but will prove that she said at the time that it happened This accusation just one part of the ammo gonna be used against Joey.
More interesting question is who is pulling the strings? Russia? China? Clinton? Obama?Steele? Bernie? Cuomo?Redd Foxx?KenB?DNC?Zucker?AOC? Epstien? WHO?
I wonder where these details about the Tara Reade accusation are coming from.
I suspect that the evidence will get stronger in order to force Biden to drop out in favor of a candidate who is not in the early stages of dementia.
Of course, the evidence is coming from the Left.
The VP is going to be either Hillary or Michelle. Quit fooling yourselves. Nobody else in the party has the ability to wring the last drop of victimhood out of the leftist true believers than these two. I'm betting on Michelle, because this year the October surprise is gonna be indictments, even if the surprise comes in June.
Why, yes, I really, really don't like Hillary, now that you ask.
Nichevo at 11:41 AM
... do you think a pro-choice Catholic D Senator in Feinstein's position would have spared the Catholic R-aligned Kavanaugh, because Catholic?
Senator Feinstein opposes nominations of Roman Catholics to judge positions, and she is willing to use dirty tactics to block such nominations. She does not reflexively oppose and block the nominations of Jews.
Dianne Feinstein renews her decades-long crusade against Catholic judges
[quote]
U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein again is coming awfully close to expressing anti-Catholic bigotry and close to imposing an unconstitutional "religious test" upon federal judges. Outrageously, several fellow Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee are following her lead.
In a committee hearing Wednesday on the nomination of Notre Dame Law School Professor Amy Coney Barrett for a spot on the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals, Feinstein and her Democratic colleagues pelted Barrett with questions about her Catholic faith and its relation to duties as a federal judge.
"When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you," said Feinstein of California, the committee's ranking Democrat. "And that's of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for, for years in this country."
....
Fourteen years ago, Feinstein, along with now-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and now-Whip Richard Durbin, led the charge against William Pryor, who was being nominated for the spot on the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. (Pryor eventually was confirmed and still holds the seat.) Schumer repeatedly questioned Pryor's "deeply held beliefs" – specifically, his Catholic beliefs – while Feinstein disapprovingly quoted, out of context, a line from a commencement speech Pryor had made for his alma mater, the McGill-Toolen Catholic high school in Mobile.
Pryor had said that "the challenge of the next millennium will be to preserve the American experiment by restoring its Christian perspective," and Feinstein had countered that such a statement somehow violated the nation's supposed "absolute separation of church and state."
As I explained back then, Feinstein had been objecting to a speech in which Pryor was approvingly quoting St. Thomas Aquinas and theologian John Courtney Murray. Rather than advocating a subjugation of civil law to church "dogma" (to use Feinstein's term), Aquinas had been arguing that good Catholics must be better citizens. Murray, in turn, had been asserting that Catholics should be good citizens of the United States specifically, as a pluralistic society dedicated to the ideals of the Declaration of Independence.
What I wrote then applies now, in light of the Feinstein-Durbin verbal assault on Professor Barrett: "Sens. Feinstein and Durbin might have a hard time explaining to the nation's 64 million Catholics how it disqualifies a man from a judgeship if he quotes from St. Thomas Aquinas."
[end quote; the article continues]
You tell me it doesn't matter?
So Dementia Joe is going back to Tara, because the land is in his blood, and tomorrow is another day?
Great work if you can get it. But at this point, since Poor Old Joe can't remember what he had for breakfast, let alone what happened years ago, it really does not matter whether he assaulted the lady or not. The dems need to get rid of him, they cannot admit publicly that he is suffering from dementia, so why not use the #metoo excuse to get him to disappear stage left and let the dems assign their perfect candidate, since whatever their voters want is beside the point as the DNC shall pick as they always do - the primary theater of the absurd is just that - theater for the rubes.
Amazing contrasts here.
Trump talks about grabbing women by the pussy. Biden did it.
Trump impeached for shaking down the Ukrainians. Biden did it.
Not very relevant, but in re San Luis Obispo -
That place, the hilly countryside around it, is spectacularly beautiful.
Its an awfully nice town as well.
I was there twice last year, and quite often in the previous thirty years.
Its also one of the high points of the route of the Amtrak Coast Starlight.
California is wasted on many of its residents. Its politicians get away with all they do because the land itself makes up for so much of this human folly.
The Hogma lives loudly inside the Feistein family.
Government whore. Vast wealthy from insider crony connections.
What's the over-under on Joe getting gently pushed out via sexual grabbing issue or Covid-19 coughing issue?
Everyone seen this joke? Justice Kavanaugh puts on a Joe Biden mask and the media rushes to defend him
O.T.: Kim Jong-un is a vegetable. I'm guessing a cute little button mushroom.
I think there was a lot of flirting between Biden and Reade going on. I also believe that Biden agrees with Trump when he said "If your famous they let you grab their ****" The problem was that Biden thought he was much more famous then he really was and went too far. This agrees with her saying that he said to her "but I thought you liked me" which seems very much like something Biden would say.
It happened a long time ago so I don't know how much it should effect the current election. I believe these things need to be handled at the time they happened not years later. What bothers me the most is that Biden used his power to get her fired and make sure she did not get another similar job. This shows me that he did not respect her NO and used his position to punish her for saying no.
Trump talks about grabbing women by the pussy. Biden did it.
Trump impeached for shaking down the Ukrainians. Biden did it.
Let's have a little less talk and a little more action.
"Thistlerose said...
I think there was a lot of flirting between Biden and Reade going on. I also believe that Biden agrees with Trump when he said "If your famous they let you grab their ****" "
Everyone believes that. It's a known truism that women are attracted to money and power. Anyone that says they don't believe that is lying
Francisco D: "I thought he was just stupid, but he has truly turned into Lil' Chuckles. A troll by any other name ..."
Ken B is a Canadian Chuck, or "Chan-uck".
The key is to build a reputation as a moderate/conservative in the out years then as we get closer and closer to the election you gradually move into pure Inga/ARM/Howard alignment....because, gosh darn it, that's just where the "facts" lead you.
This appears to be the settled roadmap for the gradual morphers as opposed to the Reid Hoffman-lefty billionaire funded efforts to create instantaneous online-"conservatives" that just can't bring themselves to support those horrible republicans.
This was demonstrated in the last Alabama senate race where Reid Hoffman and his tech pals admitted in court that was precisely what they had done.
Of course, even after Reid Hoffman-lefty billionaire admitted he had done it (the very thing the left lied about in claiming russians did it to swing the 2016 election to Trump) in court under oath after being presented with irrefutable evidence, 2 things happened (as expected):
1) the rest of the left/LLR-left denied it happened at all
2) Hoffman got a sweetheart-no punishment deal because "democrat"
It's my personal opinion that if Kavanaugh had been Jewish instead of Roman Catholic, then Senator Feinstein would have used her position on the Judiciary Committee to bury Christine Blasey Ford's bogus accusations.
This is an opinion I have about Senator Feinstein as an individual, not an opinion about other Jews.
4/25/20, 1:00 PM
You'd be wrong. Dianne Feinstein won't hesitate to throw other Jews under the bus if it's needed, such as when she called for Al Franken's resignation a month before he actually resigned. Feinstein's lack of support, combined with the need to put Doug Jones into office with lies, was probably forced Franken from office. She might defend RBG from such accusations, though it's an open question whether that's ethnic solidarity or simply sparing the nation from truly horrifying geriatric pornography being a product of the investigation. And all that is not exactly coming from a Feinstein fan.
What interests me is that Howard is openly contemptuous of Biden, a puppet like ARM is blustering that it's actually to the advantage of the party (HAH!), and Ken B is trying to move the goalposts so hard they're crossing state lines. The Dems might remove Biden, but if they replace him with anyone but Bernie Sanders they may as well blow up the party entirely.
Good times a'coming.
Drago said...
Ken B is a Canadian Chuck, or "Chan-uck".
4/25/20, 2:11 PM
Maybe 10% of Canadians would be recognizable as American-style conservatives, and those mostly in Alberta. The Tory Party would be called "Gay Nader Fans for Peace" in America.
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-lockdowns-were-the-black-swan-11587765416
Mr. Forward said...
Looking for a female Vice President? Biden-Reade 2020.
What's wrong with this? I can't put my finger on it!
Whitney which is why I said I was more concerned about what he did after she said no then what he did before she said no. Even if your attracted to money and power you still have the right to say no and should not be fired for saying no. And I do believe she said no when she thought he went to a place she was not ready for him to go.
My guess is, being in a "vegetative state" means that Kim Jong Un will be reincarnated as Kim Chee.
“God I hope this gets him fired from the nomination.”
Me too! Wouldn’t that be nice surprise?
“God I hope this gets him fired from the nomination.”
You know that means we're probably going to get stuck with Cruella De Ville again right?
Old Joe had an active penis back in the day, and took advantage of his office both for sexual gratification and personal financial gain for himself and his family (brother and sons).
Is that really hard to believe?
Joe's scum. Phony "doctor" Jill probably has known this for a long time, but kept quiet because riding the gravy train was too much fun. She wants to continue to cash in and is willing to keep doofus, lost-his-marbles Joe out there so she can become First Gold-Digger.
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/04/highlights-of-news_25.html?spref=fb&m=1
“You know that means we're probably going to get stuck with Cruella De Ville again right?”
I’d say Amy Klobuchar could step right into Biden’s shoes sans the dementia.
Ah yes, Amy the Comb. What a great choice - so would she need to pick a person of color who identifies as female as a running mate?
Larry King has fantastic seats at Dodgers games. He’s right behind home plate.
This would have been more than enough evidence to keep Kavanaugh off the bench, or failing that, to launch an immediate televised impeachment inquiry in the House.
Biden? Not so much.
This is coming out too soon. Want this well after the convention, right before the election.
You think this is the worst they have on Biden?
Bless your heart.
Bob,
I forgot about that fund.
This from late 2017:
"Frustrated with congressional stonewalling, an ethics watchdog group is going public with its demand that the list of lawmakers tied to $17 million in tax dollars used to pay off sexual harassment claims be released.
“The public deserves to know,” said the Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust, or FACT.
Congress’ Office of Compliance has paid out $17 million in harassment cases and kept the names of members involved secret. Two current female members said that there are two sitting lawmakers involved.
Congress is exempt from the Freedom of Information Act, but FACT said the need for transparency and Congress’ own credibility is on the line. "
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2?
It makes sense the Mother would not go into details on the call, since even with what she said her daughter was mortified. And if she was recognized, this could be deeply embarrassing for her, and her daughter.
This is more evidence something did happen at the time.
And with a CD well founded fear of retribution, I can see why other Biden victims would not come forward. The Left has a proven record of being vicious, and will ostracize. I was surprised Weinstein was taken down.
Come on, man!
She's a lying, dog-faced pony soldier!
No joke!
Lets all help "Doctor" Jill get her deserved title of First Gold Digger.
Between Hunter Biden's Chinese venture capitalism, his knocking up the Arkansas Stripper, and his pop, Slow Joe's full frontal, south of the border groping, multiple hair sniffing, and early stage Alzheimer's, the Dems have one heckuva candidate..,,,
Hahaha. Really enjoying the hypocrisy from certain commenters here. I'm sure they were all in on the Jean Carroll Bloomingdale's allegation, nevermind the completely flimsy Christine Blasey Ford tale.
How come when a woman accuses a Democrat of sexual misconduct, there's actually evidence?
Hahaha
1993? Wasn't that near the salad years for those 'waitress sandwich' Senators? Sounds plausible to me.
Please let Biden be the final pick for the Dems. Even Inga would like to see him gone.
Am I reading white on white hate, yet again ? I guess we're not adult enough to play kind especially female and male, but what the heck is " digitally penetrated " ?
I take it that is not a metaphor for foreplay, but I've been wrong before.
I don't know. Mr. Biden is a sexy man with money. Young girls may or may not be dangerous. Young girls usually do not appear with warning labels or instructions. Similar for young boys. Beat them with that belt as parents and don't tell the cops. Or, have trustworthy parents that may guide in a better direction for ones own life success.
This issue is way beyond my patience.
Suggested solution;
If more female senators have had sexual something rather other with a younger male or more. Will that balance out the confusion ?
Dementia Joe sexy? What in dogs name are you smoking and more importantly, why won't you share?
Reflections on hypocrisy: I don't think that if similar charges were leveled against Trump that I would withdraw my support. I don't really blame the Democrats for standing by their man. The purpose of the Democratic Party is to insure the health and welfare of the Democratic Party. When they act to bring about this higher good for America, they're not really being hypocritical. Therefore they can damn Trump's excesses and ignore the allegations against Biden in good conscience. There are larger issues at stake.....The people whose hypocrisy is the stuff of stroke inducing agita are the media. Their stated purpose is not to insure the health and welfare of the Democratic Party but rather to report the facts. Their hypocrisy on the Biden allegations is blatant, and they don't even seem to care about it. I wonder if they even know how much people utterly despise them....It's one thing for the Mafia to lie and cover up for the Mafia, but it's quite another thing when the FBI does. Perhaps a more current analogy would be to state that it's one thing for China to lie and cover up for China,but it's quite another thing when WHO does it.
God I hope this gets him fired from the nomination. Although he has been doing a pretty good job lately keeping us cocksucker closed.
So you've closed up shop, Howie?
I made the first post...
Has Biden even been asked one single question about her allegations?
One question?
One?
....
Reade made her allegation in late March....Has any member of the press asked Biden a single question about this? It's been 30 days!
" Wouldn't it be funny if it turns out no one really cared about this issue, ever? Like not even #metoo or professional feminists? That it always just depended on who/whom? " ha ha
Wow !
And people literally eating other people, should not be illegal. Whom/who on what end of perspective. The ha ha, is a bit too psychotic for me to comprehend and the proper emotional response to that is sadness.
Doesn't anyone bake pies or go fishing anymore. Geesh, I miss my grandma.
Forget all yous.
"Doctor" Iill Biden as America's First Gold Digger?
Plenty more where they came from,
some biographical details do match up.
But only all of them.
It's not a confirmation. The caller could be any woman who lived in San Luis Obispo whose daughter had recently left a Senator's office.
The video offers nothing but hearsay evidence that daughter was not upset and that she was not concerned enough to report whatever a Senator did.
If the caller is Reade's Mom. is she alive and well and competent to testify 27 years after she supposedly called Larry King of all people?
If the caller is Reade's Mom. is she alive and well and competent to testify 27 years after she supposedly called Larry King of all people?
Everybody but you knows mom is dead.
No offense, but that question seems slightly moronic.
Nice try, Gadfly!
You can be a paralegal for the OJ Simpson defense team next:)
"some biographical details do match up."
But only all of them.
It's not a confirmation. The caller could be any woman who lived in San Luis Obispo whose daughter had recently left a Senator's office.
Agree. Also, could have been a man in Idaho pretending to be a woman from San Louis Obispo.
Waiting for ARM to chime in
I'm shredding the document
I'm keeping my mouth shut
I'm running on radio silence
I'm letting the record speak
I'm shredding the document
The switchboard is lighting up
I'm not taking anymore calls
Well maybe from Larry King
An honorable Clintonite - or marching orders from Crooked Hillary?
Peter Dauo, a political activist and one-time fierce Hillary Clinton backer, took to Twitter Saturday to urge former Vice President Joe Biden to end his presidential bid over new developments in the sexual assault allegation against him.
I have to wonder if the Democrats are changing their minds about wanting to win the next Presidential election.
We'll be out of lockdown but still fighting the Corona virus - barring a highly effective vaccine.
The economy will be in a mess and leading the country to a full recovery will be a tough row to hoe.
The international situation could be disastrous as well.
China will be a very big and difficult problem. And Russia. And North Korea - God knows what will happen to them and their nuclear weapons.
Who really wants the job this time around?
Besides, the meth-like feedback loop they've got going from mainlining the Trump Hate will be tough to give up.
The video offers nothing but hearsay evidence that daughter was not upset and that she was not concerned enough to report whatever a Senator did.
If the caller is Reade's Mom. is she alive and well and competent to testify 27 years after she supposedly called Larry King of all people?
I do so hope this becomes the new standard, and the 'me too' movement does mea culpas til the end of century, and banned from the public square.
Its only fair the last Dem to drop out is now the presumptive nominee. Dems are all about fair.
First time listener, long time caller.
“Nobody did nothing to nobody.” - Yogi Berra, on the ‘Copacabana Incident’.
Are we using the phrase "he's been credibly accused" anymore? Or is that old fashioned now?
Stinkfinger Joe needs to fess up about this. His supporters would probably forgive him if it was just in to the first knuckle.
Before 911 emergency lines were implemented, crime victims had to have their mothers call Larry King. It was an imperfect system, but it was the best we had.
"Credibly accused" is not applicable to D's.
Narr
See you tomorrow
The left operates through numerous media channels, all of which hew to the party line and usually the same talking points. When CNN makes Larry King show tapes available, New York Magazine and the Washington Post begin to at least mention the allegations and new information that tends to corroborate the allegations, and a well-known Clintonista publicly calls for Biden to withdraw, you have to assume that everyone is working from the same script, with each playing pre-assigned roles. This looks like battlespace prep for someone, maybe Hillary. Hard to see how they avoid handing it to Bernie, but it's clear that there is a plan in motion to dump Biden even if we can't yet see the rest of the plan.
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