Althouse: At the Sunrise Ice Café...

November 14, 2019

At the Sunrise Ice Café...

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... warm up the conversation.

101 comments:

Yancey Ward said...: I wonder how many murders have been concealed in that lake.; 11/14/19, 7:08 PM
traditionalguy said...: It's Down Comforter Day.; 11/14/19, 7:11 PM
Mark said...: James crushed it. But even with a $23,000 lead, it ain't over yet. He needs to pound BF into the dirt.; 11/14/19, 7:11 PM
rcocean said...: don't give anyone the cold shoulder.; 11/14/19, 7:11 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: frosty 'smiley-face' lower right quadrant; 11/14/19, 7:12 PM
steve uhr said...: Maybe one of those years where the ice comes quick and smooth and lake Mendoza is an enormous rink before the first snow.; 11/14/19, 7:32 PM
narciso said...: Woops:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/14/nolte-impeachment-backfire-trumps-numbers-rise-as-bidens-crater/?fbclid=IwAR0jPi81VZttUtuK07mA32EMk9i8GFOy3IEWiZYvLe9Aas2zEafLBMeaFBs; 11/14/19, 7:43 PM
narciso said...: Quelle surprise:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/they-never-learned-about-lenin-capitalists-and-the-rope-officials-with-the-federal-thrift-savings/?fbclid=IwAR0MryQfTPdmejomDV59dWXx8QjwV4jpyLMMcTwuqYCJ8xeOkCXs2K-tV2M; 11/14/19, 7:47 PM
traditionalguy said...: Right now Trump is unloading on the Dems with verbal barrages seldom heard. He is on the attack. L’audace, l’audace, l’audace.; 11/14/19, 7:54 PM
stevew said...: Funeral for a long time family friend tomorrow. He was 90 and had an honest and well lived life. Military veteran, accomplished business man, active in his local community, gave time and money to local and national charities, adopted, provided for, and raised three beautiful kids, one of which pre-deceased him. His wife of 60+ years passed away just a few months ago. Tomorrow will be a celebration of a wonderful man, sad only in that we have to say goodbye. RIP RG.; 11/14/19, 8:10 PM
narciso said...: A change of pace:

https://www.chinahighlights.com/beijing/attraction/old-summer-palace.htm; 11/14/19, 8:16 PM
narciso said...: Money has its privileges:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/13/world/europe/parthenon-marbles-xi-jinping-greece-china.html; 11/14/19, 8:19 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: if Lying Sack-o Schiff doesn't know the name of the whistleblower, how will he know if someone 'outs' him during the testimony?

****

... MAGA, and EDKH; 11/14/19, 8:23 PM
stephen cooper said...: Ella Wheeler Wilcox said ....

" a weed is nothing but a flower that has not yet been loved"

"Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone"

sort of true, sort of wrong, x 2

in her 20s she - Emma WW - looked an awful lot like Renee Zellweger with black hair, or Emma Watson with broader features

in other words, she was a hottie in her day.

Just saying.; 11/14/19, 8:33 PM
narciso said...: Wonderful tribute, steve w.; 11/14/19, 8:34 PM
narciso said...: I dont know when the picture was taken

https://cdn.britannica.com/61/21461-050-7632679E/Ella-Wheeler-Wilcox.jpg; 11/14/19, 8:38 PM
narciso said...: I see what you mean:

https://ricochet.com/695860/what-michelle-malkins-disturbing-statements-could-mean-for-the-conservative-movement/; 11/14/19, 8:43 PM
FullMoon said...: You know, I am an easy going guy and not one to complain but I have to get this off my chest.
I am mildly disappointed with my wife. A few weeks ago ,I went all out and bought a top of the line sponge mop.

Multiple times I have demonstrated the most efficient way to use this floor cleaning miracle. She just cannot get the hang of it. She thrives in high tech employment but is inept with some of the most simple household tasks.

The silver lining, if any, I guess, is that I can mop the kitchen in just shy of six minutes now, where it used to take me almost ten..

Kind of hesitant to buy that new vacuum cleaner she has been hinting about.; 11/14/19, 8:44 PM
gilbar said...: Democrat Mike Quigley went on record today in Congress as saying ...
"hearsay can be MUCH better evidence than direct evidence."

was i just not paying attention?
were Democrats Always this dumb?; 11/14/19, 8:48 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: is Yovanovitch the key to spying on Trump thru Ukraine intelligence?

...will she be a no-show, or a schiff-show?; 11/14/19, 8:52 PM
narciso said...: Interesting:

https://mobile.twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1195168336537116672?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet; 11/14/19, 9:07 PM
stephen cooper said...: i second what narciso said at 8:34 pm; 11/14/19, 9:10 PM
narciso said...: Now where there any witnesses, rhetorical

https://mobile.twitter.com/tryggth/status/1194308458801025024; 11/14/19, 9:16 PM
narciso said...: Now there was a bones story from a few years ago, which illustrated the lefts view of the deepstate, where in the course of the arc which began in a season finale involved hoovers bureau although that wasnt immediately apparent, the string puller wass an ounassuning character played by opies father the late rance howard; 11/14/19, 9:22 PM
narciso said...: The gist of it was someone was using hoovers file to blackmail corporate and govt officials more than 40years later.; 11/14/19, 9:27 PM
narciso said...: Well thats one way to insure accuracy

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470581-doj-watchdog-wont-let-witnesses-submit-written-feedback-on; 11/14/19, 9:32 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: I am not sure I believe in life after love, so I am glad I never told Cher that I do.; 11/14/19, 9:35 PM
mockturtle said...: Narciso @7:47: No, not surprised but it makes me wonder how deeply the Deep State is involved in the Chinese economy.; 11/14/19, 9:43 PM
narciso said...: Well downer was a huawei director, halper soecialized on china issues, one of the supposed assiciates of ciaremella, abigail grace, was achina speciaList; 11/14/19, 9:46 PM
mockturtle said...: Narciso@8:43: I agree with one of the commenters that Fuentes is a fool and is just trolling. These types really should be ignored unless they resort to violence, IMO. Give him enough rope to hang himself, like the Dems are doing. ;-) I wasn't entirely clear on what Malkin was saying.; 11/14/19, 9:50 PM
Sprezzatura said...: I thought that the whistle blower had no firsthand info. Only read reports and talked to folks. Hence his POV is shit, cons tell us.

IOW, why do cons want to know about him? Better to question the folks with firsthand info, say conss. But those folks are barred from sworn testimony, which cons approve of. Better to learn about the shit source, not the sources with firsthand info re DJT corruption, is what cons tell us. Ha ha.

Logic is tricky.; 11/14/19, 9:51 PM
narciso said...: Fuentes is a nonentity, this is the likes of david weigel would focus on toduscreditthe tea party 10 years ago, but the left is suggesting the great replacement as an unmitigated good,; 11/14/19, 9:54 PM
mockturtle said...: Full Moon @ 8:44: Sounds like she is relying on the 'feigned incompetence' ploy regarding household tasks. My husband always used this with amazing success. But I could nearly always get him to do a 'fix it' job by walking through the living room with tools in hand like I was going to do it myself. I have a feeling this won't work with your wife, though...; 11/14/19, 9:56 PM
William said...: Hoover became the unimpeachable Hoover because of FDR's nurture and encouragement. Back then the FBI investigated the America First lobby, the German-American Bund, so it was all good. Hoover supplied FDR with salacious tidbits about his political opponents and allies, and that was even better. Hoover was quite squashable early in his career, but FDR was the one who gave him his stature. They had a good relationship. It's probably just as well when the President and FBI Director have an adversarial relationship.; 11/14/19, 9:57 PM
mockturtle said...: Narciso observes: The gist of it was someone was using hoovers file to blackmail corporate and govt officials more than 40years later.

Can you imagine the wealth of blackmail material the executives of Google have at their disposal?; 11/14/19, 9:59 PM
Sprezzatura said...: Is Mock being literal?

Or so the fix-it tools include a magic wand?

Maybe DBQ does something similar re her plumber husband when the pipes need cleaning.

I dunno.; 11/14/19, 10:00 PM
narciso said...: Discredit, its much like the left sought to discredit anticommunism because of thejohn birch society.; 11/14/19, 10:00 PM
mockturtle said...: Discredit, its much like the left sought to discredit anticommunism because of thejohn birch society.

Yep.; 11/14/19, 10:02 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: "What I had heard"
"I heard a staff person say"
"I heard of this conversation"
"What Sen. Johnson and Sen. Murphy heard"
"What I heard from people"
"I heard that his response"
"All I heard was that"
"I am telling you what I heard them tell me"

The California Raisins did it better

blob:https://www.youtube.com/4ef8a4fb-bb21-4c45-a5d4-dbaf8f5be81c

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why didnt Rosenstein stand when Kav got a standing O ?; 11/14/19, 10:03 PM
narciso said...: Well possibly, hoover shaped the bureau like fouche the french secret service, unlike mi 5 which didnt have one dominant figure.; 11/14/19, 10:03 PM
narciso said...: Also ferris buellers day off, that long riff about where he is.; 11/14/19, 10:05 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: oops! this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UShiwymsX0w; 11/14/19, 10:06 PM
Mark said...: This much is so -- whether the complainant (aka the so-called "whistleblower") is entitled to anonymity or not, the fact is that he is not anonymous. He is known.

What's more, any claim to anonymity that he had he has waived by voluntarily disclosing his identity to Schiff and the Dems.; 11/14/19, 10:11 PM
William said...: I'm working my way through the lesser known Shakespeare plays. The BBC produced a series of the complete Shakespeare back in 1984. The plays are well acted and have decent production values. Still, there's a reason why they're performed so seldom. Every so often you'll hit a stretch of great poetry, but there are lots of WTF moments. In Two Gentlemen of Verona, one of the gentleman attempts to ravish the other gentleman's beloved. He gets beaten off. Then he makes a sincere and repentant apology, not to the woman, but to her fiance. This gentleman is moved by his repentance and, in a generous spirit, tells his friend to go on and take the woman. The friend demurs and the two gentleman shake hands and become even better friends because of this misunderstanding. The woman involved faints. The criticism I read states that this play demonstrates how important male friendship was in Elizabethan time. Okay, but WTF.....I read here that knowledge of Shakespeare doesn't make you a better person. They got that right; 11/14/19, 10:15 PM
narciso said...: Well shakespeare was popular entertainment of the era, i guess more mamet then sondheim, except neither focused on historical events maybe lloyd weber without the music.; 11/14/19, 10:20 PM
Drago said...: adSs: "I thought that the whistle blower had no firsthand info. Only read reports and talked to folks. Hence his POV is shit, cons tell us."

My condolences to you on the collapse of your latest dem/lefty lunatic hoax.

At least the 7th hoax in a row to flop. That can't be easy on you.

Russian agent hoax - Fail
Illegal campaign payments hoax - Fail
Emoluments violation hoax - Fail
Russia Collusion hoax/hoax dossier - Fail
Obstruction hoax - Fail
Quid pro quo hoax - Fail
Bribery hoax - Fail

Good luck on your next one.

Thoughts and prayers.; 11/14/19, 10:22 PM
narciso said...: Coriolianus the tale of gaius martius, oneof his later tales is about thefickleness of the mob, much like themistocles the hero of actium, martius is banished to the land of the volsci.; 11/14/19, 10:23 PM
mockturtle said...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UShiwymsX0w

That's brilliant! Thanks, ICTA, I've never seen it before.; 11/14/19, 10:23 PM
narciso said...: Where he rallies the volsci against thecity who spurned his sacrifices; 11/14/19, 10:24 PM
narciso said...: With english history, he seems to have telied on tudor propagandist thomas morton, who painted plantaganets in a dark light.; 11/14/19, 10:27 PM
narciso said...: Relied, but five hundred years later, shakespeares themes still ring true, the film adaptation was in a modern milieu with echoes of the balkans; 11/14/19, 10:30 PM
mockturtle said...: Shakespeare is all about entertainment, not edification. But his remarkable use of language makes his works classic. When we studied Shakespeare in HS, it was for the richness of his poetic voice. Most of his plots--the tragedies, at any rate--are based on history so not original but the way he tells the stories is without equal.; 11/14/19, 10:32 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: de rien, Mock-- providing authentic whistleleaker vids

...is our raisind'etre ;-); 11/14/19, 10:34 PM
narciso said...: There is makings of a real story, but the blank pages wont tell it; 11/14/19, 10:36 PM
narciso said...: So we have to result on underground sources, of varying veracity.; 11/14/19, 10:38 PM
narciso said...: So stephen mcintyre who unearthed the rsal story of michael manns fraud, whichis still reaffirmed 10 years later by the bbc; 11/14/19, 10:40 PM
narciso said...: Now bear in mind he has a strong anti interventionist bias, however we cant reall take issue with the gist of his last few ukraine threads.; 11/14/19, 10:45 PM
mockturtle said...: de rien, Mock-- providing authentic whistleleaker vids

...is our raisind'etre ;-)

Heh-heh.; 11/14/19, 11:00 PM
narciso said...: Now they havent gone after mcintyre yet thee way they have done to john solomon, maybe they dont feel the need to.; 11/14/19, 11:04 PM
narciso said...: Of course wolffs pastiche of rumor and lies will get an airing thanks to hbo nextfall, or show time.; 11/14/19, 11:06 PM
narciso said...: With jay roach who has tarnished my view of austin powers, in his search for cheap agitprop.; 11/14/19, 11:24 PM
Roughcoat said...: Themistocles was the hero of Salamis not Actium. Octavian (later Augustus) won at Actium.

And reading Shakespeare really can make you a better person. Also smarter. In addition to his literary and storytelling gifts he had a deep understanding of human nature.; 11/14/19, 11:26 PM
narciso said...: Well you know what i meant, vergil was augustus propagandists,; 11/14/19, 11:30 PM
Roughcoat said...: His second historical tetralogy, the Henriad, is a profound and timeless meditation on the question of what makes for legitimacy in government. It has great relavence to today's circumstances. The Bard was no need popular entertainer. He was was all that and much much more.; 11/14/19, 11:39 PM
Roughcoat said...: No mere popular entertainer...; 11/14/19, 11:41 PM
narciso said...: Point taken the one with st crispins day was particularly compelling. Perhaps because of branaghs performance.; 11/14/19, 11:49 PM
Roughcoat said...: True about Virgil but he was a great poet nonetheless. "Arme virumque cano...." Reading him can likewise make a person better and smarter.; 11/14/19, 11:50 PM
narciso said...: Am i being reductionist perhaps the stories across five centuries have carried forth because they speak of immutable things life death love war power and lack there of, also shakespeare may have used historical events to illuminate current controversies.; 11/14/19, 11:55 PM
narciso said...: Question, so where does shakespeare wrest the legitimacy of the tudor crown, obviously consent wasnt even a minor issue. At that time.; 11/15/19, 12:00 AM
narciso said...: Certainly among the people, perhaps his cadre of knights and other warriors.; 11/15/19, 12:01 AM
Roughcoat said...: Agree. But his plays also succeed because he was a genius of a writer and a brilliant observer of human nature.; 11/15/19, 12:02 AM
narciso said...: Granted, and it a question for today where does legitimacy lie in the currenr regime. Is it the electoral collegw is it public opinion however garnered and interpreted; 11/15/19, 12:09 AM
Roughcoat said...: Re Tudor legitimacy: in typical fashion he deliberately doesn't provide answers. By intent he is a literary provocateur, a bomb thrower and hand grenade longer. Not unlike Christ with His parables.; 11/15/19, 12:11 AM
narciso said...: Well one is meant to infer that prowess at combat, along with the innate character ofcertain of the leaders; 11/15/19, 12:17 AM
narciso said...: But not others, adapting to modern times there does seem to be a surplus of treacherous counselors with the proviso that ' if treason doth prosper, no one dare call it treason'; 11/15/19, 12:19 AM
narciso said...: Is that enough philosophizing for tonight.; 11/15/19, 12:20 AM
Roughcoat said...: @ 12:09:

That's the $64 question. The issue with it's attendant drama -- and humor -- is positively Shakespearean, no? We know how prince Hal dealt with it and the Bard is ambivalent about the outcome, and the man. How we deal with will decide the date of the Republic.

Gotta go to bed now. Been a pleasure. ☺️; 11/15/19, 12:20 AM
Mr. Groovington said...: Mockturtle
Philomena Cunk on Shakespeare

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9YeCpHoy9EQ; 11/15/19, 12:21 AM
Roughcoat said...: Sorry for typos, I blame autocorrect. Not using a keyboard. I like philosophizing with you. Let's do it again sometime.; 11/15/19, 12:23 AM
narciso said...: I call it autocucumber, its a habit of 5heae platforms same here; 11/15/19, 12:28 AM
Roughcoat said...: "For God's sake let us sit upon the ground and tell sad stories about the death of kings."

G'night.; 11/15/19, 12:28 AM
narciso said...: Well one more link for the night?

https://mobile.twitter.com/CJBdingo25/status/1195160720071151618; 11/15/19, 12:40 AM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Schitt's gettin' real?

@SenRonJohnson
will subpoena:

- Joe + Hunter Biden
- Adam Schiff
- The Whistleblower; 11/15/19, 12:55 AM
William said...: Henry VIII is Shakespeare's least performed play. I saw the 1984 BBC production just recently. Shakespeare knew how to stay on the right side of Tudor politics. In the play, Henry suffers torments of conscience because he married his dead brother's widow. He thinks of it as incest, and it really bothers him. He's holier than the Church in this regard.....Anne Boleyn appears in the play. Everybody comments on how beautiful she is, but she isn't really given very many lines. Wise decision. She was killed by Henry and was the mother of Elizabeth. Very tricky person to dramatize. One wrong metaphor and you're drawn and quartered......Shakespeare's great insight into the nature of kings and politics had a practical side.; 11/15/19, 1:24 AM
Mr. Groovington said...: Blogger William said...Henry suffers torments of conscience because he married his dead brother's widow. He thinks of it as incest, and it really bothers him.

Not a Biden, then.; 11/15/19, 2:29 AM
Guildofcannonballs said...: https://www.npr.org/2019/11/14/779339897/3-indiana-judges-suspended-after-white-castle-brawl-that-left-2-of-them-wounded?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

This is almost as good as Judge Jerry Springer at showing how much respect is owed the legal system cogs.; 11/15/19, 3:07 AM
Guildofcannonballs said...: https://www.city-journal.org/seattle-progressive-city-council-amazon

Seattle billionaires are a disgrace to the fine sense of morality of the junkie prostitutes there and ought to be banished for more junkie prostitutes. If we can just get rid of capitalism, think of how equally wonderful every last single thing would be. Obama's brother was right: White man's greed runs a world in need. Punish them!; 11/15/19, 3:18 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: gilbar at 8:48 said...
Democrat Mike Quigley went on record today in Congress as saying ...
"hearsay can be MUCH better evidence than direct evidence."

Sounds like Lynch Mob Thinking to me. It went unchallenged too. As Prager mentioned today, "liberals are bystanders".; 11/15/19, 5:06 AM
rhhardin said...: Treasury yields tick higher amid uncertainty over US-China trade deal 3 hrs ago - CNBC.com

Treasury yields fall amid uncertainty over US-China trade deal 14 Nov 2019 - 14 Nov 2019 - CNBC.com

Financial analyst forgetting to check the previous day's lede.; 11/15/19, 5:29 AM
rehajm said...: I walked through th hallway surrounded by teens and twenty somethings.

They probably figured you were someone's dad...; 11/15/19, 6:06 AM
Professional lady said...: I just saw Henry VIII too - a live performance at Stratford, Ontario. I wasn't expecting much since it was the Bard's last play and was co written with another author. The Woolsey and Katherine of Aragon scenes were really moving. I was surprised given the politics of the day. But then I was reminded that the play was written after Elizabeth's death during the reign of James I. James I was no fan of Elizabeth who had his mother, Mary Queen of Scots, beheaded.; 11/15/19, 6:38 AM
Michael McNeil said...: After Althouse a couple of months ago strongly requested (on threat of deletions!) that people post HTML links (real, followable links), we see in a thread from yesterday with 91 comments so far including dozens and dozens of “links” that folks have posted, not a single one is presented as followable HTML.

I see that even commenters who included HTML (bold-face, say) in their post(s) — including many YouTube URL's whose text doesn't even give a clue as to their subjects — didn't bother turning the text URL into an HTML link. The fact is that unless there's some description which tempts and motivates me by indicating it's extremely worthwhile into going through the rigamarole (on a smart phone) of following a pure-text link, I ain't-a-gonna do it! Particularly if all the poster says about the matter (as seen above) is something like: “oops! this”. Sheesh!

If you, an Althouse commenter, want her commentariat to read your posts and follow your links (why post, otherwise?), make them links! Otherwise, as Althouse herself noted, her readers en masse just aren't going to follow them.; 11/15/19, 6:38 AM
Anonymous said...: And reading Shakespeare really can make you a better person. Also smarter. In addition to his literary and storytelling gifts he had a deep understanding of human nature.

I use the deeper understanding of human nature acquired by reading Shakespeare for evil, myself. So it goes both ways.; 11/15/19, 8:19 AM
FullMoon said...: Without a hyperlink. highlight and right click link to open.
To make a hyperlink , try this easy website.

Copy and paste to automatically make a link; 11/15/19, 9:25 AM
mockturtle said...: Themistocles was the hero of Salamis not Actium. Octavian (later Augustus) won at Actium.

I thought that was Testicles.; 11/15/19, 10:31 AM
mockturtle said...: Mockturtle
Philomena Cunk on Shakespeare

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9YeCpHoy9EQ

Thank you Mr. Groovington but I can endure really bad regional accents for only a minute or two.; 11/15/19, 10:34 AM
mockturtle said...: Michael McNeil, narciso's 'links' are often well worth the trouble of 'open link in new tab'.; 11/15/19, 10:36 AM
mockturtle said...: Certainly my favorite Shakespearean play, Julius Caesar tells us that nothing is new in politics. And this knowledge alone should convince young viewers that history did not, in fact, begin yesterday.; 11/15/19, 10:38 AM
Michael McNeil said...: Without a hyperlink. highlight and right click link to open.

Doesn't work on a great many machines/browsers, including iPhones/Safari.; 11/15/19, 1:43 PM
Michael McNeil said...: Besides, even just the part of simply highlighting an arbitrary string of characters on (e.g.) an iPhone is something of a pain.; 11/15/19, 1:45 PM
Michael McNeil said...: Here's the crib sheet I put together for narciso and others here, for them to “learn to code.”

One might note that even (dim!) Inga was able to enter such followable HTML links into her posted comments. I wouldn't just give up after only a single try or two, much less zero! Try it, please.

(I'll be glad to assist anyone getting beyond their blockage — if there's a technical aspect to it in their case at least. I so offered a while back, and now others who previously had trouble here making followable links work can now do them.)

But if you're having difficulty getting them to work (it's extremely easy to enter such links, but you've got to know which few special characters to put where), simply practice a few times — on, say, an Althouse post, e.g. a cafe post — and afterward delete your mistakes. Then you'll have it!

Here's how it works (note: omit the line endings shown for clarity between code sections; also: capitals vs. lower-case make no difference). I'm creating a link to Althouse's blog as an example. Everything shown except text in italics will appear as before, after, or part of the link:

text preceding link
<a href="https://althouse.blogspot.com/">
link description, e.g.: Althouse
</a>
text following link

Which thereupon comes out in one's posting looking like this (note that the link works!):

text preceding link Althouse text following link; 11/15/19, 5:14 PM