February 22, 2020

The Beatles did it in the 1960s, and now...

"Donald Trump Is Going to India to Find Himself/Under Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India is the American president’s spiritual home: an inferno of systemic cruelty" — NYT headline.

Sample text:
Last September at a rock-concert-like rally at a Houston football stadium, Mr. Modi and Mr. Trump walked hand-in-hand, the two stocky strongmen looking like brothers-in-arms. Certainly, nowhere in the world can Mr. Trump encounter a profounder fraternal spirit than among India’s present rulers. India under them fulfills, to a startling degree, the American president’s irascible fantasy of what the United States should be: a country cravenly surrendering its traditions of law and decency before a perpetually inflamed and ham-handed autocrat....
Irascible Fantasy.... a good album title.

Has anyone ever written "irascible fantasy" before? I'm so entranced by the phrase that I do a Google search. I get 9 hits, including the current NYT article, which is the second hit. The first hit is:
"Oh Lucky Country," Rosa R. Cappiello - 2009 - ‎Australian fiction: "My interest-disinterest in the love-they-neighbor routine is poised on the outer fringes of my awareness. I never remember, to begin with, the place where visions run ceaselessly, frozen and mediocre. From the depths it is easy for me to reach into my irascible fantasy, to give it free rein, and if necessary, to isolate myself within it...."
Hit #3:
Lee Seung Gi's K-fanclub Mocks Up Smexy Hwayugi Posters ... koalasplayground.com › 2017/11/19 › lee-seung-gis-k-fanclub-mock... Nov 19, 2017 - He's set to play the (in)famous Monkey King Sun Wukong, and in this narrative he's the arrogant irascible fantasy being that's now living in the ...
Something about "Smexy" makes me afraid to click. I'll just look it up in Urban Dictionary. Oh! It means "Smart and sexy." Now, I'm not afraid to look up Monkey King Sun Wukong. Here's the Wikipedia article on the subject... with this photograph:



I'm far afield from India now, so let's move on.

Hits #4-9 all seem like spam, with "irascible" joining "fantasy" pretty randomly: "important health address to an irascible fantasy springs casino fireworks customer," "my favorite memory and irascible fantasy i love your new video's," "that is why the 2 Net wigs do irascible fantasy except in the recent book book."

Welcome to Saturday! May all your fantasies be as irascible as you want them to be. Good morning!

94 comments:

David Begley said...

But what about this speculation about what is in Trump’s mind? “of what the United States should be....”

The Fake News just speculates and dishes opinion as fact all day long.

Shouting Thomas said...

Prez Trump's real irascible fantasy seems to be for everybody to have a job.

Temujin said...

Many of us have viewed Obama as a blank slate. He seemed to be whatever the perceiver wanted him to be. To me he seemed like an empty suit. He wore a suit well. He spoke beautifully. But he usually said nothing. Occasionally he would slip in utter nonsense and when called on it ("you can keep your doctor") the press and half the nation rushed forward to cover for him.

Trump seems to me to be anything but a blank slate. Yet I think the professional Left in particular, but the Left in general sees Trump as an empty vessel into which they can pour their own hates, prejudices, and fears. They seem to see an array of things in Trump that are just not there. They hear his jokes (bad as they may be) and perceive them as straight comments. They see his crowd of enthusiastic people as raving Nazis. His wife as ugly and dumb. His kids as Nazi youth. His economic policies, which have clearly done more to free up business than the previous 5 Presidents, as favoring the rich. His America First approach as nativist and xenophobe instead of a natural way of thinking for any country, any country leader around the world.

Not sure how the Left got to be so self-hating and America hating. No, actually, I am quite sure how it happened. But that's another story for another time. For now, I just glance at articles like this and wonder what window these people are viewing the world from?

Fernandinande said...

The NYeT is just silly.

Hagar said...

That is some language for The NYT to use about India.

rhhardin said...

It's Trump's long attraction to Andy's Gang (TV, 50s).

rhhardin said...

The left is a safe space for crazy people.

traditionalguy said...

Good morning America. Another day to enjoy being a perpetually inflamed ham handed autocrat. Try it, you will like it.

Fernandinande said...

Has anyone ever written "irascible fantasy" before?

It sounds like a mistake: easily angered fantasy. Do fantasies have emotions?

If it's not a mistake, then it might be poetic, which is a different kind of mistake.

born01930 said...

Althouse is the Scrubbing Bubbles of the internet. She does the work so we don’t have toooooo

SGT Ted said...

"Not sure how the Left got to be so self-hating and America hating. No, actually, I am quite sure how it happened."

The left has always hated those who are openly pro-America. They talked about Reagan, Bush and Bush the same way as they talk about Trump.

They love and support those who have the irascible fantasy about America being a fundamentally flawed and hateful place that can only be fixed by instituting anti-American Socialist and Communist policies.

J2 said...

This reminds me

One of the frequent posters left a quote that I intended to remember forever and use as needed. I forgot it.
But it was something along the lines of "a pathetic cabaret of the macabre" actually the only word I sure was in there was "cabaret"
Many commenters admired the phraseology.

I should have written it down. Anybody?

rehajm said...

a country cravenly surrendering its traditions of law and decency

It's the left that's abandoned law - they release criminals to avoid the immigration feds....and permitting people to live and defecate in the street is not decency.

SGT Ted said...

The entire history and essence of the left is hatred for Western society and individual liberty. They are wanna-be autocrats and totalitarians.

rehajm said...

The NYT is more palatable if you imagine the sitar in the background while reading it. That's probably racist...

Amadeus 48 said...

Americans who refuse to click on NYT want to know: was this a news story or did it appear in the opinion section.

I assume it was in opinion, but with NYT you never know.

And was it a chap with an Indian name who wrote it? Did he have an axe to grind? He sounds like a loser to me.

I celebrate my irascible fantasies and my deplorability.

Deplorables of the world! Unite! You have nothing to lose but your guns, your religion, and your bitterness!

SGT Ted said...

"a country cravenly surrendering its traditions of law and decency"

Calling everyone who dissents from the NYT ideological bubble racists, sexists, bigots homophobes, cousin fuckers, Nazis and Russian stooges is what passes for "decency" at the NYT.

traditionalguy said...

The big operation by Soros to destroy his hated enemy, America, is to buy( a la Bloomberg) all of the District Attorney powers at local levels and then refuse to enforce law. The result is total lawlessness and police under attack with no support.

Heartless Aztec said...

NYT is forever irascabley fantazing about something or another.

William said...

Niggardly is not a racial slur. Irascible does not mean irritable racist but the NYT has no objections if such connotations form in your mind. Language is fluid.....Bernie has a rich fantasy life, but his fantasies would never be described as irascible. Impassioned is more the word that springs to mind.

Fernandinande said...

pretty randomly: "important health ...

That portion of that one actually makes sense: an irascible customer of Fantasy Springs Casino.

"to an irascible fantasy springs casino fireworks customer" (casino/fireworks link is dead - here)

Will Cate said...

Just last night George Harrison's Beatles B-side "The Inner Light" came up on my rando playlist. And I thought, "India, wow... what would have happened to the Beatles if, by some quirk of fate, they'd never gone to India, never done all the Maharishi stuff."

stevew said...

Good morning!

"irascible fantasy" is noteworthy, a kind of high-falutin' insult. I was struck more by "strongmen" and "a country cravenly surrendering its traditions of law and decency".

These people are insane.

Sebastian said...

""India is the American president’s spiritual home: an inferno of systemic cruelty" — NYT headline."

Prog Orientalism in the service of TDS.

gspencer said...

"Are you really the head of Quik-E Mart?"
"yes"
"Really?"
"You?"
"Yes. Thank you, come again"

"The Master knows all, except the combination to the safe"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf3xwmXXDH8

Owen said...

“Irascible fantasy” is deservedly rare IMHO, because it is an awkward mouthful of syllables and semantically damaged. By which I mean, “irascible” means “susceptible to becoming angry,” thus it can only modify a human or at least a living thing: not an inanimate entity such as a “fantasy.” A fantasy can’t experience anger or any other emotion.

This is just sloppy pretentious phrasing by journalists whose prose cries out for an intervention.

Wilbur said...

It's all part of my irascible fantasy.

Wilbur said...

Nothing says lovin' like Monkey King Sun Wutong.
And Pillsbury says it best.

Wilbur said...

These are consecutive mornings our blog host has greeted us with a picture that made me take sharp notice. Pictures that jumped out at me like a treble sound on AM radio. Very smexy.

tcrosse said...

It's fantastic irascibility.

Fernandinande said...

Speaking of shitholes and thusly of snowflakes and regular flakes -

The state University at Albany is investigating whether an off-campus coronavirus-themed party violated the college's student code of conduct, the university confirmed Thursday."

Asian American Alliance, a university student organization, condemned the party hosted by students last weekend, saying it was insensitive and racist.
...
a bucket of iced Corona beers and a person wearing a surgical mask with the caption, “Corona virus isn't gonna stop anyone from partying.”
[oh the horror]

“The theme of this party was distasteful and hurtful and is not representative of UAlbany or its nearly 18,000 students,” university officials said in a statement. “Any allegations of conduct violations will be investigated and addressed through the University's disciplinary process."


Apparently each and every student party must represent nearly 18,000 people so they can have an appropriate amount of officially approved "fun".

Johnathan Birks said...

Starting to worry about you, perfesser...

Skeptical Voter said...

I look at this language "inferno of systemic cruelty" and "perpetually irascible and ham handed" and I have two thoughts.

First, whoever wrote it must have been smoking some pretty strong stuff.

As for the second thought, a phrase comes to mind from one of my drill instructors back in basic training at Ft. Polk in the summer of 1969, "I've got a case of the natural Russian Red Ass"! Anybody who is capable of such silly, irrational, raging nonsense as the writer has a case of same--or has been communing with Adam Schiff.

Beasts of England said...

’...what would have happened to the Beatles if, by some quirk of fate, they'd never gone to India, never done all the Maharishi stuff.’

They’d have missed out on some musical inspiration: Dear Prudence, Bungalow Bill, Sexy Sadie - all present at the compound. Of course, Sexy Sadie was the Maharishi himself - even the Fab Four were afraid of a slander lawsuit.

Leland said...

No Trump Derangement Syndrome tag?

Wilbur said...

"I've got a case of the natural Russian Red Ass"! made me laugh out loud.

Beasts of England said...

*Maharishi was the song’s original title. Sing Maharishi instead of Sexy Sadie and the whole thing makes sense...

Browndog said...


Adam Townsend
‏ @adamscrabble

�� Thread about Trump visiting Modi. This could be an “Indian Reset”, diplomacy that reshapes geopolitics, finance, trade & defense.
"News" won't tell you if the result is good, but we can count on them to tell us anything bad, so here's the explain'r.


India is the most desirable swap for China, with an assist its supply chain, it can be quickly scaled up, made bigger and denser and more efficient than its rivals. Currently, demand is beyond India’s existing capacity.

Chris N said...

‘Donald Trump, face smeared an orangey-gold sheen of smug, emerged as would a fascist dictator from Air Force One today, On the tarmac of Mumbai’s busiest airport, one could observe hand gestures conveying racist, sexist and misogynistic thoughts.

After a few minutes of ignoring this valiant reporters’ cries, both leaders absconded to discuss economics, trade and global security. Sources say Trump fidgeted with the curtains, requested a Big Mac while ogling an aide, and is rumored to have looked Modi in the eye and asked: ‘so you guys eat boiled monkey brains or what?’

-Scoops McCloskey (The People’s Pen, Worker’s Daily, China Times, Pravda, The NY Times).

Rory said...

I thought the monkey's flexed leg was a pee pee.

gilbar said...

Amadeus 48 said...
was this a news story or did it appear in the opinion section.


Don't you remember? at the start of the Trump Administration, the NYT's placed an Opinion piece ON THE FRONT PAGE, and THAT Opinion piece Explicitly Stated, that there WOULD NO LONGER BE ANY SEPARATION OF Opinion, and "News"

Mary Beth said...

That monkey king in the photo has none of the irascible fantasy of Lee Seung Gi's. I tried to find a good still from the show, but the screenshots don't capture it.

That blog post was from before the show aired, so it had more to do with expectations than with the actual performance - The show is in the fantasy genre and his roles often have an impish quality. Still, it did end up being a pretty accurate description of his monkey king.

"A Korean Odyssey" is on Netflix.

gilbar said...

among India’s present rulers. India under ... a country cravenly surrendering its traditions of law and decency before a perpetually inflamed and ham-handed autocrat....

Serious Question
IF President Trump had said something like that, about a foreign country; would he have gotten in trouble from the NYT's, for saying it?

Fernandinande said...

Wanting to learn more about their strange and wonderful culture from which we can probably learn some stuff, I did teh google on [monkeys of indiana] and got this -

"Indiana Free classifieds ads online to sell your Monkeys."

Jaq said...

This is what the subscribers to the New York Times want, anti Trump phantasmagoria.

Jaq said...

Remember all of those refugees from Obama’s wars, the ones who swamped the EU from Syria? The ones who drowned as their fleeing ships capsized by the weight of humanity fleeing the the tender ministrations of Hillary in Libya? The farce who launched a thousands ships? That Hillary?

But Trump is an irascible tweeter, so that’s worse!

Jaq said...

Orange man bad because he is popular with those Americans that we don’t like and think should just shut up and not vote!

DB said...

”Irascible fantasy” should suggest a fantasy about being irascible. Not that a fantasy is irascible. How would that be? Trump might be irascible that his fantasy is opposed, but the fantasy is not irascible. Oh, and the author’s “Certainly” is, as my contract professor used to say, “where the horse is buried!”

Jaq said...

They don’t know what is best for them anyways the way we do here in Brooklyn, Cambridge, Ann Arbor, and San Fransisco!

Browndog said...

On the tarmac of Mumbai’s busiest airport, one could observe hand gestures conveying racist, sexist and misogynistic thoughts.

Perfect.

Jaq said...

"”Irascible fantasy” should suggest a fantasy about being irascible”

I get the feeling that the writer didn’t look up the word’s definition before using it because they liked how it sounded.

Laslo Spatula said...

To keep the Beatles angle: Double Irascible Fantasy.

I am Laslo.

AllenS said...

... and who could forget that Beatles song "I Want to Hold Your Irascible Fantasy".

Karen of Texas said...

Weird. I got sidetracked by "irascible" and ended up on "rascal" - as in "that little rascal" which then lead me down the rabbit hole to Our Gang (Little Rascals) - cute, likeable kids. And then "that rascally wabbit" popped into my head. Bugs was always one up on Elmer. So irascible lead me to Trump being a rascal in the "behaves badly but likable" sense.

So, fail on the "irascible fantasy" and leading me down the Trump is so awful, like those awful Indian leaders path.

Ann Althouse said...

"Just last night George Harrison's Beatles B-side "The Inner Light" came up on my rando playlist. And I thought, "India, wow... what would have happened to the Beatles if, by some quirk of fate, they'd never gone to India, never done all the Maharishi stuff."

That made me think of old Roger McGuinn lyric:

Hey Mr.L. so you want me to yell
To howl at the moon when I'm losin' my grip
Without no possesions and findin' myself
The picture of mental and physical health
But I'm still payin' dues for that Indian trip
And I know what you mean and it sure rings a bell
But oh Mr.L. I'm so restless

Ann Althouse said...

Listen to "I'm So Restless" here.

Ann Althouse said...

Smexy Sadie, what have you done?
You made a fool of everyone
You made a fool of everyone
Smexy Sadie, ooh, what have you done?
Smexy Sadie, you broke the rules
You laid it down for all to see
You laid it down for all to see
Smexy Sadie, ooh, you broke the rules
One sunny day the world was waiting for a lover
She came along and turned on everyone
Smexy Sadie, the greatest of them all
Smexy Sadie, how did you know
The world was waiting just for you
The world was waiting just for you
Smexy Sadie, ooh, how did you know
Smexy Sadie, you'll get yours yet
However big you think you are...

It's really about Donald Trump.

virgil xenophon said...

Surprised AA didn't recall the old poem about "the wise old Owl":

"A wise old Owl sat in an Oak. The more he heard the less he spoke.The less he spoke the more he heard: Why can't we all be like that old bird?"

(I first heard it from my maternal grandfathers lips in late forties/early fifties.)

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

That is some language for The NYT to use about India.

I thought the same thing, checked the byline, and reminded myself that elite Indians can be oikophobes too. It's like Ian McEwan talking about England.

Paco Wové said...

"...Asian American Alliance, a university student organization, condemned the party hosted by students last weekend, saying it was insensitive and racist."

I like how the condemnation reads like it was written by somebody in the Chinese government.

virgil xenophon said...

What Temujn@6:44AM and rhhardin@6:48AM, above, said!!!!

Will Cate said...

Ann Althouse said: "That made me think of old Roger McGuinn lyric:"

Hah! Funny... thank you.

virgil xenophon said...

And what Aunty Trump said@8:09AM as well....in SPADES!!!

narciso said...

indeed


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/the-week-in-pictures-caucausoid-caucus-edition.php

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Will Cate said...

Beasts of England said: "They’d have missed out on some musical inspiration..."

Oh yes, I know the Fabs history backwards & forwards... Some of Abbey Road side 2 came from India also.

I was more wondering what would have been, rather than what would been lost.

narciso said...

Mishra, as a guide to india, snorfle, it's as apt as nick Kristof about the us,

JAORE said...

Deplorables of the world! Unite! You have nothing to lose but your guns, your religion, and your bitterness!

Don't forget your doctor.

Ralph L said...

The NYT doesn't want Indians to undercut Mexican labor.

chuck said...

a country cravenly surrendering its traditions of law and decency before a perpetually inflamed and ham-handed autocrat...

Just the facts, Ma'am.

narciso said...

now this is the same paper, that published that craven apologia for the haqquani clan, what two days ago.

narciso said...

and recall who they are:

https://www.counterextremism.com/threat/haqqani-network

Ken B said...

Is an inferno of systemic cruelty better or worse than a shithole country?

narciso said...

now isi's pawn Imran khan, doesn't get the same treatment,

Drago said...

Laslo Spatula: "To keep the Beatles angle: Double Irascible Fantasy."

Trump has certainly fomented Helter Skelter amongst the dems seeking to garner the nomination.

And the nation sits and observes the dems as those watches that stopped working under obama's and the dems "leadership" glare picked right back up again upon Trump's election and Happy Warrior policies.

Its enough to make our resident lefties carve symbols into their foreheads and make pilgrimages to Brian Wilson's house.

Mattman26 said...

The “two stocky strongmen?” These people are out of their fucking minds. Has anyone clicked through to see if this supposed to be news, or analysis, or irascible opinion?

Drago said...

Apologies to Laslo.

I was not clever enough to work in a subreference to Vincent Bugliosi.

Jaq said...

This story will be offered as “evidence” that Trump is a corrupt strongman in the future.

Mattman26 said...

He’s a pretty lousy strongman. Somebody wake me up once Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff and Nadler are under house arrest.

Mal said...

This is what happened when Shape of You hit India

https://youtu.be/mslf1Q5c1os

I look forward to the Donald breaking out into song & dance once he hits the Indian tarmac.

Gk1 said...

I've always marveled what a missed opportunity it was to have such rocky relations with India, one of the worlds largests democracies, while we write blank checks for the Taliban creating Pakistani's. That's totally weird to me. If Trump can change that more power to him. That the NYT would write a pissy article about Trump is a dog bites man story. Zzzzzzz. So predicatble.

Jaq said...

"That the NYT would write a pissy article about Trump is a dog bites man story.”

The New York Times is the CIA company newsletter for America.

hombre said...

“... the American president’s spiritual home: an inferno of systemic cruelty.“

The NYT appears to have an endless supply of “journalists” willing to expose their own infantile fantasies to its remaining infantile readers. I have a lovely neighbor, a retired professional, who gets her “news” from the NYT and WaPo. It is astonishing how ill-informed, close- minded and incurious she is.

She has surrendered her brilliance to TDS.

Charlie Currie said...

I've got nothing to say but it's ok
Good morning, Good morning

Tomcc said...

I presume the author of the article is implying that India's proposed citizenship act represents the surrendering of traditions of laws and decency. Given India's relationship with it's Muslim neighbor, might they be justifiably wary of that particular subset of the population?
Also, I would have preferred the term "more profound" to "profounder". But that's just me.

Amadeus 48 said...

Well, I've been waiting, but no one came up with Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show's hit "Cover of the Rolling Stone", which I thought of immediately with that line about Trump going to India to find himself. This verse says a lot about how things have changed from the Let It All Hang Out 1960s and 1970s:

We got a lot of little teenage blue eyed groupies
Who do anything we say
We got a genuine Indian Guru
Who's teaching us a better way
We got all the friends that money can buy
So we never have to be alone
And we keep getting richer but we can't get our picture
On the cover of the Rollin' Stone
Gonna see my picture on the cover
Gonna buy five copies for my mother (wa wa)
Gonna see my smilin' face
On the cover of the Rollin' Stone

It was really about Bill Clinton.

Obama, Bernie, and Bloomberg are pop culture wannabes compared to Bubba, and Hillary and Pocahontas don't approve.

Jaq said...

My favorite line from that song is one of my favorite lines from pop music

“We sing about beauty and we sing about truth
for ten thousand dollars a show."

Will Cate said...

Pete Townshend and Carlos Santana are a couple other famous rockers who went "full guru"

Lazarus said...

To be fair, that's an op-ed, not a news headline. The Times wouldn't say that in its own voice.

India, or so they say, is not a country, but a subcontinent. If it hadn't been for the British (or maybe Nehru or maybe the Mughals - I don't know the history) India wouldn't be one country but a half-dozen or more.

Hindu nationalism can be scary. There have been forced conversions and communal violence. But Pankaj Mishra is something of a wild man who thrives on creating controversy. There's a certain amount of showmanship and sham involved, like when he went after his wife's cousin, David Cameron. He seems like another ambitious scribbler writing "left" but living "right".

Steven said...

Modi's single greatest crime is, and always has been, beating a member of the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty that has always led the socialist-lite Congress Party for the national leadership.

Trump's single greatest crime is, and always has been, beating a member of the Clinton dynasty that was leading the socialist-lite Democratic Party for the national leadership.

Churchy LaFemme: said...

Mike Love is still "full guru". It makes his reasons for recording a Christmas album a bit incoherent. Still, his Pisces Brothers" to George Harrison is nice:

There is a painting, on the wall
And as I walk, on down the hall
A flood of memories, come to mind
Of happy birthday's, back in time
Pisces brothers, what word is success
Seekers drawn to reaching Akesh
Not for fortune, or for more things
But for enlightenment we came
To maharisha and how sublime
It was an atmosphere divine
Such precious moments. now in the past
Music and memories are all that last
Jaykurudeva, Hari Krishna, Haari ram
Jaykurudeva, little darling, here comes the sun
Jaykurudeva, Hari Krishna, How I miss ya'
Now on the darkest, of lonely nights
The heavens shine, with one more light
And while the world is off to sleep
Some say your children, gently weep
And though your earthly form be gone
Your signs of life, go on and on
Jaykurudeva, Hari Krishna, Haari ram
Jaykurudeva, little darling, here comes the sun
Jaykurudeva, Hari Krishna, gonna miss ya'
And though we'll miss you, now that you're gone
Your signs of life
Go on and on

Churchy LaFemme: said...

BTW, just listened again, and some of those lyrics are obviously wrong. I screwed up: I trusted the Internet..

ken in tx said...

"Andy's Gang" Andy Divine, Sat morning B&W TV show in the 50s. "Twang your magic twanger Froggy", and a frog in a large clock would twang and a kid's adventure serial/short would start. It was usually set in India.

Bunkypotatohead said...

So when is President Trump's White Album coming out.