December 30, 2019

Some of Politico's "The Worst Political Predictions of 2019" is really good, with genuine predictions that are genuinely ridiculous in hindsight.

Like "By the end of 2019, the president of the United States will be Nancy Pelosi."

But that's #17 on a list of 17, and the quality of the list declines from there and is totally botched at #1, which just has to be Trump, but apparently they couldn't find a bad enough Trump prediction to feature at #1 and they just brought up something he did that's not a prediction and — as presidential misdeeds go — isn't even that bad: Sharpiegate:
In advance of the storm making landfall, Trump tweeted that “In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.” There were never any reputable weather maps that had Alabama in the direct path of the storm, and the National Weather Service in Birmingham quickly issued a statement correcting the president. Rather than admit a mistake, Trump produced a map of the hurricane’s path—and apparently used a marker to draw over the expert forecast and change the path of Dorian’s projected fallout area to include Alabama. The hurricane never did hit the state.

156 comments:

The Bergall said...

This is rich!

Darrell said...

Some deterministic computer models plotting potential tracks for the center of Dorian suggested the center of Dorian could move through the Florida peninsula and into the Gulf of Mexico, where it could make a second landfall along the Northern Gulf Coast, including Alabama.

Obama, on the other hand said “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” The real death toll was 12.

Danno said...

Darrell, I saw the model you are talking about. The taards in our lamestream media don't allow for changes to weather modeling due to updated information to say Trump was not a liar.

Iman said...

Orange Man Bad finds the idiocy in people. It’s as if he came along expressly to expose how ridiculous the Democrats, their operatives in the media and NeverTrump have been all along. It’s a public service.

Temujin said...

I was in Florida during that storm. None of us knew where it was going to go at first. I'm on the Gulf coast. The first notice was for us to be aware that there were tracks showing it going through the state, coming back into the Gulf. If that happened, the track would naturally take it north- to the Florida Panhandle and the Alabama coast.

For Floridians, this was a no-brainer. For the rest of the country, and apparently for the media which does not like to leave New York- it was an astounding thing to contemplate.

Amadeus 48 said...

Yup. This is #1 alright.

AlbertAnonymous said...

This is utter garbage...

Worse than a teenager pulling together crappy predictions from the big wig pundits. This is a collection of predictions from hacks nobody ever heard of, used specifically to bash DJT.

Worse than garbage.

Maybe should have started with “trump will be found guilty of collusion with russia - the walls are closing in” predicted by [Everyone in MSM]

M Jordan said...

Even though they were forced to show how much anti-Trump bias was behind many of these predictions, Politico still managed to put an anti-Trump spin on this ridiculous list. Trump’s saying the hurricane would hit Alabama is #1? Pathetic. Just pathetic.

David Begley said...

Sharpiegate is actually significant. The Fake News speculates all the time and about everything. CAGW is a prediction about an event in the distant future. Fake News loves CAGW. But when Trump makes a wrong prediction about the inherently unpredictable path of a hurricane it is a major scandal per the Fake News.

What a bunch of fucking idiots and hypocrites.

pious agnostic said...

Temujin said... @ 12/30/19, 7:31 AM

This is 100% correct. When the first tracks for Dorian were published a week out, they ran right through my Central Florida back yard! Floridians understand that storms can go ANYWHERE and public officials stress the importance for ALL citizens to be aware of the danger and be prepared, no matter how unlikely it seems a week out.

People outside Florida who don't tune in until it's an hour from landfall act as if a storm's course is predetermined and known, because they see a big line on the map behind it.

Beasts of England said...

I’m thankful that Trump used his magical MAGA powers to keep us cousin humping deplorables in Alabama safe from that hurricane!!

Ryan said...

This one from the list ended up being pretty accurate and not a bad prediction:

"11. Mueller will “exonerate Trump,” “implicate the Deep State” and “forever legitimize his presidency”"

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Thus illustrating why the normal rational person totally ignores most, if not all, of what the Media is trying to push us into thinking.

Ryan said...

The hurricane map is not a *political* prediction at all. Its weather-related.

Darrell said...

Chuck-porn.
Don't go blind, son.

narciso said...

They were embarassing wrong, mueller is incapable of rendering any justice, but thats what the pop gun yielded

Fernandistein said...

This was fairly predictable:

">NYeT takes a lesson from their handbook, 1984:

"Bret Stephens’ latest column (https://t.co/6ECSD0oWe8), which argues that culture and history drive Jewish achievements, has been edited to remove a reference to a paper widely disputed as advancing a racist hypothesis. We’ve added the following editors’ note to the column. pic.twitter.com/Aj7eU3Fce2"

(they removed evidence of Jewish intelligence because evidence is racist)

narciso said...

Leboutilier, he really has gone chuck amok

narciso said...

Alabamagate coincided with the brief pause in aide to ukraine, he was so concerned abouy it (sarc)

pacwest said...

Sharpiegate. I'm beginning to think these jounalist types are not that bright.

gilbar said...

i confess being guilty of #10 I LOUDLY predicted that Kamela Harris would be nominated

In my defense, i did not realize what a pathetic cocksucker of a candidate she would be
{now that i've typed that, i see that's not much of a defense}

narciso said...

They fell hard for o rourke who is now like the guy in office space.

pacwest said...

Sharpiegate. I'm beginning to think these jounalist types are not that bright.

rcocean said...

So Trump said the Hurricane might hit Alabama harder than expected, means that Trump was forecasting the Hurricane would DIRECTLY Hit Alabama? NO! He didn't say that. What if Trump had left off Alambama, and Mobile, right next to FLorida had been sustained some damage.

Then these same assholes would be saying Trump GUARANTEED Alabama would NOT be hit, and now people are suffering. This is why I have zero respect for the MSM, they lie and lie and lie.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Darrell - LOL.

rcocean said...

The other prediction was that Mueller would exonerate Trump but according to the Politico asshole writer, he didn't. EXCEPT, he did exonerate, it just depends on what you mean by exonerate. No special prosecutor gives "He's 100% innocent" certificates to anyone. And i doubt the original prediction said that.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Ukraine - where the children of democratic-pols-for-life go to get rich.

You know what is rich? Tom Styer banging on about term limits. LOL.
Carry on.

William said...

I predict that the media will say hostile things about President Trump and that the weather will vary.

Freder Frederson said...

I was in Florida during that storm. None of us knew where it was going to go at first. I'm on the Gulf coast. The first notice was for us to be aware that there were tracks showing it going through the state, coming back into the Gulf. If that happened, the track would naturally take it north- to the Florida Panhandle and the Alabama coast.

You are lying. The track never showed it going across Florida and into the Gulf. NOAA does not draw cones more than five days out. The initial track was indeed due west, but the edge of the cone was in the middle of the state. By the next day, the cone was making a sharp northward turn, at first over Florida, but off the east coast as the storm drew closer. To extrapolate the cone based on the initial cone ignores all the warnings NOAA posts about the unpredictably of hurricanes.

Michael K said...

POlitico turned hard left a minute after it began.

Gunner said...

There was only one crazy black guy with delusions of persecution on that list! In reality, the whole list could have consisted of them.

Jeff Brokaw said...

I keep waiting for someone in the media to wake up to the fact that publishing things like this actually makes them look stupid, not Trump.

Still waiting...

Mark said...

I believe it was the Alabama National Guard that posted hurricane warnings on their website.

narciso said...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/beijing-accepts-inviation-liu-he-coming-america-phase-one-deal-signing-saturday

Mark said...

"[Hurricane Dorian] is projected to reach southern Alabama by the early part of the week. We are watching closely and [ready] to act. Are you?" the Alabama National Guard tweeted before Trump ever said anything.

Chuck said...

Darrell said...
Some deterministic computer models plotting potential tracks for the center of Dorian suggested the center of Dorian could move through the Florida peninsula and into the Gulf of Mexico, where it could make a second landfall along the Northern Gulf Coast, including Alabama.


There were some models that suggested that, days before Trump's public statement. By the time Trump said it, that was no longer the case. All of the professionals knew that Trump's statement was wrong and misleading in a serious way, about a serious matter (emergency storm preparations).

I have always been surprised at the callousness of Trump's fans. They seem to have no regard for earnest weather professionals in the NWS Birmingham AL office whose job it was to keep the people of Alabama safe and accurately informed. The Birmingham NWS staff heard Trump's statement and immediately knew that it was wrong. So wrong that they had to say something. (And of course as we know, White House Communications then tried to build a post-hoc case through political appointees at the expense of the professional staff.)

All of the blather and bullshit about how Trump cares for the little guys and the hard workers on the front lines of public service, and how Trump wanted to meet enlisted SEAL team members and "no officers" and blah blah blah. With Sharpiegate, the White House shamelessly tried to throw the NWS staff under the bus to protect Trump from his own falsehoods.

And of course, it all began with Trump himself; freelancing with his words in his own patented way without regard for any exacting accuracy. He does it all the time, and it should always get him into trouble because he is so routinely in error.

You're right, Althouse; the Sharpie stunt wasn't a "prediction" by Trump. But the bloviating by Trump WAS a prediction. Remember? "It may get a little piece of a great place — it’s called Alabama,” Trump said. “And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately.“

And by the time he said that, it was untrue. It was a genuine screw-up by Trump of another kind, made almost unimaginably worse by trying to force Trump's mischaracterization onto the NWS after the fact, and then the fantastically incompetent stunt of using the Sharpie to expand an outdated hurricane "cone" map into Alabama. There might not have been another bad prediction on the list where the offeror of the prediction did more to cling to the inaccuracy.

Remember as well; when he was later asked about how the Sharpie mark got on the map, Trump claimed he didn't even know how the mark got there. "I don't know. I don't know. I don't know," Trump claimed. A day later, the Washington Post confirmed from multiple White House sources that Trump was the person who made the mark.

A laughable clusterfuck of Trumpian proportions. A nice year-ending memory.

Darrell said...

Weather-expert-Comrade Freder says listen to the State.
Never plan for contingencies.
Vigilance and preparedness are enemies of the State.

Char Char Binks said...

Mueller actually did exonerate Trump, accidentally, but he won't admit it, and probably doesn't remember.

TJM said...

I wonder why Inga is not joining in on the fun?

Darrell said...

I made a mark below, Chuck. Can you see it?

Go fuck yourself you miserable lying bastard.

Larry J said...

As physicist Neils Bohr and baseball sage Yogi Berra both noted, “predictions are difficult, especially about the future.”

Chuck said...

Mark said...
I believe it was the Alabama National Guard that posted hurricane warnings on their website.


Let's be clear; the Alabama National Guard warning was days before Trump's own "warning." By the Sunday when Trump began freelancing his own warnings on Alabama, the experts knew better and so they didn't hesitate to correct him.

The Alabama National Guard angle has never been a valid defense for Trump.

Beasts of England said...

’They seem to have no regard for earnest weather professionals in the NWS Birmingham AL office whose job it was to keep the people of Alabama safe and accurately informed.’

The Birmingham NWS doesn’t have any involvement with hurricane forecasts, asshat.

Dave Begley said...

Here are my 2020 predictions.

1. Trump wins in an EC landslide.

2. GOP wins the House.

3. Major indictments by Durham.

4. Trump not convicted in a Senate trial.

5. Flynn pardoned after Trump win.

6. Creighton doesn't make the Final Four.

7. Badgers win the Rose Bowl.

8. I sell my script, "Bride of Frankenstein."

Jeff Brokaw said...

Only an idiot could possibly believe that of all the stupidity that tumbled forth from everyone’s mouth about politics in 2019, the absolute worst was a Trump tweet about an uncertain future event like a hurricane path.

As every blogger knows, there are times when you write something and then before you hit “publish”, you re-read it and think “mmm this seems stupid now” and save it as a draft instead.

Politico hit “publish” on that hot garbage.

Darrell said...

The Alabama National Guard angle has never been a valid defense for Trump

In your useless, biased opinion. Of course.
Do you still have Michelle Field's arm that Corey Lewandowski ripped off?

MadisonMan said...

You are lying. The track never showed it going across Florida and into the Gulf. NOAA does not draw cones more than five days out. The initial track was indeed due west, but the edge of the cone was in the middle of the state. By the next day, the cone was making a sharp northward turn, at first over Florida, but off the east coast as the storm drew closer. To extrapolate the cone based on the initial cone ignores all the warnings NOAA posts about the unpredictably of hurricanes.

You write as if deterministic models suddenly stop at 5 days. They don't. Every one in the public can access a 16-day forecast model right now, and they can access the ensemble models too to get an idea of the spread of the models. Dorian's path was all over the place in different models in the 7-10 day timeframe as steering currents in the models collapsed. This was well known. And it happened! Witness the crawl over the Bahamas and then the turn north.

The problem with Trump's prediction is that it relied on old information, as far as I can tell, and that was what the response should have been: The forecast threat to AL has diminished with time and current forecasts keep the storm to the east. Instead, the media/Democratic Party-driven was response was to invent the nonsense term "sharpie-gate" and bray out that Trump was wrong. He plays them like a violin.

traditionalguy said...

The Dem Media are sucking air. They are redoing the lies they told before and assume we were fooled then and will let them re-cycle it. Any intelligent Deplorable knows that no two hurricanes are the same and each one goes where it decides to go and seldom where the computers have predicted. They are accusing Trump of telling people in Alabama ( a/k/a northern part of the Panhandle of Florida) to prepare for one that could come their way.

Oh woo woo.

Gusty Winds said...

I'm sure the media and Democrats would mind seeing the Gulf Shores of Alabama wiped out, so they're probably just pissed Trump gave everyone a responsible, plausible warning.

Chuck said...

It was the Birmingham NWS that -- rightly -- corrected Trump's misstatement of a warning for Alabama on the Sunday before Dorian approached the Florida coast.

And then, political actors at NOAA got involved in their vain effort to shore up some credibility for Trump:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/trump-alabama-hurricane-noaa-statement

Nonapod said...

11. Mueller will “exonerate Trump,” “implicate the Deep State” and “forever legitimize his presidency”
Predicted by: Bill Mitchell

Not only did special counsel Robert Mueller not exonerate Trump, he said, “If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”


Good grief. He effectively did exonerate Trump. But because certain people seem to what to creatively parse language and reframe the supposed crime of "collusion" under some absurd guilty until proven innocent standard, we have this persistant mass delusion. I can't prove Jerry Nadler's not a child molester. I can only say I haven't found evidence of it.

Beasts of England said...

Who had Chuck linking to ‘Vanity Fair’ today? You’re a winner!

MadisonMan said...

It was the Birmingham NWS that -- rightly -- corrected Trump's misstatement of a warning for Alabama on the Sunday before Dorian approached the Florida coast.

I've often wondered why it wasn't the Mobile office that made the correction.

gilbar said...

A day later, the Washington Post confirmed from multiple White House sources

Well, THERE YOU GO!
if the WaPoo CONFIRMED! from multiple anonymous White House sources (from the O'Bama admin?) that THEY thought that their opinion of something confirmed dirt on Trump... It MUST BE TRUE!!

Beasts of England said...

’I've often wondered why it wasn't the Mobile office that made the correction.’

Unlike the folks in Birmingham, Mobile has plenty of actual experience with hurricanes, so I doubt they were in any hurry to score political points like Chuck’s favorite weather guys in the Magic City.

Bill Peschel said...

What this discussion reveals is the left's inability to let understandable mistakes slide. Trump used information from the NOAA's spaghetti graph that showed about a third of the predictions showing the hurricane heading over Alabama (and possibly the Alabama National Guard's tweet) to urge people to prepare for the hurricane.

If this happened to your friend or to a Democratic Party politician, the result would be ignored, or excused with a shrug.

But, no, Politico puts "Sharpiegate" on a par with Obama's "you can keep your doctor if you want to" Lie of the Year, and the commentators like Freder getting personally nasty, poisoning the discourse with their pants-wetting screams.

If they expressed a particle of concern over Obama overseeing an espionage operation against an elected leader, or ginning up invisible "alt-right" racists to explain Hillary's defeat at the pols, you'd have more credibility.

Fernandistein said...

Orange Man Bad

Why isn't that a juice brand name yet?

Francisco D said...

I'm beginning to think these jounalist types are not that bright.

Yes. It is worth saying twice.

It is also worth noting that our trolls rely heavily on the MSM journalists for their talking points.

Dumb shits are attracted to other dumb shits like moths to a flame.

Bay Area Guy said...

I had totally forgotten about the No. 1 Alabama hurricane prediction. Thanks Politico!

And, now, because it is so inconsequential I shall promptly and proudly forget about it again......

Automatic_Wing said...

Lol, who didn't know the usual suspects would show up to argue about Sharpiegate.

Michael K said...

Chuck started on his New Years Eve party early. Put down the vodka bottle, Chuck. It's tomorrow night !

wild chicken said...

Oh come on, everybody. MSM can't put content out there without some kind of shot at Trump.

Their readers would be irate.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Getting the path of a hurricane wrong is big news.

Much bigger that setting up and running a private server while head of the State Department in order to hide your personal international money laundering and personal family enrichment schemes.
Much bigger than Biden's son raking in millions in Ukrainian and Chinese mega bucks because he is the son of the VP of the US. shhhhh, that's a conspiracy.

Mark said...

Lot of nobodies making those predictions.

Chuck said...

Beasts of England said...
’I've often wondered why it wasn't the Mobile office that made the correction.’

Unlike the folks in Birmingham, Mobile has plenty of actual experience with hurricanes, so I doubt they were in any hurry to score political points like Chuck’s favorite weather guys in the Magic City.


Wait; so not only was the Birmingham NWS staff correct, and not only did they have to take a ton of shit from the White House for having been right and having corrected Trump's recklessness; now you accuse them of being politically motivated and trying to "score political points." When you couldn't tell us one goddamned thing about who it was.

Chuck said...

Automatic_Wing said...
Lol, who didn't know the usual suspects would show up to argue about Sharpiegate.


Hey, it wasn't my idea for a blog post. Ask Althouse.

In fact, I think Althouse probably prefers her blog going back into Sharpiegate, rather than face the facts in the New York Times' bombshell story hitting its pages today that Pompeo, Bolton, Mulvaney and Esper all tried to get Trump to release the aid to Ukraine in August, and that Trump personally refused them. The story sets up massive pressure to get all of them to testify in the impeachment trial. They appear to have direct personal knowledge of Trump's personal direction of the aid.

So between that, and Sharpiegate, Althouse might have preferred the latter.

narciso said...

it's a competition to say who's prediction was most stupid, probably the one from the u of Louisville professor,

Lucien said...

Nonapod:

Mueller did exonerate Trump on the collusion charge. He only made up the "confidence of clear innocence" standard for the obstruction issue.

gilbar said...

Hey Chuck?
As much fun as it is (and it IS!) listening to you go on and (and on (and on)) about hurricanes
Why don't we talk about something Truly Hilarious?
Please let us know, about how when Trump explicitly excluded the nazis from his list of 'fine people'; that that was ACTUALLY his way of including them?

Come ON Chuck!
Talk to us about Charlottesville Hoax!!!
You KNOW you Want To

Lucien said...

I'm constantly amused when the MSM uses the term "bombshell" unironically, given how much of a laughingstock it has made them. And here Chuck does the same thing. Surprisingly. Could this be the "tipping point" leading to "the beginning of the end" as "the walls are closing in"?

Narr said...

WOW! The NYT (!!! - seriously, THE. NEW. YORK. TIMES. !!!) says that Trump went against his advisor's advice!

If this isn't the final nail in Trump's coffin, I don't know what is.

Narr
I keep thinking we've hit Peak Dumbass, but I'm always wrong

Giovan Pietro Bellori said...

Prediction: Foam Party “Republican” Cuck remains completely, absolutely, utterly powerless

tcrosse said...

The Dow is down today. Good. The lower it goes tomorrow, the less I will have to withdraw from my 401k for Required Minimum Distribution in 2020.
Then let it go back up.

narciso said...

yes it's probably profit taking, seeing the level of overstating, and simultaneously underplaying certain issues I'll guess there's not much to it,

Yancey Ward said...

Politico will end the year with its head even further up its ass.


Yep, nailed it.

Rusty said...

Chuck. You realize how stupid and petty you sound?
Apparently not.
The president, along with half the weather forecasters in America, got it wrong. And that is a big deal to you.
Well. All I can say is if anybody has an excuse to put their head in the oven and turn on the gas it's you.
Happy New Year!

Yancey Ward said...

And, also, Chuck.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Is "by the end of 2019, the President of the United States will be Nancy Pelosi" genuinely ridiculous in hindsight?

No, it was a joking prediction, in the longstanding style of such predictions. Or do you think that Stephen Kinzer actually believed that Senate Republicans would impeach both Donald Trump and Mike Pence?

And who is to say that Nancy Pelosi is not now the President of the United States? If as has been put forth on this blog it is a debatable fact as to whether Donald Trump has been impeached, then it's also debatable as to whether he has been convicted and removed from office. Likewise as to Mike Pence.

TJM said...

You have to be evil, dumb or both to vote Demtard. Here is a howler, the Dems trying to blame President Trump, who has Jewish grandchildren and just signed an executive order banning anti-semitism at our institutions of moronic learning:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-rush-to-blame-trump-for-anti-semitic-violence

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...
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BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

I wish Trump withheld all international aid. If it's to look into democratic corruption - even better.
Why ARE these nations ENTITLED TO our hard earned money?

Yancey Ward said...

The worst prediction in the realm of politics of 2019 was also the worst one of 2017 and 2018 in hindsight- that Mueller's investigation would "get" Donald Trump- that it would prove the Russian Collusion theory that was the genesis of the investigation. That prediction was ludicrous on its face, as I wrote in these threads many, many times, and yet it was the main prediction of pretty much ever single poltical pundit and talk show host on the Left, and even a handful on the right.

That Mueller felt he had to put it into writing that he could not "exonerate" Trump is a pretty damning indicator that the report did exactly that- exonerate Trump. Otherwise the thing could have spoken for itself, but wasn't allowed to.

Beasts of England said...

’When you couldn't tell us one goddamned thing about who it was.’

What in the heck are you talking about? And in case you forgot, the Birmingham weather guy is a Trump hater, so yeah - he was trying to score some resistance points. Up your game, Spergie.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

More Stephen Kinzer on twitter:

Nice piece about @TulsiGabbard's appeal to voters like me, who see impeachment as "at best a misguided diversion and at worst a deep-state coup" & believe that "Trump, while bad, is merely a meta-phenomenon of the larger failure of the Democratic Party."

narciso said...

but this travismockasham, does cover Mueller's history as deep state enabler, from boston to bcci to plamegate to aipac,

Michael K said...

Or do you think that Stephen Kinzer actually believed that Senate Republicans would impeach both Donald Trump and Mike Pence?

I don't know the man but we have seen many Democrats who still believe the Russia Hoax is true. Some are commenters right here.

He probably was hoping that would get rid of Trump. Pence, I dunno but Civics is not taught in schools anymore.

narciso said...

interesting detail I noticed from the bluebook series, that program was set up by general Charles cabell, who was Mueller's father in law,

narciso said...

he's a crazy lefty, hung up about the dulles bros and Guatemala, his latest book is about Sidney gottlieb, the company's poison expert,

Drago said...

LLR-lefty Chuck: "In fact, I think Althouse probably prefers her blog going back into Sharpiegate, rather than face the facts in the New York Times' bombshell story hitting its pages today that Pompeo, Bolton, Mulvaney and Esper all tried to get Trump to release the aid to Ukraine in August, and that Trump personally refused them. The story sets up massive pressure to get all of them to testify in the impeachment trial. They appear to have direct personal knowledge of Trump's personal direction of the aid."

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Already debunked!!

The only reason Trump gave for delaying aid was corruption!!

A new record for Speed Debunking of today's hilariously stupid (and consistently so) democrat/lefty/LLR-lefty talking points.

Geez Chuckie old chum. Do you think you might try and find a stupid lefty-Lawfare talking point that doesn't get absolutely destroyed within 4 hours of its promulgation?

So. Much. Winning.

Sorry about your failed "Let's "Kavanaugh" Trump" gambit.

So. Much. Winning.

Anyone else catch the continued middle and lower working class rising wages numbers and ever increasing black employment?

Looking good.....

Mary Beth (the commenter) said...

#1 is the reason that I will never vote for Trump for weatherman. Fortunately, he's running for re-election as president, and I'm cool with that.

Drago said...

Michael K: "I don't know the man but we have seen many Democrats who still believe the Russia Hoax is true. Some are commenters right here."

Indeed. In fact, I can't think of a single lefty here who doesn't.

The list of the Russian Collusion Truthers at Althouseblog include Inga, LLR-lefty Chuck (and gadfly by mindless extension), ARM, Freder, Ritmo/HoaxPPT, and a few other stragglers.

A few seem to be taking the initial steps of hedging their bets which is still funny all by itself given what has occurred over the last 3 years. These are the moron lefties who've looked over the edge of Commie Cliff and said to themselves (quietly), you know, it really does seem to be a long way down.......

Drago said...

TJM: "You have to be evil, dumb or both to vote Demtard. Here is a howler, the Dems trying to blame President Trump, who has Jewish grandchildren and just signed an executive order banning anti-semitism at our institutions of moronic learning:"

The new tactic of LLR-lefty Chuck and his far lefty chums, like De Blasio and Fredo Cuomo and Fredo Cuomo's older brother, etc, is to say Trump is somehow the spiritual leader of a the White Supremacists Of Color (WSOC) who also happen to be Islamic Supremacists and hate America and want to destroy our nation.

The dems/Left/LLR-left is making this argument because......uh....it just makes sense?

Perhaps LLR-lefty Chuck can explain why he and his lefty pals think this will work?

But don't start until I get the popcorn going.....

narciso said...

it makes ones hair hurt,


https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2019/11/29/mark-zaid-the-superhero-fortune-teller/#comments

Drago said...

Have I mentioned "So. Much. Winning." yet?

I would certainly be remiss had I not.

narciso said...

one of the predictions was something along the lines that Islamic state would become more powerful, the London bridge attack against his enablers, doesn't qualify in that category, the plot that was referred to earlier re Russia, probably came from that chechen leader detained in Ukraine about a month ago,

narciso said...

I remember the Hillary emails were chock full of politico tidbits, like they were gold nuggets, they were mostly pyrite,

Drago said...

LLR-lefty Chuck: "...New York Times' bombshell story hitting its pages today..."

This is officially the 11,926th NYT "unprecedented" "bombshell" that was going to get those "Walls closing in" on Trump which would signify the "beginning of the end of the Trump Presidency"!!!

This time for sure.

LLR-lefty Chuck's "brilliant" Maddow will be lit tonight!! This will almost, almost, be as powerful as her "bombshell" reporting on Trump's taxes!

It is clear that the dems/LLR-left hold in their hands the secret information that even a child of four can plainly see spells doom Doom DOOM for Trump!! This information has been recovered via Adam Schiff-staff envelopes that have been hermetically sealed. They've been kept in a mayonnaise jar on Funk and Wagnalls' porch since noon last Friday. No one knows the contents of these envelopes – but LLR-lefty Chuck, due to his deep and intimate Lawfare relationship with Benjamin Wittes, and in LLR-lefty Chuck's mystical and borderline divine way, is here to provide the answers to questions no sentient person would even think to answer.

Marc said...

There was yesterday somewhere a photograph of Beto slouched in an armchair, unshaven and casually dressed, and I couldn't even recall his name.

Beasts of England said...

lol, Drago!!

narciso said...

well that will be that,


https://theothermccain.com/2019/12/30/still-no-id-on-texas-church-shooter/

Chuck said...

Rusty said...
Chuck. You realize how stupid and petty you sound?
Apparently not.
The president, along with half the weather forecasters in America, got it wrong. And that is a big deal to you.
Well. All I can say is if anybody has an excuse to put their head in the oven and turn on the gas it's you.
Happy New Year!


No; we are talking about September 1, 2019. On that date, the latest predictive information showed Dorian turning sharply north. Only Trump got that wrong. Trump's tweet and subsequent statement could have been left as a silly overstatement by Trump, based on old information. But that is not what Trump's team did. They doubled down on it.

And that -- the process by which Trump said something stupid and then doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on it, in the face of clear undisputable facts to the contrary -- is what is a big deal to me. A hurricane non-event is NOT a big deal. A president with sociopathic tendencies IS a big deal.

narciso said...

episode 4 of blue book is set in Huntsville circa 1952, with von braun, has the head cheese,
there are many store fronts with german signs, to accommodate the Peenemunde group, they went there because there was a ufo sighting not far from there, there are allusions in the end, that the craft are some kind of interdimensional vessel, that is being tested there with live subjects, hyneks associate, captain quinn, was at Buchenwald, so he doesn't entirely trust him, yes von braun was at nordhausen, same general point,

narciso said...

give them the impeachment, in a schrodinger sense, their track record was .55 at best, that's embarrassing,

Drago said...

LLR-lefty Chuck's hilarious weather talking points were debunked in real time when he pushed those lies at the time.

The fact that LLR-lefty Chuck is desperately clinging to his previously debunked weather talking points and his "any port in a storm" newest talking points re: Trump advisors and the clear Biden crime/corruption concerns re: Ukraine tells you all you need to know about LLR-lefty Chuck's beloved but rapidly shrinking moron democrat candidates for 2020.

Sorry Chuckie. I'm afraid there is no correlation to the volume of lefty lies you push and potential negative election impacts to President Trump.

Can you imagine how much gin LLR-lefty Chuck must be slinging these days just to get through the day?

TJM said...

Drago,

I am disappointed Inga, our resident village idiot, has not joined in on the fun today

Beasts of England said...

’A president with sociopathic tendencies IS a big deal.’

So much winning!!

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

#1 pick was not "political prediction."

Belongs in category of "Meteorological Predictions by a Politician."

Recommend Politico article for listing in "Most Misleading Headlines of 2019."

Drago said...

TJM: "Drago, I am disappointed Inga, our resident village idiot, has not joined in on the fun today"

That's Admiral Inga to you.

Did you know she is quite knowledgeable regarding Naval strategy and military wargame planning?

I think they teach that in the second year of nursing school.

In Admiral Inga's defense, she is every bit as insightful and knowledgeable regarding naval strategy and tactics as LLR-lefty Chuck is on conservative thought and how to defeat democrats.

However, in LLR-lefty Chuck's defense, his goal is not and never has been the defeat of democrats. Quite the opposite actually.

Michael K said...

the process by which Trump said something stupid and then doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on it, in the face of clear undisputable facts to the contrary -- is what is a big deal to me.

I think you are confusing Trump with yourself, Chuck.

Drago said...

LLR-lefty Chuck: "the process by which Trump said something stupid and then doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on it, in the face of clear undisputable facts to the contrary -- is what is a big deal to me."

This was written by a guy who wanted White House personnel put under oath over a pecan pie tweet/photo.

TJM said...


’A president with sociopathic tendencies IS a big deal.’

We had one of those. He left office in January of 2017

Gary said...

Obama admitted he made a gaffe and said 10,000 instead of over ten and also admitted to other gaffes. Trump has never admitted that any of his over 15,000 falsehoods are lies or mistakes.
For a law professor, Althouse has the biggest partisan idiot followers who comment on her blog.
And Chuck is right, of course.

TJM said...


’A president with sociopathic tendencies IS a big deal.’

We had one of those. He left office in January of 2017

narciso said...


try again

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1211485770260926464

Drago said...

If anyone is wondering why huge Joe Biden fanboy LLR-lefty Chuck is in such a tizzy this week, its because his moron hero Slow Joe Biden has recently told the entire midwest that he will be happy to destroy all their jobs and their wages and destroy energy companies by jailing their executives AND he would be happy to appoint Barack Obama to the supreme court!!

Hard to imagine anything that Biden could have said that would make LLR-lefty Chuck happier in his President-Midwest Society of Obama Adoration role than that!

BTW, if you are wondering what I'm talking about, go back and read the astonishing suckup posts by LLR-lefty Chuck on his "magnificent" obama from the day after Christmas!!

I mean, wow. LLR-lefty Chuck outdid even Valerie Jarrett in his hagiographic praise of obambi!! Which is not easy to do, truth be told.

Qwinn said...

Chuck: What amazes me is that you don't see the difference between what you're arguing and what the media pushed. You're conceding that Trump was relying on "outdated" information... if I recall correctly, Trump was relying on information from Friday afternoon that was expired by Sunday morning. I personally figure that Presidenting is a time consuming job and being 36 hours behind on whether one state of several listed was still in the forecast is an pretty negligible error. But look at the way the article Ann posted about frames it - they're claiming that NOT EVEN OUTDATED info backed Trump. What you call "doubling and tripling" down was Trump pushing back against *that* idea. The idea that Trump's info wasn't just outdated but never existed at all. Trump was absolutely right to push back against that wild exaggeration. Nothing "sociopathic" about it. Your inability to acknowledge the above even when it's drawn out for you in crayon is sociopathic as hell, however.

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Drago said...

Qwinn: " Your inability to acknowledge the above even when it's drawn out for you in crayon is sociopathic as hell, however."

Now would be a good time for Fullmoon or someone to post LLR-lefty Chuck's self-admitted purpose in pushing this fake nonsense.

In summary:
To purposefully smear and lie about Trump and to drive a wedge between Althouse and her blog readers.

And since Gary has chimed in with full support for LLR-left Chuck, we must assume he shares that intent as well.

Sorry Gary, there is only room on this blog for 1 FakeCon transparent liar LLR-lefty, and this Chuck.

Drago said...

Gary: "And Chuck is right, of course."

So you are offically going on record now that Sarah Sanders did NOT bake that pecan pie and its totally ok to attack children and make racist comments on blogs.

Thanks for outing yourself (though we didn't need your help).

Drago said...

"Gallup has announced that President Trump and former President Obama have tied for first place in their most admired man of the year poll. Gallup is quick to point out that this is the twelfth time Obama has won this award and only the first time for President Trump."

OMG!!

LLR-lefty Chuck is NOT going to take this news well.

At all.

Believe you me, you thought LLR-lefty Chuck's racist posts and posts attacking women and children was bad before? With this latest announcement by Gallup our LLR-lefty Chuck is headed right around the bend.

TJM said...

Obama being even that close to President Trump shows how stupid and deranged people are. The only Blacks that prospered during the Obama years, were the Obamas

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Michael K said...

Drago, don't worry about Gary.

He is a sexual lemming. Whatever that is but it sounds harmless.

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TJM said...

Obama being even that close to President Trump shows how stupid and deranged people are. The only Blacks that prospered during the Obama years, were the Obamas

Earnest Prole said...

Trump’s hand-drawn hurricane-path projection was not a prediction?

narciso said...

the aaron mates link shows the aide was withheld for other reasons than the peach mint committee decided,

Drago said...

I fully expect gadfly to encourage the dems to add the obama admin IRS putting a lien on Hunter Biden in 2015 to the already quite "powerful" dem/LLR-lefty Articles of Impeachment against Trump.

I would suggest adding this newest "powerful" "bombshell" Article right after the Article citing Trump for allowing rain to fall into already existing puddles and thereby not properly distributing fresh water across the fruited plain.

Drago said...

narciso: "the aaron mates link shows the aide was withheld for other reasons than the peach mint committee decided,"

I made note of that upthread for LLR-lefty Chuck benefit as well as his Amen Chorus of Lead Minion Gadfly and Gary.

Chuck said...

Qwinn-

No. TIME did a nice timeline on the original events. Trump began the day with a Tweet warning that Alabama would be "hit." 20 minutes later, the Birmingham NWS Twitter account corrected the President's erroneous warning. But still later that day, Trump again told reporters, and then indicated in a meeting with FEMA, that Alabama may be hit. And to make it all the more Trumpy, the President stated that the storm “may get a little piece of a great place: It’s called Alabama. And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It’s the size of — the storm that we’re talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also.”

It seems clear to me that Trump was just pushing back for the hell of it at that point. And making up shit about something (what?!?) "that just came up." I expect that the whole White House staff knew at that time how they had been schooled by Birmingham NWS, and had told Trump, and that Trump refused to back down.

https://time.com/5671606/trump-hurricane-dorian-alabama/

Qwinn, you're making up stuff that is far too reasonable for this case. Your notion is that a busy President, in the midst of preparing for a major hurricane, could possibly make a mistake in listing areas that could be affected. That is what any reasonable person would think. And any reasonable President, and his staff, could acknowledge such an error and move on.

But we're not talking about what a reasonable President, acting sensibly, might do. We're talking about Trump.

narciso said...

interesting among some of mayor howdy's backers, are a deputy director of the clandestine service, Charlie gilbert, another john bair who was head of the middle east taskforce circa 2010, when he retired,

Rabel said...

In advance of the storm making landfall, Trump tweeted that “In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.”

Trump was right at the time of the Tweet.

Narayanan said...

Re: Sharpiegate

Trump should have used crayons and got smudge fingers and cheeks and Melania should have been there clean him up.

So endearing.

Narr said...

So, there was this hurr'cane last year.

Narr
I seen it on the tee-vee

Narr said...

So, there was this hurr'cane last year.

Narr
I seen it on the tee-vee

Qwinn said...

Chuck:

Notice that your reply STILL ignores the fact that while Trump repeated an outdated forecast, the media reported, both then and now, that no such outdated forecast ever existed. The very article quoted by Ann today does it yet again. But listening to you, the media was completely fair to Trump in this matter, and Trump had no reason to call them out on anything.

This is why you're not worth engaging with. Ever.

Narr said...

Sorry for the doubie post, and jumping the gun on 2020--last year, this year, whatever.

Eager to set up the lawnchair and watch the end of a duodecade.

Narr
Or the beginning . . . oh never mind

Narayanan said...

Chuck said and linked to NY times Ukraine aid delay story.

Thanks.

Can you explain why Congress is good judge of foreign aid worthyness and also why FISA Courts are good judge of legitimate warrant emissions.

Narayanan said...

I'm surprised Professora Emerita has not explored etymology of bombshell.

Ordinance socialist please weigh in.

Are we talking shell casing or fully constructed bomb?

Chuck said...

Qwinn said...
Chuck:

Notice that your reply STILL ignores the fact that while Trump repeated an outdated forecast, the media reported, both then and now, that no such outdated forecast ever existed. The very article quoted by Ann today does it yet again. But listening to you, the media was completely fair to Trump in this matter, and Trump had no reason to call them out on anything.

This is why you're not worth engaging with. Ever.


Look at the timeline story that was published by TIME. It's detailed. It's accurate. It's all you need, to figure out the fundamental mistake, and then the relentless defense of that mistake by Trump. It's great, accurate reporting by TIME.

Look at the ridiculous Sharpie map that Trump used. It's from Thursday at 11am. It was obsolete by Sunday. And all the weather professionals knew it. And so when did Trump ever say, "Sorry, when I spoke on Sunday I didn't realize that Alabama was in the clear. Nobody updated me. I'm a busy guy, and I was relying on old information..."? Answer; never. Trump never admits a mistake. Trump denies his mistakes.

Drago said...

LLR-lefty Chuck: "No. TIME did a nice timeline on the original events."

LOL

No, they did not.

They are Time Magazine, which is all one needs to know.

But do keep up your loud and proud smearing Chuckie!! You know, I really think its beginning to work on readers here........

......
......

.....LOLOLOL

Sorry. I couldn't hold it in.

Drago said...

Qwinn (to LLR-lefty Chuck): "This is why you're not worth engaging with. Ever."

Quite so.

I myself posted direct links to NOAA twitter that showed Southern Alabama in the cone of concern for the hurricane track, which is what Trump was going by.

LLR-lefty Chuck, like his Kavanaugh-gang-rapist fake claims dem allies, has to just keep lying and lying and lying in the hopes that no one stops for a moment and says to themselves, oh yeah. That's that LLR-lefty chap who is only here to smear Trump and drive a wedge between Althouse and her readers.

Poor Chuck.

Poor, poor Chuck.

Jim at said...

The people who are still drooling all over themselves about 'Sharpiegate' would be the same fools who'd be screaming at Trump for not properly warning Alabama should Dorian made landfall there.

Seeing Red said...

Getting the path of a hurricane wrong is big news.

SNOWMAGEDDON!

How many of those have some of the readers lived thru?

Yancey Ward said...

Hurricane Chuck downgraded to tropical blowhard.

narciso said...

in other news:

https://streetwiseprofessor.com/china-syndrome-or-socialism-syndrome/#comments

Gk1 said...

I was a little disappointed to see they totally missed the big story of 2019 when Trump got two scoops of ice cream while others at the same event only got one. :-(

iowan2 said...

Hurricanes are boring. Are we ever going to talk about pecan pies again???Please? (with whipped cream on top)

Rusty said...

In a multiverse. I'm trying to think of a universe where Chuck makes sense. I've concluded there just isn't enough quantum randomness. Chuck is a frightful bore in any universe. he's kinda the universal constant of boring pendency..

Pookie Number 2 said...

Chuck: Trump never admits a mistake. Trump denies his mistakes.

Perhaps. But he’s still a reasonably successful president, and you’re still a dishonest laughing-stock.

iowan2 said...

Sharpie gate. vs peace and prosperity. It all becomes clear doesn't it?
The left and never Trumpers (yes redundant) are scared schiffless the Ghost to Ronald Reagan is starting to form, and it looks a lot like DJT. You would be insane too, with Trump being as popular as Reagan.

narciso said...

Earth 616 i think, its a world where they actually put acosta on a pike, michael moore was hunted down somewhere in the great plains

walter said...

There was an anti-Trump caller named "Chuck" who called himself a moderate LLR on Chris Plante show today. Guest host had to keep putting him on hold due to attempted filibuster.

Narayanan said...


I'm surprised Professora Emerita has not explored etymology of bombshell

Are we talking shell casing or fully constructed bomb

Ordinance specialist please weigh in.

Can bombshell explode or hurt anyone?