Iran never won a war, but never lost a negotiation!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 3, 2020
January 3, 2020
After only tweeting the image of an American flag in the last day, Trump finally tweets words: "Iran never won a war, but never lost a negotiation!"
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It’s an open note to the ayatollah.
Was it Mccullough who wrote yesterday that the swamp got kickbacks on the billions Obama sent? Who ever it was, claim your brilliant words.
A light went off in my head when I read that. I think that makes so much sense. The fight against Trump by Brennan et al has to have been about money- vast amounts for someone- and not just power.
Shrewd. Trump knows them for the Muslim rug traders that they are. Obama thought he could deal with them as if they were a bunch of Yalies.
Nice reminder to the people of Iran that without the Great Terrorist to coordinate suppression, they can end the theocracy and have better futures.
Was it Mccullough who wrote yesterday that the swamp got kickbacks on the billions Obama sent?
Like the one clean cop in the dirty police force rife with corruption. Someone should do a photoshop of Trump as Serpico.
Max Boot doesn’t know what Trump meant.
I do not know yet if the killing of Suleimani was intentional or if the general just was in the wrong place and got in the way of a drone strike ordered for other reasons.
Anyway, the deed is done and the fact that the U.S. is at war with Iran and has been for some time is out in the open for all to see.
Blogger David Begley said...
Shrewd. Trump knows them for the Muslim rug traders that they are. Obama thought he could deal with them as if they were a bunch of Yalies.
Yes, "Would you buy a rug from this man?"
What I thought in 2015 when Obama made his biog deal.
"Why is this man laughing ?"
Here’s a hot take from Rose McGowan on Twitter:
’Dear #Iran, The USA has disrespected your country, your flag, your people. 52% of us humbly apologize. We want peace with your nation. We are being held hostage by a terrorist regime. We do not know how to escape. Please do not kill us. #Soleimani’
Emphasis mine.
Trump is now Hillary - a pawn of the permawar party.
Have they no shame
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/do-you-apologize-or-not-kerry-cruz-spar-over-what-gold-star-families?fbclid=IwAR1REdXvLNYxKtIz9d7Mx6vPTOvcjJFPO1AW-l9I-8iiQyeSqVl0V4f_pM4
This also sends a nice message to the Taliban as Trump extracts the US from Afghanistan.
ARM has a brand new hot take: "Trump is now Hillary - a pawn of the permawar party."
LOL
So, I guess we are marching on Tehran!
ARM, would you be so kind as to provide hourly updates on this phantom offensive?
Or would you prefer to return to your moronic Great Awakening/Imminent Recession narratives?
Hey, remember that nuclear war with North Korea that Trump started? It was all the rage on the left and LLR-left not that long ago......
.....I wonder whatever did happen with that?
I sure hope we all survived!
Trump is now Hillary - a pawn of the permawar party.
ARM gets more pitiful each day. Orwell had advice for you. "There is no need for war. There is always surrender."
Obama tried surrender.
Walk bigly and carry bigly a big stick.
Brit Hume Twitter: "Two days apart. It really is sad what partisanship is doing to people.
First @ChrisMurphyCT complains that we are impotent and just praying for the bad guys to go away, then he declares it was wrong for us to take out the worst bad guy in the region.
Shameless. https://t.co/yrX2UfOswf"
Hey ARM, whaddya think?
Is Chris Murphy's idiotic statement a better lefty talking point than yours?
LOL
What was most awesome about the lunacy vomited up by the pro-Iran terrorism democratics last night was how it was so obvious they were not able to focus group their talking points so they simply lashed out in quite revealing fashion.
Perfect.
Looks like the Stable Genius hit his primary military target and also achieved large secondary political explosions on the dem/left/LLR-left here.
The problem with abandoning all your principles to embrace the Great Pumpkin is that you end up supporting Hillary. No one would have been surprised if Hillary had done this. This has Hillary written all over it - insecure narcissist trying to prove that she is tough.
Several people I knew (none that were personal friends) were killed by roadside and top-attack EFPs supplied by Iran and Quds force.
I hope him and his mother suck dicks in hell.
ARM, Hillary had her chance with a consulate under attack. She pulled an Ostrich and stuck her head in the sand (while simultaneously targeting a scapegoat on fucking YouTube). I assume you prefer The Benghazi result over yesterday's attack?
He was also closely allied with Moqtada Sadr. Remember him? You could've mapped a new river - 'The Armory River' - of weapons that flowed from Iran, to Iraq, to Syria, to Hamas and then Hezbollah with the weaponry this guy and his deputies funneled to the enemies of the US.
I have no doubt he's not the first domino to fall, and we've likely got eyes on lots and lots and lots of his friends. Good. Very good.
So to summarize the left/LLR-left talking points over just the last 2 days:
1) Benghazi really was an horrific failure.
2) Trump's campaign promise to disentangle us from the mideast is totally spot on!
Thanks dems/LLR-lefties!
Of course, one mustn't laugh at the democratics/LLR-lefties too much. You see, they are afflicted with both long term and short term memory loss.
Just take a look at Biden! He thinks the cereal he ate this morning was a gangbanger from 60 years ago!!
A Delaware gangbanger........LOL!
I trust Trump will not get us into a war with Iran. I don't want one more American dying in some town whose name our people can't pronounce, let alone locate on a map. I'm trusting you, you crazy motherfucker.
No matter how you attempt to twist and turn - if Lindsey likes it then it's a Hillary move.
Now that ISIL (Sunni) is pretty much a functioning non-entity now, Iran's licking its chops.
What they were never able to do during the Iran-Iraq war, Turkey, the USA, Iraq, and the coalition against ISIL may have provided the opportunity for - a Shi'a takeover of Iraq and a Sunni majority not entirely well-prepared to stop them without foreign assistance.
God, how I hate these people and their Achaemenid politics.
Shorter ARM:
Heads Democratics win.
Tails Republicans lose.
When Quds forces invaded US territory they committed an act of war.
There is a huge stink in the media about it. That means that somebody wants a stink in the media about it.
All Americans advised to leave Iraq.
It’s about time we tried a little tenderness with Iran. We should have burned Qom to end the hostage crisis in the Carter Presidency. We could have avoided a lot of the subsequent unpleasantness.
ARM: "No matter how you attempt to twist and turn - if Lindsey likes it then it's a Hillary move."
LOLOLOLOL
Seriously. Run along home laddie. This is not the place for you today.
Besides, dont you have a sham impeachment you are supposed to forget about?
You might want a major rewrite on your Great Awakening and imminent recession gambits as well.
One final thought: I am so very sorry this is happening to you. Sad and somber. Sad and somber......
News about the future is less constrained than news about the past.
Tomorrow's news today. That was somebody's tag line.
rhhardin: "News about the future is less constrained than news about the past."
Not even close to being correct.
I give you the 1619 Project and the daily lefty/LLR-lefty History Rewrite.
Speaking of, I wonder if and how this will move the ball on impeachment.
Walk bigly and carry bigly a big stick.
Amen, Fernandistein!
Browndog: "Speaking of, I wonder if and how this will move the ball on impeachment."
Shhhhhhhhhh.
Nancy had a near epileptic fit telling reporters she DID NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ANYMORE.
She was also very sad and somber. And prayerful. Mostly somber though on balance. But with significant though not majority prayerfulness.
Did I mention she was also sad?
The Stable Genius could have attacked and killed many an Iranian leader and be in trouble for it. But he carefully targeted the one guy who was a feared killer all over the world and who had threatened to kill America's and our allies military forces with his IED squads just like he got away with doing for the past 15 years.
Murderer Sulemani who bragged about blowing off the arms and legs of thousands of young American men has just lost his own arms and legs. Nice work.
It’s about time we tried a little tenderness with Iran. We should have burned Qom to end the hostage crisis in the Carter Presidency. We could have avoided a lot of the subsequent unpleasantness.
Reportedly, the Joint Chiefs advised taking out Kharg Island, Iran's oil port. Carter vetoed it.
Had he not done so, we might never have had Reagan.
No one would have been surprised if Hillary had done this.
I would have been surprised if Hillary had waited this long. Trump had cause to take action. I laugh at the comments in my Facebook feed where the comments are "Iranian killed who was just visiting Iraq". Hoo boy, the naiveté.
“... a Sunni majority ...”
Strange though it may sound to some, there is no Sunni majority in Iraq. ~65% of the Muslim population of Iraq is Shiah.
First @ChrisMurphyCT complains that we are impotent and just praying for the bad guys to go away, then he declares it was wrong for us to take out the worst bad guy in the region.
It really does come across like they consider Soleimani as an honorary member of "The Swamp" who should be protected no matter his depredations.
Lincolntf said...
ARM, Hillary had her chance with a consulate under attack. She pulled an Ostrich and stuck her head in the sand (while simultaneously targeting a scapegoat on fucking YouTube). I assume you prefer The Benghazi result over yesterday's attack?
That's what I was going to say.
I'd also love to remind people who had fallen in love with McCain because he hated Trump, that McCain got hounded by these same people when *he* was running for President for singing "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"
We really don't have a dog in this fight. The best solution would be to take all of our troops and our embassies out of the ME and let the Sunnis and Shiites fight it out on their own. As Tulsi would say, it's time to stop being the Saudis' bitch. Perhaps--just perhaps--we could persuade Russia to stay out as well. But to do it now would look like weakness.
Wince: "It really does come across like they consider Soleimani as an honorary member of "The Swamp" who should be protected no matter his depredations."
It seems that way because it is that way.
Obambi and Slow Joe had the opportunity to take this cat out and turned it down because...well, because Team Obama/Biden/LLR's wanted to hand over billions to the mad mullahs of Iran to show Israel how much the democratics hate them.
@Kassaar
Yes, what I meant. It's hard to keep up these days with the Achaemenid/Assyrian politics and the various Kurds, Nizaris, Twelvers, Yazidis, Christians, etc.
MayBee: "I'd also love to remind people who had fallen in love with McCain because he hated Trump, that McCain got hounded by these same people when *he* was running for President for singing "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"
That would be "FusionGPS McCain".
I was just watching a YouTube clip showing Iraqi citizens celebrating the attack on Solejmani, that must really piss off the media.
Kassaar reminds us: Strange though it may sound to some, there is no Sunni majority in Iraq. ~65% of the Muslim population of Iraq is Shiah.
And this fact attests to the strength of the [Sunni] Hussein regime. We should have left him in power. Oh, but wait...he had Weapons of Mass Destruction!
You can argue that both Bush and Obama and now Trump have had their share of failures in the Middle East. But when it comes to utter, cataclysmic failure it's hard to surpass Saddam, Qaddafi, or Assad. I wonder if the senior advisers and media celebrities in Iran discuss unintended consequences the way these smart people on American television do. They really should. Whatever the risks for America, the risks for Iran and its people are far, far greater.
Coming NY Times headline? -- "Iranian Tourist Killed at Baghdad Airport."
Fernandistein said... Walk bigly and carry bigly a big stick.
1/3/20, 8:05 AM
If i could offer one improvement?
Walk bigly and bigly carry a big stick.
I think it signs better
Blogger William said...
You can argue that both Bush and Obama and now Trump have had their share of failures in the Middle East. But when it comes to utter, cataclysmic failure it's hard to surpass Saddam, Qaddafi, or Assad.
I wonder why people forget about Mubarak in Egypt. That's what started it all.
Rose McGowan knows all about quips pro quds
#hertoo
That was good, chickelit.
If i could offer one improvement?
Walk bigly and bigly carry a big stick.
Walk bigly and carry a yuge stick.
In the aftermath of WWI, the western world lost its appetite for war. The English were militantly opposed not just to war but to equipping their army for war. They thought weapons factories were a cause of war. The spirit of the French army used to be "attack, attack, always attack". After WWI, when the Germans re-occupied Rhineland with a few poorly trained brigades, the French army counseled against sending the French army in to kick those German brigades out. The risks of defeat were too great, the French generals said.....The one people who had not lost their faith in the wisdom of guns and generals were the Germans. The Germans, sometime after Dresden and the Russian occupation of eastern Germany, came to the conclusion that war was not the solution to their problems, but it took awhile......Perhaps someday the people in the MIddle East will come to an understanding that vainglorious dictators, religious fanaticism, and the force of arms are not the best way to improve their lives.
MAJMike: "Coming NY Times headline? -- "Iranian Tourist Killed at Baghdad Airport."
Dude, we are about 15 minutes away from the dems/LLR-leftists declaring OrangeManBad Murders Innocent Revered Austere General And All-Round "Spark Of Divinty" Good Guy!!
The shadowy Iranian spy chief who helped plan Benghazi
New York Post
June 20, 2014
Major Gen. Qassem Suleymani was the powerful figure behind the 2012 attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya
"Why is this man laughing?"
I hope that one's in the next group.
Max Boot doesn’t know what Trump meant.
MSNBC panel similarly baffled.
We really don't have a dog in this fight. The best solution would be to take all of our troops and our embassies out of the ME and let the Sunnis and Shiites fight it out on their own.
I agree with one exception.
“We want either Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead.” T Roosevelt.
We did the right thing here. Invading our embassy cannot be tolerated and the response was exactly proportional.
MadisonMan said... I laugh at the comments in my Facebook feed where the comments are "Iranian killed who was just visiting Iraq"
--
Weekend at Baghdad.
Will Jane Fonda adapt her Friday CAGW protest?
day ending in y
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7848923/Terrorist-kinifeman-wearing-explosive-vest-shot-dead-Paris-stabbing-four-people.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small
At least Obama only killed Americans with his drone strikes.
The first rule of negotiating is that you must always be prepared to walk away from a deal. Trump reached a point where it was time to walk away from a deal with Iran. But please note that walking away is not necessarily the end. Walking away is a tactic. What happens next will depend on what Iran does in response. Iran will need to prove they can act in good faith before we seriously negotiate with them again.
narciso,
"Witnesses told local media the attacker was yelling 'Allahu Akbar' as he launched the attack in the Hautes-Bruyères park in the suburb of Villejuif shortly after 2pm on Friday."
Really jumping the err..gun re motive. He might have been reacting to his knife going rogue.
KNIFE VIOLENCE
Gotta disagree with ARM. Hillary would have not authorized taking out such a high ranking Iranian national. This is a very risky move because Iran is the strongest military power in the region unlike Libya.
Gotta give props to Nichevo who has been touting a decapitation strike. This was a tactical decap and very likely the best target for disrupting command and control. The Iranian military is not an Arab terrorist group. This dude is irreplaceable.
Still, it's a risky move, but sticking to the old way was risky as well. I'm very glad Trump liquidated this scum bag into a grease stain.
We did the right thing here. Invading our embassy cannot be tolerated and the response was exactly proportional.
I agree, Michael. We have to defend our embassies which is why we need to remove them from enemy territory. The notion that we have friends and allies in Muslim countries is a fairy tale that only the Pentagon seems to believe.
his Caribbean equivalent,
https://babalublog.com/2020/01/02/cuban-top-dog-general-leopoldo-cintra-frias-and-two-of-his-children-cited-for-gross-violation-of-human-rights-in-venezuela/
Wapo yesterday: Trump is a wimp, making the USA look bad.
Wapo Today: Trump is warmonger, making the USA look bad.
At least Obama only killed Americans with his drone strikes.
American teenagers. And he was surprised at how good he was at it.
The graveyard is filled with irreplaceable men.
If Iran’s military isn’t a next man up organization, then they are in trouble.
This is why I like Trump. He refused retaliatory air strikes against Iran when he learned that 50-100 innocent people were killed. And here he strikes back against the Iranian Military leader and kills him.
Well done.
Bill, Republic of Texas said: "And he was surprised at how good he was at it."
Really? He seemed to take it for granted that he was better at everything he did than everyone else.
Iran’s next target will probably be John Kerry
Seen at Ace of Spades HQ:
"One day lefties rooting for a Trump benghazi.
Next day lefties crying that a terror militia leader is dead."
Will the "Suleimani is our leader" scrawled on embassy be updated?
I know..was a false flag!
I stand corrected. Phidippus is correct.
President Barack Obama told his aides that he's "really good at killing people" while discussing drone strikes.
McCullough: that's a fair point but from what I've read about the target is that he was a unicorn. A one off. I'm sure a lot of high-level commanders are now thinking if they can get to him they can get to me
Imagine if we didn't respond to the Iranians storming the Iraqi US compound.
Can you hear the howls on the left in that direction? Of course. The collective left have not a drop of principle.
Trump is sending John Kerry to Iran with James Taylor to sing "You've Got a Friend" to the ayatollah.
If Trump killed Bin Laden, the left would scream and moan about how horrible and unfair it was.
Drago thrives on gotcha gossip. Whatever it takes to float your boat, flyboy
@McCullough
"The graveyard is filled with irreplaceable men. If Iran’s military isn’t a next man up organization, then they are in trouble."
This. In my experience in this part of the world they are very strong-man centric (duh). It's like this both because they need the leadership to get anything done and because if he's not strong enough to keep his competition at bay or from killing him, he won't and he'll be dead. So what you do is you pop a bunch of the senior leadership, wait till the cream-rises so to speak and then pop them...and then things start to happen. All the sudden, no one wants to step-up anymore and things die down a bit while they regroup. Then the emerging confidence of the third-in-lines starts to rev up but they're just never ever as good.
These people ARE NOT the Roman Republic after Cannae. They couldn't lose half the senators in a rout, come back fighting to keep Hannibal away from the gates, and burn Carthage 20 years later.
Our biggest problem is that we continually fail to "salt the earth" once we leave. I've often considered what the region might look like if we turned it to Trinitite, but we'll leave that alone for now.
Did you ever wonder: If Trump killed a mass murdering terrorist responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans in the middle of Baghdad Airport, would his critics still complain?
Now we know.
(I did not know Suleimaini was also responsible for Benghazi. Wow. Just wow. That should lead every network news story tonight, but of course it won't.)
Walking away is putting yourself in a situation to be shot or stabbed in the back.
Howard: "Drago thrives on gotcha gossip. Whatever it takes to float your boat, flyboy"
Another insightful contribution from Howard.
I shouldnt laugh really. It has to be tough for Howard. He wants to play in the game but he just doesnt know anything.
"Trinitite" I'm embarrassed being a geologist and never hearing that one turn it. I felt the same way in 1983 but then Ronald Reagan sold them arms to release hostages and that's the core reason why you and your buddies got fucked.
Drago let me give you a hint only the morons here take you seriously. Your comedy used to be pretty good but I'm sorry partner you've gotten fat and lazy beating up on Chuck. I'm your only friend left that will tell you the truth.
Howard: "Drago let me give you a hint only the morons here take you seriously. Your comedy used to be pretty good but I'm sorry partner you've gotten fat and lazy beating up on Chuck. I'm your only friend left that will tell you the truth."
Well thank goodness you are here. Blessed, I am.
Howard: "Drago thrives on gotcha gossip."
Example of "gotcha gossip": Howard claims our inflation is spiraling out of control. I respond with a nope, inflation is steady between 2% and 3%.
"gotcha gossip".
Discuss.
I can tell you this: the guys and gals of the Truman Strike Group are just praying for Iran to pull some shenanigans.
Trump said Sulemani had been trying to cause death to America, "but got caught."
That was also a threat made to every coup d'etat apparatchik in DC. You get caught by Trump and your future will end.
@Howard
"Trinitite"
That's ok Howard. I bet most people here have never heard of it either, or ever said you were the smartest guy in the room.
I felt the same way in 1983 but then Ronald Reagan sold them arms to release hostages and that's the core reason why you and your buddies got fucked.
Reagan obviously should have just shipped them a couple of billion dollars for nothing instead.
Shorter ARM:
Heads Democratics win.
Tails Republicans lose.
That has been the MO for the Propaganda Media and DNC since Day 1 of the Trump presidency. It was the case with all Republican Presidents, but it is blatantly obvious with Trump.
That is a good thing because a few more people will notice and rethink the Media narrative. ARM is obviously incapable of doing so because he is a Media narrative cultist.
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German government spokeswoman Ulrike Demmer, “The American action was a reaction to a series of military provocations for which Iran is responsible."
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I felt the same way in 1983 but then Ronald Reagan sold them arms to release hostages and that's the core reason why you and your buddies got fucked.
And hostages got released but not Bill Buckley who was the reason.
Howard most disappointed by something he doesn't understand.
Whereas your guy gave them billions in cash and gold bars for what reason again ?
NB: the Dems in Congress are bitching that they were not tipped off first. DWS said unless Congress rules equally on Military issues. then we will have a one man government. Which is why the Congressional sell outs are not allowed to know advance details of military plans. One man can keep a secret. Congress just sells our secrets to the highest bidder for cash.
It's offical. The collective Maddow-Schitt left are now Antifa-Terrorist adoring a-holes.
mccullough said...
Iran’s next target will probably be John Kerry
It would be nice if he was Trump's but we take them as they come. It would have been fun if Kerry had been on the plane to welcome him.
Gahrie: "Reagan obviously should have just shipped them a couple of billion dollars for nothing instead."
In small unmarked denominations which are ready made for distribution to terrorist teams already in the field.
Thanks obama/Biden!!
Stephen Hayes
Verified account @stephenfhayes
3h3 hours ago
As a precondition to the Iranians signing on to the Iran Nuclear Deal) in 2015, the Obama admin agreed to lift existing sanctions on Suleimani after 8 years, despite his long record of directing Iran’s terror apparatus, provided Iran abided by the terms of the accord.
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Stephen Hayes
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3h3 hours ago
If the handling of Qais Khazali illustrates the stark differences in approach between the Obama and Trump administrations, so does the treatment of Qassem Suleimani.
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Stephen Hayes
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3h3 hours ago
"Among those designated last month was Qais Khazali, an Iran-backed terrorist once held by the US government but freed by the Obama administration in a late-2009 hostage swap. Khazali was one of the militia leaders who helped orchestrate the violent protests at the U.S. Embassy"
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Stephen Hayes
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3h3 hours ago
In early December, the U.S. Treasury Department designated several Iranian militia leaders for ordering the assassination of protest leaders and other human rights abuses. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm847 …
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Stephen Hayes
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3h3 hours ago
"Suleimani and his allies were providing more than political help. Iran-backed militias were actively involved in putting down protests, at times resulting in the deaths of dozens of protesters."
Brig. Gen. Esmail Ghaani is the new Quds Force commander. And soon to be declined by AFLAC.
Howard said...
Gotta disagree with ARM. Hillary would have not authorized taking out such a high ranking Iranian national. This is a very risky move because Iran is the strongest military power in the region unlike Libya.
Gotta give props to Nichevo who has been touting a decapitation strike. This was a tactical decap and very likely the best target for disrupting command and control. The Iranian military is not an Arab terrorist group. This dude is irreplaceable.
Still, it's a risky move, but sticking to the old way was risky as well. I'm very glad Trump liquidated this scum bag into a grease stain.
In turn, I'll allow that this was wiser than directly whacking Khameinei and the Council of Experts, inasmuch as it allows for escalation, is immediately valuable in the field, and leaves their leadership tingling with anticipation. As you say, Soleimani was a unicorn.
And apparently this addresses Benghazi, if not Beirut.
I think you are being politically opportunist, though, in condemning Reagan's attempts at maneuver. No?
Imagine if we didn't respond to the Iranians storming the Iraqi US compound.
In other words, imagine that there was a Democrat Administration in the White House when the embassy was stormed.
I am sure Max Bootlicker is rallying around the President now. Oh wait, he is still whining with his SJW friends and Israel haters.
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Props to Howard this time around. The other Iranian generals sitting around the table are giving each other sidelong glances. Who's next.
Tradguy notes: NB: the Dems in Congress are bitching that they were not tipped off first. DWS said unless Congress rules equally on Military issues. then we will have a one man government.
Confiding in Adam Schitt is like posting it on FB. Why would any American president trust Congress with their abysmal record?
You know......Trump is making Obama look completely incompetent.
Who would have guessed that a senator from Illinois could be such a fuck up??
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
Trump is now Hillary - a pawn of the permawar party.
So you're happy now?
@ARM: Is there such a thing as reverse projection? Trump takes out a really bad dude who has been killing ours for decades. Hillary takes credit for the torture death of the benign Qaddafi at the hands of his own people then pussies out on the Benghazi attack. So you claim Trump is becoming Hillary?
Seriously, how stupid are you?
I don't recall "benign Qaddafi" and apparently "his own people" didn't think that highly of the fellow.
Not that I defend the Obama-Clinton farce, sucked all too willingly into Libya for the benefit of others.
Now I understand the Turks are sending military forces to Libya-- good. Let them police their former colony.
Narr
Sometimes torture death is the happy ending
madAsHell said...
"You know......Trump is making Obama look completely incompetent.
Who would have guessed that a senator from Illinois could be such a fuck up??"
I tried to warn you guys. Many times.
Nichevo: I dropped out of college and enlisted in the USMC days after RR was elected. The Reagan administration actions, including the horrible rules of engagement and protection around the Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983 (our squadron was debriefed by a Mustang Skipper about a week after it happened. It was the most shocking display of insubordination against the commander and chief that I have ever witnessed). Then the subsequent arms for hostage trade with Iran made the whole situation feel like a huge betrayal at the time.
Dale Dye (another Mustang Skipper) wrote a book about the Beirut fiasco which was similar to the debrief I heard at the time.
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only the late admiral lyons was really on point re Beirut, recognizing it was a proxy effort, by iran, and the iran initiative was ill advised, however when the last administration, basically committed that error 100,000 fold, there's no contest
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