August 16, 2019

"It's just a type of berry from Japan, unfortunately. Very cool though!"

Went to a small fruit farm were they grew strawberries crossed with raspberries. from r/pics


Rubus illecebrosus — "a red-fruited species of Rubus that originally came from Japan (where is it called バライチゴ, roseberry), but is also very popular in some European countries like Lithuania. Common names include balloon berry and strawberry raspberry."

23 comments:

Fernandistein said...

Gluten free.

Nonapod said...

Yeah, while Strawberries and Raspberries are both in the family, they're completely different genuses. It's rare that species from different genuses but the same family can hybridize.

traditionalguy said...

Somehow it does not look right for a glass of champagne.

Fernandistein said...

It's rare that species from different genuses but the same family can hybridize.

I think that was a mistake by the OP reddit guy based on the "common name".

traditionalguy said...

Beware:it may be The Blob seeding the earth.

wildswan said...

It's native to Japan, it spread to Lithuania and emigrated to the US with unknown people, probably wives of early settlers. This "strawberry-raspberry" plant now grows wild in the wilder parts of New England and Virginia. But also grows in Minnesota. So this plant presence might record the presence in each place of a woman immigrant, probably from Lithuania. These women went to those places with cuttings from their old home-country gardens and afterward the plants escaped and live in the wild now. It was common for immigrants to bring favorite plants with them. That's how dandelions came to the US - with pioneer women who knew it in Europe as a home remedy. So if you checked the DNA of the dandelions in your front yard, you could find what place in Europe they came from and thus where the woman who brought that variety of dandelion came from. Dandelions reproduce by cloning and that's why you could tell where the woman came from. Maybe you could do the same with these "strawberry-raspberry" plants. Be an interesting high school project. (Yes, DNA studies are possible to the high school level.)

Big Mike said...

🎵 Les fraises et les framboises et bons vins que nous avons rur
La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la
Raspberries, strawberries, the good wines we brew
Here's to the girls of the countryside
The ones we drink 'em to 🎶

- The Kingston Trio

Seeing Red said...

It looks tasty.

Seeing Red said...

Would that be considered genetically modified?

Narr said...

Pfhhllluubbbbtt!!

Narr
Morning raspberries to y'all

rehajm said...

Tom Brady still aint touching it...

Nancy said...

But is it edible?

Ralph L said...

In the 80's, my mother planted some strawberry plants next to the raspberries, not noticing that the package said not to. Both died. The fig tree eventually took over that SW corner of the house up to the second story roof. It was the one area the builder put a decent amount of good soil.

khematite said...

But whatever happened to gooseberries?

rhhardin said...

Hello Berry

Dr Weevil said...

If you're wondering about the scientific name, Rubus is Latin for "bramble-bush, blackberry bush" or (individual) "blackberry", and illecebrosus is Latin for "full of allurement, very enticing, attractive, seductive". The genus Rubus includes raspberries and dewberries (whatever they are) as well as blackberries and these things.

Balfegor said...

I was all set to say that バライチゴ (bara-ichigo) is more like "rose-strawberry," but then I checked, and actually "ichigo" seems historically to have been used for generic berries, e.g. kuma-ichigo (bear-berry) or ebi-gara-ichigo (shrimp-shell-berry) for different Asian raspberry varieties. Interesting! Used alone, it's "strawberry," though.

Ann Althouse said...

They look great, but we're not seeing them in stores, so I'm going to guess they don't taste too good.

I found this description: "INSIPID I think would be the best word to describe it. They tasted of very little, even the long wait and anticipation couldn't improve the taste. Don't get me wrong, they didn't taste bad, they just didn't taste of anything really, just sweetness and a little sour."

Ann Althouse said...

And there's this:

"[I]t’s not safe to assume any old Rubus is worth growing for its fruit. My catalogue offers the balloon berry (Rubus illecebrosus), also from Japan. With its short, creeping growth habit, this species is sometimes called the strawberry raspberry. Sounds good, doesn’t it? And yet no one seems really enthusiastic; the catalogue describes the fruits as “fairly bland, much better cooked”, and one website, perhaps slightly more truthfully, says “can be cooked to make them palatable”. In any case, R. illecebrosus is one of several species that have been used by breeders to improve the wild raspberry, R. idaeus, so if you grow a modern raspberry variety, you are already getting the benefit of the balloon berry’s “best” genes, without the bother of actually growing it."

Ralph L said...

It's probably difficult to ship, too.

Gabriel said...

In the Pacific Northwest we have salmonberry (Rubus spectabilis). They tend to be sour or bitter, and they're not easy to preserve, but there are people who like them. They come out in May and June. There's also thimbleberry (Rubus parviflorus) which is sweet but with more seed, and too fragile to cultivate commercially.

Fritz said...

Wineberry (Rubus phoenicolasius) is a very common Raspberry relative native to Asia that has become rather common in the east coast and is considered an invasive species. The berries are decent (not as good as Blackberries or Raspberries, but better than Thimbleberries or Salmonberries). In some roadside patches you can pick a bunch in a hurry.

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