These people are all stricken with small penis syndrome. Even the ladies.
— Wesley Miller (@wesleymillerlaw) August 9, 2019
They just want to feel and look tough. A "hero complex" for those with nothing impressive or worthwhile in their lives.
ADDED: I love the way the photo has her fingers gently touching the word "WHITE." Screams posed, don't you think? Quietly, subtly screams...
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 356 of 356Belt seems narrow for a 1911. Even a Glock 26 IWB starts to sag without a good stout carry belt. An armed society is a polite society.
Part of why I like AR-15s is that they are so modular.<
My son built two with lowers he bought before CA banned them.
The stuff about "powerful" is nuts like Freder stuff. A Savage or Winchester 300. is just as if not more so.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
buwaya The point of all this is not to defend yourselves, as individuals...
Actually this IS exactly the point of being able to bear and maintain "arms". To PERSONALLY be able to defend myself.
Yes. Buwaya is an excellent fellow, but as he reminds us, he is only a foreigner, after all. So he doesn't QUITE get it. Freedom. Freedom from fear-whether of your fellow man, Indians, or a white-wigged tyrant three thousand miles away (or less). Or without the wig but in a three-thousand-dollar suit. Freedom is independence.
Even Englishmen once appreciated this, before their balls fell off:
'I dare say you are right,' said Stephen, his gaze fixed on the beady eye of a rat in the far
corner, gleaming in the lantern-light. 'He is a passionate man, and he has a great deal to
pursue.' He drew out a pocket-pistol and shot the rat as it advanced upon the soup. 'I
brought these for you,' he said, taking the other from his left-hand pocket. 'And here are
the little shot and powder flasks: I advise a quarter charge, no more. Picking off the rats as
they appear will occupy your mind, besides diminishing the nuisance.'
'By God, Maturin,' cried Diana, 'you could not have had a better thought.' She dropped his
arm, reloaded the smoking pistol and rammed home the wad. 'Now I need not be afraid,'
she said, her eyes as fierce and proud as a falcon's.
--The Fortune of War, Patrick O'Brian
Belt seems narrow for a 1911. Even a Glock 26 IWB starts to sag without a good stout carry belt. An armed society is a polite society.
Paddle holster.
Gee, imagine being so addicted to this blog that you can't keep away from it even after a ban.
Not commenting here is NO loss to me. - FrankiM
> subtly screams
Nice oxymoron. You know what they say when you're the one that hears the dog whistle, Althouse.
For CCW, unless you need the full ride, everything I hear about the very concealable segment says: SIG 365. Head and shoulders above the competition.
For you women, I saw a purse that hides a gun inside. Clever!
Women have all sorts of options. If a woman wears a skirt that isn’t too short and isn’t too tight there’s the thigh holster. If she’s a B cup or bigger there’s the “flash bang” holster that hangs under the front of a bra and holds a compact or subcompact semiautomatic. There’s something spandex about six or eight inches wide that wraps around the waist under a blouse with a built in pocket for a semiautomatic.
Wow. That looks like a full-size 1911, which is huge. I've heretofore managed to buy bread with a smaller model of the same caliber.
Freedom from fear
Freedom from fear? Carrying a firearm because you think a mountain lion might attack you is living in fear of something that is simply not worth worrying about. I don't know how you guys get up the nerve to operate a car.
I started paying a lot of attention to gun rights arguments back when Heller v DC was before the Supreme Court over a decade ago. I've read a lot of pro gun rights and anti gun rights stuff ever since.
It is telling that the anti-rights left has come up with absolutely no novel arguments beyond those they employed unsuccessfully in 2008 when the Supremes stated 9-0 that the right to be armed was an individual right, not a collective right, and also stated 5-4 that banning entire classes of firearms for self defense in the home was an unconstitutional infringement on that individual right.
It should be noted that the verbal contortions employed by the 4 liberal justices to deny the citizens of DC the right to keep a handgun in their homes, immedediately after agreeing the right to arms is individual right, make the emanations of penumbras of privacy rights that ended up as Roe v Wade look reasonable.
Since Heller, the left simply repeats the same tired complaints, the same refuted studies, the same emotional and illogical arguments again and again, emphasizing that they've had to repeat those losing arguments every time there is any publicity for their laments, as they dance in the blood of victims. Chicago gang violence? Well, that doesn't count, especially because Obama was from there.
Francisco D
Funny you should mention mountain lions. After being a shooter for many years, the thing that made me finally get a CCW permit was when a mountain lion was spotted on the trail my wife and I walk every day for exercise. No open carry here in the People's Republic of California, so that was my only choice.
And Freder
Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge of wildlife and how to deal with it. All the same, I'll not be whining about how that mountain lion was going to kill me no matter what as it sinks its teeth in my neck. I'd rather fight back, thanks.
Oblivion or obliviousness?
Here in New Orleans cars are broken into because people are specifically looking for guns to steal.
No wonder you hate the US, Freder. You chose to live in the worst city in America!
As for your views on freedom and fighting (or at least winning), listen to what an Irishman says, and do the opposite.
You should also not listen to yourself. New Orleans is a really superexcellent place to go armed.
My vote for mountain lions depends on the distance. When my kid was small, I always had a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot, by me when we were playing outside. If it got in too close, the shotgun also made a good club. If you have some dogs, to give you more distance, I would go with a rifle or carbine. Probably .223 or larger. Probably larger by a bit. Standard sized (>=20 round) magazine, for plenty of quick follow up shots. But if you are going to spend a lot of time in cougar country, and don’t expect a lot of time to react, I would go with something similar to the sort of self defense gun and ammo that you normally carry, but if possible, carry it open, and not concealed. Mentioned earlier that I was going to open carry my 10 mm this afternoon for the possible bear. But because we don’t have brown bear this low, but do have mountain lions, I alternate solid cast and JHP in the magazine. The solid cast penetrate well, for black (here) and brown bears, and the JHP mushroom, which is better for mountain lions, wolves, and (highly unlikely here) human attackers.
Sure, if the mountain lion can stalk you, get above you, and drop onto your neck you might be dead before you can react. You would be dead anyway. But if he screws up, you hear him, or his strike isn’t quickly fatal, you have a chance if you armed. Much less if you aren’t. I will go with that chance pretty much every time.
Internationally Noted Naturalist and Bundy Case Expert Field Marshall Freder: "Carrying a firearm because you think a mountain lion might attack you is living in fear of something that is simply not worth worrying about."
The actual real experts disagree with Freder. Seriously, who could have seen that coming?
Freder commenting on this subject reminds me of our beloved Wisconsinite Garage Mahal lecturing to all far and near that Sarah Palins half-eskimo husband and many times winner of long range snow machine races was doing it all wrong!!
LOL
Freder is an idiot.
"Experts say the best way to avoid a mountain lion attack is to make noise to scare the lion off and try to appear larger than you are. The same advice typically applies to bear encounters as well. Never turn your back on either and it’s a good idea to carry bear spray or a gun as a last resort. If you’re carrying a gun, fire a warning shot before taking the kill."
Stupid outdoors experts!! Telling us Freder is an idiot know-nothing!
when the Supremes stated 9-0 that the right to be armed was an individual right, not a collective right
Well this is simply a lie.
Chicago gang violence?
Please explain the logic that makes you think that concealed or open carry would reduce gang violence in Chicago? Lack of people carrying guns is certainly not the problem in Chicago.
The only possible comment that might make knock Freders comment out as the dumbest comment of the day would be for FrankiM/Inga to show up to mind-read the mountain lions and tell us mountain lions don't care about guns.
I agree that it pretty much has to be a paddle holster. That belt is just too thin to support the gun the way that it is hanging.
From Dumb to Dumber--> Noted Naturalist Freder: "Lack of people carrying guns is certainly not the problem in Chicago."
"people"
LOL
So very very dumb.
The problem in Chicago is the lack of honest citizens allowed to conceal carry so the criminals, protected at every turn by the dems/left/LLR-left have carte blanche to do whatever they want to average citizens.
That pistol aint gonna do her any good unless it's cocked and locked. Good luck drawing, racking, sighting, and firing under stress...
There have been about two dozen fatal mountain lion attacks in the last hundred years (and that is the U.S. and Canada). Bears kill about three people a year in North America. You may consider that a risk worth worrying about, I don't.
.223/5.56 is the same, whether in a Mini-14 or an AR-15.
@Bruce Hayden, I think that that was pretty much gilbar’s point. But although the two cartridges are dimensionally the same, the 5.56 generates higher gas pressures.
"Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!"."
-- Yeah, and locked doors just make thieves think there's something valuable behind them.
Outdoors Expertise Denialist Freder: "You may consider that a risk worth worrying about, I don't."
LOLOLOLOL
Who in the world cares one bit what your opinion happens to be on appropriate safety measures for people enjoying the outdoors in Mountain Lion areas?!!
Too too funny!!
The experts have spoken! The science is settled! But flat earther Freder puts his very tiny fingers in his ears and screeches I Dont Care I Dont Care I Dont Care!!!
Thank you Freder, for that most Freder-y Freder take on a subject you definitively know NOTHING about!
Sure, if the mountain lion can stalk you, get above you, and drop onto your neck you might be dead before you can react. You would be dead anyway.
I am not worried about mountain lions stalking me or getting above me due to the local terrain. When we are hiking, it may be a different story.
There are also rabid coyotes and javelinas that don't normally attack humans. It helps to be prepared for the abnormal situation. The cost of a good handgun is about that of a high end fountain pen. Who could object?
Freder is afraid to fight for anything, even his life. That's his business.
can you believe i'll have to add this? </sarc
"Freder is afraid to fight for anything, even his life."
Nonsense! Freder is happy to fight against constitutional rights!!
"There have been about two dozen fatal mountain lion attacks in the last hundred years (and that is the U.S. and Canada). "
-- Yeah. Bees and wasps only kill like 60 people a year, if that. Look at all those wusses with their epipens and the like. How dare they live in fear of a ridiculously minor risk.
Honestly, because I've never trained to shoot, I don't carry a gun. If I were trained and it were legal, on certain trips, I would carry it, for the same reason I carry a first aid kit, a map and a flashlight and spare battery even when I'm not planning to be gone that long: Because I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
(Hell, I carry two sets of batteries for my camera, even though I recharge my 16+ hour set of batteries before a day of hiking/museuming because I was taught to be prepared. I used to carry a back up memory card too until I gave it away and never bothered to re-stock it.)
How much water do people carry when hiking? I always carry about double the amount I think I'll need. I can't tell you the amount of times, even on simple hikes like Great Falls that are not dangerous at all, I've given away extra water because some people weren't prepared. I view a gun as the same sort of thing. It is way inconvenient to carry two extra bottles of water, until you come across a couple and their kids who are two bottles short.
Only, I guess, with the gun example, it's like, coming across a couple and two kids -- and they're zombies.
Ok, this analogy got away from me.
Foolish Field Marshal Freddie Does have a point
There is NOT a lot of danger of Mountain Lions.... In New Orleans
Matt Sabian: I don't carry bottled water when hiking but carry it in an insulated 2L 'platypus' bag that fits into my day pack. It has a hose that clips to the front of my pack with a valve to suck water from.
Sure, if the mountain lion can stalk you, get above you, and drop onto your neck you might be dead before you can react. You would be dead anyway.
As usual, Freder has no idea what he is talking about. I have been involved in an number of mountain lion attacks in California over the past 40 years. One of the first involved a 5 year old girl who was grabbed by the head by lion, which was dragging her into the brush in a state park.
She said she has no memory of her rescue by a hiker who grabbed a stick and poked at the mountain lion until it released her.
That is not the only example in my personal experience where bystanders beat off the lion and rescued the victim. A year blater another 5 year old was being dragged off when the parents beat the lion off with tree branches.
A few years later, two women were riding mountain bikes in the hills east of the city where I ran a trauma center for years, One women was attacked and the lion started to drag her away,. The other woman was able to beat off the lion. Her friend had a lot of facial injury (her husband a local oral surgeon, fainted when he saw her in the preop room) but was alive. Again, a lion was beaten off without firearms.
I'm sure Freder will disagree but I would suggest a Glock 19 would be even better at discouraging a lion.
I do agree that someone alone and inattentive is at great risk. When searching for the lion that attacked the woman, a sheriff helicopter found another victim. He was another mountain biker who had the chain come off a sprocket and was presumably attacked from behind. He was dead and the lion had eaten his liver.
No idea if this is posed or not; however, that belt is in no way sufficient to hold that pistol/holster combo.
Bees and wasps only kill like 60 people a year, if that.
Assuming this number is correct,what point are you trying to make? Bees kill 20 times as many people annually than mountain lions and bears combined. And that is only if you are allergic to bee stings. Everyone is allergic to having their throat rooted out.
Some of the non-fatal mountain lion attacks have been very ugly. A child of a family I knew had her skull crushed and her scalp ripped off. She was in the hospital for months.
What's really amazing to me is that we have people saying it's weird to go armed to the grocery store when the news has recently been full of mass murder incidents that happened in retail environments. When the nut case with the AR-15 starts shooting up the Safeway, do you want to say, Gee this wasn't the day to leave my piece at home?
Some believe a dead rape victim in an alley is morally superior to a woman explaining to the police why she shot the scumbag.
People who believe this are more commonly referred to as "morons".
"I don't carry bottled water when hiking but carry it in an insulated 2L 'platypus' bag that fits into my day pack."
-- Probably more effective, but I hate that feeling. I also hate straws.
"Assuming this number is correct,what point are you trying to make? Bees kill 20 times as many people annually than mountain lions and bears combined. And that is only if you are allergic to bee stings. Everyone is allergic to having their throat rooted out."
-- Hey, but it is a really small number still. It's just ridiculous to think it could happen to you, allergic or not. So, why bother being prepared?
In 2004 a man was killed and a woman severely mauled by a mountain lion ten miles from where I live.
In 1986, a young girl was barely saved from a mountain lion's jaws, also less than ten miles away.
Two years after that attack, a 6-year-old boy was mauled in the same location
Three documented attacks in my lifetime less than ten miles from where I sit. This is not the mountains of British Columbia, it's highly urbanized Orange County, California. You can be as careless with your own life as you wish, Freder, but please don't try to tell me the threat is negligible. It's my guess you don't get out of your basement much, anyway, and get most of your wilderness smarts from the Discovery Channel.
This photo is from a photo essay on time.com from 2010 on open carry. It is a posed photo (for Time) but, from looking at the other photos, her pointing to the white logo on the packaging appears a coincidence.
"You can be as careless with your own life as you wish, Freder, but please don't try to tell me the threat is negligible."
-- I mean, mathematically it IS negligible. But, you should still have the right to take the proper precautions.
No we don't have mountain lions but we do have gators (and bears in other parts of the state). Gators have killed 23 people in Florida (couldn't find the nationwide stats) since 1973. I don't worry about gators in the least.
Please explain the logic that makes you think that concealed or open carry would reduce gang violence in Chicago? Lack of people carrying guns is certainly not the problem in Chicago.
Another Frederism ! I almost missed it.
Freder invites these things with stupid posts.
A concealed carry permit holder was on the Northwest Side of Chicago last week Wednesday when she was targeted in a bump & run scam. As the suspects drove off in her SUV, she drew her gun and fired several shots in the residential neighborhood, just half a block from a playground.
Not the only one.
The victim of an attempted carjacking in Chicago was lucky to have his handgun to defend himself with, Wednesday afternoon.
The shooter, whose name has been withheld per his request, shot and wounded one of the two men who allegedly tried to steal his vehicle Wednesday afternoon on the city’s Southwest Side, according to Chicago police.
One of the two carjackers was shot in the groin and arrested on the scene while the other was nabbed by police outside an auto repair shop near 63rd and Whipple in the Chicago Lawn neighborhood.
The 29-year-old owner of the vehicle, who has a valid concealed carry license, fired his weapon after the two men approached him outside his PT Cruiser near 62nd and Homan.
And another one.
The shooting happened at around 3:15 a.m. Friday on Ida B. Wells and Clark Street after a man in a Volkswagen rear-ended a BMW.
According to police, the driver of the BMW got out to inspect the damage and when he went back to get his cell phone, the Volkswagen driver approached with a handgun, demanded his keys and pushed him into the vehicle.
Both men were inside the vehicle when police said the 41-year-old BMW driver retrieved his handgun and shot the 22-year-old man in the head.
And then Freder complains we ridicule him.
(The point here isn't to argue with Freder that the threat isn't negligible. There isn't a spate of unreported cougar/mountain lion/puma attacks. The point is: If there is an attack, people have a legal, unalienable right to self defense, and there should be no infringing said right -- no matter how minuscule the odds are that said person will NEED to use lethal force against mountain lion, mugger, or rabid wombat.)
Be prepared. Also, it is a civil right to keep and bear arms... legs, a head.
Tyrone, those were the same cases I listed. I cared for those people. Laura Small became a friend of my daughter's. She dated her brother for a while.
I also had a couple of lion attacks from "Lion Country Safari."
I repeat myself love the caliber hate the recoil check out magnaport.com. My .308 shoots like about .22. I've fired .357 security six, felt like .38. Muzzle flip reduced by %60. Smith custom shop turns out ported .40s all day long. Freder and Inga cartoon theoreticals. Talk much bullshit.
Trivia (OT)
Talking mountain lions, I did a bit of research last night, and was surprised to learn that mountain lions are closest, from an evolutionary point of view, to cheetahs and jaguarundi (which are not that close to jaguars), and closer to house cats than to real lions. All are Felidae, but lions, tigers, and jaguars are Pantherinae, while mountain lions and house cats are Felinae. You can tell which species was really the center of attention, of all the Felidae, with house cats being Felidae/Felinae/Felini/Felis/Catus, with felis (also feles, faeles) being the formal Latin name for house cats, and cattus the vulgar or informal name.
Dr K said ...
two women were riding mountain bikes...One women was attacked and the lion started to drag her away... another victim. He was another mountain biker
I remember the Hoopla about that back in the day. Someone died in Colorado that same year.
Wyoming Wildlife (issued by Wyoming Game&Fish) ran an article about cougars because of them. They pointed out, that although (at that time) Wyoming had more Mountain Lions than any of state; NO ONE in Wyoming had ever been killed by a Lion,
They closed by saying that They felt that Wyoming's 12 month open season on Mountain Lions had a LOT to do with that. Wyoming Mountain Lions are SCARED of people: people with guns
Michael K, you posted while I was typing, hence the redundancy. Thanks for being there for those people. Laura Small's story is one of tremendous courage.
I used to mountain bike in that same park. After the attack, I stopped. There were other places I could mountain bike.
Kipling, "Economics on the Frontier."
A skirmish at a border station,
A canter down a dark defile.
Two thousand pounds of education
Drops to a ten-rupee jezail.
Narr
Don't write 'em like that anymore
Tyrone, Caspers Park was closed to children after the second attack. Laura is married and living in North Carolina, I believe. She lost an eye and had some brain damage but that has resolved.
The mountain lion attacks began about 20 years after CA banned hunting them. They will continue,. I used to live in Mission Viejo and saw a couple when walking.
We have lions in Tucson and had a large bobcat walk through our (walled) back yard last year,.
5 people were bitten by a rabid bobcat a week or so ago. There was another rabid bobcat attack a year ago.
I bet just about every shooting victim in El Paso probably wished they had a gun that day, even if they were wishing the murderer didn't. I know I would be thinking that while being shot.
"All this got me fired up for some practice, which is incredibly easy here in Las Vegas."
Stephen Paddock is that you?
Too soon?
Memory holed?
What the f- happened there?
Why was the valet receipt in the girlfriend's name even though she was supposed to be out of town?
Of course, I am quite sure Freder, while being shot, would die peacefully with the knowledge that he upheld his values.
A concealed carry permit holder was on the Northwest Side of Chicago last week Wednesday when she was targeted in a bump & run scam. As the suspects drove off in her SUV, she drew her gun and fired several shots in the residential neighborhood, just half a block from a playground.
I don't know what the moral of this story is supposed to be. Looks like she surrendered the car, the guy was driving away when she remembered she was carrying a gun. Then, belatedly and recklessly she fired a few random shots in the direction of the fleeing car. Concealed carry did her a fat lot of good.
Freder wants to keep single women afraid of ex-boyfriends who have threatened to kill them unarmed and at fate's mercy.
Feder: come and walk my older neighborhood, or Mike K' which is just east of mine. We can go on a warm Saturday night, ...
Feder, her was a Saturday night last week, turn up the volume..
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/chicago-police-release-audio-of-weekends-most-violent-shooting
Freder: "Then, belatedly and recklessly she fired a few random shots in the direction of the fleeing car. Concealed carry did her a fat lot of good."
Concealed carry does not "work" in each and every instance, therefore it should not be allowed.
Murder has been outlawed but murders still occur, therefore the anti-murder laws should be removed from the books.
#FrederBundyCaseLogic
Concealed carry did her a fat lot of good.
I notice you ignored the other two stories found with a simple search,. I didn't link to all of them. You are a phony,
Every law on the books fails the Freder Constitutional Requirement To Be 100% Perfect And Effective.
I think we all know what that means.
Strangely enough, Freder applies his "interesting" "rule" only in particular ways. For instance, in Freder-world illegal aliens who are protected by sanctuary cities and who commit additional vicious crimes against women and children is simply a price some have to pay for Freder's virtue signalling.
And where is the mention of the off-duty armed firefighter who detained a man in a Missouri Walmart on the 8th who was carrying an 'assault' rifle, wearing body armor? He's lucky he wasn't shot.
>>Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!".
Of course. This explains why police officers are always being robbed.
“Sure, if the mountain lion can stalk you, get above you, and drop onto your neck you might be dead before you can react. You would be dead anyway.”
I think that was I, and not Freder. My point is that my understanding is that they try for immediate kill, with large prey, such as full grown males. But if they don’t succeed, which is probably more common than not, you have a much better chance at survival if you are armed. The jogger who was taken about 10 miles west of us, when I was sitting out on my porch with my 12 gauge, letting my kid play on the porch outdoors, appears to have died almost instantly.
It appears that at least with bigger prey, Mountain Lions prefer to attack the neck from the back, hopefully severing the spinal cord by biting between the vertebrae. They routinely take prey much larger than themselves this way, including a large number of elk, and even moose. Also, as Dr K pointed out they may attempt to crush the skulls of smaller prey, such as small children. But, luckily for us, their success against our species in this country appears to run consistently around 1/6, with 5/6 surviving. This means, to me, that going armed in cougar country is a good idea.
“We have lions in Tucson and had a large bobcat walk through our (walled) back yard last year,”
Interesting predator hierarchy in the continental US and Canada. Apex are brown bear (followed closely by polar bears), then black bears, followed by wolves and mountain lions, the determination of which is dominant being primarily, it seems, a function of wolf pack size. Below both are coyotes and bobcats, both of which are preyed upon by mountain lions and wolves. Indeed, despite the worries about elk, the species most affected, adversely, by the reintroduction of wolves into Yellowstone were the coyotes, at one point down to under half their pre wolf levels.
I'm not sure how "oblivion" is being used in this context. I would have thought "obliviousness" would be more applicable. But I'm always intrigued by Ms Althouse's elaborations on language and hope she expounds a bit here.
'open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!". "
The woman in the photo looks like she'd be much better off concealing it. Someone could easily grab that gun from her, holding another gun to her or not, especially when she's in a vulnerable position, and not only when she's reaching for bread on the second-highest grocery shelf. It may not be likely to happen, but it's about as likely as being attacked at all.
People DO grab guns. It happened to Officer Darren Wilson, and he had a hard time defending himself against a surprise attack from Michael Brown. Wilson weighed 215 pounds, and he almost didn't win against the 292 pound Brown. That woman wouldn't stand a chance.
Off-body carry, including purse carry, is also a bad idea. Small children have been known to rummage in Mommy's purse, and it has ended badly, at times. Off-body, out of mind.
For instance, in Freder-world illegal aliens who are protected by sanctuary cities and who commit additional vicious crimes against women and children is simply a price some have to pay for Freder's virtue signalling.
Can you provide a link where I said anything remotely like this. Because I certainly can't recall asserting anything like what you claim.
Making up shit to prove a point is really more Michael K.'s modus.
The woman in the photo looks like she'd be much better off concealing it.
I agree. Many woman use a loose shirt or top to conceal a CCW.
Off-body carry, including purse carry, is also a bad idea.
No, I disagree here, There are purses designed for guns like this one which is similar to my daughter's.
What was foolish in the examples cited by Freder is carrying a gun that is not safe. Those were probably revolvers with no safety.
Many trigger pulls are too much for children but the parent needs to know what is safe. Some Glocks have no safety but I am not familiar with the gun.
What was foolish in the examples cited by Freder is carrying a gun that is not safe.
That wasn't me.
Now that I live in FL, I'm considering a CCW. The only firearm that I currently own that I could carry concealed isn't ideal, a Firestar M45. It's plenty small enough but is heavy as a brick. The weight does provide for a very stable shooting platform for a small .45 though. I shoot it with more accuracy than my SA XDm 45.
--Rt1Rebel
That wasn't me.
Come on, Freder. You cited examples in which children got to the parent's gun and fired it.
Would you call that "safe?" My point was not really directed at you but if you want to accept the blame, be my guest.
Parents who have small children and who have guns are under an obligation to make sure it is a safe situation. One way is to make sure a gun is safe from a trigger pull. Semiautomatics with no round in the chamber are safe this way.
I'm sure from your posts you know nothing about this. You keep posting on topics you know nothing about,
As usual you are lying. I did nothing of the sort.
And when you look back at the entire thread and realize it wasn't me, you won't even have the decency to acknowledge your mistake (an apology is just too much to hope for).
Freder Frederson said...
Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!".
That is because you are stupid.
Freder Frederson said...
Please explain the logic that makes you think that concealed or open carry would reduce gang violence in Chicago? Lack of people carrying guns is certainly not the problem in Chicago.
It is illegal to have a gun in Chicago.
So the only people that have guns are criminals.
Law abiding citizens have no defense.
So criminals shoot a lot of people.
You are stupid.
Freder Frederson said...
Can you provide a link where I said anything remotely like this. Because I certainly can't recall asserting anything like what you claim.
Making up shit to prove a point is really more Michael K.'s modus.
You are a democrat.
Every major politician in your party supports sanctuary city laws that allow criminals to hide in these cities.
You will vote for whichever of these people wins.
Invariably these criminals commit more crimes.
This is the clear and obvious result of your actions.
The only conclusion is you want it to happen.
Freder Frederson: "As usual you are lying. I did nothing of the sort."
Filed under: Things Cliven Bundy Said To Freder After Freder Lied About The Results Of The Bundy Case
“HAYDEN, Idaho — The details are shatteringly ordinary. A 2-year-old toddler, sitting in a shopping cart in a Walmart, his mother’s purse unattended and within reach as she shopped. Three girls, all under age 11 — relatives of the boy and his mother, the police said — tagging along. A frosty morning in the northern Idaho panhandle, the temperature in the teens. Holiday break. The clothing aisles near electronics, back of the store.
Freder, I apologize. That was Inga. I go and come back after a few hours and did not realize that was her comment and not yours.
you won't even have the decency to acknowledge your mistake (an apology is just too much to hope for).
I did but did not notice that the Blogger did not post due to a typo.
I still think you post foolish things you know nothing about but that example was Inga, an even more foolish commenter,
Thank you Michael.
And then you ruin it with your next post.
Freder Frederson said...
Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!".
Cell phones and purses seem to scream "Rob me" more than guns.
Every major politician in your party supports sanctuary city laws that allow criminals to hide in these cities.
First off your first statement is simply a lie. Secondly, you don't even know (or you are willfully lying about) what a sanctuary city is. 1
I live in Tucson, carry concealed, and ignore all “gun free” signs. Legally the most they can do if they find out you’re carrying is evict you for trespassing.
My position is that since there are 300 million plus guns in private hands in America, it’s impossible to put that genie back in the bottle, so that more “gun control” is a waste of breath. Best way to cut down mass shootings is to eliminate all “gun free” zones. Mass shootings, other than the Fort Hood terrorist attack, ALWAYS take place in gun free zones, where the shooter knows there will likely be no effective defense.
Another way to get to the same place is to make gun free proprietors liable for any harm caused on their premises.
Do not carry a gun into a government building though. Different kind of gun free zone, with consequences for carrying.
"Cell phones and purses seem to scream "Rob me" more than guns."
Really?! A purse is basically a grab bag, cash is the only valuable thing in a stolen purse (gone are the days when you could charge things on the credit cards for days or weeks, you've got an hour tops). What can you sell a stolen cell phone for? Probably less than a hundred bucks. A semi automatic pistol? Probably full retail if not more.
And then you ruin it with your next post.
Rodney Dangerfield Freder,. Gets no respect,
And your third
Freder, I know what a sanctuary city is and Tucson, reliably leftist in spite of David Monthan AFB and lots of military retirees, is debating a proposal. Orange County is now a shithole because of illegals and crazy homeless.
Freder: "First off your first statement is simply a lie."
LOL
List the ones that dont.
Freder prefers lefty "truths" over facts.
Mass shootings, other than the Fort Hood terrorist attack, ALWAYS take place in gun free zones, where the shooter knows there will likely be no effective defense.
And the Fort Hood shooter knew that his fellow soldiers were unarmed on base.
I was in Washington (state) recently, buying ammo for my beautiful and ancient Remington Nylon 66. I asked to see the Ruger 10-22 they had on sale; I think those have been around even longer than the Nylon. I wanted to buy it on the spot, but the sales rep said I couldn't unless I already had my Washington permit. How come? Because in Washington state, the Ruger 10-22 is an "Assault Weapon."
So that's what the lefties want to ban. A basic beginner's .22 target shooter. I'll think of that when I hear that we need to get rid of those horrid weapons that are suitable only for the military.
Freder: Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!".
I'm constantly surprised at how stupid the Left is re gun control.
No Freder, its a big sign that says "go rob and murder where Freder shops"
Did you know that you cannot buy a handgun in Alaska unless you are an Alaska resident? I had hoped to do that rather than have mine shipped at great expense to avoid taking it into Canada, which is illegal.
I wanted to buy it on the spot, but the sales rep said I couldn't unless I already had my Washington permit.
What part of "shall not be infringed" do I need to explain?? I think you're trolling me, but I'll find out. There's a Glock I've been hankering to buy. Cabela's has a really nice store on the Tulalip Indian reservation.
LOL look at the Tweeter's profile page. He's like 18 years old or something.
Did you know that you cannot buy a handgun in Alaska unless you are an Alaska resident?
That might be new as I was about to buy a colt single six years ago there. It was an 1893 model.
Steven Segal's wife had bought him a nice arrangement with an antique Winchester rifle.
"if you're a small handed lady - a .38 might be more appropriate"
This is what a lot of small women are told. I think it's bad advice. A .38 has a lot of kick precisely because it's small and light. And it takes longer to get back on target because of greater muzzle flip, so in my opinion it's less safe.
I have very small hands -- so small that I had reach reduction kits installed on most of my guns.
I tried a Ruger LCR on the insistence of a friend. The recoil hurt my wrist and was harder to control than any of my semi-autos.
I'm partial to CZs because of the excellent ergonomics and the weight -- even the 2075 RAMI is heavy for a subcompact, and it would be my choice for concealed carry if I lived in a sane place that issued permits.
Whenever I've invited women friends to try my CZ 75B or 75 Compact, every one has said, "Ooh, I like this!"
Orange County is now a shithole because of illegals and crazy homeless.
I don't know what "crazy homeless" has to do with sanctuary city status. But a medical professional using such language to describe the mentally ill is truly disgusting.
“@Bruce Hayden, I think that that was pretty much gilbar’s point. But although the two cartridges are dimensionally the same, the 5.56 generates higher gas pressures.”
That is why my AR-15s are 5.56 and not .223. I can safely shoot either. Couldn’t with .223.
That said, I would suggest that you are it picking. My point was that there wasn’t a lot of difference functionally between Mini-14 and AR-15 (except that you can get AR-15s in .223 or 5.56, and Mini-14s only in 5.56). I like the modularity of the AR platform (though we recently discovered that AR-10s are not nearly as well standardized as AR-15s, when we found that the 80% complete AR-10 lower receivers we had bought didn’t fit in our AR-10 jigs).
Each to his own.
I don't know what "crazy homeless" has to do with sanctuary city status.
"I don't know what slick streets have to do with rain", he said...
Freder, what you don't know would fill a large book. Lots of the "homeless" of Orange County are illegals.
You can be as careless with your own life as you wish, Freder...
Oh no. I can promise that Freder will be careless with OTHER people's lives, not his own.
It's as if the Left doesn't really believe in the things they lecture the rest of us about :)
That is why my AR-15s are -
I think it's a great choice. But then, I carried one (M16A2) for so many years that it became an extension of my right arm. It's an outstanding weapon. Superior range and accuracy. The only drawback being that it takes more maintenance than an AK. Treat it well and it will last a lifetime while ensure that lifetime runs long.
Oh, funny story. When I was started dating my wife, her father (former DEA agent) took us to the range to shoot his AR15. I was fresh out of the Marines, fired 10 rounds at 30 yards, AND DID NOT EVEN HIT PAPER. So embarrassing. To this day I still have no idea what went wrong. Granted, I was shooting from the standing position, the least stable, without a proper BZO... but to not even hit paper so I could identify the problem and adjust windage/elevation. Sad.
My future father-in-law had an odd smirk to his face that still haunts my dreams :)
Ya know, it occurs to me now that maybe he rigged it just to make me less cocky. Hmmm.
Freder Frederson @3:13 PM: "Mountain lions hunt by stalking their prey. If you think that you are going to get off a shot in the fraction of a second between the time you see it and it pounces, you are seriously deluded."
Okay. Then let's just give up.
Isn't that what you want us to do? Just give up? We're hopeless. Just give up.
Ridiculous. In all the annals of human history, man does not just... give up. That's why we're here!
Freder Frederson @3:00 PM: "Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!". There are few things that retain more of their value for someone dealing in stolen goods than a handgun. One guy sticks a gun in your face, second one takes your gun. Probably worth more than hot Rolex. Here in New Orleans cars are broken into because people are specifically looking for guns to steal"
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The "second one" negates the single mass shooter context we've been talking about here since 10:57 AM. Recent mass shooters do not comply with your vision about how things go, as they seem disinterested by status artifacts like a Rolex. Sorry.
Cars in New Orleans are broken into because they don't shot back.
You're a very silly person, Freder.
Freder: "Mountain lions hunt by stalking their prey. If you think that you are going to get off a shot in the fraction of a second between the time you see it and it pounces, you are seriously deluded."
Did you read that in a textbook? Shit, then you probably agree with Beto -- we're gonna be smoking' hot in 10 years!
Seriously deluded city folk refuse to believe that you can't wrassle a mountain lion. Davy Crockett sure did!
Maybe you're just a pussy...
"Did you know that you cannot buy a handgun in Alaska unless you are an Alaska resident?"
Hey dumbass, did you know you cannot buy a handgun in any state unless you're a resident of that state and take delivery in that same state?
Well I be goddammed!!!
I am astounded as to how many people who seek to make points about guns and gun control have no idea what the laws are. Sad.
Freder Frederson @ 8:50 PM: "I don't know what "crazy homeless" has to do with sanctuary city status. But a medical professional using such language to describe the mentally ill is truly disgusting."
How you describe and relate to half your nation's population is truly disgusting.
You speak as though most mainstream relationships to guns is crazy. That's crazy!
And Michael K is a retired medical professional. Let him enjoy his retirement in peace!
What's your current/former profession, asshole?
Yes, 5.56 vs. 223 Remington is nit-picking.
Rule of thumb: 223 can go in a 5.56 gun, don't use 5.56 in a 223 gun.
Those are the basics. But it's not a religious thing, just a super-safety thing.
On top of that, you get into chamber pressures, etc. Very, very technical. Just don't fire a 5.56 cartridge in a 223 Remington chamber, if you want to be super-safe.
Trust me, you'll survive.
@Ignatius
Ms. Mockturtle is quite intelligent. That was uncalled for.
Michael K @ 9:32 PM: "Lots of the "homeless" of Orange County are illegals."
Of course. Just in time for the census.
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM @10:55 PM: "That was uncalled for."
Oh.
What did I miss there?
I don't know what you're talking about.
Whats all so interesting is how Democrats see America. I just find it fascinating...
@Ignatius
mockturtle said...
Did you know that you cannot buy a handgun in Alaska unless you are an Alaska resident? I had hoped to do that rather than have mine shipped at great expense to avoid taking it into Canada, which is illegal.
Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...
"Hey dumbass, did you know you cannot buy a handgun in any state unless you're a resident of that state and take delivery in that same state?"
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM @11:45 PM:
Oops.
mockturtle @8:22 PM:
My apologies.
Rotwang's cabana boy wrote: Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!".
Seems to me Freder is just the sort of cretin who would conclude that.
Yes, Freder you are absolutely correct. The armed woman is advertising her vulnerability to robbery. Just like a sign reading Warning! Electrified Fence is an invitation to climb the fence it is attached to, and the signs in Yellowstone reading DO NOT APPROACH BUFFALO actually mean "buffalo available for selfies ahead."
Jebus Crisp on a stick, Freder, make a witty comment or tell us something novel and interesting — just once. Besides being useless stupidity is also boring.
She is quite gracious, so will most likely accept your apology on the morrow, my good man.
Granted, I was shooting from the standing position, the least stable, without a proper BZO... but to not even hit paper so I could identify the problem and adjust windage/elevation. Sad.
Projectile mass and twist rate — the AR-15 is particularly sensitive to mass/twist mismatches.
"Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!".
These are the same criminals who won't commit Burglary to a house during the day if there is a small barking dog inside. They move on. Also notice cops aren't constantly robbed for their guns.
When Freder does get up the nerve to operate a car does he ditch the spare tire?
"Please explain the logic that makes you think that concealed or open carry would reduce gang violence in Chicago?" Freder
"Chicago formerly prohibited the sale of firearms within city limits, but on January 6, 2014, a federal judge ruled that this was unconstitutional." wiki
"CHICAGO (WLS) Jan. 1, 2019 -- A total of 561 people were murdered in Chicago in 2018, according to preliminary data released by police Tuesday.
The number of murders declined from 660 in 2017 and 777 in 2016.
Police said there were 2,391 shootings in 2018, down from 2,777 shootings in 2017 and 3,550 in 2016. In those shootings, there were 2,948 victims in 2018, 3,463 victims in 2017 and 4,351 victims in 2016."
" Year to date: total homicides 311, shot and killed 284" Heyjackass.com.
My kinda gal...nice ra...er, 1911.
I hope she has a 500 S&W Magnum wheelgun on her left hip because any gun kills the body,the M1911 .45 ACP kills the soul, but the 500 S&W Magnum will kill thw devil himself.
It might be an alum frame .45. It certainly looks custom. I like how a strong woman , armed, makes the usual suspects nervous.
"In Chicago, 306 people have been killed this year. (2019) That is 47 fewer than 2018.
Data through Wednesday, August 7"
Chicago Tribune
Gun violence in Chicago has decreased every year since Trump was inaugurated.
Blogger 0_0 said...
Full Moon is correct. The photo is of Jan Cushman, part of an Time article published after the MacDonald SCOTUS verdict.
http://content.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,2000412_2158678,00.html
8/11/19, 2:58 PM
Thank you for this. While this post is related to guns, I think it’s more related to the distortions and lies of social media and those that use it.
“The photo is of Jan Cushman, part of an Time article published after the MacDonald SCOTUS verdict.”
That explains her hand on the word “White."
"I don't know what "crazy homeless" has to do with sanctuary city status. “
What could competition for housing have to do with homelessness?
I'm all for carrying a .45 (because .44 is too small), but as any 1911 shooter knows, that thing needs to be carried cocked and locked, ready to rock.
And, yikes, it looks like she's using a SERPA holster. Hopefully her first casualty won't be her foot.
“On top of that, you get into chamber pressures, etc. Very, very technical. Just don't fire a 5.56 cartridge in a 223 Remington chamber, if you want to be super-safe.”
Or just buy 5.56 barrels. If you are buying guns for WSHTF situations, you would presumably want the gun (or, with an AR-15, the barrel) that can safely shoot the most ammunition, and that is 5.56 over .223.
That also, BTW, factored into my decision to buy a G20 as my 10 mm bear gun. It is one of the few 10 mm handguns that is considered safe for also shooting .40 S&W, which is both cheaper and much more plentiful. Outside this part of the country (W MT) it is hard finding 10 mm target ammunition (or solid cast bear loads either). Pretty much everything I found in AZ was high priced self defense ammunition. So, while I couldn’t find a single box of 10 mm FMJ at the Cabellas right by the house in AZ, I could find .40 FMJ by the case. Even better when it comes already in a plastic ammo can, as it did.
What's notable is the Mean Girl shaming language coming from liberal men.
She is quite gracious, so will most likely accept your apology on the morrow, my good man.
Apology [in all its apparent insincerity] accepted, Ignatius. And ICTA, my knight in shining armor, thank you for your chivalry. :-)
Can anybody show me actual evidence that WalMart was posted? I've never seen a posted WalMart, and the required signage is very specific in Texas.
The reality is, there's only a few thousand licensed carry permit holders in all of El Paso. The odds are against one of them being present at any given location.
@mockturtle
You are due the respect you've earned here.
Most likely it was an unintended faux pas, and we all make mistakes.
Prov 19:11
And we trust, should ever the Sterling Characters of those of Ingachuck'stoothessARM be impugned, or temporarily lapse, that you would do the same.
Freder, Char Char (and the others who commented about the risk of open carry),
The modern open carry movement is at least 15 years old now; surely after so long a time you could have links to actual incidents where this has happened, rather than mere speculation.
The fact that there aren't lends supporting evidence to a different speculation--criminals are almost always looking for an easy target.
Per ICTA: You are due the respect you've earned here.
Most likely it was an unintended faux pas, and we all make mistakes.
No, I actually believed it was possible to buy a handgun in Alaska due to the difficulty of taking one into the state through Canada. And I think it was, at one time. I was wrong so I really am a dumb-ass. ;-)
And we trust, should ever the Sterling Characters of those of Ingachuck'stoothessARM be impugned, or temporarily lapse, that you would do the same.
Of course.
DBQ, exiled:
Of course I'm not going to second-guess anyone's choice in a carry piece, especially not if you are happy with yours... But if people are considering and switch you should note that for a given caliber, the smaller and lighter that gun, the greater the perceived recoil.
One consistent thing I have noted, from my experience taking people on their first handgun shooting experience, is that they do their most accurate shooting with a full-size 1911. None of the women who have done so with me have ever said they preferred the 1911 afterwards; mostly they gravitate toward the Bersa Thunder .380.
But of course the final word on handgun selection is this: handguns are like shoes! Just because a particular handgun works for someone else, doesn't mean you will find it particularly comfortable or well-fitting. if you're shopping for a handgun, please by all means go to a rental range that has a wide selection, and try out the one or ones you are considering, along with some others, and don't make your final decision until you have proved that it really does feel good in your hands.
[Editorial note: I've gotta just stop commenting on my phone, the tiny edit porthole makes it far too hard to see any typos/fanciful voice-dictate errors.]
mockturtle,
"No, I actually believed it was possible to buy a handgun in Alaska ... And I think it was, at one time. I was wrong so I really am a dumb-ass."
Go easy on yourself! No mere mortal can possibly keep up with the entire list of unconstitutional federal laws.
@Mock
thanks
btw-- the faux pas was Ignatius's, and we, capable of similar, plead mercy.
Carrying a firearm because you think a mountain lion might attack you is living in fear of something that is simply not worth worrying about. - Freder
Better to have something and not need it than to need it and not have it.
But personally, I'm glad people like you don't carry. You're too stupid to own a gun.
"Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says 'Rob me!'".
Or a sign saying "Try to rob me and I'll perforate your solar plexus with a couple of .45 slugs."
Carrying a firearm because you think a mountain lion might attack you is living in fear of something that is simply not worth worrying about. - Freder
Remember to check that fire extinguisher under the sink.
Here's a handy checklist to avoid living in agony with 3rd degree burns.
You should consider one for the auto too, in case you happen upon a bad accident.
Maybe keep you nose out of other people's business too. It's not your place to tell others what they should and should not be prepared for. Especially a liberal like you. There's an old saying:
Your car has a flat on the side of the highway. A conservative knows how to most effectively help but he won't stop for you. A liberal will pull over to help change the tire but will somehow manage to set your car on fire.
Just kidding, you don't need to carry a fire extinguisher. When every second counts, the Fire Department is only minutes away.
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