December 12, 2019

“Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his Conservative Party appeared to be on course for a solid majority in the British Parliament...”

“... according to an exit poll. A victory in the general election on Thursday would cement Mr. Johnson’s claim to 10 Downing Street, paving the way for Britain’s exit from the European Union in less than two months. For the prime minister, whose brief tenure has been marked by legal reversals, scorched-earth politics and unrelenting chaos, it was an extraordinary vindication. Defying predictions that he would be tossed out of his job, Mr. Johnson now seems likely to lead Britain through its most momentous transition since World War II.”

The NYT reports.

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MeatPopscicle1234 said...
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tim in vermont said...

The “chaos” was created for him by an intransigent opposition.

Bay Area Guy said...

Brexit bloody well here we come!

tcrosse said...

Defying predictions that he would be tossed out of his job...

Nobody predicted that. Well, maybe the Guardian.

gerry said...

I agree. I am afraid to be hopeful. But I am hopeful.

Qwinn said...

Definitely a sign of hope. We couldn't do it without the Left's complete dropping of the mask and out and proud demonstration of their totalitarian motives and goals.

We can be thankful that no matter how much it makes them lose, the Left is beyond the capability of even trying to put the masks back on. I think that era is over for good. The question remaining is, will a majority ever be *complicit* in those goals?

lane ranger said...

The comments in the NYT are what you would expect - Brits are apparently just as stupid as us deplorables who voted for Trump. We just don't know what's in our own best interests. No self-awareness at all.

eric said...

Exit polls?

While I like the result, I worry about accuracy.

We will know the truth soon enough.

Drago said...

In an "unexpected" twist, LLR-lefty Chuck adamantly opposed Brexit and spent inordinate amount of time lambasting the incredibly politically successful Nigel Farage.

At this point in time one has to ask: has there ever been an Althouse commenter who has been wrong more often than LLR-lefty Chuck?

(besides Inga I mean, which isn't her fault as she is a simpleton and cannot be held accountable for what she writes)

tim in vermont said...

Exit polls in the UK have been known to be unreliable.

Qwinn said...

I predict the exit polls are actually underestimating the conservative win. Exit polls say conservatives will have majority + 42. I say they'll have majority + 60.

gspencer said...

The UK MSM have been doing their part, saying it's too close to call, coming down to the wire, too many fence-sitters.

Qwinn said...

Skylark: Sure, but is the direction in which they are unreliable consistently biased toward the Left like they are here?

tcrosse said...

One would hope this is the end of the line for the unspeakable Jeremy Corbyn

GingerBeer said...

Early hints that this would be a substantial win for the Tories 1) The FTSE was up all day, 2) The Pound was also up, a 9 month high, and 3) Even at midday the home page of the BBC news had not one single article about the election. The exit polls must have been brutal.

tcrosse said...

The Telegraph puts the Tory majority at 86 seats.

Amichel said...

Worst performance by Labour in something like 75 years. Corbyn won't survive this debacle.

gspencer said...

In other good news, the mother of Hunter Biden's new child will get to depose him on Dec. 23.

Now that's gonna be a Festivus miracle!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/just-in-hunter-bidens-baby-mama-lunden-roberts-will-get-to-grill-biden-under-oath-about-money-he-made-from-burisma/

Qwinn said...

tcrosse: That's not how I read it. I think the Telegraph is saying that the Tories are predicting an 86 seat majority.

MikeR said...

Finally. Get it done.

stevew said...

Britain seems to have its share of deplorables, you know, the type that want to choose their leaders and their future rather than turn it all over to a cadre of super smart ELITE.

readering said...

Also showing huge win for Scottish Nationalists. Hmm.

Qwinn said...

Sorry tcrosse, seems you're correct, I misunderstood how they're defining "majority" in terms of seats. I thought the count meant how many seats beyond the bare minimum 326 they'd need for a majority, but it seems to mean how many more seats than the other parties combined they'd have.

Original Mike said...

Polls, schmoles. Bring me the real vote count!

Original Mike said...

OK, which ones are the Tories?

Original Mike said...

Oh. The good guys.

mccullough said...

Put a wall up against Ireland and get the fuck out of the EU.

Also, get your Muslims under control or send them to Merkel

Bay Area Guy said...

Jeremy Corbyn is a Tonghead.

MayBee said...

Ha ha

Ken B said...

I surely hope so.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"lane ranger said...
The comments in the NYT are what you would expect - Brits are apparently just as stupid as us deplorables who voted for Trump. We just don't know what's in our own best interests. No self-awareness at all."

Because of the 2017 election, the British Left thought they were in a position to ignore the underlying message of the Brexit referendum.
Because of the 2018 election, the American Left thinks they're in a position to ignore the underlying message of Trump's election.

Here's hoping for a similar result.

Bay Area Guy said...

The Sun says it's a Boris landslide.

Cheerio!

J. Farmer said...

When it comes to the UK actually exiting the EU, it’s always worthwhile to be suspicious and skeptical. If Boris does manage to form a new government, I’ll adopt a wait and see approach. As with so much with the EU, the devil is in the details.

Ken B said...

Readering
That would be a bonus! Scotland out! Out!

Anne in Rockwall, TX said...

Nigel Farage's Brexit Party stood down in any areas in which a seat might be lost due to his party getting votes. That is, he was all-in for Brexit and not his party, and so didn't campaign anywhere were he might play spoiler to a Brexit win.

tcrosse said...

According to stories in the Telegraph, there are a number of people who would have preferred to vote Labour, but not if it would put Corbyn in Number 10.

Steven said...

It is now 45 years since anyone even one millimeter to the left of Tony Blair has won a UK general election. The only question in UK politics anymore is whether anybody in the post-Blair Labour Party is capable of understanding this.

tim in vermont said...

Scotland should leave. The EU should make that possible.

Bay Area Guy said...

Best quote of the day from The Sun:

"One Labour candidate defending a seat in the once traditional Labour heartlands said: "The doorsteps have been grim. I'm f**ked."

Cheerio!

rehajm said...

Most momentous transition since Britain entered the EU, they meant to say but chose not to.

tim in vermont said...

Titania McGrath@TitaniaMcGrath

Just spoiled my ballot paper in the #GeneralElection2019

Instead of voting, I simply drew a huge ❌ in the box next to the Conservative candidate.

Take that, fascists.


Qwinn said...

So if the Tories get the predicted 86 seat majority, that'd be the biggest lead since Thatcher got a 102 seat majority in 1987. Not bad, Boris, not bad!

If the exit polls are skewed in the UK toward the Left as badly as they are here... too much to hope for Boris to actually beat Thatcher's number?

Kirk Parker said...

Drago:

"... is a simpleton and cannot be held accountable for what she copies and pastes".

FIFY.

Drago said...

Farmer: "If Boris does manage to form a new government,"

"If"?

If the polls are even halfway close the Tories will have a clear outright majority. There is no "if".

The new government will be the Tories and the DUP-ers who buy into specific policies on an as is basis.

One question I have now that the moron LibDems and their astonishingly stupid leader Jo Swinson are sinking into defeat (21 current seats likely down to 13) is where are they going? What's even the point of a LibDem party? They are labourites with attitude, but no real policy differences.

Unknown said...

Orange Man bad!

Blonde Man bad!

Boy, the elites are sure taking it in the shorts, aren't they.

Drago said...

BADuBois: "Boy, the elites are sure taking it in the shorts, aren't they"

Not just the fake "elites".

For our very own LLR-lefty Chuck, no doubt a huge Corbyn fanboy, there won't be enough gin in all of Michigan to drown his sorrows tonight.

Robert Cook said...

"One would hope this is the end of the line for the unspeakable Jeremy Corbyn"

Why is Corbyn "unspeakable?"

tim in vermont said...

"Why is Corbyn 'unspeakable?’"

You will have to ask the voters in the UK.

tcrosse said...

Why is Corbyn "unspeakable?"

He tolerates anti-semitism in the Labour party.

traditionalguy said...

Corbyn is a total Jew hater.Not that there is anything wrong with a mental illness. Crazy people need representation too.

Nigel Farage should get a Statue of himself on a horse with his spear killing the fire breathing Fourth Reich Dragon.

viator said...

Always vote for PM with your dog...
Boris votes

Drago said...

Robert Cook: "Why is Corbyn "unspeakable?"

LOL

Terrorist supporting anti-semitic marxist idiot piece of crap, which is why even 60%-70% of Labour voters want him to go away.

I was just listening to LBC coverage and the emcee was sharing what many Labour voters have been saying about Corbyn.

Sorry Stalinist Cookie, but even strong union workers in the north of England whose families swore they would never vote Tory have voted Tory because your boy Corbyn is just that despicable.

Just think about that, Corbyn is such a piece of dung that socialists are tossing him aside for how horrific a human being he is.

And Cookie thinks he can just gloss right over it all.

Easily the worst Labour performance in over 75 years!! And its for one reason: the complete and utter rejection of a marxist that Cookie thinks is just cool.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

AOC Joins the Left's Swelling Ranks of Anti-Semites with Corbyn Endorsement

Gross.
Why does this actress think she has the right to influence a foreign election? Shall we impeach her?

Drago said...

Corbyn has attended celebrations of terrorists who have killed British citizens (IRA and islamic jihadists).

But to a guy like Cookie, it doesn't compute that we should look down on such a person.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Even The New Yorker noticed

tim in vermont said...

Michael Tracey@mtracey

Everyone knows Corbyn has been a eurosceptic for his entire life but he got triangulated out of that electorally-viable position by recalcitrant Labour factions who refused to accept the results of a once-in-a-generation referendum with 72% turnout, end of story


I am just “retweeting” this stuff because I think it’s applicable to US politics. Lefty overreach. Insisting on positions the voters despise. Johnson will now be able to force the EU to actually negotiate, rather than just attempt to undermine the UK with impossible demands.

narciso said...

and supported every terrorist from the ira to hamas. a friend of the stb, Czech secret service, other than that, he's a fine bloke,

mccullough said...

Looks like AOC’s endorsement was the kiss of death.

Her other old white Socialist Man isn’t doing well either. Maybe Comrade Bernie shouldn’t tout AOC’s endorsement.

Kevin said...

Impeach!

Michael K said...

readering said...

Also showing huge win for Scottish Nationalists. Hmm.


The Scottish Enlightenment was many years ago. Like Ireland, the cream left.

I wonder if Nancy Pelosi believes in portents?

Steven said...

Most momentous transition since Britain entered the EU, they meant to say but chose not to.

Eh, except that wasn't one transition, it was three. Going from nothing to the EEC, going from the EEC to the Maastricht Treaty-defined EU, and going from the Maastricht(-and-Nice) EU to the EU Constitution ("Treaty of Lisbon", in the parlance of the lies told to enact it after the people of Europe rejected it) were each smaller transitions than Brexit. Though Brexit will likely be a smaller change than any two of those combined, that still makes it the most momentous single transition.

mccullough said...

Anyone heard from the Old White Man Billionaire Socialist Soros?

tim in vermont said...

Its Putin all over again! Says the blue checkmark crowd

Qwinn said...

The British Left, taking their cue from the American Left, has scheduled a no-confidence vote against Boris Johnson to be held no later than Decemeber 20, 2019.

mccullough said...

Putin saves England from Socialism. What a Magnificent Bastard.

Kim Philby weeps

Qwinn said...

(That was a joke, folks. Figured I better confirm that, given how impossible it's become to satirize the Left.)

rehajm said...

Blyth Valley desperately searching for more Labour votes. Will they find a few in the boot of the Rover?

narciso said...

some highlights,


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/12/the-stakes-in-britain.php

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I hope Boris doesn't plan on talking to foreign leaders from other.... nations. According to the American Corruptocrat Party - that action is illegal and would make Boris a Russian asset.

tim in vermont said...

https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1205258002166624257


Tell me if this should sound ominous to the Democrats:

“But Labour will have to learn lessons from this defeat. Above all by listening to those life long Labour voters who we lost in working class communities."

tcrosse said...

The kindle version of Boris' book, The Churchill Factor, has gotten more expensive since I bought it a few months ago. Still worth a read, and available you-know-where. It suggests that Boris is hugely influenced by Churchill, as another Bad Boy who pisses off the squares but gets things done. Sound familiar?

Michael said...

Narrow Brexit win in 2016 foreshadows narrow Trump win.
Tory landslide in 2019 foreshadows...

tim in vermont said...

"Blyth Valley desperately searching for more Labour votes. Will they find a few in the boot of the Rover?”

There is a Pennsylvania in England, in the Midlands I think. I drove through it once, and luckily I didn’t blink, or I wouldn’t have noticed it.

Kevin said...

“But Labour will have to learn lessons from this defeat. Above all by listening to those life long Labour voters who we lost in working class communities."

Or you could refer to them as racist deplorables and try to shame them back into your party.

Browndog said...

Blogger traditionalguy said...

Corbyn is a total Jew hater.Not that there is anything wrong with a mental illness. Crazy people need representation too.

Nigel Farage should get a Statue of himself on a horse with his spear killing the fire breathing Fourth Reich Dragon.


Word.

Farage stood alone at the cliff amidst the stampede, and coaxed his people back to the green pasture.

All while not holding positions of power or nobility.

Frickin' saint.

buwaya said...

British election coverage on the tele.

Huge news here -

http://www.rtve.es/

Everyone is taking the exit polls as gospel. It seems they are backed up by early results from several formerly solid constituencies.

Earnest Prole said...

Thereby proving the people are unworthy of the elite.

Yancey Ward said...

I really loved this part of the NYTimes link:

"Polls show a slim majority of people would now favor remaining in Europe, though campaigns for a second referendum have consistently fallen short in Parliament."

The NYTimes continues to be completely full of shit. If those polls showing a slim majority of people would favor remaining in the EU, you wouldn't be having the election you are tonight.

tcrosse said...

"Mr Corbyn has now cemented his place as the least popular and least successful Labour leader in modern history, far outstripping Michael Foot’s disastrous performance in 1983. Labour was likely to be wiped out in many of its former heartlands as the Tories broke through the “red wall” in the Midlands and the North." -Telegraph

buwaya said...

Much too late to wait for anything official.
Good night!

Pookie Number 2 said...

Robert Cook: Why is Corbyn "unspeakable?"

He celebrates those that intentionally murder the innocent. If you were a human being, you’d probably understand.

Seeing Red said...

BDS is as bad as TDS.

TJM said...

Good to see the British "deplorables" telling the braindead elite to take a hike. MBGA!

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

The Nexus of CNN-NYT-MSNBC = the axis of B-schitt.

Pookie Number 2 said...

I’m very happy to see Britain reject the explicitly anti-Semitic candidate, and I also think (or at least hope) that this reflects a broad revolution against the people that don’t play fair. We saw that in Wisconsin, we’re seeing it in Britain, and I think we’ll see it here in 2020.

Seeing Red said...

https://spectator.us/uk-election-live-blog-boris-johnson-vs-jeremy-corbyn/

That interview. It’s not our fault. People want us to take over all these industries. We couldn’t talk about anything because of Brexit.

Bwaaaaaaaa

Seeing Red said...

Then I started reading some of the twitter feeds. Raging BDS.

Sebastian said...

"Unspeakable" Corbyn, from Powerline (head over there for more):

"A British reader of the Times of London left this comment on a story:

. . . And on the other hand.. Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.

Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna. Attended meeting w/Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney. Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament. Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson. Attended Sinn Fein dinner w/IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.

Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane. Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists. Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS. Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview. Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time . . .

Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain. Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant. Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists. Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing . . .

Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist. Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP. Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag. Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun. Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker. Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.

Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime. Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS. Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria. Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted. Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela. Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“. Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader . . .

Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK. Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”. Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”. . . . "

And so on and so forth. Enough to make even Cook wince a little, no?

Seeing Red said...

They count ballots by HAND?

Look at those Sun photos.

Are they nuts?

h said...

I read in the last 24 hours a news report that said the election was too close to call, and another that said Boris Johnson might lose his own seat in Parliament. Why don't reporters who write articles that are shown to be so obviously wrong ever face any consequences? I suspect, with a little research I could soon put together examples of other news reports that talked about how impeachment was swinging toward the Democrats, and Republicans were divided, etc. The general problem is that reporters write articles about what they hope will be true, because they believe (with some evidence) that some significant number of people who read stories that say "everyone agrees with impeachment" will decide that they are for impeachment, and the article will become self fulfilling.

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Milwaukie guy said...

Talk about a sunrise. I'm smiling more broadly than I have in months.

William said...

There are pros and cons with Brexit. There are pros and cons with Boris. I don't see any pros with Corbyn.....If this turns out to be a historic win for Boris, it should be marked with an asterisk because it is a win over Corbyn.....It's reassuring that he lost but it's troublesome that he was a candidate.

Seeing Red said...

Get the Scots out of England. Since they’re enthralled with the EWWWWWWW, let them be a lackey.

12/12/19, 5:43 PM Delete

tcrosse said...

I read in the last 24 hours a news report that said the election was too close to call, and another that said Boris Johnson might lose his own seat in Parliament.

The Telegraph had similar articles, and I put it down to them tamping down over-confidence, as a Get Out The Vote move.

Seeing Red said...

Dame Margaret smiles.

tcrosse said...

It's reassuring that he lost but it's troublesome that he was a candidate.

There was a similar candidate here. It's good that she lost, but it's troublesome that she was a candidate.

narciso said...

if you were unclear, mujahiroun, is the group that inspired the London bridge attacker, who Corbyn pushed for it's founder bakri mohammed not to be deported to Lebanon, the ira were the soviet and sometimes Libyan proxy then, in the 80s, they bombed the hsbc headquarters in bishopsgate, canary wharf, (prime military targets, sarc) in the 90s,

Rory said...

The bookmakers, who really have to know. were offering over/unders in the area of 340-344 seats.

J. Farmer said...

@Drago:

The new government will be the Tories and the DUP-ers who buy into specific policies on an as is basis.

Perhaps I’m misreading you, but if the Tories form a clear majority, why would they need to go into coalition with the DUP?

Qwinn said...

I'm enjoying this UK Election live feed (found the link at Ace's):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaeN4-uAShE

Browndog said...

Juxtaposition:

If the exit polls in the UK are correct, this will be the worst defeat for the Labour Party since 1935.

______

BBC commentators characterize Johnson as fringe, right wing

Meanwhile...

The pound surges to its highest level since May 2018 as exit polls show Boris Johnson's Tories with a strong majority in the UK election

Bay Area Guy said...

BoJo's got the Mojo.

Maybe, next time the Brits have a National Vote, the "Remain" assholes should abide by the results?

Cheerio!

Yancey Ward said...

"Maybe, next time the Brits have a National Vote, the "Remain" assholes should abide by the results?"

It is doubtful they abide by this one.

Fruit Loop!

Pookie Number 2 said...

Enough to make even Cook wince a little, no?

No

Bay Area Guy said...
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Browndog said...

It is doubtful they abide by this one.

It's a certainty.

The same way 'those in power' will abide by Trump's re-election.

narciso said...

well Christopher steele was enlisted for this cause, as well, how'd that work out, so for once the right lizard one, (re hitchhiker's guide)

mockturtle said...

Corbyn is so repulsive that he can't even pull enough Labour votes to give him a victory. People I know in the UK--even those who don't like the Tories--refuse to support Corbyn.

Seeing Red said...

The Corbynistas will make an argument that victory is a bourgeois concept, and the only goal for true socialists is bloody defeat.

“And we have had another one. We knew he was incapable of leading. He's worst than useless.

robother said...

Like 2016 in the US, the predicted Land slid, just the tother way.

Bay Area Guy said...

The Get Trump Squad has given us 2 weak-ass Articles of Impeachment, and Trump's reelection.

The Globalists have given us Brexit.

When will they take the blinders off and LISTEN to the arguments?

narciso said...

the swung choked itself,

Amadeus 48 said...

Brits at least have two parties in their news coverage and some attempt to cover the view from the right. The Times, the Telegraph, and the Daily Mail have a center-right editorial orientation, and the Sun is certainly center right although they dated Tony Blair. There is no right side broadcaster, except perhaps Sky and whatever Fox can get across through cable.

The US has ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBCNPRPBSAPNYTWAPO on the left and FNCWSJ on the right, (but not the news pages of WSJ) and FNC at least gives a hearing to the left.

I guess it's a fair fight.


Amadeus 48 said...

"The Get Trump Squad has given us 2 weak-ass Articles of Impeachment, and Trump's reelection.

"The Globalists have given us Brexit."

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

tcrosse said...

It will be interesting to see what sort of trade deals can be worked out between the USA and post-Brexit UK. It will be a fine opportunity for Trump to make artful deals.

Milwaukie guy said...

Michael K: The Scottish Enlightenment was many years ago. Like Ireland, the cream left.

As a card-carrying, kilt-wearing part Scottish person, I so much agree. The best Scots emigrated with and helped build the empire. The "worst" Scots, the Scots-Irish, became one of the backbones of America.

Current Scotland is a tax sinkhole for the UK. Many are soccer-hooligans on the dole. They have a little slice of the North Sea oil and not much else. I'd like to see them try Scottish independence [and further integration into the Fourth Reich EU].

Scotland's best deal was to stop fighting the English with Catholic pretenders and join in the UK.

I may exaggerate a wee bit.




Seeing Red said...

The stock market!

MUSAC

China

Britain

Today is a good day.

NOT TIRED OF WINNING!

Seeing Red said...

I thought North Sea Oil was being shut down?

I know years ago that EU Fishery treaty they were in sucked.

Seeing Red said...

Jon Lansman, leader of Labour supporting Momentum, has said that the party's problem was that their manifesto was too long…

Speaking on ITV, Lansman said: “The policies in the manifesto are popular.

“Maybe the manifesto was too long and detailed.

“Maybe we needed a shorter, snappier manifesto.”

To be fair to him, it was 105 pages.

robother said...

"When will they take the blinders off and LISTEN to the arguments?"

To paraphrase a Nobel economist, first-pass answer is NEVER.

rehajm said...

Speaking on ITV, Lansman said: “The policies in the manifesto are popular.

Is that the pat leftie loser answer? Is there any point these wankers might consider people knew your polices and rejected them? None?

Ralph L said...

Why is Corbyn "unspeakable?"

He's in pursuit of the uneatable uncut penis fish.

Guildofcannonballs said...

"At this point in time one has to ask: has there ever been an Althouse commenter who has been wrong more often than LLR-lefty Chuck?"

If we go by commenting the right things for the wrong reasons I submit myself as the winner here.

Plus: I supported Bush.

Fuck me.

narciso said...

yes, you get that notion for Charles stross, whose laundry series became unreadable, his alt history, where there was no glorious revolution, and the French revolution was delayed for 75 years,

traditionalguy said...

OK. If the Scots-Irish were the worst part of the Scots meaning the National Covenanters signing in their own blood at Grayfriars Church that they would maintain the Reformed Religion were the best.

Howard said...

Good for Boris. Time to finish Brexit and see what happens

Ralph L said...

I know years ago that EU Fishery treaty they were in sucked.

That was a plot point in episodes of "The Coroner" and a show about the SAS.

Original Mike said...

British people: "What part of LEAVE did you not understand?"

Rory said...

"Maybe the manifesto was too long and detailed."

You have to have a long manifesto if you're hell-bent on slicing people into competing groups. "Life, liberty, and pursuit of Happiness" won't cut it.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Why didn't all those people Churchill schemed about win?

He didn't scheme far enough.

All that booze, and it was legendary, couldn't keep up with the proggies of his day.

Nothing has changed.

Except weak expats bitching about how great Spain (or whatever) must be in comparison.

Comparison is your Waterloo, son.

tcrosse said...

From the Telegraph:
Nigel Farage has said he will spend weeks next year as a warm-up speaker for Donald Trump’s campaign rallies, as he stared down the barrel of yet another wipeout of his party at a general election.

Drago said...

Farmer: "Perhaps I’m misreading you, but if the Tories form a clear majority, why would they need to go into coalition with the DUP?"

The Tories do not need the DUP, however the DUP are often with them philosophically.

Im just tallying up likely allies.

Nothing more than that.

Apologize for the confusion.

Qwinn said...

To reaffirm my prediction using the correct nomenclature.... I predict the Tories get a majority of 100+ seats. The exit polls are, as always, tilted to the Left.

Milwaukie guy said...

Scots-Irish were only the "worst" to the Anglican rulers. We were not only border fighters, but we carried the true religion, Presbyteriansim, to American shores.

I was being self-deprecating.

narciso said...

Churchill was victim to fatigue from nearly 20 years of tory rule.

Qwinn said...

And just for the record, at the time of that prediction, only 11 seats have been called out of 650.

gilbar said...

tcrosse said...
I read in the last 24 hours a news report that said the election was too close to call, and another that said Boris Johnson might lose his own seat in Parliament.


Well, According to our Poor Chuck; it was 'within the margin of error' :)

Seeing Red said...

I’m listening to the YTguys. They’re saying a lot of the same stuff I think about Progressives.

J. Farmer said...

Nigel Farage has said he will spend weeks next year as a warm-up speaker for Donald Trump’s campaign rallies, as he stared down the barrel of yet another wipeout of his party at a general election.

The Brexit Party's wipeout was preordained after Farage made a deal with Boris not to stand candidates in any Tory-held seats. No single politician in Britain deserves more credit for Brexit than Nigel Farage.

rcocean said...
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rcocean said...

Labour lost because they betrayed their working class voters. They wanted Brexit or at the very least for Labour to respect Democracy and support Breixt LIKE THEY PROMISED IN 2017.

Instead, Corbyn lied and deceived. He everything he could to sabotage Brexit, while claiming he was just neutral. He finally ended up with a Platform that promised another referendum, but that referendum on Brexit would just be between staying in the EU, and staying in the EU with a few changes. AND Corbyn was going to let 16 y/o vote AND EU citizens! So, even the dumbest Englishman knew Labour's leader was a globalist, open borders fraud.

Seeing Red said...

Good for Boris. Time to finish Brexit and see what happens

It’ll take at least a decade to see what happens.

rcocean said...

So now we'll see whether Boris is an honest man, or a globalist fraud. Will he give England A REAL brexit, or May's Fake Brexit?

Bay Area Guy said...

No welfare statism at home; no foreign entanglements abroad.

Keepin' it simple.......

Qwinn said...

Farmer, I'll point out that even looking at the 9 seats Labour has held so far, several would probably have gone to the Conservatives if Brexit had stood down there too.

Guildofcannonballs said...

from memmory:

I am, have been, will be, only one thing: An American.

Orson Welles.

Birkel said...

November of next year is going to be Lit AF.
Trump rolls.

rcocean said...

Labour tried to get votes by promising everyone a Pony for Christmas, but they couldn't overcome their globalist sell out on Brexit. Of course the Scots are for the EU and are left-wing as hell. The English need to declare their independence from them AND the EU.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"Labour lost because they betrayed their working class voters. They wanted Brexit or at the very least for Labour to respect Democracy and support Breixt LIKE THEY PROMISED IN 2017."

I've listened to their politicians. They couldn't even bother to hide their contempt for their constituents.

J. Farmer said...

@Qwinn:

Farmer, I'll point out that even looking at the 9 seats Labour has held so far, several would probably have gone to the Conservatives if Brexit had stood down there too.

Oh, I was not calling into question Farage's strategy, only pointing out that referring to Brexit Party's showing as a "wipepout" was a bit misleading.

Guildofcannonballs said...

QGIK'
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I wn't look it up but it coule be:

I am, have been, and will remain, only one thing: An American.

Sorry, this is probably accurate and makes my previous comments null.

It's all from memory, we know.

Seeing Red said...

I read in the last 24 hours a news report that said the election was too close to call, and another that said Boris Johnson might lose his own seat in Parliament.


What were the Big 3 saying in the run up to the 1980 election?

I read once Carter knew 3 weeks before he would lose.

chickelit said...

George is drowning in his Soros.

Guildofcannonballs said...

"Blogger William said...
There are pros and cons with Brexit. There are pros and cons with Boris. I don't see any pros with Corbyn.....If this turns out to be a historic win for Boris, it should be marked with an asterisk because it is a win over Corbyn.....It's reassuring that he lost but it's troublesome that he was a candidate."

Yeah your logic defeats my emotions, so fuck off. Smart logic guy everyone ought pay more attention to.

Gahrie said...

Of course the Scots are for the EU and are left-wing as hell. The English need to declare their independence from them AND the EU.

You've got that the wrong way around. Scotland is a dependency of England. It would be a bit like the rest of the U.S. kicking California out. (Some of you I know think this would be a good idea)

Guildofcannonballs said...

I've, with God i assume on my side,

minnesota farm guy said...

Wonderful! The little people have the self-satisfied and stultified elites on the run on both sides of the Atlantic!

Bay Area Guy said...

Gentle reminder to our Leftwing friends pushing this bogus impeachment -- there are consequences when you hit below the belt.

Trump's already appointed 25% of the federal judges on the appellate courts and 2 on SCOTUS. The 9th Circuit is now 50-50. If he wins a second term, these numbers go up. RBG is 86 and Breyer is 81.

Just sayin'.........

Dude1394 said...

“For the prime minister, whose brief tenure has been marked by legal reversals, scorched-earth politics and unrelenting chaos, it was an extraordinary vindication. ”

Boy that sounds familiar. Fake liberal propaganda appears to be the same everywhere.

Qwinn said...

I'll totally agree that nothing can be said about the Brexit party's true vote totals in this election due to the deal with the Tories. And Farage deserves a LOT of credit for putting his personal prospects aside for his principles.

Browndog said...

Also, the moderates got creamed too.

Seeing Red said...

MWGA

Tory voters have donned Make Workington Great Again caps as they celebrated the constituency turning blue for the first time in 98 years.

Mark Jenkinson won the seat with 20,488 votes – a majority of 4,176 – beating Labour's Sue Hayman on 16,312.

And Donald Trump promised not to interfere with British politics…

chickelit said...

If the British Left is anything like the American left, I predict there will be no introspection and no lessons learned; instead, they will focus on undermining future elections and democracy in general.

Leland said...

This is truly great news to me.

Big Mike said...

@Bay Area Guy, why do you think they're pushing this impeachment, bogus as it is?

TJM said...

Alan Dershowitz, one of America's greatest constitutional scholars, and Harvard Law Professor Emeritus and liberal Democrat said the Dems impeachment is unconstitutional

MayBee said...

Trump has already said he hopes to work out a trade deal right away after Brexit, right? As opposed to Obama who told the UK they shouldn't leave?

Big Mike said...

Getting back to the British election, I caution everyone that exit polls have been pretty fallible on this side of the Atlantic.

Original Mike said...

Aren't we talking real vote totals by now?

MayBee said...

Blogger chickelit said...
If the British Left is anything like the American left, I predict there will be no introspection and no lessons learned; instead, they will focus on undermining future elections and democracy in general.


I was just going to say the same thing. Time to double down and spiral inward.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Drudges' cunt cunted well.

Seeing Red said...

Hugh Grant:

The politically outspoken actor has been canvassing with Labour and Lib Dem candidates during the campaign and urged his fans to vote tactically to deny the Conservatives in marginal seats. But as he tonight laid eyes on these parties' woeful performance, he looked downcast as he gloomily stared at the result on his phone with his wife. In a short and sour admission of defeat, Grant tweeted: 'There goes the neighbourhood. He joined a chorus of glum Remain celebrities (right) who voiced their misery as the prospect of second Brexit referendum went up in smoke. Scores of triumphant Brexiteers immediately seized on the exit poll to gloat at Grant, who has been scathing of Eurosceptics during the campaign.

BamaBadgOR said...

BREAKING NEWS:
U.S, District Courts in Hawaii and Seattle, and 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in California, issue international injunction blocking Boris Johnson's landslide pro-Brexit win in UK elections.

tim in vermont said...
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Original Mike said...

Had me there for a second.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Trump and Boris will do the right things.

It must hurt Althouse, to see this. All those ideas with support that sounded so much better than merely "make Brittian great like before America took their cunt and prosperity and fucked it."

Good people working for the folks.

She'll get over it though, to her credit.

^sorry I don't know if it's United Kingdom or England or Great Brittain or whatever.

You fucks clean it up and I'll know.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Tiny well-read cunts ought to be the drivers though.

Real drivers know how absurdly funny that is.

How stupid do you have to be in 2019 to bet against America?

MayBee said...

I obviously don't know who votes where, because Google has the election results looking dire for Boris.

Browndog said...

MayBee said...

Trump has already said he hopes to work out a trade deal right away after Brexit, right? As opposed to Obama who told the UK they shouldn't leave?


More than that, Obama told them, before the vote, if they left the EU they'd get shuffled back to the end of the line as far as trade.

Browndog said...

Blogger BamaBadgOR said...

BREAKING NEWS:
U.S, District Courts in Hawaii and Seattle, and 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in California, issue international injunction blocking Boris Johnson's landslide pro-Brexit win in UK elections.


Worse, 19 women over the next week, will swear Boris said and did inappropriate things to them in grade school.

Original Mike said...

I see what you mean, MayBee.

Rory said...

"Aren't we talking real vote totals by now?"

I don't think they do the thing where this or that precinct reports, and the vote mounts till everything is in. When the votes are all counted in a district, they just announced the totals.

Browndog said...

Aside:

Everyone knows Corbyn is a straight up commie, which explains why Bernie had his staff sorta campaign for him, and why AOC gave a full throated endorsement.

tim in vermont said...

Glenn Simpson says! Putin!

https://twitter.com/lukeharding1968/status/1205108799926870016

J. Farmer said...

The Scottish National Party is very confusing to me. I don't have any problem in principle with Scotland leaving the UK. But the SNP wants in the EU. So they don't want to be ruled by London but they do want to be ruled by Brussels.

tim in vermont said...

If you extrapolate out from the elections that have been decided, it’s Boris in a landslide. There is one seat that had never voted anybody but labor in over a century that has gone his way.

tim in vermont said...

Here’s another one:

The Spectator Index@spectatorindex
BREAKING: The Labour Party has lost the seat of Leigh for the first time in ninety-seven years>

Original Mike said...

Google has it tied right now,

tim in vermont said...

Andrew Sullivan@sullydish
The US mainstream media just couldn't see this happening. They really have no clue. Worst performer: the New York Times. Their bias made their coverage a joke to anyone watching closely.


He probably has this tweet programmed as a macro key.

daskol said...

The irony is that Corbyn himself was once supportive of Brexit and came from the Brexit supporting part of Labor, but “became” opposed to it when he rose to party leadership to broaden his appeal. What a hapless shmuck.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

The great Douglas Murray on Corbyn (read up, Cookie):

https://spectator.us/labour-anti-semitism-shame-never-forgiven/

one other voice rings in my ears as I write this. The voice of an Israeli Jewish friend. Having not been back to the UK in some years I hear now the question he asked me as we traveled in a taxi together in Jerusalem last year. ‘You know, I thought I knew Britain, Douglas’ he said to me. ‘Good and bad, I thought I knew it. But how do you explain Jeremy Corbyn?’ This was just after the ‘wreath row’ when Jeremy Corbyn was accused of laying a wreath at the grave of the men who killed the Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics in 1972. ‘I mean — honoring the men who killed the athletes at Munich?’ my friend went on, shaking his head in quiet amazement. ‘And this man is accepted by the British public?’

Jeremy Corbyn will lose this election and every effort should be put into ensuring that he loses it big: that what happens on Thursday is not just a defeat, but a defeat of such crushing totality for the Labour party that it takes it years to recover.... Other left-wing parties may emerge and flourish. But the Labour party must never be forgiven for what it has offered to the public at this election. What Corbyn has brought into the mainstream has toxified Britain and the party that allowed it to happen should be held to account.

I pray the American people display the same common sense next November.

mockturtle said...

Chickelit quips: George is drowning in his Soros.

:-)

Browndog said...

Corbyn has been a commie nutjob since the 1990's.

How he came to lead the Labor Party is beyond me.

Michael K said...

The Scottish National Party is very confusing to me.

Think of AOC and project her to the UK.

Even Labour is not that crazy.

MayBee said...

I saw someone on Twitter say the thing to learn here is that people don't like election results overturned, and warned Democrats to keep that in mind.

I have a lot of British friends who had convinced themselves that UK really did not mean to vote for Brexit. That idea is gone now.

daskol said...

Nobody I know in London is the least bit surprised nor was there much suspense about this outcome, although it appears that the Tory majority may be even bigger than anticipated. Boris Johnson is a very impressive guy and maybe when he’s done being PM in blighty he can come over here and run for president since he was born in NY and is a natural born US citizen or was anyway as a child.

Not only did Nigel Farage campaign more effectively than anybody else for the Leave referendum, he facilitated the Tory majority which was all but assured when he had his Brexit Party and evening some UKIP allies stand down when he endorsed Johnson. There’s some spirit left in the Brits, and even the lifelong Labor folks I speak with are not as gripped by derangement and hatred as our countrymen are in defeat. They will get on with it, as the vast majority want to do, which means bye bye EU.

Michael K said...

It would be a bit like the rest of the U.S. kicking California out. (Some of you I know think this would be a good idea)

No, it would be like California seceding and then wondering why the supermarket shelves were bare.

J. Farmer said...

Earlier today Steve Sailer wrote a post, "Is Jeremy Corbyn Anti-Semitic?":

"Whenever I hear accusations that Jeremy Corbyn is anti-Semitic, I ask myself: Isn’t Jeremy Corbyn Jewish?

Eventually, it occurs to me that I am confusing Jeremy Corbyn, who isn’t Jewish, with Bernie Sanders, who is.

I’m pretty clueless about Britain, but I did look into this controversy last year and it looked like somewhere between a nothingburger and the inevitable outcome of having a lot of Muslim immigration.

P.S., here’s the exit poll from the 2017 UK election. The Tories then did very well among the old and among Jews, and very badly among the young and Muslims. If you are going to invite in huge numbers of Muslims, they will eventually have candidates representing their views.

It’s not wholly impossible that American Jews will learn some lessons about immigration policy from British Jews.

But it is unlikely."

Ken B said...

Farmer
Regional separatists are always grudge holders. They have 400 years of slights, real and imagined, to hold against Westminster. They don’t have a grudge against Brussels, yet.

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