April 6, 2020

At the Monday Night Café...

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... you can talk all night.

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Lawrence Person said...

Enjoy the latest Democratic Presidential Clown Car Update.

Sebastian said...

Critical care doc quoted at Power Line: "To put it simply, we do not know how many lives ventilators could or will save. It seems that at least two-thirds of attempts to stave off death with their use will fail in the short term. Of the remaining third, we do not know how many will be successful in the medium or long term. This doesn’t quite seem like a convincing rationale to shut down the economy, redirect previous manufacturing output towards ventilators and suspend civil liberties to give us more time for the attempt."

Doesn't seem quite like it, no.

stevew said...

Loveley photo, reminds me of sunsets on the Gulf of Maine.

I was presented today with an invitation to crew on a delivery of a 40ft Hinckley from Southwest Harbor ME to Hilton Head NC this summer.

You have no idea how marvelous that sounds right about now.

Mark said...

The Cylons that are spaceships are pretty cool.

rehajm said...

It's a failure to understand why economic activity is important for humanity on a number of levels and the negative consequences of suspending that activity. To fall back on some inarticulate dismissal of greed exposes those who do so as unworthy of consideration.

Mark said...

You have to admire their attack plan that utterly wiped out 99 percent of their enemy.

rehajm said...

an invitation to crew on a delivery of a 40ft Hinckley from Southwest Harbor ME to Hilton Head NC this summer.

I hope you're not the navigator- hehe...

stevew said...

@rehajm: hahaha, good point, and, yes, I am not the navigator!!! Helmsman, deck hand, sail trimmer, and minor repairman, all good. I'm terrible at directions (and locations). Typos a speciality. :-)

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Who could have predicted this?

"Trump's call with Xi was March 27. His last use of phrase "Chinese virus" was on March 26, first at that day's White House briefing and then on the Hannity program that night. After taking to Xi - Trump stopped it."

By now, only everyone - except Drago.

Kyzer SoSay said...

From the reading I've done, it looks like the most effective treatment for those stricken with the WuhuFlu is hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zinc. Zinc gives the HCQ an ion channel into the red blood cells where it protects the iron portion of the hemoglobin from viral hijacking. The virus kills by allowing the iron radical out of the blood cell, and this iron ion is toxic to the body. Simultaneously, that blood cell is now less capable of oxygen transport. The patients with this disease are losing blood oxygen DESPITE ventilation. From what I've been able to gather, there is a good chance of success - even for patients with highly advanced symptoms - if this drug treatment is administered with oxygen (with or without high pressure ventilation). Apparently, there are a few clinicians who believe the ventilation is doing more harm than good in many cases by keeping the lungs irritated and somewhat inflamed, and damaging the throat and windpipe.

To me this all seems to make sense. Not a doctor, but I know chemistry and biology about as well as my wife who teaches the former at HS Honors level. Iron ions in the blood bind and transport oxygen, and the disease that hydroxychloroquine is traditionally used to treat, malaria, messes with red blood cells in a somewhat similar fashion to the WuhuFlu. Lack of blood oxygen will kill you regardless of how well you're physically inhaling and exhaling.

Still not sure why the azithromyicn is helping, but maybe it works to stave off secondary bacterial infections while the immune system is working on killing the WuhuFlu. It's looking like this treatment basically negates the lethal effects of the virus, preventing it from hijacking blood cells and sapping your blood O2, so your body can fight it off on it's own.

Again, not a doctor, but if this is correct, then we might just have the final cure - aside from people who might be contraindicated for hydroxychloroquine, which should be a small number. And there are other drugs out there that have a protective action with red blood cells, so maybe those would work in substitute . . .

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Only the best people - a fucking social 'scientist'.

Navarro says he is qualified to disagree with Fauci on coronavirus treatment: ‘I’m a social scientist’

Kyzer SoSay said...

"By now, only everyone - except Drago."

Bullshit ARM. Trump got his point across, and made the media and leftists look like the fools they are. They cried out about his racist language, and were subsequently buried under their own usage of the same terms - "Wuhan virus", "Wuhan coronavirus", "Chinese flu", "Chinese virus". MSM talking heads and many leftist politicians and figures were saying the SAME exact thing right up until they decided it was racist because Trump was ALSO saying it. Their hypocrisy was laid bare for all to see - for about the millionth time this calendar year.

Trump - 1
TDS-Afflicted - 0

Now he's got more important things to do than keep it going. He knows that those paying attention will remember it as yet another example of "gotcha" leftists falling on their faces for failing to remember their own words. As happens here, quite often, with the leftists and trolls.

Drago said...

Xi's Cuckholster ARM: "Navarro says he is qualified to disagree with Fauci on coronavirus treatment: ‘I’m a social scientist’

Did Xi direct you to post that?

Are you directed in all your posting or do you have a degree of autonomy?

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

If you tone it down, just a smigden, you'll pass for the real thing.

iowan2 said...

Only the best people - a fucking social 'scientist'.

In a Multi National survey, a consensus of Doctors are proscribing Chloroquine for COVID 19 patients.

Science, Doctors, CONSENSUS! Settled!

narciso said...

I like the clunkier metal ones, they were originally a carbon based life form

Kyzer SoSay said...

"Only the best people - a fucking social 'scientist'."

Maybe he's reading the social media posts of all the doctors - literally around the world - who have had GREAT success with the hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zinc treatment. Including one that went public today or yesterday in LA, who watched a dozen critical patients go from death's door to fine and dandy within a day of starting treatment.

That seems scientific enough for me, especially as it seems to be saving the lives you claim to care about so much.

Drago said...

Kyzer SoSay: "Bullshit ARM. Trump got his point across, and made the media and leftists look like the fools they are. They cried out about his racist language, and were subsequently buried under their own usage of the same terms - "Wuhan virus","

After 4 straight months of acting as Xi's Personal Cuckholster, ARM is desperately throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the wall to change the focus from 4 straight months of Tiananmen Rose-ARMs ChiCom propaganda pushing.

You should go look at Xi Cuckholster ARM's lunatic posting on the Trump-Reassuring Voice" thread.

Its hilarious!

Mark said...

it looks like the most effective treatment for those stricken with the WuhuFlu is hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zinc

There is some indication that treating with zinc even earlier, in the initial stages of symptoms when it is still in the nose and throat, that it might stop it then and there.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"In a Multi National survey, a consensus of Doctors are proscribing Chloroquine for COVID 19 patients."

Exactly. Clearly ARM is either behind the information curve as usual, or just looking to troll.

Drago said...

Xi Cuckholster ARM: "If you tone it down, just a smigden, you'll pass for the real thing."

Shorter: please stop pointing out what a ChiCom propagandist I've (ARM) been!!

LOLOLOL

narciso said...

The supreme cylon commander who had macnees voice, who only baltar could recognize when he was in iblis form.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

‘It's a shit sandwich': Republicans rage as Florida becomes a nightmare for Trump

Anthony Fauci's coronavirus approval rating in Florida is almost double Trump's, according to a new poll

Poll shows Biden with 6-point edge on Trump in Florida

Biden may have dementia, but its not a handicap in Florida.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"There is some indication that treating with zinc even earlier, in the initial stages of symptoms when it is still in the nose and throat, that it might stop it then and there."

I read that too. I don't know why that would be - unless maybe the zinc's ionic action on the cell membrane of the red blood cells (which allows the other drug to work better) also interferes with the WuhuFlu's ability to penetrate.

I take zinc supplements every other day, and on my bottle it says "Supports a Healthy Immune System". That's about half the reason I take it, actually. So maybe zinc in general has a good prophylactic effect of just boosting initial immune response, and also has a treatment effect if the virus gains a foothold and starts doing damage, by increasing the other drug's efficacy . . .

Guildofcannonballs said...

Dude from Jersey, but a good guy (not like all those other...) No, people from Jersey that go elsewhere are typically good in my opinion formed through experience.

To some, not the same as science, to those pre-science imperitive, as it will be post-peritive to some. They know, that's what they do.

He never explained what he did, just talked about "graphics."

Oh boy I bet his ex Oh Gosh...
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One of the best nights I ever had, back then, was I wasn't there for the big blow-up.

Repeat.

They couldn't litera;;y b;a,e it on anything but me not being there; even for these Libs a bridge farly too.

narciso said...

Of course abc flushed glen larsons project because archie bunker, can you imagine?

mandrewa said...

Worldometers is now showing a slightly dropping coronavirus death rate.

I don't think this is really an exponential climb anymore. Oh, of course it is still exponential, but what I mean is that the particular number that we are referring to is dropping.

As many have said many times, worldometer is not showing the complete picture. Since it is mostly only the seriously ill that have been tested, usually people that have pneumonia or are close to having pneumonia then in most places we don't have numbers on all the people that were infected but did not get seriously ill.

But many individual countries are now reporting a falling number of new cases (and especially a falling number of seriously ill new cases).

So that's great.

At the moment the known world death toll is 75,000 and of course it is going to rise further. If we assume that everyone that has been tested was seriously ill (not true but almost true) then something like 9% of those who are both seriously ill and have the coronavirus are going to die.

But we have little idea of what the overall mortality rate is, since in most areas those who are not seriously ill have not been tested.

The exception is the Diamond Princess cruise ship and now Iceland, which is the new world leader in per capita testing. But Iceland may not be particularly representative of what is going to happen to the rest of the world since from early on they were doing extensive contact tracing (much like South Korea).

Kyzer SoSay said...

ARM's first link is a major stretch. Blaming the governor for a system that was never designed to handle the staggering number of unemployment claims it's now being asked to process is weak sauce. The article is a stretch from the very first paragraph, attempting to pin the currently skyrocketing unemployment figures squarely on Trump. Weak sauce all around.

As for the rest, who gives a shit? Of course people approve of Fauci. They know Trump is listening to him and that gives them trust in his word. Duh.

And I've got some polls from 2016 that ARM might be interested in. Apparently Hillary is going win in a landslide!

Citing polling data THIS far out, in THIS wild situation the country is in, smacks of seriously low intelligence.

Drago said...

Xi's cuckholster ARM is now reposting the same distraction links from the other thread.

LOL

narciso said...

Now there was a certain realism to bsg adter such a devastating loss, but it didnt really appeal to me. The bbc snapped it up though. They dont believe in anything in former anglia.

Mark said...

This early zinc treatment presumably would not be pills, but topical -- zinc mouthwash, lozenges, nasal spray.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Speaking of Xi's cuckholster:

"Trump's call with Xi was March 27. His last use of phrase "Chinese virus" was on March 26, first at that day's White House briefing and then on the Hannity program that night. After taking to Xi - Trump stopped it."

Kyzer SoSay said...

Bill de Blasio literally implored his city to go out an celebrate Chinese New Year just as the virus was making it's presence known across the country. After all this is over, I bet New York City will still re-elect him as Mayor. Because those urban elites are so intelligent - or something.

Same with Pelosi in San Fran. Man, how I envy those enlightened, drug addled elites and their Khan-like superior intellect.

Mark said...

As many have said many times, worldometer is not showing the complete picture.

It's hard if not impossible to fully and accurately track this in real-time.

It won't be until a couple of years from now, in the perspective of history, that we can really see what happened when.

Kyzer SoSay said...

Trump stops using the term "Chinese flu" after what we can presume was a friendly call with Xi, after already using it more than enough to get his point across and still using tough rhetoric in other ways regarding Chinese misinformation about the virus, and that - somehow - means he's sucking up to Xi?

Honestly, I expected that Trump would stop calling it that eventually anyway. He already got his point across, and there was no need to beat a dead pangolin.

narciso said...

So six is like borg, she is programmed to assimilate to destroy, what was the illustrious baltars excuse. He plays a good villain, most recently in blood and sand, he played an amoral chRacter on the last season of eureka.

Ralph L said...

I'd like to know how many of these recent deaths had the HCQ treatment.

William said...

Dr. Brix had her moment at tonight's press conference. They asked her about her sick grandson. The child was running an extremely high fever. She was a doctor but she couldn't visit the child save by phone. No one could. The child was quartered with her ninety year old parents and her daughter so the quarantine was strict. The illness is apparently resolving but it was a vexing situation. Dr. Brix appeared to be worried, vulnerable and resolute. She's a good person.

Shouting Thomas said...

I watched Trump’s presser this evening. First time I’ve watched one of these shows.

Two takeaways.

1. The presser was incredibly entertaining and funny. Trump continually lectured reporters to behave themselves, to be positive about outcomes in the pandemic, and to stop trying to entrap him with gotcha questions.

2. The reporters kept asking Trump to commit to ever more draconian security procedures. He responded to them by lecturing them on his duty to obey constitutional restraints on his power, and on federalism, i.e., what powers properly should be exercised by the states.

The lefty press is now demanding that Trump be a dictator.

William said...

I thought the Admiral's response to the reporter's question about the IG report buried both the reporter and the IG. At any rate, there were no more follow up questions.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"The lefty press is now demanding that Trump be a dictator."

I suspect there are two competing reasons for this. First, most leftists admire dictators and would happily live under the "right kind of dictatorship", so there is some yearning there. Second, if Trump does institute more draconian measures, it gives them more ammo to blame Trump for the inevitable economic disruptions.

mandrewa said...

Iceland is reporting that they have 1486 people who have been infected. Unlike elsewhere this may be close to the true number that are infected.

Half of these people have no symptoms. And that's completely consistent with the Diamond Princess cruise ship data.

Iceland currently has 22 severe cases (including 4 deaths).

Now what would be interesting to know is the number of people in Iceland who have the coronavirus and who have or had pneumonia. That would roughly correspond to the US case count, and from that we could estimate what the actual US case count is.

Iceland is not formally practicing social distancing. Large gatherings have been banned and they are discouraging air travel.

Big Mike said...

In 1971 a young draftee (me!) completed his tour of duty and began to attend graduate school on the GI Bill. Also a one-hit wonder named Jonathan Edwards release a aong called "Sunshine," which became a sort of an anthem for many of us Boomers.

More and more I listen to the Democrats, and read comments from fools like ARM, and the chorus of that song becomes more and more appropriate:

"How much does it cost? I'll buy it.
The time is all we've lost, I'll try it.
He can't even run his own life,
I'll be damned if he'll run mine."

Especially that last part.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"I'd like to know how many of these recent deaths had the HCQ treatment."

As would I. There are some doctors, including one linked at Instapundit, that are still skeptical, but the trial data they have were for treatment regimes that didn't include zinc. Zinc is apparently the key to getting it working fast. Other sources claim that someone who is on death's door when the treatment begins absolutely NEED the extra zinc because their body has depleted the serum zinc levels it normally maintains in the blood in the effort of fighting off the disease and manufacturing new red blood cells.

Howard said...

ARM: Your barfing up the wrong tree. Trump is winning 24/7 kicking libtard ass in the CYA public relations game over the hearts and minds of his deplorable faithful. That's why scream for everyone to get back to work.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire

Drago said...

Xi's Cuckholster ARM has his one moronic and hopelessly weak talking point and he clings to it like a Tiananmen-Rose spokesperson.

You know whats really funny?

All Xi's Cuckholster ARM has to do is admit he knowingly used ChiCom propaganda to attack Trump and that, in retrospect, that was wrong.

But he can't do that.....ever.

So its double/triple/n-tuple down on his previous Xi Cuckholstery lies.

#Sad

Kyzer SoSay said...

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire"

That certainly explains all the dead civilians from Leftist revolutions in Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. It explains James Hodgkinson pretty well too.

William said...

I was watching MSNBC when the story broke that Boris Johnson was admitted to the ICU. Brian Williams pointed out that Boris Johnson was obese and that might jeopardize his survival. He seemed to relish the thought. He asked the London correspondent who was covering the story if many people in England blamed Johnson for their current peril because of his lackadaisical early response to the spread of the virus.......I know MSNBC are propagandists rather than journalists, but to make their cover story credible don't they have to do a better job than this?

Kyzer SoSay said...

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire"

Explains Planned Parenthood too, and the cult of mutilating your child because he asked to dress as a princess after watching Frozen.

Shouting Thomas said...

@Howard

I know you’re just having fun playing the troll.

Trump is winning by doing a good job, by standing up there and taking every question from a hostile press, by just being an all around good guy and doing the right thing.

This is a tough time, Howard. It’s time for you to drop the silly act and be charitable and decent. Get your jollies doing something else.

Howard said...

Thank God that the Deep State adults are in charge while Trump is relegated to being a loud and obnoxious backseat driver whom is mostly ignored. He has finally hit his best approximation of Presidential stride.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"I know MSNBC are propagandists rather than journalists, but to make their cover story credible don't they have to do a better job than this?"

Nope. Because most of their audience was waiting for these questions with glee, and are fervently hoping that BoJo is shuffled off his mortal coil by the WuhuFlu. They're hoping the same for Trump right this very second.

But they're the good, tolerant, and caring ones - and don't let anyone tell you different!

Shouting Thomas said...

And, now, we return to our usual programming of trying to score points and get off over some silly online argument.

Have at it Howard.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"Thank God that the Deep State adults are in charge"

Except they're not. The Deep State didn't want hydroxychloroquine being used at all. And now it is, and we're seeing success. Even Cuomo is singing it's praises.

Pay more attention, kiddo.

Ken B said...

A word of caution about chloroquine
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/04/06/hydroxychloroquine-update-for-april-6
Most discussion of chloroquine has become very stupid, a proxy for Trump's prestige.

Shouting Thomas said...

Howard, really, I know what is eating at you.

You’re jealous of Trump’s wealth, power, position and his woman.

And, you think it should be yours.

That’s not going to happen, Howard. Trump is going to win a second term and you’re going to lose and continue to fester in jealousy.

Accept that he’s a better man than you. You’ll find some peace in that.

Howard said...

This is me being charitable and nice, Thomas. It must be all that calming pranayam exercises.

Drago said...

Howard: "Thank God that the Deep State adults are in charge while Trump is relegated to being a loud and obnoxious backseat driver whom is mostly ignored."

LOLOLOL

Except for that Transform the Entire US Pandemic Response strategy, tactics, processes and partnerships.

Other than that, Howard is spot on!

Per usual.

Shouting Thomas said...

I’ll go out on a limb and say that, over the long haul, Trump will win this shadow war with China and its allies in the Deep State.

Howard said...

See you church Easter Sunday, Drago.

Ken B said...

William
For once I agree with Kyzer. NBC does not have to be more accurate *to appeal to their core audience*. At this point they could never win my trust of viewership, and aren’t after it. They play to their base, it’s their business model to do so.

Drago said...

Shouting Thomas: "I’ll go out on a limb and say that, over the long haul, Trump will win this shadow war with China and its allies in the Deep State."

Trump has been winning it thus far and Xi's only hope now is to work with Team Dem/LLR-dem to get Trump out of there so things can return to "normal".)

Mark said...

They just keep coming --

NOW on Charge, they are starting a run of Magnum P.I. -- the real one.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Ken B said...
A word of caution about chloroquine
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/04/06/hydroxychloroquine-update-for-april-6
Most discussion of chloroquine has become very stupid, a proxy for Trump's prestige.


Thanks for posting this. While it is mainly just fun and games here, a fact-free zone, it is worthwhile touching base with reality every now and then.

Shouting Thomas said...

I thought Trump’s best moment tonight was when he said that he wants to find a way to salvage the career of that Navy captain.

Trump is a good guy.

narciso said...

Starting with the pilot, which went back to vietnam, not sugar coating put painting an honorable picture of service fron that wra.

Drago said...

Mark: "NOW on Charge, they are starting a run of Magnum P.I. -- the real one"

The estate used for "Robin Masters" series estate was actually torn down in the last several years and a new estate is being built there.

Shouting Thomas said...

Oh, for Christ’s sake, ARM, you’re even more of a jealous egotist than Howard.

Facts my ass.

I’ve seldom met a man more afire with malice and jealousy than you.

Jealousy over Trump is tearing you apart.

Howard is just a fool having some fun. You’re a vicious lout.

Howard said...

Exactly Ken B. Market fragmentation. It's why you get so much push back for marching to a alternative band. Your crime is that you are not choosing a "side".

Kyzer SoSay said...

"A word of caution about chloroquine
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/04/06/hydroxychloroquine-update-for-april-6
Most discussion of chloroquine has become very stupid, a proxy for Trump's prestige."

The author of this article, Derek Lowe, is a rapid TDS-er. And the trial he writes about, which I already alluded to above, did NOT include zinc in the treatment. Therefore, I regard those results as not applicable, because it's already been shown that zinc is very important for the HCQ to work it's magic, especially in advanced cases, which most of these trial subjects were.

I bet if he redid the trial, right now with those same patients, and added zinc, he'd get a different result. I hope he does.

Drago said...

Xi's Cuckholster ARM: "Thanks for posting this. While it is mainly just fun and games here, a fact-free zone, it is worthwhile touching base with reality every now and then."

Shorter: Stupid doctors in every country around the globe including the US.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"a fact-free zone"

I note that nobody has challenged the facts I posted above. Closest to come was Ken B with his rival link, and I already covered the issues with those results.

Or am I not dumbing myself down enough for ARM et al. to understand?

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

It's lucky for Howard that I am here. I make him look good. As ever, I am serving a valuable social role.

Mark said...

We've hit viral overload.

Where is Pants to change the subject and talk about food??

Somebody light up the Pants Signal.

narciso said...

Hillermam was interesting? Since he had previously been the corrupt property appraiser in chinatown

Shouting Thomas said...

Indeed, you are serving a valuable social role, ARM.

It’s instructive to observe your delusions of grandeur.

And, people need to learn to deal with underhanded backstabbers like you.

You encounter a lot of them in life.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Did I mention that Xi's cuckholster did this? What a fucking pussy.

"Trump's call with Xi was March 27. His last use of phrase "Chinese virus" was on March 26, first at that day's White House briefing and then on the Hannity program that night. After taking to Xi - Trump stopped it."

Drago said...

Kyser: "The author of this article, Derek Lowe, is a rapid TDS-er. And the trial he writes about, which I already alluded to above, did NOT include zinc in the treatment."

This is what doctors across the US who are using this treatment have been insisting is necessary.

But Ken B and Xi's Cuckholster ARM say otherwise, so, you know. You'll have to choose a side to believe: the doctors on the front lines using it or....Xi's pal ARM.

You know, after some deep refection, I'll go with the doctors on the ground. They tend to be less enamored of Beijing proclamations.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"Your crime is that you are not choosing a "side"."

Hilariously wrong. The crime is inciting panic and pushing for ultra-restrictive, economy-killing containment measures in a one-size fits all manner.

And the sentence is 10+ million unemployed Americans.

Our leftist trolls and Covidiot alarmists are cool with that though. None of the elites lost their jobs, and their hedge funds are just fine. And all those newly-unemployed inner city blacks will vote D anyway, so who cares?

narciso said...

It was a good noir although polanskis hood was more ruthless than many of the villains in chandler

Bay Area Guy said...

Some numbers without argument - but 2 Questions:

1. Nearly 50% of the Covid-19 epidemic is now in New York. There are 4,700 deaths there which is about 244 deaths per Million.

2. In contrast, California which is nearly double the population of NY has only 380 deaths -- only 10 deaths per Million.

3. Question: Why the huge difference?

4. Here's the data put out by New York City (so blame them, not me, if you don't like it.)

New York City Covid-19

5. Check out the Daily Data Summary for Deaths.

6. Check out the columns "Underlying Conditions" and "No Underlying Conditions."

The large majority of total deaths in NYC (2700) have significant "underlying conditions" including: Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immune Deficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, and GI/Liver Disease.

7. These diseases kill A HELUVA lot more Americans each year than flu or covid-19.

8. These are co-morbidities. They can kill you with or without the virus.

9. Question 2: How are the NYC health authorities differentiating between the folks who died of these dangerous, but common illnesses, and this new virus?

Mark said...

Oh, the bad guy -- he looks like a bad guy -- is one of bad guys on JAG.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"What a fucking pussy."

Tripling down on ignorance, are we? Not a great look on most, but par for the course with ARM.

Howard said...

It's cool that the wicked scared Trumper's are gobbling up all the chloroquine so that lupus suffers can enjoy their increased flare-ups.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

In serving such a valuable social role I am almost a social 'scientist', and as an almost social scientist, I am almost an MD, an in this capacity I know more about drug trials than actual MDs. I think that's clear enough.

Drago said...

Hey, Xi's Cuckholster ARM, tell us more about the ChiComs "generosity" in sending purposely malfunctioning ventilators and faulty masks around the globe.

Oh how ARM went on and on and on in his praise of the ChiComs.

Over weeks and weeks.

Even AFTER the equipment was exposed as defective!

Thats how you separate yourself from the pack of ChiCom propagandists, right ARM!

LOL

narciso said...

Loggia i dont think he was ever on jag, he did a horrible accent on scarface, only matched by f murray abraham

Shouting Thomas said...

Oh, well, ARM, enjoy your night. How long will you be here?

I’d conservatively estimate 2 a.m. What else have you got to do?

Good night. I’m going to go play some guitar.

Drago said...

Howard: "It's cool that the wicked scared Trumper's are gobbling up all the chloroquine so that lupus suffers can enjoy their increased flare-ups."

Oh look! Howard has stumbled in and wants to pretend to understand supply chains!

Could this night get any better?

Drago said...

"I’d conservatively estimate 2 a.m. What else have you got to do?"

ARM will stay as long as it takes to defend the honor of his ChiCom heroes.

Howard said...

What does Mr Black Swan Nassim Nicholas Taleb say about getting back to work Kaiser Sozay? Is he another Chinacuckholster Deep State hack press libtard?

Kyzer SoSay said...

"It's cool that the wicked scared Trumper's are gobbling up all the chloroquine so that lupus suffers can enjoy their increased flare-ups."

Apparently Howard would rather have people die from a lack of blood oxygen than allow one person to have a slightly achy day.

Good to know, really.

"I think that's clear enough."

All the clarity of a statement from Joe Biden, so you've got that on your side!

Mark said...

He's the one that killed Lt. Singer.

walter said...

Fucking Italians buying into Trump snake oil

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Only the best people:

'It's just wrong': Donald Trump trashes inspector general who found 'severe' shortages of supplies at hospitals and smears her as an 'Obama appointee' - even though HE promoted her

Shouting Thomas said...

I know more about drug trials than actual MDs. I think that's clear enough.

What a fucking buffoon!

In addition to being a professional musician, I worked as a multimedia artist and programmer on drug trials for five years for Pfizer and WebMd. I developed the multimedia database that Pfizer’s scientists used for international distribution of info on their drug trials.

Jesus Christ, but you’re a dumb ass with the most hilarious delusions of grandeur, ARM.

On another day, when I’ve got some time, I’ll have a talk with you about the methodology of drug trials, idiot. That should be hilarious.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"What does Mr Black Swan Nassim Nicholas Taleb say"

Never heard of her. So I don't care.

narayanan said...

I am confused

doctors are proscribing >< prescribing?

Shouting Thomas said...

Is there any limit to your pompous asshole delusions of grandeur, ARM?

That bit was funny as hell, and now I gotta go, fool.

narciso said...

Yes ww k stratton, he was a cookie cutter character, going back to bellisariod black sheep squadron

Ken B said...

Howard
Thank you for seeing that.

Mark said...

He's got a slimy face.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"doctors are proscribing >< prescribing?"

I quoted someone above who typed "proscribing" but didn't bother to correct the copy/paste typo. Pretty sure we're all saying "prescribing" in this thread, but I could be wrong.

wild chicken said...

barfing up the wrong tree.


Say what

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Looks like a mutiny to me. Glad Trump will stand strong against these mutinous sailors.

'Shut the F*** up': What one sailor shouted when Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly flew to Guam and told fired aircraft carrier's captain's crew their hero 'was too naive or too stupid to be a commanding officer'

Or, ... maybe not.

Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly APOLOGIZES for calling fired USS Roosevelt captain 'naive' and 'stupid' in speech to his coronavirus-stricken ship's crew - after Trump said he would 'look into' his dismissal

Drago said...

narayanan: "I am confused

doctors are proscribing >< prescribing?"

Howard and Xi's Cuckholster ARM would very much like all the doctors around the globe who have been and continue to prescribe HCQ/Az to stop doing that.

It's not yet clear why that is, though I'm sure if I rifle through recent Beijing press releases I might be able to come up with an answer.

Narr said...

Superb sunrise! Like a blast-off.

Have to rise early tomorrow and get to Sam's by 7 at least--special wheezy geezer hours 7 - 9am.

I'm headed bedward but since we have so many movie and actor experts (I have my niches) here's a pop quiz:

The actor's iconic TV character has been mentioned several times recently. He enjoyed a brief time as an international star, appearing with another famous American character actor in a war epic in 1964.

No IMDBing!

Narr
OK, you can look after you count to a hundred and I'll grade tomorrow

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Shouting Thomas said...
I’m going to go play some guitar
... badly.

Howard said...

You see them vacillate between it's only killing the nearly dead to we need Trump's silver bullet if we're going to survive.

Guildofcannonballs said...

One of the best nights I ever had, back then, was I wasn't there for the big blow-up.

Repeat.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"I’m going to go play some guitar ... badly."

He plays better than you type, ARM. An admittedly low bar, but ST clears it with a mile to spare.

Drago said...
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Howard said...

You heard what I said

Drago said...

Xi's Cuckholster ARM: "'Shut the F*** up': What one sailor shouted when Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly flew to Guam and told fired aircraft carrier's captain's crew their hero 'was too naive or too stupid to be a commanding officer'"

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

That is the very very first time a member of the US military ever cursed a high ranking officer or civilian official!

The very first time.

It's never happened before.

So very unprecedented!

Xi's Cuckholster ARM thinks this is somehow dispository!

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

I am getting old. Did I mention that Xi's cuckholster did this?

"Trump's call with Xi was March 27. His last use of phrase "Chinese virus" was on March 26, first at that day's White House briefing and then on the Hannity program that night. After taking to Xi - Trump stopped it."

Kyzer SoSay said...

"You see them vacillate between it's only killing the nearly dead to we need Trump's silver bullet if we're going to survive."

More bullshit. I am fully aware that the vast majority of cases are folks of advanced age with multiple debilitating comorbidities. But if this treatment will cure them, let's do it.

You appear to have a problem with that. Very concerning.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Babies being shook too hard is harder than my pea I call a brain can comprehend.

Thank you. God bless you and thank you.

Howard said...

Drago is a manage up guy. Fuck the enlisted men.

Drago said...

Howard: "You see them vacillate between it's only killing the nearly dead to we need Trump's silver bullet if we're going to survive."

Its revealing how desperate the dems/LLR-dems are for treatments to be ineffective and how triggered they become when effective treatments are deployed.

One is forced to ask: Why?

Howard said...

Your concern is noted

iowan2 said...

Media/Dems talking point demands the President listen to the medical experts.

One problem, President Trump got burned the last time he defered to the medical experts, and agreed to huge restrictions on Vaping. President Trumps instincts, told him to let the market market do its own policing.
Turns out, Vaping is not the problem, the illegal substances used in Vapers is the problem.

So, after the experts forced his hand once,(IT'S THE CHILDREN DAMN IT!)President Trump is back considering the motives of the experts while weighing all the relevant facts.

Guildofcannonballs said...

I can comprehend not torturing, just ending the threat.

Not that I've ever been called explicityly depending on definitions whatnot.

I only know it's rare, but real-time come-around go-around happens.

Drago said...

Howard: "Drago is a manage up guy. Fuck the enlisted men."

The enlisted men were put into danger by the CO of the ship exposing classified information related to the combat readiness of his vessel....to the Chinese...while on an operational cruise.

If any of those enlisted men had done the same they would already be in the brig and brought up on charges.

But Howard is totally cool with the double standard since it just might provide an additional avenue of attack against Trump.

Great job Two Tier System of Justice Howard! Well done!

Bay Area Guy said...

Cuomo says that Covid-19 deaths reaching apex.

The governor first suggested on Sunday that the dreaded apex may be upon New York, as daily deaths dropped, though it remains to be seen just how long the rate will plateau before entering a sustained decline.

Wake up, you delusional fuckheads! Time to celebrate this......cautious optimism.

Kyzer SoSay said...

January 31st, 2020 - Trump calls for a ban on travel from affected areas of China.

January 31st, 2020 - Joe Biden in Iowa: “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, and fear-mongering to lead the way instead of science.”

February 1st, 2020 - Joe Biden Twitter: "We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering."

Top men. Top. Men.

Drago said...

BAG: "Wake up, you delusional f***heads! Time to celebrate this......cautious optimism."

I don't think you understand.

Your goals and objectives are not the same as the dems/LLR-dems goals and objectives.

Howard said...

But the libtards in NYC are using Chloroquine to save Libtards from Coronavirus.

Drago said...

Howard: "But the libtards in NYC are using Chloroquine to save Libtards from Coronavirus."

They've got some nerve defying your's and ARM's directives on this.

narciso said...

Hillerman was also in blazing saddles a film you couldnt make today, it roasts too mamy sacred cows.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"One problem, President Trump got burned the last time he defered to the medical experts, and agreed to huge restrictions on Vaping."

A very good point. Not to mention that in general, over the past several centuries there have been more examples of the "experts" fucking things up than there have been of them getting things mostly right, especially where biology is concerned. I mean, they fucked up the Food Pyramid for Heaven's sake!

Howard said...

You people are getting too easy. The pandemic really has you ladies all atwitter. I'll stop picking on you. I'm going to play my skinflute.

Drago said...

Kyzer: " I mean, they fucked up the Food Pyramid for Heaven's sake!"

In their defense, they were well compensated to do just that.

Mark said...

Did they make any war epics in 1964?

Jon Ericson said...

*I found a picture of Howard and ARM*

Drago said...

Howard: "You people are getting too easy. The pandemic really has you ladies all atwitter. I'll stop picking on you. I'm going to play my skinflute."

Ah yes.

The old I meant that followed quickly by I win.

A true champion.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"But the libtards in NYC are using Chloroquine to save Libtards from Coronavirus."

Oh, Howie - so behind the times. Check the Detroit Free Press - a Michigan State Rep, who happens to be a black female Democrat, has gone on record crediting Trump's touting of hydroxychloroquine with saving her life from the WuhuFlu.

Expect her cancellation any day now by her former comrades and fellow travelers.

narciso said...

zulu i think, its an epic about an embarassing loss, for the british. Buthelezi played his grandfather.

Shouting Thomas said...

Taking a little break ARM.

I get paid to play guitar. I also got paid for my work in clinical trials.

If you’re such a fucking expert, why weren’t you making $75/hr. (as I did in 2002) to work on clinical trials?

I’ve met a lot of chucklehead experts like you, ARM, who can’t seem to get paid for their expertise.

Oddly, dimwit little fucks with delusions of grandeur like you don’t get paid. Why is that?

My reward for playing guitar is getting paid. Amazing, huh? My participation in clinical trials was rewarded by getting paid.

Back to playing. Because I get paid.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"I'm going to play my skinflute."

Howie's taking his ball and going home. What ever shall we do?

Drago said...

Mark: "Did they make any war epics in 1964?"

"Zulu".

You couldn't make that movie today either, no matter how many Victoria Crosses were awarded for the action.

Howard said...

Just wait until the Greta Thornburg food pyramid is mandatory. Soylent Green New Deal

Bay Area Guy said...

Chloroquine is an old drug. Not a big deal. It may not work for Covid-19, but the side effects are fairly mild. Give it a try!

Drago said...

Howard: "Just wait until the Greta Thornburg food pyramid is mandatory. Soylent Green New Deal"

Much better.

And funny.

And, scarily, all too true.

Mark said...

It's Erin's graduation and John-Boy gives the graduation speech.

She's got her hair up with flowers in her hair.

walter said...

Howie's trolling has gotten bolder since Inga taught him how to make a mask.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"zulu i think, its an epic about an embarassing loss, for the british"

Actually, Zulu is about the Battle of Rorke's Drift, a massive victory for the Brits in holding the defense of a mission station against a vastly superior force of Zulus.

You're thinking of Zulu Dawn, the later-released prequel about the Battle of Islandwhana, where a British supply convoy got massacred by that same group of Zulus a few days earlier.

Drago said...

BAG: "Chloroquine is an old drug. Not a big deal. It may not work for Covid-19, but the side effects are fairly mild. Give it a try!"

No no NO!!

Xi doesn't want that! And when Xi doesn't want something, ARM is never far behind.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Shouting Thomas said...
I get paid.


So did Stormy.

iowan2 said...

Fauci and Brix had to adjust after, what 3 days?

– All beds needed: Was 179,267 … Now is 90,353
– ICU beds needed: Was 33,176 … Now is 17,589
– Invasive ventilators: Was 26,544 … Now is 14,951

They cut their projections by almost HALF!… A

Last week I was listening to Rush and he had a caller, that is, and has been for 30 years, a statistical modeler. His opinion on these covid models was interesting, but he recited a truism used by him and his peers. "All models are wrong. Some models are useful."

Allowing blind models to carry so much influence, is proving to be dangerous.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

So terribly forgetful. Did I mention that Xi's cuckholster did this?

"Trump's call with Xi was March 27. His last use of phrase "Chinese virus" was on March 26, first at that day's White House briefing and then on the Hannity program that night. After talking to Xi - Trump stopped it."

Mark said...

a Michigan State Rep, who happens to be a black female Democrat, has gone on record crediting Trump's touting of hydroxychloroquine with saving her life from the WuhuFlu

And she was NOT happy that Michigan's Democrat governor, in an act of spite, had restricted use of the drug that save her life.

narciso said...

Yes thats it, flashman had one tale about the latter battle.

Guildofcannonballs said...

I've never understood how the great Cooper could take the time to be real with me.

Am I special? Beyond here at the Althouse blog?

Why not focus on influencers? For Real?

I know I know, but if others can start to comprehend why Laslo needs dough, and Althouse needs historic recognition, then we can grassly (IA) take back the House.

If we don't, weed oin'tment ,weedointment , keep the Senate, uh oh.

Uh oh. It can happen here. Here, here. Of all the blogs in the macro-verse, politics can happen here. Jokin' ain't I.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"You couldn't make that movie today either"

Hell no you couldn't!

"At one hundred yards . . . volley fire present . . . "
"Front rank, FIRE!"
"Rear rank, FIRE!"
"Top rank, FIRE!"

Howard said...

My only concern is the arrythmia potential. I'd like to have amiodarone handy just in case.

Drago said...

My God!!

Even Politico refuses to go along with Xi's Cuckholster ARM any longer!

"https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/04/china-fake-news-coronavirus-164652"

"How China’s fake news machine is rewriting the history of Covid-19, even as the pandemic unfolds"

Wow.

Does that ever make ARM look pathetic.

But then again, what doesn't?

Kyzer SoSay said...

"So did Stormy."

Yeah, but now she owes Trump more than she made for breaking her nondisclosure agreement.
Trump got paid to allegedly fuck a pornstar. Is there nothing he CAN'T do?

Guildofcannonballs said...

Buwaya never hated or disrespected your sentimentalism to your face.

Good for him. I'm sure he is well. I guarantee it.

Are you?

Kyzer SoSay said...

"My only concern is the arrythmia potential. I'd like to have amiodarone handy just in case."

Oh, NOW you wanna attempt reasonable discourse?
That ship sailed, kiddo. Go play with yourself like you know you want to. I bet that itch is getting unbearable.

Drago said...

Kyzer: "Is there nothing he CAN'T do?"

He's even got the democrat frontrunner to go along with his travel ban from China!! (though, admittedly, Slow Joe won't remember that by tomorrow)

Guildofcannonballs said...

Buwaya was correct in so many ways I found myself unable to respond intelligently.

Howard said...

Ok Verbal

Drago said...

Kyzer: "Is there nothing he CAN'T do?"

He's even got all the democrats passionately opposed to effective treatments for Kung Flu being used across the globe!

Mark said...

Erin's concerned -- now what do I do with my life?

The existential horror of the high school graduate.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Kyzer SoSay said...
Trump got paid to fuck a pornstar. Is there nothing he CAN'T do?


Actually, all the male pornstars are getting paid to fuck pornstars, that's how they make a living. Still, classier work than being a NYC developer.

Howard said...

Buwaya Puti should have stayed in California, he moved to Spain to avoid the Apocalypse. I hope he and his family are doing well.

Mark said...

Back then, plastics weren't that big yet.

Howard said...

What is "The Graduate"?

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

How is it that Demi Moore and Bruce Willis ended up with such plain looking children?

Michael K said...

My only concern is the arrythmia potential. I'd like to have amiodarone handy just in case.

Howard, have you ever had amiodarone? I've had it with stress tests. You feel like you are dying !

Go do it. It will be good for you.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Demi told me that Xi's cuckholster did this.

"Trump's call with Xi was March 27. His last use of phrase "Chinese virus" was on March 26, first at that day's White House briefing and then on the Hannity program that night. After talking to Xi - Trump stopped it."

Michael K said...

Lots of ARM comments. Good night.

reader said...

So Wisconsin votes...

walter said...

If I remember, Amiodarone is black box with severe side effect potential.

Kyzer SoSay said...

"Allowing blind models to carry so much influence, is proving to be dangerous."

Amen to that. You'd think we'd have realized this when every global warming model failed to live up to the hype surrounding them.

Howard said...

I was on amiodarone for 9 months when I had severe arrhythmia due to blunt-force trauma injury to the area around the SA node. 20 jumpstarts later and 2 ablations finally fixed it.

Howard said...

Yeah it's essentially a poison but it'll save your motherfuking life in a heartbeat

Howard said...

I think it's some sort of large organic molecule with tons of iodine attached to it

Howard said...

You see I'm such a good troll I know how to bring dock Mike to the surface

Kyzer SoSay said...

"Actually, all the male pornstars are getting paid to fuck pornstars"

Well then there you go. Trump has succeeded/made money in:
Real Estate
Resorts
Golf Courses
Television
Winning Elections
Boinking Porn Queens

I betcha Bill Clinton would trade every fiber of his being to lay Melania just once. The photos of him ogling her during the Inauguration ceremonies were priceless.

Sebastian said...

iowan2: "Fauci and Brix had to adjust after, what 3 days?

– All beds needed: Was 179,267 … Now is 90,353
– ICU beds needed: Was 33,176 … Now is 17,589
– Invasive ventilators: Was 26,544 … Now is 14,951"

Do you remember at what point in the press conference? Don't want to wade through he whole thing . . .

By the way, do we have any reputable models that turned out to require repeated adjustment upwards? If all the reputable models turned out to be either roughly correct (e.g., in predicting the rate of infections) or overstated (e.g., in assessment of health care needs, possibly CFR etc.), what would account for the bias in one direction only?

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Airlines want $50 billion bailout. They spent $45 billion buying back their stock.

mockturtle said...

This is one of those SOS threads. Same Old Shit.

Kyzer SoSay said...

Oh, and Trump is a bestselling author. And if you wanna play the ghostwriter card, I'll see you and raise you: Bill and Hill, Barack and Michelle, and probably Liz Warren too.

Howard said...

Models for public health are always designed to overestimate risk due to the uncertainty. You know the old story about how engineers over design stuff so when they say the weight limit is 300 pounds it's really a thousand

Howard said...

Mockturtle is having a hot flash.

Kyzer SoSay said...

Does Biden have a book out? Cuz you KNOW he didn't write that shit himself. Even if he typed it all out, he was just copying someone else's work.

Drago said...

Xi's Cuckholster ARM: "Airlines want $50 billion bailout. They spent $45 billion buying back their stock."

Yep.

They failed to plan for ChiCom viruses unleashed on the world.

Understandable, since there was always an army of ChiCom spokespersons assuring everyone that all was and is well with our ChiCom neighbors.

Interestingly enough, even AFTER it has become clear that the ChiCom's can't be trusted, there are still plenty of cuckholsters running around defending them.

Even a few at Althouseblog.

Drago said...

Kyzer SoSay: "Does Biden have a book out? Cuz you KNOW he didn't write that shit himself. Even if he typed it all out, he was just copying someone else's work."

As I understand it, there are 2 working title options: "Little Men" and "War and Peace and Other Stuff".

Howard said...

So why did Trump fire the pandemic expert who worked in the Beijing office back in 2018?

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Howard said...
So why did Trump fire the pandemic expert who worked in the Beijing office back in 2018?


Xi's Cuckholster.

Ken B said...

Speaking of movies, two remakes are in the offing according to a press release from Kyzer Pants Studios

They Were Expendable — the old John Wayne naval epic is to be remade as a tale of a grandmother visiting her grandchildren in New York

Throw Momma From The Train — Sometimes you need to cut expenses

Howard said...

Thanks for making me look so good.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Hey, keep away from Democractics, at all costs.

Unless the Government supplies you with everything/

Ohhoh teymaek yougo dare.

You gottq go.

Q

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Howard said...
Thanks for making me look so good.


Even the most humble among us has a role in this wonderful world.

For example, Xi's Cuckholster fired the pandemic expert who worked in the Beijing office back in 2018.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

That reminds me.


FullMoon said...

Howard said...

What is "The Graduate"?


It's a movie with Dustin Hoffman.

walter said...

Comey would like to share this

narciso said...

Actually around here there is a sizable cohort of fatalities in their 20s even into their 40s, the pattern changes from china and italy.

narciso said...

Based on the novel by charles webb, i can understand why hoffman fell for katherine ross.

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