December 27, 2019

"I guess Justin T doesn’t much like my making him pay up on NATO or Trade!"


ADDED: Speaking of Trump and movies... I wondered why Jon Voight is trending on Twitter today. It's this:

AND: That Voight clip was from a few days ago, but Voight is boosted today by this Trump tweet, which just says Voight is "fantastic" in a new TV role and in a bunch of old movies.

UPDATE: Apparently, the edit to "Home Alone 2" was made years ago, before Trump became President. So: false alarm.

158 comments:

chuck said...

Cutting the scene was a great Trump commercial. At last we know the sound of one hand clapping.

Charlie said...

Imaging showing this to someone in 1989.

John henry said...

I really, really, really like that PDJT is making other countries pay the NATO dues they agreed to.

I'd like it even better, if he pulled the US out of NATO. What is the benefit of NATO to us?

Where is the Quid pro quo for us spending more than $650mm per year defending Europe?

What's in it for us?

John Henry

Ken B said...

Does anyone believe the story from the network?

Speaking as a Canadian, I approve this derogatory mockery of our Prime Minstrel.

Expat(ish) said...

Why does Justin Timberlake care?

-XC

Lucid-Ideas said...

When I was a young 20-something edgelord I used to think that putting "In God We Trust" on money, motifs, and government buildings was somehow sacrilegious because of America's official policy of separation of Church and State and the freedom of religion.

I don't think so anymore. People forget that a few years ago we killed Bin Laden. A truly evil man, dedicating his life to evil and the destruction of thousands of lives in 2001.

When they popped him and brought out his body they confirmed affirmatively his death by saying over a secured-satellite connection, "serving God and Country."

gilbar said...

i just found out, that the midnight cowboy is Angelia Jolie's DAD!
i can't decide if that bother's me or not

mockturtle said...

Separation of church and state is not the same as separation of God and state. [Although I'm sure atheists could argue it does]. Unlike England, we have no official state Church but it doesn't mean we have to keep God out of the picture. He was, after all, a huge factor in our founding.

BTW, Voight could be cast as Jimmy Carter. If the occasion arose. Which it won't.

Chuck said...

Wow, Althouse, I didn't think you'd blog this story. It has been such an embarrassment for the Trump family. Because, naturally, dumb Trump cultists imagined that the Trump scene was cut because of some anti-President Trump bias in Canada. Don Jr. went off on it in a psycho tweet that is laughable. Of course.

The simple fact is that about 8 minutes of the film were cut to fit broadcast time limitations... in 2014.

The most interesting thing I have read about this howler of a story came out of an interview that Matt Damon did with The Hollywood Reporter, where Damon explains how all Trump movie cameos came about:

Have you ever met Trump?

No. The deal was that if you wanted to shoot in one of his buildings, you had to write him in a part. [Director] Martin Brest had to write something in Scent of a Woman — and the whole crew was in on it. You have to waste an hour of your day with a bullshit shot: Donald Trump walks in and Al Pacino’s like, “Hello, Mr. Trump!” — you had to call him by name — and then he exits. You waste a little time so that you can get the permit, and then you can cut the scene out. But I guess in Home Alone 2 they left it in.


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/matt-damon-george-clooney-trump-suburbicon-racism-america-1034503

jnseward said...

No doubt many conservatives will be a little embarrassed by Jon Voight’s association of divine providence with our favorite President, but, to coin a phrase, in your heart you know he’s right.

Narayanan said...

Don't forget Jon Voight in Anaconda!

robother said...

Voight's comments capture the rising anger in the heartland. The Left seems determined to take this beyond politics into a coup, risking open civil war. An illegitimate impeachment pursued through 2020 would poison a Democrat victory in the election.

n.n said...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Separation of religion (i.e. moral philosophy) and State. Today, the established religion is Pro-Choice, selective, opportunistic, founded under the Twilight faith, practiced with a liberal ideology, in deference to mortal gods.

Lurker21 said...

I would say that one doesn't have to personalize everything like that. It's highly unlikely Trudeau made the decision himself. But Twitter has a logic all its own, and you know that references to Trudeau will show up in the comments and retweets.

About NATO: we ought to have close relationships with the UK and France (to the degree that we have ever had a close relationship with France) because they still have viable militaries and can do things with us when it becomes necessary. For the rest, I can't help thinking that people in 1920 may have been asking, "Why do we have troops in Germany? What's the point of that?" Pulling them out didn't work so well that time.

Bay Area Guy said...

I hated "Midnight Cowboy" but "Deliversnce" (at the time) was scary and excellent.

Chuck said...

I didn't think that I would need to post the corrective on this faux-story. But never underestimate the credulous paranoia of TrumpWorld. And especially, never underestimate the extent to which their newsgathering is siloed into rabidly pro-Trump propaganda outlets.

Here is CNN, this morning:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/26/politics/home-alone-trump-justin-trudeau/index.html

traditionalguy said...

Time to watch Deliverance again. It has a great cast , including its author, great banjo music and delivers a lot of reality for a Hollywood movie. The Chattooga River is the star.

gilbar said...

Our Poor Chuck said...
. It has been such an embarrassment for the Trump family


Serious Question:
Chuck? Are you mentally Retarded?

Bob Smith said...

Well; at least Trumps twitter shot didn’t cost $35 million like that bogus Russia “investigation”.

JML said...

Chuck is the perfect example of people who don’t get Trump. He’s like Data in Star Trek when he’s told a joke. He just can’t get it because he’s missing the humor chip.

Chuck said...

...such an embarrassment for the Trump family...

bagoh20 said...

OK. Imagine it was Obama's cameo. Can you see now why the excuse is ridiculous? Besides that, mostly from the hate, everything involving Trump is a big deal now, much more than any other President, so a lot of people would watch just to see that cameo, both friend and foe. It's the last thing any intelligent person looking for ratings would remove. Think about that whole movie and tell me how Trump's minutes have the least commercial value.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

“Serious Question:
Chuck? Are you mentally Retarded?”

It’s entirely possible. Look, Trump doesn’t care about the cameo in the dumbass movie. Get real. What he does see is an opportunity for a populist snipe at Trudeau regarding trade and Canada’s NATO responsibilities. All part of the larger game, and I find it staggering that the Left is still trying to puzzle the Twitter thing out. Maybe they should spend more time with their kids.

Koot Katmandu said...

Great now you got this music stuck in my head. I mean I like but not stuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGORPUzLxtU

bagoh20 said...

Yep, every time the left throws a punch they drop their guard and stick out their chin. Poor embarrassed Trump, how will he get through this?

Freder Frederson said...

Whatever the reason for the cut, how on earth do you blame it on Trudeau?

Chuck said...

bagoh20 said...
Yep, every time the left throws a punch they drop their guard and stick out their chin. Poor embarrassed Trump, how will he get through this?


What was the "punch" thrown by "the left" in this case?

The CBC edited the film, for time, in 2014. Is that the "punch"? Is the CBC "the left"?

Pretty clearly, the one person who went overboard on this story was Jr. Presuming an insidious, massive media conspiracy when there was none at all.

Achilles said...

Freder Frederson said...
Whatever the reason for the cut, how on earth do you blame it on Trudeau?

Just another example of how stupid you have to be to support Democrats.

Here it is in crayons moron: IT IS A JOKE

Darrell said...

I hope Chuck takes up collecting antique hand grenades in the new year. Especially those from Eastern European sources.

Michael said...

Freder

Easy. Imagine Hillary was cut from a scene and Trump were President. Do you not think he would be blamed? By you? Imagine further that the movie was shown on state owned TV.

chuck said...

>> Whatever the reason for the cut, how on earth do you blame it on Trudeau? <<

Oh, oh, another sucker stuck on literally.

When will they ever learn?
when will they ever learn?


You should learn the rule, take Trump seriously but not literally.

Achilles said...

Thank you for your contribution to the Trump 2020 campaign Chuck.

You are such a piece of shit no decent person could not be embarrassed being associated with you.

I don’t want moderation, but I understand why Ann is probably going to do it.

Michael K said...

Chuck and Freder seem to be doing a comedy act today.

bagoh20 said...

"What was the "punch" thrown by "the left" in this case?"

You trying to make something of it. As usual, you think you have something terribly derogatory, but it's nothing, and it will backfire as always. Regardless of the truth, the efforts to attack Trump are so unrelenting and predictable that people now automatically attribute bad motives. Congratulations. That's the result of your hard work.

Drago said...

Once again, it is very healthy that LLR-lefty Chuck has completely dropped his mask and is now simply posting as what he is: a rabid leftist intent upon overturning the 2016 election and returning the dem party to absolute political dominance in order to fundamentally transform the United States into a leftist wet dream.

If there was any doubt as to this being true LLR-lefty Chuck fully dispelled any remaining doubts with his Christmas Day obama messiah-worship/adoration commentary. It has to be read to be believed in how insanely worshipful of obama it was.

But again, clarity and transparency is a good thing.

gilbar said...

i wondered if Our Poor Chuck was Mentally Retarded,
And he posted that he thinks that Ashley Feinberg is part of the Trump Family
Oh, you POOR CHUCK ;(

JRoberts said...

On Christmas Day, I watched a History Channel series from 2012 called "The Men Who Built America". It was a lightweight retelling of Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Carnegie and others during the period between the Civil War and WWI.

Interspersed, there was commentary from historians and some business leaders like Jack Welsh, Carley Fiorina, Mark Cuban and, yes, Donald Trump.

In reading the reviews from 2012, even then Trump was getting dumped on by the critics - I assume due to the Obama birther stuff.

Haters gotta hate, I guess.

gilbar said...

i want Our Poor Chuck to know, that i apologize,
I shouldn't be making fun of the intellectually disabled

Chuck said...

Achilles said...
Freder Frederson said...
Whatever the reason for the cut, how on earth do you blame it on Trudeau?

Just another example of how stupid you have to be to support Democrats.

Here it is in crayons moron: IT IS A JOKE


There was another Trump tweet, and I am surprised that Althouse didn't include it and that none of you have mentioned it. It was Trump's tweet on the morning that Fox & Friends embarrassed themselves with a half-baked story about media "censorship" in the CBC editing of Home Alone 2. Trump wrote that "the movie will never be the same (just kidding)."

This could have been handled as "a joke." But it wasn't. Not by Jr; not by Fox & Friends; not by millions of Trump fanatics all on a hair trigger for any insult to PDJT. They all took it seriously. Which makes the blowback all the more delicious.

JAORE said...

No. The deal was that if you wanted to shoot in one of his buildings, you had to write him in a part.

Sounds like a smart capitalist and showman to me. The producers wanted the location. Trump wanted the exposure. Almost free product placement if you will.

And Chuck, you shor gotta purddy mouth.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

And the “making” in the “making him pay up” line. When directed at a peer, that’s a straight-up punking and the “Justin T” suggests a similar lack of respect. I will say that Trump must have a visceral dislike of Trudeau. And that’s going to keep ol’ Justin T wrong-footed in all his dealings with Trump.

Drago said...

gilbar: "i wondered if Our Poor Chuck was Mentally Retarded,
And he posted that he thinks that Ashley Feinberg is part of the Trump Family
Oh, you POOR CHUCK ;("

Just wait until LLR-lefty Chuck jumps back into The Great Pecan Pie Conspiracy!!

Remember that one? LLR-lefty Chuck wanted people dragged into court under oath to answer questions about Pecan Pie pictures and ingredients used and how Sarah Sanders might actually prove she baked the pie.

Not unlike how LLR-lefty Chuck and his lefty allies went after Sarah Palin and demanded to see her medical records to prove she was the actual mother of Trig Palin.

We see this psychosis on the left/FakeConLLR-left over and over and over again.

Just think about how bad its going to be when Trump wins reelection!!

Personally, I'm looking forward to all of LLR-lefty Chuck's and Freder's and ARM's and Inga's and Ritmo/HoaxPPT's future meltdowns.

It's going to be so much fun.

donald said...

I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you that part of the deal filming a show in somebody’s place might include throwing them a small on screen bone.

Drago said...

BTW, anyone else catch the reports of corporate cash repatriation that was a key component of Trumpian policy that LLR-lefty Chuck said would never happen?

LLR-lefty Chuck swore up and down that Trump would never get manufacturing job increases in the US and Trump would never achieve even a single completed Trade Deal and that it would be impossible for Trump to renegotiate NAFTA and that repatriation of corporate cash back to the US was also a never to be realized pipe dream!!

Meanwhile, $1 Trillion in repatriated cash later............

If the question is when FakeCon LLR-lefty Chuck's predictive capabilities reputation will recover, a first-pass answer is never.

We really ought to make a long long long list of all the predictions our FakeCon LLR-lefty Chuck made that blew up in his face and then extend that list with all of the silly democratic talking point predictions that Chuckie is pushing now that will also implode in the coming months/years.

I mean, I know it would take a significant amount of time to break out ALL of LLR-lefty Chuck's moronic failed economic and foreign policy predictions, but time might be saved if we just gathered all the previous lists made of Media Matters lies and Rachel Maddow's weird musings since those comprise the bulk of what banned commenter LLR-lefty Chuck has been regurgitating here at Althouseblog.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Seems to me if Chuck's dad had only been as decent as Trump's papa, no tall feat I'm sure Chuck would agree, Chuck would have been potUS.

Chuck's dad must have been a real piece of turd, an under-cooked potato giving Ebeneezer (1951 film) visions of ghosts as it were.

Chuck we understand and we love you, except we don't want you around anymore. Good luck on all those impending victories your vast intelligence will surely bring your way.

Lucid-Ideas said...

I will never forget that Jon Voight bit Cosmo Kramer. Not cool Jon Voight. Not cool

rcocean said...

Once again, our crazy President doesn't understand reality. The Prime Minister of Canada does NOT edit TV movies on the CBC. What an idiot! Some fascists will assert he was "Making a Joke" but I see nothing funny in mocking one of our biggest Trading partners and oldest allies. This is how Hitler started!

rcocean said...

John Voight, a great actor who played in a lot of mediocre movies. Liked him in Deliverance and....let me think.

narciso said...

he was also the secretary of defense in the first transformers, a nsa bureaucrat in the enemy of the state, and a general in a little remembered damon wayans film,

narciso said...

oh the hearst like publisher in fantastic beasts, a president in season 7 of 24,

Laslo Spatula said...

There was the old cliche of making a stupid face and the mother saying to the effect of 'be careful or it will stay like that'.

That seems to now apply to adults feigning indignance at Trump.

They had to pretend to be stupid to not get the jokes or the point of what Trump says, and now they are indeed stuck like that.

And it is dawning on them that they will have to keep up the willful stupidity for another 5 years.

(and -- yes, I know the inevitable response is that they ARE stupid etc etc -- but if they WERE stupid they wouldn't be getting so frustrated, because it would just be surface noise to them; they are suffering because they believe they are highly intelligent but have boxed themselves into a position of ignorance, and now can't find a plausible dignified way out -- and the commoners know it and are laughing at them).

There's only so much cock you can suck to appear to be gay before it really doesn't matter.

I am Laslo.

Iman said...

Never fault stupidity for that which can be blamed on too many Molsons, too much smoked meat and the lethargy brought on by too much cold weather.

Jim at said...

Dozens of people watching Home Alone 2 on the CBC notice Trump's cameo is cut out.

Thanks to the CBC's stupidity (even if it was in 2014), millions of people now know about Trump's cameo in Home Alone 2 whereas they wouldn't have before.

Truly blessed by his enemies.

narciso said...

prime minister Zoolander and his goofy foreign secretary, chrysta freeland, thought they could get a better deal than lopez obrador, because he's Mexican, the cbc covers up a lot like the snc Lavalin scandal, what they pretended cheney's Halliburton matter was really about, then again they were knee deep in the oil for food scandal back in the 00s, as well, through the Power company which in turn was involved with total Aquitaine in france,

narciso said...

that's entirely possible, then again the way they treated conrad black, who was a victim of pat fitzgerald, it's not that surprising,

Jim at said...

John Voight, a great actor who played in a lot of mediocre movies. Liked him in Deliverance and....let me think.

Heat with Pacino, DeNiro, et al.

eric said...

I absolutely love when Trump jokes around on twitter and it sends the left and Never Trump into apoplectic fits.

Makes the joke even more funny.

They must be seriously miserable people.

narciso said...

wasn't he also in the Italian job, I vaguely recall,

narciso said...

I may have been mistake, but he was in national treasure series,

Curious George said...

Chuck: What you get when you try to put 10 pounds of douche in an 8 pound bag.

narciso said...

anyways Canada is 1/10th the us economy, and it's growth rate is pathetic, I don't know why they didn't bring back the reform party, the blanc mange conservatives have been dead since the 90s,

Curious George said...

"narciso said...
wasn't he also in the Italian job, I vaguely recall"

No

"Blogger narciso said...
I may have been mistake, but he was in national treasure series"

Yes, as Nicolas Cage's dad.

eric said...

Wasn't he also Angelina's dad in the Lara Croft movies?

Narayanan said...

Suppose Trump Cameo had been restored for this showing.

Discuss ripples effect.

narciso said...

yes he was, the cbc makes nbc seem like fox,

Michael K said...

Which makes the blowback all the more delicious.

Nothing like that of next November 4, Chuck. That will be a treat. Please have someone take a photo of you screaming at the sky.

Mr. Majestyk said...

Drago said: "If there was any doubt as to this being true LLR-lefty Chuck fully dispelled any remaining doubts with his Christmas Day obama messiah-worship/adoration commentary. It has to be read to be believed in how insanely worshipful of obama it was."

So I went back and read the Christmas Day thread, where I found this lol gem from Drago: "Ruttenberg has his head so far up obama's a** he can almost, almost, see LLR-lefty Chuck's feet!!!!" After beholding this eloquent gem of a comment, it is incumbent upon me to proclaim Drago the "Shakespeare of the Althouse commentariat." Verily.

narciso said...

anyways the point is the progs, have nearly total control of the media and the legal infrastructure, it doesn't much matter who is appointed to one or another office, they are in precision coordination (redacting) whether it's macron, Trudeau, et al, when there is an opposition, they arrange enough of a two minute hate to prevent any challenger in france, Canada, et al, through runoffs with splinter parties, this is the normal state of politics in the west, it takes remarkable willpower for a Johnson a Netanyahu to prevail,

FullMoon said...

"When he makes claims like this, the press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally."

TJM said...

Trudeau is a nothing, a poseur, a loser - not fit to tie President Trump's shoelaces

Kevin said...

The important question is: now that we have so many sources of uncensored and commercial-free ways to enjoy entertainment, why show anything that has to be cut for time or any other reason on any platform? If someone wants to watch Home Alone 2, they can bring it up in literally seconds, completely uncensored, uninterrupted, and at its intended speed, and watch it entirely at their leisure. The same applies to virtually any form of recorded entertainment from the last 120 years. What purpose does it serve to show butchered versions of anything at all? Just stop with the whole practice.

narciso said...

ah Donald Sutherland that's who was in the Italian job, kieffer's father who once upon a time hung out with jane fonda and the late peter boyle,

Narayanan said...

How many recall Conrack?

In this uplifting drama based on the memoir "The Water is Wide," Pat Conroy (Jon Voight) accepts a teaching position on an isolated island in South Carolina. There he finds a class of black students who are not only illiterate, but also wanting for simple personal hygiene. Conroy contradicts the lax institutional standards and exposes his students to a wide range of topics, but those in power do not take kindly to his efforts to overturn their racist policies.
______&&&&&&&++++++

Such island background is possibly where Clarence Thomas grew up.

Voight knows the Democrats.

FullMoon said...

Chuck is "on the spectrum". I have previously posted a link to his comment regarding that.
Since that admission on his part, I have generously refrained from intentionally triggering him.

Rarely will I mention his titty twisting fantasies, his pecan pie meltdown, or other interesting proclivities of his.

Besides, others do it better than I (me?).

narciso said...

the chum that must be cleaned up:


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/the-lies-and-distortions-by-the-hatchet-men-at-fusion-gps

Freder Frederson said...

Meanwhile, $1 Trillion in repatriated cash later............

Remember the second half of the promise. The repatriated cash (and lower corporate taxes) would result in an economic boom. 4, 5, 6, hell even maybe 7%, GDP growth. Oh yeah and the tax cuts were going to pay for themselves. Didn't work out that way did it? And if you hide behind the booming stock market, that is partially because that repatriated cash has been used not for new investment in factories but in buying back stock.

Here it is in crayons moron: IT IS A JOKE

So can you explain to me (use crayons if you must) how or why this "joke" is funny or the underlying truth Trump was getting at with his "joke". Seems to me he was just pissed off that he got cut out of the movie on Canadian television and is acting out like a spoiled six year old brat.

Michael K said...

Nobody can explain anything to you, Freder.

J. Farmer said...

@John Henry:

I really, really, really like that PDJT is making other countries pay the NATO dues they agreed to.

He isn't and they aren't.

I'd like it even better, if he pulled the US out of NATO. What is the benefit of NATO to us?

Agree completely. NATO is 30 years past obsolete.

J. Farmer said...

bagoh20:

Besides that, mostly from the hate, everything involving Trump is a big deal now, much more than any other President, so a lot of people would watch just to see that cameo, both friend and foe.

Personally, I would never sit through Home Alone 2 to see a three-second Trump cameo. I wonder how many people today even get the Trump/Plaza Hotel in-joke.

J. Farmer said...

@Freder Frederson:

So can you explain to me (use crayons if you must) how or why this "joke" is funny or the underlying truth Trump was getting at with his "joke". Seems to me he was just pissed off that he got cut out of the movie on Canadian television and is acting out like a spoiled six year old brat.

It could certainly be the latter. Trump has proven himself to be exceptionally thin-skinned and petty. But you could also take it as a joke. That is, Trump does not actually believe Trudeau was involved in the decision but is playing up their recent spat.

Remember the second half of the promise. The repatriated cash (and lower corporate taxes) would result in an economic boom. 4, 5, 6, hell even maybe 7%, GDP growth. Oh yeah and the tax cuts were going to pay for themselves. Didn't work out that way did it? And if you hide behind the booming stock market, that is partially because that repatriated cash has been used not for new investment in factories but in buying back stock.

Not to mention the trillion-plus dollars of annual deficit spending that the federal government is pumping into the system.

Automatic_Wing said...

Of course Trump doesn't believe that Justin Trudeau personally ordered his freaking scene to be cut.

He's just needling Trudeau a bit. It's all part of his pro wrestling heel persona.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jkghtyxZ6rc

Chuck said...


Blogger Automatic_Wing said...
Of course Trump doesn't believe that Justin Trudeau personally ordered his freaking scene to be cut.

He's just needling Trudeau a bit. It's all part of his pro wrestling heel persona.


Well then he better explain it to Junior, who freaked out about the terrible liberal media conspiracy against The Daddy’s film cameo.

Triggered indeed.

Mary Beth said...

Besides, others do it better than I (me?).

Than I (do).

J. Farmer said...

Well then he better explain it to Junior, who freaked out about the terrible liberal media conspiracy against The Daddy’s film cameo.

I think being fake outraged on Twitter is pretty much Don, Jr.'s full time job.

Curious George said...

"Cuck: Well then he better explain it to Junior, who freaked out about the terrible liberal media conspiracy against The Daddy’s film cameo."

Freaked out? Hahaha What did he do post six times on a blog about it?

What a fucking tool you are Chuck.

Chuck said...


Blogger FullMoon said...
Chuck is "on the spectrum". I have previously posted a link to his comment regarding that.
Since that admission on his part, I have generously refrained from intentionally triggering him.

Rarely will I mention his titty twisting fantasies, his pecan pie meltdown, or other interesting proclivities of his.


Every obsessive line of this is a lie.

You’ve attracted some special commenters, Althouse.

madAsHell said...

Justin T. cuz Justin Bieber was busy.

narciso said...

indeed,


https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1210656691739660288

Chuck said...

From Junior’s Instagram freakout:

Imagine being so pathetic in your quest to attain some BS level of wokeness that you need to cut out a scene that is probably one of the the most famous cameos of the era? Imagine being so ‘triggered’ that you can’t even leave a Christmas movie alone without editing.

This is what we are up against in 2020, this is the filter by which most people receive their news. This is why it’s not a fair fight, but this is also why we will win. People see through this crap and are fed up of it. The media should go register as a lobbyist for the Leftists. Their bias is so flagrant they don’t even pretend to hide it anymore. They prove every day that they really are the enemy of the people.


Great to know, Junior! The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s flagrant editing out of your daddy’s cameo (a pointless gesture forced on the filmmakers by Trump to allow permission to use the Plaza as a location) will not go unnoticed! It’s what we’re fighting for in 2020!


FullMoon said...

Chuck said:

Every obsessive line of this is a lie.

You’ve attracted some special commenters, Althouse.


One word. Corey Lewinsky..

FullMoon said...

Chuck sais:
(a pointless gesture forced on the filmmakers by Trump to allow permission to use the Plaza as a location)

Now, see, that right there is a stupid comment made in a transparent attempt to elicit a response. Avoiding the obvious, Trump tower the most fabulous spot in New York. The one place in New York impressive enough to be included in a potential blockbuster film.

SAD.










Francisco D said...

I have not read his posts, but Chuckles seems to be really obsessive today.

Holiday blues? DTs? Your guess is as good as mine.

Chuck said...

Blogger FullMoon said...
Chuck said:

Every obsessive line of this is a lie.

You’ve attracted some special commenters, Althouse.

One word. Corey Lewinsky..


Something tells me that you’re going to want to delete that.

FullMoon said...

Chuck subtly explains his "purpose" in August 2018

Chuck said
See, the thing is, Althouse is openly pro-gay marriage and pro-choice. Either one, or both, are such unremarkable political positions that ordinarily I wouldn't bother pointing it out.

My purpose is different; my purpose is to grind on the fact that Trump is professedly (for now; he wasn't before) anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion. My purpose is to drive wedges between Trump and Trumpism on the one hand, and Ann Althouse and the Althouse blog on the other hand.

Freder Frederson said...

Trump tower the most fabulous spot in New York.

Are you fucking kidding me or are you just high? In addition to these I can name a dozen other (without even thinking about it) NYC locations that are more fabulous than the late '70's typical skyscraper architecture of Trump Tower.

FullMoon said...

Ah!, I found it. 2017. This is why I no longer tease Chuck. It is not his fault.

Chuck said... [hush]​[hide comment]

I was diagnosed, after extensive testing by medical professionals, in Nov. 2014.Among the #actuallyautistic, you see a range of intellect and social abilities. It is not possible to lump us into one or two categories.

Many of us may appear boorish or rude in our interactions with neurotypical (NT) people. As a generality, we are weak at recognizing non-verbal social cues. Autism, however, is not an excuse for being a jerk. And it is possible for us to be both, as it is for NTs.

Diagnosing yourself is a facile way to find an excuse for behaviors and feelings that may have nothing to do with autism. It's not a fad that you can just buy in to. It is a difference in the hardwiring of the rain. We are not handicapped, just different.

gerry said...

Fullmoon, my retired English teacher wife told me decades ago how to easily discern when a personal pronoun should be subjective or objective: put the appropriate but unnecessary verb after the pronoun as a test, as in: "Besides, others do it better than I can" as opposed to "Besides, others do it better than me can", and the proper form becomes readily evident.

Have a happy and ever more prosperous New Year!

Oh, and just to see if I can also share in some space in what seems to be the vacuum of Chuck's head today...oh, never mind.

FullMoon said...

Freder Frederson said...

Trump tower the most fabulous spot in New York.

Are you fucking kidding me or are you just high? In addition to these I can name a dozen other (without even thinking

Well, excusuuuse me! Of course you are not a big time movie producer responsible for tens of millions of dollars at stake when choosing the best possible locations, right? SO your opinion matters not at all, does it?

Chuck said...

Full Moon, I did not write that. If you gave us a link, we could go to that comment, and click on the name “Chuck” and determine that it was not me and was essentially a fake account. You should do that.

To me, it seems like the sort of thing that you would do.

You miserable lying sack of shit.

rcocean said...

I love it, this is the "Chuck Thread" where he and his lonely heart Conservatives can battle each other. 60 mentions of Chuck, so far.

FullMoon said...

gerry said...

Fullmoon, my retired English teacher wife told me decades ago how to easily discern when a personal pronoun should be subjective or objective: put the appropriate but unnecessary verb after the pronoun as a test,


Hmmm, Seems familiar. Any way to further simplify, as my memory is more of a "righty tighty, lefty loosey" sort.

And, I agree, no need for us to bother Chuck today. He is not a bad guy, just misunderstood through no fault of his own.

FullMoon said...

60 mentions of Chuck, so far.

Did you include yours?

gerry said...

Happy New Year!"

FullMoon said...

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rcocean said...

Only Hitler would make fun of Justin Trudeau. Trump would kill for Justin's Fashion sense. Plus, Justin has been elected twice by Canada, while Trump has only been elected once - by RUSSIA.

rcocean said...

"Did you include yours?"

No, because mine are superficial.

Beasts of England said...

’The repatriated cash (and lower corporate taxes) would result in an economic boom...’

You are aware that there’s a global economic slowdown / recession at the moment, right? You are also aware that the US is the only G7 country growing at more than two percent per annum, right?

gerry said...

Today in history, a truly joyful event!

rcocean said...

I really have to hand it to the Babylon Bee, Laslo, and Titainia McGrath, its HARD To satirize the Left. Once you try to write like them, its so incredibly easy, and so astoundingly stupid, that trying to get *almost* right is almost impossible. Hitting the Comedy sweet spot is like hitting Justin Trudeau's blackface on moonless night with a pea shooter.

FullMoon said...


Blogger Chuck said...

Full Moon, I did not write that. If you gave us a link, we could go to that comment, and click on the name “Chuck” and determine that it was not me and was essentially a fake account. You should do that.


My friend, we all discussed this a couple of months ago. Was determined that you created a second account in order to join the discussion of autism in a more personal way.

We also seemed to agree that if you chose to deny that fact, that is is perfectly fine with the regulars here who sympathize with your condition.

If you say it was not you, then I "believe " you. Although your obsessive behavior on some threads does seem abbey normal (Young Frankenstien reference)

FullMoon said...

superficial:
not having or showing any depth of character or understanding.

Mine too!

gerry said...

Fullmoon, Blog Killfile is really cool. I now inhabit a Chuckfree Althouse webpage universe! What a timesaver!

Thank you!

Freder Frederson said...

Well, excusuuuse me! Of course you are not a big time movie producer responsible for tens of millions of dollars at stake when choosing the best possible locations, right? SO your opinion matters not at all, does it?

No it doesn't. Which is why I provided a link to an article from Architectural Digest. I bet if you asked one hundred experts in architecture the ten most fabulous buildings in NYC, none of them would have Trump Tower on the list.

Chuck said...

Full Moon, here is the link to your phony confession of autism by “Chuck”:

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-department-head-said-there-might.html?showComment=1511368814769&m=1#c1526512899874705146

Go there. Click on “Chuck.” It’s not me. It’s a different account.

I don’t understand all of these increasingly elaborate attempts to personally insult me. Many of you make not even the slightest pretense anymore about addressing the subjects of Althouse’s blogging. It’s just pure personal attacks on me. Your loathing of me isn’t an adequate excuse. I loathe some of you as well but I don’t pore over your old comments. Many of you have hardly ever posted comments worth reading anyway. (In stark contrast with the pre-Trump days of the Althouse blog). I care so little about you, I cannot understand your personal obsession with me.

FullMoon said...

While tripping down memory lane, Chuck, I happened upon a long forgotten obsession of yours. This one of many where you personally attack Althouse. Is this not autistic behaviour? Seriously, being autistic is nothing to be ashamed of.

"You take no shit. None. Not a bit. In your 40s you want to say you take no shit, but you still do."

narciso said...

do intelligence officers actually do anything useful?



https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/12/27/dirty-spooks-concerned-about-barr-and-durham/#more-179510

Chuck said...


My friend, we all discussed this a couple of months ago. Was determined that you created a second account in order to join the discussion of autism in a more personal way.

We also seemed to agree that if you chose to deny that fact, that is is perfectly fine with the regulars here who sympathize with your condition.


Oh, well... If you and all the “regulars” agree, then I guess that settles it.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Trudeau = stocking stuffer

... and that's not chimney soot besmirching his face and reputation

FullMoon said...


Blogger Freder Frederson said...

Well, excusuuuse me! Of course you are not a big time movie producer responsible for tens of millions of dollars at stake when choosing the best possible locations, right? SO your opinion matters not at all, does it?

No it doesn't. Which is why I provided a link to an article from Architectural Digest. I bet if you asked one hundred experts in architecture the ten most fabulous buildings in NYC, none of them would have Trump Tower on the list.

Huh? Irrelevant. Do any of those locations appear in blockbuster movies? Opinions are like buttholes, etc..

FullMoon said...

Chuck, this is from 2016. Over 3 years ago. An awful long time for anyone to carry such hatred for a successful president, would you agree?

Original Mike said...

Blogger Chuck said..."Geeze I wonder how the people working in Marcellus shale gas extraction felt about Trump after he went after Ohio's governor for "being lucky, because he struck oil"?"

You're working at this Trump hate thing too hard. This one makes no sense.
9/24/16, 7:48 AM

Freder Frederson said...

Do any of those locations appear in blockbuster movies? Opinions are like buttholes, etc..

I'll pick one to demonstrate how incredibly stupid your argument is. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_State_Building_in_popular_culture> The Empire State Building</a>. Hell, it was even in Home Alone 2 (multiple times), apparently the gold standard for judging the architectural significance of buildings in NYC.

Freder Frederson said...

I'll the link. Always forget that damn closing quotation mark.

RobinGoodfellow said...

“ Blogger Bay Area Guy said...
I hated "Midnight Cowboy" but "Deliversnce" (at the time) was scary and excellent.”

Thank you. I always thought Midnight Cowboy was an execrable POS movie.

RobinGoodfellow said...

Heat with Pacino, DeNiro, et al.”

Was that a great movie, or what?

narciso said...

in other news


https://nypost.com/2019/12/27/mexican-security-chief-arrested-in-connection-to-mormon-family-massacre/

J. Farmer said...

Thank you. I always thought Midnight Cowboy was an execrable POS movie.

I wouldn't go that far, but I never got the excitement over that movie. Jon Voight's bumbling attempts to be a hustler were pretty amusing, and it was nice to hear the "I'm walking here" line in its natural context. But that was about all I took away from the movie. Also was never a big Jon Voight fan, although his role in Anaconda approaches so-bad-its-good territory. I'm not sure what accent he was going for, but he ended up sounding like Ricky Ricardo.

FullMoon said...

FF said:
I'll pick one to demonstrate how incredibly stupid your argument is


Huh? What argument? Is the Empire State Building a hotel?
Like comparing an automobile to a boat.

Incidentally, ESB built in a year. Just the kind of thing Trump could accomplish.

FullMoon said...

Midnite Cowboy synopsis, Small town boy makes it big in New York City?
Never liked the theme song.

dustbunny said...

No one here has watched Jon Voight in Ray Donavan?? His performance is an advanced course in acting, plus he is hilarious.

Spiros said...

The best political endorsements:

1. Wilt Chamberlain for Richard Nixon
2. Elvis Presley for Richard Nixon
3. Orson Welles for FDR

Jon Voight wouldn't make anybody's top 1,000 list.

Freder Frederson said...

Huh? What argument? Is the Empire State Building a hotel?

No, but neither is Trump Tower. It is a mixed use retail/office/residential building. There are indeed several Trump branded hotels in New York (although the Trump International Hotel and Tower is the only one actually owned by Trump, and was not built by Trump), but Trump Tower ain't one of them.

Gunner said...

Who the hell is watching broadcast movies in 2019? Did Canada outlaw streaming?

FullMoon said...

Freder Frederson said...

Huh? What argument? Is the Empire State Building a hotel?

No, but neither is Trump Tower. It is a mixed use retail/office/residential building. There are indeed several Trump branded hotels in New York (although the Trump International Hotel and Tower is the only one actually owned by Trump, and was not built by Trump), but Trump Tower ain't one of them.

12/27/19, 5:04 PM


Yes, but the fact remains, Trump's scene in his hotel was cut from the movie, NOT from the ESB. So what is your point?
And, you cannot disagree, with all govt regulations today, ESB would take way more than a year to build, if at all.Even with all the automation and green tech available to contractors.

Jim at said...

Was that a great movie, or what?

On the whole, yes. But every scene with Amy Brenneman brings it to a screeching halt. Completely useless.

Freder Frederson said...

And, you cannot disagree, with all govt regulations today, ESB would take way more than a year to build

I can't disagree. But what on earth does this little fact have to do with the discussion we were having? One World Trade Center took about 8 1/2 years from laying the foundation to opening.

FullMoon said...


Blogger Freder Frederson said...

And, you cannot disagree, with all govt regulations today, ESB would take way more than a year to build

I can't disagree. But what on earth does this little fact have to do with the discussion we were having? One World Trade Center took about 8 1/2 years from laying the foundation to opening.

12/27/19, 5:26 PM


Proves my point. ESB, one year.WTC 8.5. Surely you can see the difference now? And, WTC a hotel, or not?

Maillard Reactionary said...

TJM said: "Trudeau is a nothing, a poseur, a loser - not fit to tie President Trump's shoelaces."

He seems to have set out to demonstrate the concept of "reversion to the mean", but overshot the mark.

Freder Frederson said...

And the scene wasn't even at Trump Tower, it was at the Plaza, which of course was not built by Trump (opened in 1907), but he owned at the time. Ivana couldn't handle the debt load and it was put into bankruptcy in 1992 making Trump a minority owner. It was sold in 1995.

Gunner said...

Was Matt Damon upset that the hour setting up the Trump cameo in his shitty movies could have been better spent by him and Harvey Weinstein molesting starlets?

Freder Frederson said...

Proves my point. ESB, one year.WTC 8.5. Surely you can see the difference now? And, WTC a hotel, or not?

And what exactly was your point? Now that I bothered to look it up and see that the scene was filmed at the Plaza (which is indeed one of the grand old hotels of NYC and an architectural gem) the whole discussion has become irrelevant. That's what I get for assuming you all know what the hell you are talking about and have your facts right.

FullMoon said...

Freder Frederson said...

Proves my point. ESB, one year.WTC 8.5. Surely you can see the difference now? And, WTC a hotel, or not?

And what exactly was your point? Now that I bothered to look it up and see that the scene was filmed at the Plaza (which is indeed one of the grand old hotels of NYC and an architectural gem) the whole discussion has become irrelevant. That's what I get for assuming you all know what the hell you are talking about and have your facts right.

That's what I said, then you linked to some architects who have nothing to do with making movies and went off the rails for some reason. Nice try at straw dog.!

FullMoon said...

Freder Frederson said...

And the scene wasn't even at Trump Tower, it was at the Plaza, which of course was not built by Trump (opened in 1907), but he owned at the time. Ivana couldn't handle the debt load and it was put into bankruptcy in 1992 making Trump a minority owner. It was sold in 1995.


What the heck? Tromp wasn't even alive in 1907! How is that relevant? You are not making sense.

Freder Frederson said...

That's what I said,

No what you said was "Trump tower the most fabulous spot in New York". The Plaza is not the Trump Tower (and was never called the Trump Tower although I do believe that Trump added his name to The Plaza when he owned it, and is not even a tower, at least not by modern standards).

Chuck apparently got the location right (generally I skip over Chuck's comments), but you are the one who called Trump Tower the most fabulous spot in New York.

John henry said...

Around the time home alone 2 was made, Donald trump co-owned the Empire state building.

I don't know if he got a cameo in anything shot in the building.

Leona Helmsley owned the master lease. They had kind of a typical landlord-tenant relationship. Not good.

John Henry

John henry said...

If it was The Plaza, they really needed a cameo by Eloise.

John Henry

Michael K said...

Good Grief ! A Freder thread. Almost as idiotic as a Ritmo thread.

Freder Frederson said...

Good Grief ! A Freder thread. Almost as idiotic as a Ritmo thread.

I wish someone had pointed out earlier that the scene was at the Plaza, not Trump Tower. This has been a total waste of my time.

FullMoon said...


Blogger John henry said...

Around the time home alone 2 was made, Donald trump co-owned the Empire state building.


Well, Fredor, what do you have to say about that? Trump owned TWO of the buildings on your list.

FullMoon said...

Freder Frederson said...

Good Grief ! A Freder thread. Almost as idiotic as a Ritmo thread.

wish someone had pointed out earlier that the scene was at the Plaza, not Trump Tower. This has been a total waste of my time.

Good grief, you are the one who brought up Trump Tower in the first place. Maybe confusing Home Alone hotel with Die Hard hotel?

Freder Frederson said...

Good grief, you are the one who brought up Trump Tower in the first place.

No I wasn't. I was responding to you calling Trump Tower the most fabulous spot in NYC. And you continued to call the building in question "Trump Tower". I only figured out that you didn't know you were mistakenly calling The Plaza Trump Tower when I finally googled the scene and saw it was filmed at The Plaza, not Trump Tower.

FullMoon said...

Freder Frederson said...

Good grief, you are the one who brought up Trump Tower in the first place.

No I wasn't. I was responding to you calling Trump Tower the most fabulous spot in NYC. And you continued to call the building in question "Trump Tower". I only figured out that you didn't know you were mistakenly calling The Plaza Trump Tower when I finally googled the scene and saw it was filmed at The Plaza, not Trump Tower.
My point was simply that the movie producers picked the best place to represent opulence, class and grandiosity. TrumpTower is a generic reference to any of Trumps fantastically large buildings. Everybody knows that.
And, I will pretend to not notice your obvious avoidence of the fact that Trump also owned Empire State building, another "Trump Tower".

chuck said...

>> Trump has proven himself to be exceptionally thin-skinned and petty. <<

He seems exceptionally thick-skinned to me. Nothing really gets under his skin. But he loves a fight and never passes up the opportunity to have one. But this is more of a fish slap than a fight.

walter said...

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Michael K said...


I wish someone had pointed out earlier that the scene was at the Plaza, not Trump Tower. This has been a total waste of my time.


YOUR Time ! I have to bleach my eyeballs from looking at your idiocy.

Ken B said...

Rcocean dead names Andrew Doyle:
“I really have to hand it to ... Titainia McGrath, its HARD To satirize the Left. Once you try to write like them, its so incredibly easy, and so astoundingly stupid, that trying to get *almost* right is almost impossible.”
He transitioned over a year ago.

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"Maybe they should spend more time with their kids."

What makes you think they have any?