I can't believe Governor Cuomo is not aware of that news, published prominently in multiple articles in the New York Post. Why is Andrew risking his credibility to cover for his brother?!
Families all over know the reality our family faces: few are one case and done. Sure enough, Cristina has covid now. Kids are still healthy but this shook us at our literal core. All are stepping up. Can't wait to shake this fever so I can help her as she helped me. Sucks. pic.twitter.com/ncyoQ3saWc
— Christopher C. Cuomo (@ChrisCuomo) April 16, 2020
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Because Andrew is enamored with his newfound national presence. He doesn't have to think about what he says. He's got people cooing about him because he does not sound like Trump. And let's face it. That is refreshing- if even for just a moment.
Cuomo wears off, though. Reality tends to settle in.
Some people are more equal than others.
Shook us to"our literal core?" What is it with these Democrat politicos and "literal"? I need a medical opinion on what the literal core of the human body is. The alimentary canal?
Because Elite Progressives are smarter than us, and can do whatever they want.
Good question Ann. On the previous thread I said “The Left want a caste society.” They do, I wasn’t snarking. Cuomo will win support from the base for standing up for that goal. And I think he knows it.
Why is Andrew risking his credibility to cover for his brother?!
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La cosa loro
It could be the despite Chris Cuomo's elite education, Chris Cuomo is an idiot.
He's his little brother! Why does Biden cover for his son even though it undermines his credibility? He's his son! And they love their family.
That said, I think Korea studied this and found masks were quite effective in reducing spread to other family members. There's probably a lot of confounding variables, though, since someone who wears masks consistently even at home is also probably being extra careful, e.g. eating meals separately, wiping down handles and surfaces, etc.
Re: Cuomo's national presence -- it's kind of bizarre because the whole reason he's on the news all the time is that New York's response was exceptionally bad, even compared to Western Europe. A lot of that was DeBlasio and New York City, but Cuomo didn't make great choices early on either. Contrast with California, which had community spread earlier than New York, but state business leaders and municipalities and eventually the state government responded reasonably well. They're a hotspot, but they've avoided the kind of disaster we see in NY. No one is airing press conferences with Newsom, though, because he didn't screw up and there's nothing to discuss. Cuomo's interesting because of the drama of a heroic response to a desperate crisis. But there probably wouldn't be a crisis if New York were a little more competent.
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Chris Cuomo & family are reported to be staying nearby in South Hampton in what is called "the family home" in various accounts.
The home does not belong to the family, it belongs to a specific person.
Could we know who that is, please?
I suppose it could belong to some kind of family trust or such. Might we know that if it does?
John Henry
Andrews previous act was the subprime contagion as hud secretary after cisneros.
How do we know hes has the virus? He WANTS to be a victim.
So were they all in a car together?
Fredo's family was a lot safer, well, less likely to catch the cooties, with him on the beach than they would've been at home:
"Home outbreaks were the dominant category (254 of 318 outbreaks; 79.9%), followed by transport (108; 34.0%; note that many outbreaks involved more than one venue category). Most home outbreaks involved three to five cases. We identified only a single outbreak in an outdoor environment, which involved two cases. Conclusions: All identified outbreaks of three or more cases occurred in an indoor environment, which confirms that sharing indoor space is a major SARS-CoV-2 infection risk."
The Cuodashians.
Doesn't the common flu quite often infect the whole family? Is this supposed to be something new?
Chris Cuomo is an obvious ass, and not becuase of COVID, but being on the beach with his family has nothing to do with the transmission. They live in the same house sharing everything including the air. His wife likely caught it soon after he did and before anyone knew Chris had it, including Chris. She may even have had it first. Andrew is right. It's pretty hard to avoid sharing the virus if you live in the same house, and with hotels not available, you don't really have much choice, unless you have multiple houses. Living together inside structures is what our species does, it's how we have built everything. Another reason why I like being alone.
Fredo and Sonny aren't quite on the same page.
In addition to wife and kids, reporting was that there was another woman on the outing.
Who was that woman? Does she live with the family, perhaps a maid or nanny?
If not, has she now spread chris' kung flu back to her family?
Good on the fat-tire biker for exposing this assholery.
John Henry
At Peace Plaza East, the Sunshine Youth Brigade is promoting a War on War.
They are rejecting the wise words of Hippie Elder Dave, and the Community. They are throwing organic eggplants at each other.
TRUMP!
If there's anything good that comes of all this it's hopefully that people will ignore what Chris Cuomo says about anything from now on.
Stop agreeing to live under house arrest.
Cease allowing yourself to be controlled out of your fear of getting sick and dying.
Theater.
Don't harsh on Gov Cuomo -- New Yorkers have trouble staying indoors, jeez, that's what the famous subway system is for.
Uh-Oh -- the MIT boys are looking at the NY subways as a vector of transmitting Covid-19. MIT study: Subways a ‘major disseminator’ of coronavirus in NYC
Money Quote: "“New York City’s multitentacled subway system was a major disseminator — if not the principal transmission vehicle — of coronavirus infection during the initial takeoff of the massive epidemic,” argues Harris, who works as a physician in Massachusetts."
Wait a minute. Counter-factual -- until 2 months ago, didn't the NY subways have 5.4 MILLION riders per day and 1.7 BILLION RIDERS per year? For more than 100 years?
That's a lotta strangers in close quarters. Some with vaccines, someone without. Some sick some not. Some with illnesses, you'll never know about.
Ain't the NYC subways "a major disseminator" of all types of germs and bugs -- for almost 100 years?
And, yet, no major outbreaks from 1918 Spanish Flu to 2019 ChiCom Flu?
Hmmm. Trying to put 2 and 2 together............
Why is Andrew risking his credibility to cover for his brother?!
Because New York is sufficiently in the Democrats, pocket that he can get away with it. Duh!
Maybe Chris is a natural-born free-range person or a "one health" follower. "One health" comes up in the article "Origin and evolution of pathogenic coronaviruses."
"Origin and evolution of pathogenic coronaviruses" is an article by the Director of the Wuhan Lab that some say carelessly caused the current pandemic. There is no proof for this.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7097006/ "Origin and evolution of pathogenic coronaviruses"
US/Chinese Funding of Wuhan Lab
The work at the Wuhan Lab is jointly funded by the Chinese and the US governments as can be seen in the acknowledgements section of the article "Origin and evolution of pathogenic coronaviruses." The section of the US government doing the funding of the Wuhan workers is NIH/NIAID which has been led by Dr. Fauci since 1984. The effort was to get ahead of the corona virus before it caused a pandemic which, we can easily see now, was a good idea. It would be ironic if that effort caused the outbreak due to carelessness.
"This work [on the origin and evolution of the coronavirus (which is said to be increased contact with bats)] was jointly funded by the Strategic Priority Research Program of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (XDB29010000), the National Natural Science Foundation of China (31621061) and the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) National Institute of Allergy and Infection Diseases (R01AI110964) to Z.-L.S*; NIH grants (R01AI089728 and R01AI110700) to F.L.;"
from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7097006/ "Origin and evolution of pathogenic coronaviruses"
[* Z-LS is Zheng-Li Shi, the head of the Wuhan lab.]
Takeaway from the article.
"It is widely accepted that many viruses have existed in their natural reservoirs for a very long time. The constant spillover of viruses from natural hosts to humans and other animals is largely due to human activities, including modern agricultural practices and urbanization. Therefore, the most effective way to prevent viral zoonosis is to maintain the barriers between natural reservoirs and human society, in mind of the ‘one health’ concept."
From "Origin and evolution of pathogenic coronaviruses" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7097006/
Stay out of the bat cave.
Chris Cuomo?
You meant Fredo Cuomo, right?
"I can handle things... I'm shmart! Not like everybody says! Like, dumb! I'm shmart... and I want respect!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgHXHtHSsNo
Fernandistein said...
Fredo's family was a lot safer, well, less likely to catch the cooties, with him on the beach than they would've been at home:
HOW did they get to South Hampton??? (where their house is being BUILT!!)
"The 65-year-old longtime resident said he was just out for a bike ride before Easter dinner when he spotted who he thought was Chris Cuomo on property he says the CNN anchor bought in East Hampton last year. The acreage is still being developed; a steel frame for its future house is all that’s up at the moment, David said." - NY Post
What Cuomo did going outside knowing that he is already ill, was totally irresponsible.
However, to be fair, it IS very hard to quarantine....or live together and not have others get sick. Even with a common cold, or a normal flu season.
When you live together, breath the same air, sleep together, use the same household items....it is impossible not to share germs. It is also impossible to know that you are infected until you show symptoms.
Often, one or the other of us will catch a cold or something and the other doesn't. Rarely do we both get 'sick' at the same time. RARELY do we even get sick at all.
We can't spend our lives cowering in fear that we might, maybe, possibly catch the virus or bacteria du'jour. We can be vigilant in our sanitation, avoid people who are sick.
AND face the reality that we really are not in control and may get ill no matter what we do.... or get crashed into by a loaded logging truck at some point in our lives (actual event). We can't stop living, stop going outside of our houses, driving our cars because shit happens.
Fredo didn't properly quarantine himself and is responsible for her virus infection.
Just a reminder, it's the Cuomo Brothers, not the Einstein Brothers.
Chris Cuomo seems like an asshole, but I hope Cristina Cuomo recovers quickly.
I still think Chris Cuomo is faking it. The guy is crazy. Probably another fake news scheme some idiot at CNN thought up. They punched the tar baby.
“Why is Andrew risking his credibility to cover for his brother?!”
These prominent Democrats have no credibility among normals. Among Democrats it makes no difference what they say or do. “We choose [our] truth over facts.” (Joe Biden.) There is no reality. The hate for Trump and Republicans justifies everything! He knows that.
Most lefty Democrats live in a perpetual state of cognitive dissonance and assuage their discomfort through TDS and disparaging non-Democrats.
Is Don Lemon going to weep again?
I work in healthcare with direct patient contact. Due to proper ppe and minor isolation techniques, my family is Wuhan flu free. This dumb mutt truly is a Fredo
Many old people don't take proper precautions. (No visits from family and friends? "F$*k that.")
Many sick people don't take precautions. (No family outing with the wife? Oh, no!)
But the rest of should sacrifice?
Why?
When Fredo tells his wife to bring him a sandwich she complies. She knows what roid rage is.
It’s very hard for a person to quarantine in a home and other people not to get infected
That is not the issue. The issue is that infected Fredo, and his family, did not stay in place until he was done being sick and the other family members didn't come down with it. Which would include another 2 weeks of isolation (friend of mine had it for 2 weeks before being hospitalized for a week, and was told to isolate for another 2 weeks).
But then some animals are more equal than others. The 'elites' think the world revolves around them and screw those busybodies in the Hamptons who don't want the Typhoid Fredos, with anger issues, in their midst.
Let's keep in mind that this is not all on Chris Cuomo. Cristina is an agent in this too.
It is better not to catch Covid-19. Here's the question not being openly discussed: If you catch it and survive with no lasting damage, are you better off?
Why is Andrew risking his credibility to cover for his brother?!
Because they believe themselves to be victims. It's never occurred to them how stupid they may look. Same thing with the 'Fredo Incident'. If Chris had just told the guy who called him Fredo to fuck off and gone on with his life, no one would have ever heard about it. But, nooooo, he had to go on his show and play victim.
Poor Chris, stuck in quarantine in between jaunts to the beach.
"I Feel Your Pain" theater
Quoting from an order from Gov Wolf in PA.
Retail businesses ..."require all customers to wear masks while on premises,and deny entry to individuals not wearing masks, unless the business is providing medication, medical supplies, or food, in which case the business must provide alternative methods of pick-up or delivery of such goods"...
emphasis added by me.
I may be mistaken, and although the meaning can possibly be discerned from that text, the use of "unless" in that context would necessarily indicate that what follows will be an exception to something stated previously. The text then proceeds to add an additional requirement without specifying what that exception is (an additional requirement is not an exception to previous statements). Ambiguity in these matters is not proper. Again, I may be mistaken, but red flags went up when I first read that document with the intention of clearly understanding what I was reading (as a non lawyer).
If Fredo can't stay inside his house, or at least in his own yard, for two weeks, can one expect his brother the governor to stay respect state laws, or at least respect others' rights?
It isn't just a bad look acting elitist as an office holder in a national emergency, it is a demonstration of unfitness for office. Andrew should have the state police cite his brother, and make sure Fredo gets the maximum penalty under law.
Can't wait to shake this fever so I can help her as she helped me.
If you're well enough to go on outings, you're well enough to help. Also, wasn't he still doing some sort of broadcast through it all? If he was well enough for that, how much "help" did he need? Or is he one of those who expects to get waited on if he's ill, even if he is still capable of doing things for himself?
Chris Cuomo is a public health MENACE, who should be LOCKED UP.
He's DEFIED quarantine; bullying random bike riders on the streets of Southhampton, all the while exposing everyone of us to his putrid disease.
He's not infected his wife.
His children are being abused (after all, he put them in a car with himself and drove around Southhampton yesterday.)
He should be arrested for intentionally spreading this deadly virus and exposing his poor family to it. If he's allowed to continue walking about freely, he'll likely pass this disease to his innocent children, perhaps killing them.
(Typo above). He's now infected his wife.
"it IS very hard to quarantine....or live together and not have others get sick. Even with a common cold, or a normal flu season."
It's EASY to quarantine if you are a filthy rich millionaire. He could go rent an apartment, away from his family.
Instead, he's one-by-one infecting them. And the cops are allowing him to do it, putting two innocent children in harm's way in the process.
This guy deserves to be in a prison cell for violating a deadly disease quarantine.
Why is Andrew risking his credibility to cover for his brother?!
"Because he's my bruddah, and he's fambly. For us Italian types, blud's thicka than watta. Whatsamatta wit' you, lady? Ida thunk that for a goyl from Jersey, you'd know this stuff a lot bettah"
I can't believe Governor Cuomo is not aware of that news, published prominently in multiple articles in the New York Post. Why is Andrew risking his credibility to cover for his brother?!
Because of people like you Ann.
They put Mary Mallon in lockdown, twice and finally into prison for the rest of her life.
How come Typhoid Fredo isn't forced into a hospital environment? And instead, is allowed to walk the streets of New York accosting strangers and spreading his filthy, deadly disease?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon#Investigation
When is the New York City Health Inspector gonna lock this guy down?
What I'd like to know is how Mrs. Cuomo got access to a test. A friend's relative in Pennsylvania was tested and only learned the result after he went into and came out of the hospital -- twice -- for major pulmonary interventions. Turned out that yes, he did have the corona virus. Good to know.
Many others would like to get tested, but they're just little people. They huddle in their houses and wait, meek and compliant.
Why is Andrew risking his credibility to cover for his brother?!
Because Andrew isn't running for President until 2024, and he needs his brother to be at CNN when he does.
Apology through em-pathetic appeal.
How do you isolate while driving out to the beach. Did the guy with sudden fevers drive by himself in a separate car?
He's got a feevah, and the only prescription is...
Because New York is sufficiently in the Democrats, pocket that he can get away with it.
Yep. Andrew knows a) he'll be Governor no matter what he says, b) he won't get the 2020 DNC nomination and c) his brother will always be in his family. This was easy for him.
Quarantines and lockdowns need voluntary compliance in order to be effective. Population density has a huge influence, but it's more than a coincidence that cities with a culture of celebrating defiance and throwing caution to the wind (NYC, NOLA) have struggled to contain infections. Chris Cuomo's following-rules-is-for-losers attitude is not atypical for NYC. I suspect that's probably part of the reason why European countries where following rules is ingrained in the culture (Germany, Poland, Norway) have done better at containing infections than countries with a prevailing attitude that rules are suggestions and compliance is optional (Italy, Spain, UK). And it shouldn't surprise anyone that entire households get infected once one person is infected during quarantine.
If Andrew invites Chris for a little fishing trip next big Cuomo get together, I'd be wary if I were Chris.
They know you you know all about him leaving his house, getting front confronted by the bicycle guys, his meltdown and they don't care. They just laugh at you. They think it's funny that they can get up and say this stuff and most people just buy it and you impotently spew with rage. This is fun for these people.
We are not all in this together. Staying safe is killing us.
Some superstitious Chinese believe they would get well if they gave their disease to someone else. So the sick would spread the dregs of their Chinese med in the middle of the road hoping someone would step on it and get their illness.
The superstitious Chinese thinking may explain why Fredo Cuomo and his family spent their weekend outside disregarding brother Andrew's emergency "decree". Or brother Fredo wanted to stick it to the Man like a self-important cantankerous liberal would do.
can you believe this
yes that was a critical error, at the beginning of the Chinese new year.
Chris Cuomo's actions, like continuing to broadcast and going out with his family, are at odds with his claims of fever and uncontrollable shaking. Put me in the "he's not infected, it's an act" camp.
When was he tested? Where was he tested? Who administered it? Who will independently vouch for the positive result? If he wasn't the press and if he wasn't reliably left of center, the press would be fact checking his claims.
Show us the chipped tooth. If the tooth ain't chipped, you must have been gypped.
maybe the stricken Cuomos can be treated with Pluristem’s allogeneic placental expanded (PLX) cells. Essentially, these cells can potentially suppress or reverse the dangerous over-activation of the immune system that causes death in many coronavirus patients.
But wait,! This is the most infectious disease ever. Why did it take so long for her to be infected. Plus ventilator. Plus malaria drug. You can bet your ass they have the latter.
The Cuomos are such worthless pieces of shit I can hardly bring myself to type these words.
"Families all over know the reality our family faces..."
Personally, I doubt that your family's reality is in any way similar to the reality of others!
When your definition of "quarantine" includes an outing to the Hamptons...
Now that Chris is ostensibly "out of the danger zone" and would otherwise be returning (not like he ever left, and that's a red flag re how ill he really ever was(n't)), they need a storyline for Season 2 of the CNN reality-TV show, "Chris Cuomo - the Coronavirus Diaries"; thus, now it's his wife's turn to be the story.
They will avoid glaring mistakes of the first season, such as the episode where Cuomo appeared on TV the morning following the night in which he'd been up past 3 a.m. while the 102-degree fever finally broke. In that episode, he appeared to be well-rested, full of energy, perfectly coiffed, showing no pallor or sluggishness of any kind, which made some eyebrows rise in suspicion. After all, anyone who's ever had a 102 fever knows that when you're up all night sweating through the peak, you still look and feel like a wooly-brained melted banana for much of the following day as you recover your hydration etc. and continue to convalesce. Cuomo showed none of those signs; in fact, he presented as perfectly healthy for much of the time he spent ostensibly afflicted with the killer virus.
With the wife as the story, she never has to appear on screen but Chris will nonetheless have great license to rhapsodize about her in his highschool quarterback delivery style, singing her praises and flogging the sympathy rolls to bring his thirsty audience along for every moment of the compelling family drama that is "Chris Cuomo - the Coronavirus Diaries".
THIS... is CNN.
I haven't bought this bull from jumpstreet. Chris Cuomo's full of it and CNN's dining out on ratings from a crappily-produced reality show.
Other than as comedy gold, he and his equally oafish family are useless.
Maybe she caught it on one of their trips out to see how their new house construction is going.
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