Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein's accusers, claimed she was forced to have sex with the prince three times....ADDED: My headline is a little off. I said that he said that he cannot sweat — present tense — but he can sweat now. He just couldn't sweat at the time he's accused of having sweated. So he says.
Speaking to BBC Newsnight's Emily Maitlis, the prince said: "It didn't happen. I can absolutely categorically tell you it never happened."... He said Ms Giuffre's account of him "profusely sweating" and "pouring with perspiration" when they danced at the club on the night in 2001 when she says they first had sex was impossible, because he had a medical condition preventing him from perspiring....
"I have a peculiar medical condition which is that I don't sweat or I didn't sweat at the time," he said, blaming it on "an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War". He said he had only started to be able to sweat again "in the recent past".
ALSO: From another BBC article, this one asking a "royal commentator" (Dickie Arbiter) why Prince Andrew did this terrible interview: "My guess is that he bulldozed his way in and decided he was going to do it himself without any advice. Any sensible-thinking person in the PR business would have thrown their hands up in horror at the very suggestion that he puts himself up in front of a television camera to explain away his actions and his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein." Arbiter also tweeted (with a glaring grammar mistake): "If #PrinceAndrew thinks he's drawn a line in the sand over the #Epstein saga he's in cuckoo land. Whomever advised he did this interview ought to collect his/her P45."
I had to look up P45: "In the United Kingdom and, until 1 January 2019 in the Republic of Ireland, a P45 is the reference code of a form titled Details of employee leaving work. The term is used in British slang and Irish slang as a metonym for termination of employment. (The equivalent slang term in the United States is pink slip.)"
A "royal biographer" (Angela Levin) is also quoted: "Unfortunately it was a sign of his arrogance. He has always been arrogant. The Queen's motto is don't complain don't explain. I think in her heart she will be extremely embarrassed. I know for a fact Prince Andrew does not listen to his advisers."
You can watch the hour-long interview here.
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"...didn't sweat at the time."
I dunno. That just doesn't sound like a princely defense.
You know, I can turn off my sweat whenever I want. I'm a Prince, you know. I can sweat right now if I choose to do so. Or...we can dance and have wild sex, and I'll not sweat at all. I'm in total control. I'm a Prince.
Is there any record of him not being able to sweat? He would have seen a doctor about it. I prefer another explanation of why he has no memory of this woman—it’s happened so many times that she doesn’t stand out.
I hope one of our medical professionals will will comment on whether this is plausible
1 is it possible not to sweat?
2 can adrenaline cause this?
3 can it go away?
I can understand him sweating now though if only figuratively.
Do British royals have diplomatic immunity in the us or could he be prosecuted?
Assuming evidence etc.
Epstein did not kill himself.
He may not even be dead.
John Henry
The "Prince's" story is almost too weird to be made up. Almost.
claimed she was forced to have sex with the prince three times
I doubt that these young prostitutes were forced to do anything they didn't want to do - check out her shit-eating grin.
It's nonsense. Sweating too much is a recognized medical condition. I have never heard of the phenomenon of not sweating. I doubt it is compatible with life. Some animals with fur coats do not sweat. That is why dogs pant.
The giveaway is that he now says he can sweat.
Of course he might have a delusion that he is Rita Hayworth. A cameraman once complained she was sweating under the hot lights. Her assistant informed him, "Horses sweat, Miss Hayworth glows."
Prince Andrew didn’t sweat himself. Pass it on.
Show me the medical records or it didn't happen.
I Ain't The One
Jailbait sex? No sweat.
He wasn't sweating then, but he's sweating now.
its a lie with too much detail... liars feel they have to provide more detail because subconsciously they know they are lying.
I think this was covered in Scott Adams' book.
That's an extremely serious medical condition. When you have heat stroke the last thing that happens before you die is you lose the ability to sweat.
These mendacious pedophiles enjoying blatantly lying to everyone. I think they get off on it. They can say whatever they want these cow eyed reporters and the reporters calmly chew their words like cud and so do most of the people. It must be intoxicating for Prince Andrew, the Clinton's, all Epstein's Pals.
Should be easy enough to check. Prince Andrew is not a private person and his medical condition is constantly monitored by the palace medical establishment.
It would be risky for him to lie about it.
So he says.
Indeed.
I wouldn't sweat about it, Princie, we just want to know who killed Epstein.
I did not have sweat with that woman, Miss what ever her name is..........
Is Prince Andrew a Bond villain?
Because this is the kind of thing that only a Bond villain would have.
if this was because of the falklands war
i'm SURE that there are medical records stating this, right?
i mean, Right?
He's sweating now.
She cured him.
how this?
I HAD a medical condition, that i didn't mention to anyone; that proves she's a liar
I not have that condition now
She turned me into a Newt!
"Here's my blue dress with all kinds of sweat on it. YUCK." -- V Giuffre
Pace Michael K, there is such a thing as an inability to sweat:
Anhidrosis is the inability to sweat normally. When you don't sweat (perspire), your body can't cool itself, which can lead to overheating and sometimes to heatstroke — a potentially fatal condition.
Anhidrosis — sometimes called hypohidrosis — can be difficult to diagnose. Mild anhidrosis often goes unrecognized. Dozens of factors can cause the condition, including skin trauma and certain diseases and medications, and Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. You can inherit anhidrosis or develop it later in life.
Open Lie-Perhaps Trying to clean up his image for political benefits.
Andrew: How about this as my motivation? When I was fourteen years old, I was abused in the Philippines by a clubfooted Navy chaplain.
Sheldon Cooper: No. We're going with middle child and a genetic predisposition to inadequate sweat production.
Andrew: Well, how do I play genetic predisposition?
Sheldon Cooper: Subtextually, of course!
Randy Andy is only living up to the Hereditary Royalty's standards. Fun Sex with any of their subjects is approved and expected. They own them.
I broke out in bad sweats once after f^^king a girl in Olongapo. The flight surgeon gave me quite a bit of penicillin as I recall.
- Krumhorn
It must be intoxicating for Prince Andrew, the Clinton's, all Epstein's Pals.
Epstein himself got dead drunk.
I stand corrected.
Acquired idiopathic generalized anhidrosis (AIGA) is a sweating disorder characterized by inadequate sweating in response to heat stimuli such as high temperature, humidity, and physical exercise. Patients exhibit widespread nonsegmental hypohidrosis/anhidrosis without any apparent cause, but the palms, soles, and axillae are rarely affected. Heat stroke readily develops due to increased body temperature. AIGA commonly affects young males. Approximately 30-60% of patients show complications of cholinergic urticaria, also known as idiopathic pure sudomotor failure or hypohidrotic cholinergic urticaria. Systemic corticosteroids are the most effective therapy, although recurrence is not uncommon.
I see nothing about adrenaline but maybe there is a connection.
Excessive sweating is common. The acquired anhidrosis must be very rare.
It’s all that royal inbreeding
okay, i (finally!) read the assignment, and...
Ms Giuffre described him providing her with alcohol at a nightclub, but Prince Andrew said: "I don't drink, I don't think I've ever bought a drink in Tramps whenever I was there.
she's not saying YOU drank, she's saying you Gave HER alcohol
she's not saying YOU paid (princes don't pay, do they?), she's saying you GAVE Her alcohol
Asked about a photograph of him and Ms Giuffre being taken at Ghislaine Maxwell's house, he said he had "absolutely no memory" of it.
Probably because you were Shit faced?
We've SEEN the pic, we've read that you failed in proving it fake
It's time like this that I really miss the Monty Python Flying Circus.
"ecause this is the kind of thing that only a Bond villain would have.”
I liked the one who was always blowing his nose because he was hairless, including nose hair.
Probably bonked so many that he can't remember her specifically. Maybe he has the Edward VII gene.
Following up on what AllenS said:
Does sweat contain DNA? I assume yes but don't know.
If she was dancing with the prince it seems likely there was sweat on the dress. Would it be detachable?
Might the prince be sweating that she put the dress in a plastic bag and saved it?
Nobody expected that Monica L saved her dress, did they?
John Henry
sorry, there's more...
He does not regret his friendship with Epstein because of "the opportunities I was given to learn"
It certainly sounds like you learned your lessons well!
He invited Epstein to Princess Beatrice's 18th birthday at Windsor Castle in July 2006 but said "certainly I wasn't aware" that a warrant had been issued in May for his arrest for sex crimes.
The warrant through a wrench in your plans to WHORE OUT YOUR OWN DAUGHTER, didn't it?
threw!
Detectable above. Not detachable
John Henry
Pardon Roger Stone.
That’s not a non-sequitur, trust me.
Increased epinephrine [adrenaline] can actually cause excessive sweating, not reduce it.
Yeah, I miss Monty Python, too...
He also claims the photo with Giuffre is fake because he doesn't hug.
“I’m terribly sorry, but if I, as a member of the royal family, and I have a photograph taken — and I take very, very few photographs — I am not one to, um, as it were, hug”
“Public displays of affection are not something that, that I do. So. That’s the best explanation I can give you.”
Doesn't drink sweat or hug.
What about determination and hard work.
I'm with Ferdinanstein: the teen not only wanted it, she asked for it and liked it. Eve, the apple... No brainier. C'mon guys, they all want it, especially when they say they don't.
It's like that TV commercial says... "Never let them see you sweat."
Cold Sweat (Rare Video Version)
Meat meat blood blood
Sweat sweat meat!
I close the door
Shouldn't burn yet
The wires get hotter
Palms are glowing
This is hot meat
This is metallic blood
This is hot meat
This is open sweat
I'll show you with my fingers
Draw with the eye
With your own breath
I'll tear your lungs
Here is hot meat
This is metallic blood
Here is hot meat
This is open sweat
This side of the blackest meadows
I make my winter dwelling
And crush my bones
This is hot meat
This is metallic blood
This is ...hot meat!
I'll sail out the window
I'll walk down the edge
I will not finish
'Till I'm fully satisfied
"Butt Boy's on top" screams the Castro Journal.
The Telegraph speculates that once his big brother takes the throne, Andy and his daughters will be banished to the outer darkness.
The Crack is back.
This is one of those cases where refusing to discuss the allegations would have served him better. But then the Windsors have never been known for their intellect.
I don't sweat either, I perspire. Maybe that's what the Prince meant. Never trust the blue bloods.
Ever experience that perfect bead of sweat that you can feel run all the way down your back, enter the cleavage of your buttocks, dribble over your anus and under the perineum, then drip slowly off the base of your scrotum?
Ahem, okay, me neither.
If I did, Wince, I'd probably have the same facial expression that you have.
Sweat is a problem when it falls off your eyebrows and onto the lens of your glasses. That's where a maxipad as a bike helmet forehead pad comes in.
The Duke of York claimed on Saturday night that he could not have had sex with a teenage girl in the London home of British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell because he was at home after attending a children’s party at Pizza Express in Woking.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/16/prince-andrew-denies-sex-with-teenager-as-at-home-after-pizza-party
PizzaGate is bullshit, right?
Mama couldn't sweat. She also couldn't produce tears. I spent my life trying to model myself after a woman who couldn't cry.
I never knew any of this until after she had a heat stroke at an August family picnic. Wondering if I had developed the same affliction, I switched to a deodorant only to check it out. Deodorant only, versus deodorant and antiperspirant, is only commonly available in masculine scents and I was quite happy for a while constantly smelling freshly groomed male. Then I realized that was not really the smell I wanted to be putting out there for others. ;-(
Your Majesty about the Prince Andrew Situation...
Queen Elizabeth: I want Epstein dead! Dead I tell you. Epstein, he sleeps with the fishes.
Nobody expects the British Secret Service.
Didn't sweat? Would that not be medical grounds for a military discharge? Has he refrained from even moderate exercise during that period? Has he been seen even standing for long periods in warm,sunny conditions? One would thin those could prove dangerous to a non-sweating person.
BTW, why aren't we hearing more about Billy Bob Clinton's trips to fantasy island? That's sorta of went away real quick didn't it?
I am definitely going to trust the word of a pedophilic rapist about an uncheckable medical condition that has "resolved" recently.
The monarchy seems to be made up of some of the most unworthy people. It's always been that way, even in biblical times.
rcocean said...
BTW, why aren't we hearing more about Billy Bob Clinton's trips to fantasy island? That's sorta of went away real quick didn't it?
I doubt there are Many people that want Hilary calling the Suicide Hotline, and placing orders
The prince doesn't sweat. I don't fart. Epstien hung himself.
The British Royalty is not very bright, probably due to past inbreeding.
Prince Andrew should have just ignored the accusations. Now I am pretty sure he is guilty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EJuknlUx48
Princie, we just want to know who killed Epstein.
Could be Bond, James Bond. His real life equivalent will go to great lengths to protect the Royal Firm.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-456479/How-MI5-raided-bank-pictures-Princess-Margaret.html
Holy shit! He might be dumber than Hillary Clinton.
I don’t know if this is him or not, but if this photo can be verified, it’s time for him to be impeached of his title.
https://twitter.com/FarrellStephen/status/1196087866650173445/photo/1
madAsHell: "Holy shit! He might be dumber than Hillary Clinton."
Worst of all, Prince Andrew has spent the entirety of his life so utterly unchallenged and far above scrutiny that in this scenario, and a horrific one at that, he demonstrates a complete and total inability to effectively address ANY of these questions without digging the hole deeper and deeper.
He is clearly used to tossing out moronic and incoherent answers to obvious and serious questions and when he was challenged with followup questions he was like a deer in the headlights.
Not even Andrew's staff was capable of effectively prepping him in any way possible.
Plus, yeah, the inbreeding.
The Prince Andrew portion of the Windsor-German family bloodline (along with Charles) is completely played out.
Where's a viking bastard bent on military conquest and a huge chip on his shoulder when you need him?
https://twitter.com/TorsteinGrude/status/1196058681424699392
We have ratcheted up tensions with a nuclear superpower because a witness to the crimes of the powerful died in prison.
I have finally realized that it is impossible to be cynical enough, and that the whole veneer of the "rule of law” is only an illusion, and that we are ruled by men, not laws.
The Prince’s bodily fluids are retained until he is ready.
It's not as though any of the other men in the Royal Family can cop a superior moral attitude. But there's a reason they call it Middle Class Morality, in that it doesn't apply to Royalty, the Nobility, or the Gentry.
The Prince Andrew portion of the Windsor-German family bloodline (along with Charles) is completely played out.
the British Isles HAD their chance, and you Know what they did?
They Chopped off its head!
GOD Almighty, in his infinite majesty; gave the Brits a True (Scottish) KING
Divinely Appointed, By GOD!
And they chopped of his head!
When it looked like they were coming to their senses, and returned Absolute Power to the Stuarts (Where GOD intended it to reside)... They Quickly slipped back into their Satan Worshiping ways, and Not ONLY usurped Charles son; but replaced him with...
A GERMAN!!!!
This is WHY the British Empire collapsed. Many American Colonists came to America to get Away from German Rule.... What Choice did the existence of George the German give them?
my dad's family is from germany; a LONG WAY FROM germany
my mom's family were true loyal scots.... Back when that was possible
If there’s no sweat from The Brit, you must acquit.
Maybe he doesn't sweat because he's a lizard.
I got Prince Andrew mixed up with Prince William. Andy is the son of queen liz and is 59 years old, and is 8th in line of succession. In terms of Royalty he's not very important.
I can't even BEGIN to care to watch that.
His nickname in the British tabloids used to be “Randy Andy”
Andy's kid brother Edward, Earl of Wessex, seems to be a normal sort of guy. He has an actual job and is married to quite a handsome woman.
Boy, if he was going to tell a lie like this as a defense, he should have just gone with permanent impotence.
Andrew's disclaimer about the photo sounds like the Eddie Murphy bit "It wasn't me."
Maybe it was an imposter. There must be some Andy impersonators out and about, probably a few sweaty ones.
Boy, if he was going to tell a lie like this as a defense, he should have just gone with permanent impotence.
Given the history of the British Monarchy, it would be more than plausible if he said he was gay.
There must be some Andy impersonators out and about
That would be like counterfeiting Mexican money
JaimeRoberto said...
Maybe he doesn't sweat because he's a lizard.
11/17/19, 10:20 AM
I understand that psychotics don't sweat. Don't feel Heat. Also their favorite color is yellow. What's Randy Andy's favorite color?
One feels quite sorry for Elizabeth II.
However, now is a good time to begin seriously to think about the restoration of the House of Stuart. In a few years, as Charles III begins his reign and Maximilian Duke in Bavaria has passed to his reward, the Stuart heir presumptive will be Hereditary Princess Sophie of Liechtenstein: not difficult, to make a choice between the two of them. The continuing hollowing out of the Anglican Church and creeping paganization of Great Britain might make a Catholic queen regnant possible.
The silly Brits will probably keep Charles, alas.
However, now is a good time to begin seriously to think about the restoration of the House of Stuart
That works for me. I am in the line of succession on my father's side. I would make a good King, since all I have to do is to represent the monarchy and spend the British taxpayers money.
Unfortunately, there are about 5 million Stuarts/Stewarts ahead of me. Maybe more.
well funny you bring up magnitsky, as he worked for bill browder, who was a protégé of Edmund safra, who died under mysterious circumstances in Monaco, after he sold out his bank to hsbc,
The silly Brits will probably keep Charles, alas.
Charles should abdicate in favor of William if they insist on keeping up this monarchy thing. Marc, as you might suspect, I don't favor a Catholic on the throne of Britain. It would necessitate another Cromwell. :-)
Girls just have to be forced to fuck princes, even the froggy ones.
Charles should abdicate in favor of William if they insist on keeping up this monarchy thing.
Charles has absolutely no intention of doing so, and they can't make him do it. Maybe his Mom will live to be 150 right in his face.
Charles has absolutely no intention of doing so
Didn't Edward VIII abdicate in order to marry a divorced woman? [Not that he was interested in being King, anyway]. Charles is not only divorced but married a divorced woman. Or doesn't it matter anymore?
The Prince of Wales looks often rather tired these days; don't see him reigning for very long: doesn't it often happen that after a long-lived generation the next does rather differently? maybe not.
I look forward to seeing how the coronation service-- which very definitely makes a Christian king, not a servant of the plurinational (to borrow a term of art from Evo Morales) ethos-- is altered to make any eventual succession palatable.
I began reading that word, 'Cro...', but quickly averted my eyes.
I think that so far as the Anglican Church is concerned it no longer matters.
I should add that I am far from being seriously informed about Anglican Church doctrines & policies etc etc so take what I say about it cum grano salis.
(Sorry for the multiple comments! I suspect I've come down with a mild case of twitteritis.)
ok, so we were a little late with the whole Epstein thing,
...but who so far hasnt killed themselves yet?
Let's see:
-Tulsi Gabbard
-Eric Ciaramella
-Prince Andrew
-...
Narciso,
We should never bring up Bill Browder without mentioning his grandfather earl Browder, Stalin's main agent in the us.
Bill Browder claims to reject his grandfather's works but has he really?
John Henry
The Telegraph has revealed that HMQ was not aware of the interview until just before, and she did not approve. Neither did Charles, who is being urged to downgrade Andy's role as a working royal once he takes the throne.
Mum has a soft spot for our Andy and is unlikely to do so while she reigns.
The sticking point with Edward VIII is not that he married Wallis, but that the role and title he wanted for her were not legally on the menu. Yet he persisted.
No f**king Papist on the throne! God favors Protestants! :-)
For "works" above, "evil" probably would have been the better word.
John Henry
What's with the anti-German thing? Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians, even Normans, originally from Scandinavia, contributed language and culture to the mix of peoples that produced Great Britain. I always thought that claims to the throne to be constantly contentious and tenuous.
well I didn't want to go that far back, I bring up safra, because he mentored browder, and the mysterious coincidences with that other financier, ted maher, no relation, was found guilty of the arson that killed safra,
but that the role and title he wanted for her were not legally on the menu
Which is funny, because Charles has what Edward wanted, a morganatic marriage with a divorcee.
Andy learned nothing from Charles's disastrous tell-some interview in the mid 90's.
How's he supposed to tell if the girl is 17 or 18 when she's served on a platter by a friend?
Andy should have used the Marion Barry defense:
‘Bitch set me up!!’
well miss guiffre nee Roberts evidence is a little thin, however, since Epstein could not have killed himself, amy robach was interested in burying the story,
"Pedophilia is 99% inspiration, and 1% perspiration" --Prince rAndy
Members of the royal family play by a different set of rules. They wouldn't be royals if they were like us.....King Henry VIII was a serial murderer. Some of the people he had killed were executed in extremely grisly ways. I just recently saw the play that Shakespeare wrote about him. In that play, Henry is presented as a sensitive man of conscience who worries excessively about whether he violated a Biblical injunction by marrying his dead brother's widow. Shakespeare was the greatest poet in the English language, and he found nothing bad to say about Henry. Anne Boleyn, just before she was beheaded on Henry's orders, turned to the onlookers and proclaimed her great love and loyalty to the man who was murdering her.....If Shakespeare and Anne Boleyn can look past Henry's minor flaws and see the majesty of his being, why can't groundlings like us look past these minor foibles and recognize Prince Andrew for the way he embodies all those things inspire such awe when we're in the presence of royalty, He's a truly awful man.
I knew someone who couldn't sweat at all. He got very red looking when we played volleyball.
I had a childhood playmate who did not sweat. She had incredibly dry, peely skin and could not be allowed to get hot AT ALL. It's life-threatening. I have a hard time believing a man who can't sweat would be seen strolling around outside in the blazing sun in a business suit.
I knew someone who couldn't sweat at all. He got very red looking when we played volleyball.
Was he a redhead? I seem to recall a woman I knew with red hair who was unable to sweat. They are probably at high risk for heat stroke.
“Because this is the kind of thing that only a Bond villain would have.”
Yes! That plus a third nipple and he’s the perfect Bond villain.
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