October 12, 2019

New word: issaidtobe.

"Giuliani Is Said to Be Under Investigation for Ukraine Work/Prosecutors are investigating whether the president’s lawyer broke laws meant to prevent covert foreign influence on the government" (NYT).

58 comments:

Skylark said...

So once again, the president’s lawyer may not gather exculpatory information when under investigation by the House based on an accusation by his political rival’s campaign....

But Fusion/GPS? Hillary’s law firm? They can dig up dirt wherever they can find somebody to make it up, and it’s all fully reported by the press and fodder for secretive hearings by politically motivated officials.

Bill Clinton would have told the Democrats to take their lumps, and concentrate on 2020, but Hillary? A woman scorned. You would think she would be embarrassed to play it so close to the stereotype, but she’s as dumb as Warren.

chuck said...

Of course. New York is North Korea without the cute marching girls.

MadisonMan said...

Translation: "This reporter heard two people talking about this possibility on a street in Manhattan"

bbkingfish said...

Yep.

Why bother reporting that at all? Anyone who can't figure that out for himself probably can't read anyway.

Michael K said...

Boy those Democrat DAs are on any guy investigating Ukraine like a duck on a June bug.

Reminds me of that guy that made the YouTube video about Muslims that set off Benghazi.

Sooper human effort.

Skeptical Voter said...

They don't even bother with the phrase "some experts say". Come on NYT, up your game!

Owen said...

“Issaidtobe” is a nice coinage. It sounds hissy and sinister and shaky and insinuating and slippery and sticking in a shiv and then slithering way. Who said the thing that is said to be? Why, nobody knows! And it doesn’t matter: it’s been said, so it’s a sort-of-fact, a shiny factoid, in fact it’s not just a shiny factoid but a smelly facturd, conveniently deposited in the middle of the discourse.

Oso Negro said...

I think we can pretty much assume that "prosecutors" are investigating everything related to Donald J Trump and will continue to do so as long as he is President. I had little faith in the government of the United States before this presidency. The comportment of Democrats at all levels of government since 2016 has eliminated what remained. If someone can name a public institution that they believe to be uncorrupted by progressive perversity, I wish they would name it.

narciso said...

indeed, they specifically avoided indicting podesta and weber, for their Ukraine related matters, remember how they separated them out from manafort and gates,

narciso said...

but as I explained this all stems from an ethics complaint filed by lois lerner's boss, the campaign legal center, a year ago, the head honcho paul smith, is head of jenner and block's reapportionment committee, (a firm who represented gitmo detainees, and alas where dc us atty jessie lieu comes from)

rhhardin said...

It can't be a word owing to its fixed number and tense.

Owen said...

“Shaky” —> “snaky”

Apologies.

Mark said...

I seem to recall ex-Secretary-of-State, John Kerry making explanations and apologies to Iran for our current President. Amiright?

narciso said...

ciaramella, the gossiper, is as genuine as Richard Clarke and paul o'neil, who misrepresented the historical record, apparently the first was that leaked the story of the laptop bomb,

Big Mike said...

@Althouse, you’re pretty far to the left of me. Perhaps you can explain to us loyal readers why the Democrats are at such pains to paint themselves as the party that supports corruption?

DavidUW97 said...

Passive and gossipy. Just like the betas that populate “journalism”. Captures the authors personality perfectly and the nugget of this non story. I guess in that sense it’s well done.

narciso said...

this was an early outing,


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/09/22/soros-backed-organization-attacking-moore-as-battle-with-luther-strange-for-senate-seat-heads-to-tuesday-vote/

tcrosse said...

Issaidtobe is a variant of Obama's Somesay.

Bay Area Guy said...

Where is Hunter? Did he study geology in college? Ukrainian energy experts are tough to find.

Temujin said...

Just reading the Issaidtobe, I was not sure if he was possibly being investigated, was definitely being investigated, or if this was just another breathless hiccup. And if he was being investigated, by whom? Durham? Barr? Schiff? Or Manhattan. And...it turns out a leak from the team in Manhattan.

'Hey...NY Times. Here's the latest Issaidtobe."

Its all too much.

traditionalguy said...

The Deep State gang of lawyers has been assigned the job of killing the "drug Sniffing Dog" that smells out the DEM corruption that they are sworn to cover up.

narciso said...

just like the compass aid center, founded by mark zaid, at the beginning of the trump administration,

rehajm said...

Unnamesd sources say issaidtobe...

Michael K said...

Cyrus Vance Jr seems to have ambitions.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Just to be clear - people here are arguing that Giuliani is not suffering from alcoholic dementia.

narciso said...

yes she was apologizing for the 1953 coup, that ousted Mossadegh, who was supported by the communists, (tudeh)

Ray - SoCal said...

Amazing how one sided investigations seem to be...

Soon as I read Manhatten based prosecutors, I got the political angle.

It’s a shame my first thought is political retribution and partisanship when I hear of any investigation of Trump and/ or associates.

I’m amazed with all the legal actions that have been thrown at Trump, much like the Coyote and the Roadrunner, he is still going.

BUMBLE BEE said...

NYT, as a rumor mill, it is TOPS.

h said...

Matt Taibbi's article today has a laundry list of discredited press reports, including: "January 19, 2019: “former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation” tell the New York Times the FBI opened an inquiry into the “explosive implications” of whether or not Donald Trump was working on behalf of the Russians." The NYT has depleted its reputation for reporting news honestly. Therefore when we hear from the NYT "is said to be" we smile knowingly and ignore it.

Michael The Magnificent said...

So, when do Hillary, Perkins Coie, and Fusion GPS come under investigation for soliciting dirt on Donald Trump from foreign sources?

Or do the laws only apply to Republicans?

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

He's in big trouble - for talking!

No talking! Talking about holy Biden creeps and holy Clinton creeps is against the LAW!

Fernandistein said...

@BEE, the NYT is the Rumor Mill of Record.

Bay Area Guy said...

I too though Rudy was losing it on the tv airwaves with his disjointed Ukranian rants. But then I listened to Andy McCarthy's podcast,who reminded us that Rudy was an absolute legendary investigator/prosecutor when he ran the SDNY federal prosecutions many decades ago, so.....

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Bay Area Guy, People Get Old

Drago said...

ARM: "Just to be clear - people here are arguing that Giuliani is not suffering from alcoholic dementia."

LOL

If that were the case the case the dems would not be scrambling to get Rudy on the air as much as possible for as long as possible to keep talking. Instead, the dems/left are doing everything in their power to shut him up!!

ARM thinks no one notices this in the same way Inga used to pretend there were no mass graves in communist countries and the dems are claiming that there is nothing "socialistic" about Venezuela!!

Once again, the reality of what the dems are doing completely contradicts what their minions are bleating.

But only every single time!

mockturtle said...

The Dems hope that by creating sufficient smoke the rest of us will assume there really is a fire.

Char Char Binks said...

NPR called “Giuliani associates” Parnas and Fruman “Soviet-born” (quelle horreur!), in line with NYT, New Yorker, WSJ, and others. A little google action shows that Parnas and Fruman are US citizens, so I’m going to go ahead and call NPR and the rest antisemitic.

Drago said...

Meanwhile in ARM-ville, Biden is threatening the other dem candidates not to even mention his "little" corruption "problem".

LOLOL

Biden thinks he can do to the dem field what Hillary did to Bernie in 2016 when she basically told Bernie to shut his yap about her "little" pay-to-play email evidence trail. It was like Dummy Bernie had Hillary's hand up his back and mouthing his words for him!

Poor Biden. He doesn't remember where he is and he can't even mouth his own words!!

mockturtle said...

The earth issaidtobe controlled by space aliens. [Said by a few nutty folks here and there]. But it's a true statement. See how this works?

gilbar said...

this IS fun!
The New York Times Editorial Staff is said to be kidnapping Christian Children!
The New York Times Editorial Staff is said to be murdering Christian Children!
The New York Times Editorial Staff is said to be collecting the Children's BLOOD!
The New York Times Editorial Staff is said to be using it to make Crackers and other Snacks!
The New York Times Editorial Staff is said to be using these Snacks for WEIRD rituals!
The New York Times Editorial Staff is said to be less than human, and should be Exterminated!

narciso said...

so much of this story, has barely been skimmed,



https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/465520-he-who-must-not-be-named-how-hunter-biden-became-a-conversation-stopper

daskol said...

I think Bannon has a point about calling these machinations the workings of the Deep State. Actually, it's not deep or buried at all. It's all right there on the surface: it involves members of Congress, senior leaders current and former of the intelligence and law enforcement apparatus, high profile prosecutors, judges, etc. Yeah, they also have peons they control scattered throughout the administrative state, and the administrative state is "deep" inasmuch as it's not subject to electoral oversight. But the conspiracies are in your face and upfront, right on the surface of things these days. It's become transparently a battle between the prior administration and the current one. Or call it a battle between the current administration leadership and the uniparty, where either the prior administration or the uniparty depending on your preferred formulation, still controls many of the levers of government. The uniparty is still trying to deny the insurgency. As the stakes get raised, and corruption of the Biden sort comes into play, the big worry I have as a supporter of the insurgency is that Trump and team will get ever lonelier because so many people in leadership are culpable.
The forefronting of political corruption, then, is a potent weapon against the insurgents: as blatant and widespread corruption is laid bare, the more people will gravitate to the uniparty opposing Trump. That's the strategic mistake Trump made when he mentioned Biden and Burisma on the Zelensky call: if he'd stuck to the 2016 related shenanigans, instead of broadening focus to the kind of nepotistic corruption rampant in government, he might have peeled away more uniparty types.

n.n said...

NYT, as a rumor mill, it is TOPS.

Rumor, innuendo, close association, a veritable whistleblower. Then there is WaPo, that is still working to extricate itself from the muck of Water Closet. Perhaps, one day, with Deep Plunger's help.

daskol said...

Excellent and restrained piece from Taibbi. It's not the deep state: it's a schism in the state. It's a transparent attempt at a coup, not in the shadows, but out in the open.

The Trump presidency is the first to reveal a full-blown schism between the intelligence community and the White House. Senior figures in the CIA, NSA, FBI and other agencies made an open break from their would-be boss before Trump’s inauguration, commencing a public war of leaks that has not stopped.

They said they were going to do it, Schumer warned Trump publicly what would happen, and it's never stopped. It's escalating, actually.

Gospace said...

Russia and the Ukraine are not friends.

Come on, Democrats, make up your mind. Did Trump collude with Russia? Or with their enemy Ukraine? Or did he collude with both in order to doublecross them? Oh, wait! That's the ticket! He was going to backstab both of them!

The effortless turn the media has made from Russian to Ukraine collusion is truly amazing.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

I want a job where I can make 50,000 a month - or else daddy is going to withhold military funding.

narciso said...

zelensky is like those reformist political figures in the cold war, in central America, for instance, the ambassador jovanich is allied to the previous regime, the one that lost 1.7 billion dollars of tax payer funs, glenn beck, totaled up some 20 billion in total economic legal and a passel of military aid, since 2014, the presumed gossiper, eric ciamerella was the Sherpa on most of these decisions,

The Godfather said...

IF Guliani is "under investigation" for what he's doing for Trump, can't Trump order the investigators to stop? Shouldn't he do that?

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

daskol said...
Excellent and restrained piece from Taibbi.


Thank you for the link. I agree it is a very tightly argued piece. The only thing I see wrong with it is that what he is describing is not new, as he implies. The Kennedys and Nixon had their own battles with the security apparatus. GWB was manipulated by the military industrial complex, in the form of Cheney. Intragovernmental battles probably date back to the Sumerians.

narciso said...

yes taibbi from his left wing perch, does have part of a point, he's allowed perhaps more than one as part of this new substack arrangement, mickey kaus does this well, the dispatch does this very poorly

Phidippus said...

Good idea. In our impending dystopian future, even space characters will be scare.

Phidippus said...

tcrosse: "Issaidtobe is a variant of Obama's Somesay."

And a first cousin to Therearethosewhosay, Theoneswhosay, and a more distant relative to Therearethosewhoclaim.

Very space (character) efficient, those. I wonder if they were invented by Scandinavians, or urban Japanese.

The Welsh translation is easily accomplished by removing all the vowels and replacing them with w's.

Clyde said...

"issaidtobe" by propagandists from them Democrat-Media Complex, aka The Ministry of Truth. Probably needs air quotes around "Truth."

bagoh20 said...

Others used more than ever these days are:
"ithasbeenreported"
"somearesaying"
"therearethosewhowouldargue"
and of course the root of all evil: "studieshaveshown"

Michael McNeil said...

‘W’ in Welsh is a vowel.

Skylark said...

Trump issaidtobe a criminal if he makes any attempt at a legal defense.

Robin Goodfellow said...

The new word sounds like a weasel word to me.

Phidippus said...

Michael McNeil: "‘W’ in Welsh is a vowel."

That's exactly the problem. You never know how to pronounce it.

Even today, the various Celtic tribes are imperfectly civilized. God bless them for that.