July 7, 2019

"Aided by a strong economy and perceptions that he has dealt with it effectively, President Trump’s approval rating has risen to the highest point of his presidency...."

"... though a slight majority of Americans continue to say they disapprove of his performance in office, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll.... [M]ore than 6 in 10 Americans say he has acted in ways that are unpresidential since he was sworn into office. Still, roughly one-fifth of those who say he is not presidential say they approve of the job he is doing, and he runs even against four possible Democratic nominees in hypothetical ­general-election matchups. He trails decisively only to former vice president Joe Biden. Trump’s approval rating among voting-age Americans stands at 44 percent, edging up from 39 percent in April, with 53 percent saying they disapprove of him. Among registered voters, 47 percent say they approve of Trump while 50 percent disapprove. In April, 42 percent of registered voters said they approved while 54 percent said they disapproved."

WaPo reports.

Top-rated comment: "After all he has done, the embarrassment he has brought to the US, his lying and losing and lawlessness, nevertheless his approval numbers are going up.... Maybe there is no hope for this country."

122 comments:

Fen said...

Two different movies

rcocean said...

Thankfully, its all relative. Once the 51% of America that isn't yellow dog Democrat gets a look at the D Candidate, Trump will win. Disapproval or not.

elkh1 said...

"...Maybe there is no hope for this country."

A heartfelt advice: get out while you can. 2020 is around the corner, you will suffer four more years of TDS which may lead to brain dead and worse to the infected.

Marcus said...

The best president in my lifetime. I am 64. Looking forward to his second term.

THEOLDMAN

rcocean said...

The high Disapproval ratings is astounding given we're at peace and prosperous. It shows two things. One, the power of the MSM. 92% Negative Trump coverage, effects a lot of low-information idiots. Two, because of Demographic change, the number of Yellow Dog, "I'll vote Democrat no matter what" Democrats is growing each year. We've seen it in California, where 50%+ voters will always vote D. The D's in California could nominate AOC for Governor now - and she'd win.

Birkel said...

All of those complaints amount to a cry for help.

The embarrassment of rewriting NAFTA to stop Chinese importation through Canada and Mexico?
The embarrassment of denying Democratics power?
The embarrassment of 3% GDP growth?
The embarrassment of historically low unemployment?
The embarrassment of cutting regulations?

I love that after 8 years Trump will have nominated nearly half the Judiciary.
Let's be embarrassed by the replacements for RBG and Breyer, too.
Please?

Dave Begley said...

Lying, losing and lawlessness? What exactly would that be?

These coastal elites are going to be in for a big shock when Trump wins the Electoral College in a landslide over Kamala Harris.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Again - please name that lawlessness.

n.n said...

Beware Deep Plunger... WaPo is still muddled in the spewing muck of Water Closet.

He trails decisively only to former vice president Joe Biden

The very warlock, the son of Obamacares, who promises progressive prices.

The D's in California could nominate AOC for Governor now

The very witch who imperiled the welfare of the transnational migrants.

After all he has done, the embarrassment he has brought to the US, his lying and losing and lawlessness, nevertheless his approval numbers are going up...

Ah, progress, unprincipled, monotonic. Obama?

Fen said...

I'm skeptical if even the top-rated comment system when it comes from the likes of WaPo and the NYTs.

These newspapers do not conduct themselves professionally, we've seen it time and again with the way they censor stories or distort the truth.

Imagine, Ann, that you had such a comment rating system and also the ability to tweak the numbers to make certain comments rise to the top and some fall into obscurity. You could even anonymously and post your own comments and add 4,000 likes to them to front page them as the comment of the day.

I know you are aware of how a comment can change the discussion flow because you specifically warned us against hijacking threads, especially in the opening comments.

I'm just saying, we know these people are corrupt, do you think they really don't abuse their own system? I don't trust them, I bet they massage their comment up/down votes. And if they don't get the remark that they want, they created themselves.

Dave Begley said...

The polls all had Hillary winning. Why should we believe these polls? Especially since it is a national poll and not a state-by-state set of polls?

This horse race coverage is all part of the inevitability narrative that the Dems and Fake News love to push out.

buwaya said...

Two people, two realities, two countries.
You cannot have normal nation-state politics unless it is within a substantially common mental frame.
But you no longer have that.

Fen said...

Sorry for the errors voice to text is still primitive and I don't have the time to Oedipus

LOL edit this

Stupid phone

wbfjrr2 said...

Both ABC poll versions are useless--"voting age" is just the general population regardless of whether they are even registered to vote--polls often list these as polls of "adults", and these usually poll lowest for Trump. A very large % of these people do not actually vote.

Then there is the poll of "registered voters" which polls higher for Trump, but still polling a significant number of people who do not vote, and thus who's opinion is interesting but otherwise irrelevant.

The most meaningful polling pool is of "likely voters", people who have had a fairly recent history of actually voting. Rasmussen only polls "likely voters", and on a daily basis. His numbers are almost always higher for Trump than polls of "adults" or "registered voters".

Then again, there is a significant % of the population that avoids answering truthfully, or at all. That would include the so-called "shy Trump voters".

Calling randomly, by the way, demonstrably leads to more calls in CA, NY, IL, TX and FL due to populations of these states.

Bottom line is most of the polls are useless, and often purposely skewed to support a party or candidate. This is especially true of "national" polls, since we elect by state, not by national popular vote, much to the recent chagrin of the Left.

Slightly off topic, I'm convinced Obama's high approval ratings were always overstated, especially in the last year of his disastrous reign. Just as there are "shy Trump" voters, there were many who could not bring themselves to truthfully voice disapproval of our first black president, regardless of how harmful his policies were to America. Fear of ostracism in the age of runaway PC is a strong demotivator for expressing truth.

buwaya said...

These newspapers are professional indeed, the matter only confuses because too many people misunderstand which profession it is.

tcrosse said...

Lying, losing and lawlessness? What exactly would that be?

What Hillary did.

Bay Area Guy said...

"Maybe there is no hope for this country."

I would say there's no hope for Leftists or Socialists or Marxists or Commies in this country, and they should go elsewhere.

As for liberals, well, they gotta choose better allies.

doctrev said...

Americans love the strong horse, as most humans do. And if Joe Biden had a chance of beating Donald Trump- ever- he would have done it back in 2016. As it is, you watch that CNN video where he only has a loose connection to reality- promising to rebuild our "alliance" with Germany even as they deal with ze Russians for natural gas, vowing that no Russian could have intefered with an election on his watch (LOL!)... this guy is a disaster. Trump embellishes and basically strings emotions together to max out the fanaticism of his supporters, at all costs. Versus Joe Biden, who simply doesn't know where he is right now.

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Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

There’s a lot people who fear they are now living in a shithole country. That they all oppose Trump gives me hope. That there’s so many willing to air their irrationality in public is fascinating.

Big Mike said...

Please, let Trump’s opponent be the father of a guy who accepts bribes from foreign government! Puh-LEEZ!!! Because voters really, really love voting for corrupt politicians.

Otto said...

All white noise. Pure click bait. Ann's new style for adding omph to click baiting is to post the top commentator input. She reminds me of a high school football coach trying to get his team all "riled up" with his half time antics.
Maybe its just the long tiresome grind of voluminous blogging. Vacation time, Ann?

gspencer said...

"Trump's cancer cure ignores diabetic sufferers"

Bay Area Guy said...

As noted unthread, the two main objectives of 330 Million Americans is: (a) prosperity and (b) peace.

If we have that, the Incumbent President wins. If we don't have that, he loses.

We have that. All the rest is noise.

Have a nice Day!

Mattman26 said...

The ABC story on this poll (which ABC co-sponsored) reported: “Forty-four percent of Americans approve of Trump’s overall job performance, up a slight 5 percentage points from April ...” Really? A five-point approval jump just as campaign season gets underway is “slight?” These guys are a joke.

Limited Perspective said...

The top rated comment in the WoPo thinks there is no hope for the country? By Golly, that gives me hope.

Yancey Ward said...

I firmly believe that if Trump broke into a car to rescue a baby on a hot Summer day, the headline would be "Trump Vandalizes Car, Gets Free Pass From Local Police."

Qwinn said...

" Really? A five-point approval jump just as campaign season gets underway is “slight?” These guys are a joke. "

No kidding. Five points is the difference between an electoral landslide for one side and an electoral landslide for the other side. Wow. I'd say they've gotten shameless, but I haven't noticed a hint of shame in these people in over two decades.

Kathryn51 said...

Dave Begley said...These coastal elites are going to be in for a big shock when Trump wins the Electoral College in a landslide over Kamala Harris.

I came by the following thru a conservative email group. I never heard of Caitlin Johnstone before – she bills herself as some sort of rogue journalist that hates the “oligarchy”. And the US in general and US military in particular. Anyway, she recently wrote an article with a big beware-Kamala-Harris-favorite-of-oligarchs. Most interesting take-away for me is;

”This wasn’t a fluke. Harris has been cultivating her debate skills for decades, first in the Howard University debate team where she is said to have “thrived”, then as a prosecutor, then as a politician, and she’ll be able to replicate the same calibre of performance in all subsequent debates. There’s more to getting elected than debate skills, but it matters, and in this area no one will be able to touch her”.

Kamala Harris is Oligarch’s Wet Dream

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Temujin said...

I'm still waiting for the lengthy list of lawlessness I've been told is obvious and growing daily for 3 years now.

Maybe it was the pallets of cash sent over via cargo planes in the dead of night to the leading supplier of worldwide terrorism in Iran, and denying it ever happened once the news of it leaked out. Then backtracking to say maybe it did happen, but I'm the boss.

Wait a minute, was that Trump?

stephen cooper said...

Marcus at 3:25 PM = Trump is easily one of the best 5 presidents ever.
He made some mistakes in his youth - you have to be a very flawed human being to live in the 1990s and be a Democrat, as he was, and his role as the evildoer in at least one eminent domain case will be an eternal stain on his memory, until the last day of this world ----
but he is a better and kinder man by far than anybody who has been President in the last few decades , and - if you want to recognize how much he is appreciated by people who appreciate the fact that he cares about the downtrodden Americans, about those who were left behind by the rich Obamas and Clintons and Bushes who will soon be indistinguishable in their arrogance and lack of concern for the real problems of real Americans (well the Bushes got a few things right, but they were rich rich rich and never ever understood how blessed they were to have the opportunity - which they wasted, as rich people often do - to care in the right way ) --- if you try and assess how much Trump is loved, as a matter of simple statistics, take away the people who hate him because they or someone they were affiliated with had abortions, which he considers an abomination in his mature wisdom, and take away, in your truthful count, the people who hate him because he is white - you would be surprised at how many anti-white racists there are in this country, probably ten or twenty million or so, poor souls --- and if you take away people who hate him because they get money from the government on false pretenses - and are worried that he thinks they are cheaters ----- if you take away those specific groups, his approval rating would be in the high 80s.

That being said, Kennedy and Johnson and Nixon and Ford and both Bushes were very brave people. And poor little Obama, for all his faults, was a loyal husband to a mean-spirited wife, and there is nothing I could respect more than that, being someone who considers such loyalty to one's God-goven spouse to be an essential part of being a good human.

Still, go back decades and decades and ask yourself, was the President in any given year, as you go back in time, a decent human being, and you have to say: for decades and decades, they have been lousy presidents in each and every case, and with the exception of Nixon not a single one of them was the sort of person any decent man would be able to let his daughter marry without feeling a deep wound in his soul, .... but , nevertheless, most of them were brave in their youth and they deserve to be respected for that.

Why do I bother? read on ....

Even if nobody reading this is going to think hey I wish one of those losers would have married a daughter of my mine!
even if nobody cares, I am going to say this ..... Not happening, my friends, God is good, and the capacities of loser people who want to make this world a worse place for their own selfish reasons are small , tiny capacities, compared to the powers of God.
Even if nobody reading this really cares one way or another, remember this:

God loves us all, and either you have lots of descendants and you want them all to be the men and women God wanted them to be, or you have no descendants at all but you still want people to be better than they would have been if nobody had prayed for them .... or maybe you are one of God's chosen and you know that God hears your prayers .......

For the record, my list of top five presidents - that is, the five who did the least harm doing a job that none of them were qualified for ----- are poor lonely Washington (a fellow Virginian and someone who often prayed to God with eloquence, and someone who despite his faults was admirable in most of his actions... but still, a lonely man who could have had more friends, and could have done much better) and Garfield and Coolidge and Reagan and Trump.

Earnest Prole said...

Imagine where his approval would be without the unforced errors.

Bay Area Guy said...

It's always good to see leftists, ninnies, college activists, college professors, NYT readers and WaPost readers agitated over something or other.

That generally means something good is happening.

Seeing Red said...

Still, roughly one-fifth of those who say he is not presidential say they approve of the job he is doing

RME

mezzrow said...

Did you watch the meter move on Election Night at the NYT site? You can watch it again, but only if you can get through the firewall next time, which I suspect Althouse will as a subscriber. If they don't have the Dem candidate down as a dead solid lock to win by the pollsters with the most credibility in the Acela bubble, I'll be the the most surprised person here.

What lawlessness? Be specific. Like the kiddie cages Obama installed? That kind of lawlessness? He's responsible for lots of new jobs magnetizing a bunch of those hopeful migrants to our border, but that's an extrajudicial lawlessness that is outside our polity. He could remove the cages, but then the pre-border abuse would just continue, which would be his fault too then, wouldn't it?

Michael K said...

The Democrats' only hope is vote fraud and they ran two trials in 2018. Orange County CA and Phoenix AZ.

Both worked. All GOP Congress persons in OPC were defeated by "late votes" which resembles the vote fraud in Lyndon Johnson 's Texas where the candidates kept a reserve of fraudulent votes until they knew how many they needed.

Look up Ballot Box 13 in San Antonio, TX.

Martha McSally ran a weak campaign but the OC reps had all won on Election Day. Then the harvested votes trickled in over the next two weeks.

It is their only hope and they have a trial run completed

doctrev said...

Kamala Harris, amazing debater? Please say you're joking. She's running away frantically from her own "woke moment" against Joe Biden, because she committed to forced busing. A policy so unpopular that it has ended any chance of her becoming President. This was her planned outrage moment, but she's so incompetent she can't even stand by it for a month after executing it. Another victory like that, and she'll be lucky to stay a Senator. And that's before Joe Biden politically nukes her in retaliation for costing him the nomination!

I must admit though, polls are white noise. Trusting oligarch media, which is as mendacious as it is incompetent, is what has led the Democrats to this point: facing multiple high-level indictments and pitifully poor presidential prospects. It would be nice if Althouse stopped reading the CIA's broadsheet, but one step at a time.

Michael K said...

OC not OPC

Nobody said...

“Imagine where his approval would be without the unforced errors”

Imagine if he had Obama’s completely uncritical press coverage. Never mind the cheerleading they did for Obama.

Nobody said...

“I must admit though, polls are white noise.”

There is some red noise going on too. Sure, the economy could crash for some reason, but if it doesn’t, well anybody who ever owned a business can relate to the pain in the ass employee that you would love to fire. except that they are the most productive one you’ve got.

TWWren said...

"Maybe there is no hope for this country." The really sad thing is the commenter and many like him/her go to bed each night praying for that result and awake every morning in a perpetual funk.

Two-eyed Jack said...

Hear polls should be labeled as predictive of who will win the popular vote, not the election.

Nobody said...

It’s one thing to debate other Democrats, all of whom accept your ridiculous positions on immigration, crime, health care, the economy, energy extraction, China trade, etc, etc, etc, as reasonable.

Wait until she runs up against a person who points out the extremely unpopular positions of the left wing of the Democratic Party.

How much should gas cost, Kamala?
Should we accept dumped steel from China laundered through Canada and Mexico?
Should we have any border security at all Kamala?
Should we repeal the Trump tax bill and give a tax cut to rich Californians?
Should we end fracking, which has kept the US at the lead of western countries in reducing CO2 emissions Kamala?

There are so many ways to smack her around.

chuck said...

No hope for the country? Sounds like many WaPoo readers will commit suicide or move to Canada if Trump wins the election. I'm hopeful.

Beasts of England said...

'Among registered voters, 47 percent say they approve of Trump while 50 percent disapprove.'

Recent history has shown that you can safely add five points to the upside of these lefty polls. Polling at that level - in spite of negative press running at ninety percent - is a significant achievement, and bodes very well for his reelection.

Seeing Red said...

Imagine where his approval would be without the unforced errors.

Imagine if he didn’t have a hostile MSM.

All presidents have errors.

Seeing Red said...

The “lawlessness” comment is hilarious considering illegal aliens break the law and they’re celebrated. And given “free” stuff.

Nobody said...

They can move to Canada, but it’s not looking too rosy for Dreamy McDreamboat Trudeau, Castro’s bastard son, either.

Seeing Red said...

Don’t forget the talking head and his bump of 5% comment from a few years ago.

traditionalguy said...

Trump is a perfect 10 teacher guilty of speaking the truth in public. That is not seen as a fair fight. The CIA/Soros crafted Narrative is unable to withstand an educated people that can think for themselves. Thus Trump destroys 30+ years of brilliant nazi Psyops that cost the Shadow government billions and billions of dollars. He is as bad as Nigel Fararge destroying 20 years of the German control of Europe by speaking the truth in public.

But guess who loves Trump fiercely? It is all of the captive people of the world. Which included the American Deplorables until Professor Trump cranked up the Truth Machine.

Sebastian said...

"his lying and losing and lawlessness"

Huh?

On the essentials, Trump spoke the truth -- the collusion hoax was a coup attempt.

Losing? What did he lose? In court, sure -- against lawless prog judges.

Lawlessness? You mean, like, O's minions running spy-ops against Trump?

Can't the left get some talking points together that actually make sense?

Seeing Red said...

Should we accept dumped steel from China laundered through Canada and Mexico?

I was reading about Vietnam Nam. China dumped thru them, too.

Jersey Fled said...

At this time in the cycle these polls are designed to drive public opinion, not measure it. Don't waste your time giving them even a shred of credibility.

wildswan said...

I've asked a reputable pollster if the group changed their methods after 2016 in order to capture the silent Trump voters and he said no, it wasn't a problem. And the citizenship question may not make the census and, in any case, wasn't there in the past. So we just don't know how many illegals will be vote harvested in 2020 as compared to the past or how many Trump voters there are. The Dem plan must be to cheat because they won't win on the platform of raising taxes and sending jobs to Mexico and China.

zefal said...

I love the smell of apocalyptic leftist despair in the morning! At least that's my perception.

Qwinn said...

Conservatives aren't just going to be voting against the Democrat (though they will, and the Dems have gotten so absurd that that would be enough to make most of them crawl over broken glass to do so), they'll also be voting *for* Trump, with much greater enthusiasm than they did in 2016. That enthusiasm will bring in several percent more votes, because there's a significant block of people who can't bring themselves to just vote against someone, they need to feel they're voting for someone too.

Democrats, however, will mainly only be voting against Trump, but I don't see any chance that any of the current flock of clowns will actually engender much enthusiasm for voting *for* them. Any one of the clowns might have 15%, at best, of the Left base enthusiastically vote for them, but the other 85% will be holding their nose.

The Left's only chance will be massive voter fraud, and as Michael K correctly pointed out, they know it, and they'll be going all in. I sincerely hope Trump is prepared.

Gunner said...

A WaPo liberal commenter calling someone else a loser is like Kamala Harris accusing someone else of sleeping their way to success.

whitney said...

What a delusional comment. They somehow see the rest of the politicians as Paragons of virtue? Washington is a cesspool. Trump is a big mass of character flaws but somebody virtuous would get eaten alive by those Vipers. Not that they haven't tried

traditionalguy said...
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stephen cooper said...

traditionalguy - well I do not love him fiercely but he is doing a better job than I would .....

poor guy, he knows what he is up against, I have spent my lifetime avoiding the sort of people who are enemies of Trump, I will give him this, he knows that the people who despise him are not good people ... for whatever reason, he has not avoided them ....that is so sad ..... but he knows what he is up against, so there is that.

that being said I would never in a million years go on the despicable Howard Stern show, like Trump did .....
just saying.
When I think of people who hate Trump I think - well, maybe they have a point, he joked around with Harold Stern, who does not even claim to be a decent human being (although God love him for his efforts to help animals who have been abandoned by bad people)

Success in this world is important but there are values that should not be compromised.

Well America is a big country and our successes and failures have more to do with what many people do , brave or not, than what one person does.

It has always been thus and it will always be thus.

The Godfather said...

It amazes me that so many people approve of Trump's performance in office, when he hasn't banned all immigration by Muslims and Hispanics, which is what he was elected for, right? He hasn't repealed ALL federal regulations. There are still places in this country where you can't frack to your heart's content. Sure, his two Supreme Court nominees have been a lot batter than Hillary's would have been, but you know they sometimes vote with the liberals, don't you?

The thing about polls like this is that conservatives and other folks "on the right" don't approve enthusiastically ANYTHING that ANY President does.

Thank God.

stephen cooper said...

whitney

there are virtuous people in this world.

at some point, they triumph.

you or me might not live long enough to see it, but ....

evildoers always fail

it almost makes you feel sorry for them

h said...

The WaPo deserves opprobrium for its biased reporting. But WaPo can't be responsible for the extremism of WaPo commenters. My concern for the country is that those commenters (and there are many of them) will have a serious breakdown (emotional/mental) if Trump wins re-election. Those commenters do exist in a bubble in which "everyone" agrees with them, and in which it is simply unimaginable that Trump could win reelection. Nevertheless, it is amusing to imagine the WaPo headlines on the first Wednesday in November: "Trump declared victor despite widespread voter fraud," "Trump in apparent landslide but falls short in job approval," "Trump victory causes gasps of dismay among foreign leaders." Feel free to add your own candidate headlines.

Gunner said...

When President Trump stops doing dumb pointless stuff like insulting John McCains corpse, his ratings go up. I wish he would continue like that. Make fun of the dweebs who deserve it like the pro-war, fake Republican Trump haters.

MikeR said...

As usual: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
Best not to get distracted by this poll or that one going up or down. One can see a little movement, but not much.

Known Unknown said...

Ha ha ha. Trump's not even LBJ-level crude.

readering said...

I miss Obama.

Known Unknown said...

"dumb pointless stuff like insulting John McCains corpse"

Not pointless. The media fellate McCain's corpse. Trump just reminds us that McCain was quite the shitweasel.

Beasts of England said...

'Washington is a cesspool.'

Indeed. There's probably no one cleaner than Trump in the realm of kickbacks and bribes. And, re: sexual mores, he's not even close to being an outlier amongst that bunch of deviants, I'm certain...

Freder Frederson said...

The embarrassment of 3% GDP growth?

Actually, Trump promised "4, 5, or 6%" growth. And implied 7% was achievable. What an asshole! Talk about raising the chocolate ration. Now 3% is fantastic!

YoungHegelian said...

Those commenters do exist in a bubble in which "everyone" agrees with them, and in which it is simply unimaginable that Trump could win reelection

I was among such a group for my 4th of July dinner at friends in DC. Anti-Trump comments at every turn. Visceral antipathy based on what other than group think, I'm not sure, but it was on prominent display.

To give but one example of myth over reality, "Trump hates the press." Well, yes, he does, but, in truth all presidents have. Obama hated them, and rarely, if ever spoke to them in any but the most scripted of moments. Trump just won't shut up. The other day he had an unscripted exchange with the press for over an hour! You can complain that "The man just has no filters when he speaks", but you can't say he doesn't speak, because he speaks a lot, to both friend & foe.

Chuck said...

The real embarrassment is the Washington Post. And the New York Times. And the so-far-left-they-fell-off-the-cliff Socialist Democrat mob.

Howard said...

Thanks to the Lord. Now we can cancel the War on Civil Engineering you people keep hairpieing about

Beasts of England said...

'Actually, Trump promised "4, 5, or 6%" growth. And implied 7% was achievable.'

We're heading in that direction now, Freder. What's your point?

Nobody said...

3% is fantastic, Why do you look to Trump to define your reality anyway?

Known Unknown said...

"Actually, Trump promised "4, 5, or 6%" growth. And implied 7% was achievable. What an asshole! Talk about raising the chocolate ration. Now 3% is fantastic!"

Now do Obama.

narciso said...

Did I miss the promised reign of terror, I was promised, one might argue that reporter with diligent research skills, did get a spell in prison, Books like 'Fear' promise it, but where is the stark terror they suggest.

rehajm said...

Aided by a strong economy? As if Trump is being pulled along instead of causation from good Trump policies. They’ll never learn...

Henry said...

The quoted paragraph is like bad stock market reporting -- some short-term trend seems newsworthy and business reporters backfill in causes.

52% disapprove, 43% approve is pretty much the Trump presidency baseline. He had a bad spring (I don't even remember why now), and has rebounded to the 52% disapprove, 43% approve he held for most of last year.

tcrosse said...

Trump, the short-fingered vulgarian, usurped the crown from its rightful heir, thus forfeiting the mandate of heaven and upsetting the balance of the universe. This is what they cannot forgive.

Michael said...

Maybe there's no hope for people who read the Washington Post - and take it seriously.

h said...

Thanks for the comment by Young Hegelian: I don't think there is anything to be gained by arguing with OMBs. You are probably inculcated by the scientific method -- that evidence inconsistent with a theory will be accepted as evidence that the theory is wrong. But the OMB philosophy is: Orange Man is Bad. If you have evidence that confirms that premise, then the evidence is correct; if you have evidence that is inconsistent with that premise then there is something wrong with the evidence. But there is no way that evidence can prove that Orange Man is not Bad. THat is the logical basis of the people you are considering engaging with on the question of Trump.

Michael K said...

What an asshole! Talk about raising the chocolate ration. Now 3% is fantastic!

Now we have Economist Freder.

And you wonder why people make fun of you.

narciso said...

It's science, like the judgement of the skydragon,

a minor example, dc comics in it's attempt to destroy what remains of their brand, has a lois lane stand alone comic, repeating the same prog narrative from last fall,

Seeing Red said...

Actually, Trump promised "4, 5, or 6%" growth. And implied 7% was achievable. What an asshole! Talk about raising the chocolate ration. Now 3% is fantastic!"


Get rid of Obamacare and you’ll see that.

Seeing Red said...

It’s better than “the new normal.”

NOT TIRED OF WINNING YET!

Seeing Red said...

And the citizenship question may not make the census and, in any case, wasn't there in the past.

I think it was until 2000.

narciso said...

But it is in the yearly anerican community survey.

Seeing Red said...

Via Insty:

TRADE: Trump says ‘favored-nations clause’ on drug prices is on its way. “President Donald Trump on Friday said his administration intends to announce a plan to decrease prescription drug costs based on the lowest price other countries pay. . . . The announcement comes less than two weeks after Trump signed an executive order to improve the transparency of healthcare costs. The order requires hospitals and insurance companies to tell patients their rates for medical services and what patients will be expected to pay out of pocket before undergoing treatment. Since his inauguration, Trump has made reducing prescription drug costs a priority of his administration.

Seeing Red said...

Warming up to 4%.

rcocean said...

I think Republicans shouldn't get overconfident. Even if the D's nominate some clown like Harris or Buttigig, this will be a hard-fought campaign that we will be lucky to win. Personally, I think Trump re-election chances are no more than 50-50 - even if we have continuing prosperity.

We will have to fight like the devil to get get enough independents in the right states to vote Trump. 45% will vote D - no matter what. The D's have the West Coast, Hawaii and the Northeast locked up. They would vote for Joe Stalin's Corpse if nominated. Minnesota is full of morons and VA is too. The margin for error is small and Trump have to thread the needle.

rcocean said...

And the MSM Will continue to be an Arm of the DNC. Look at Trump's drug prices announcement. I follow politics closely and I barely heard about it. The chances that Joe Six-pack in Michigan knows about it are zero.

narciso said...

It's not something we need to know, just whatever garbage that any two bit harridan coughs up.

Mark said...

Anti-Trump comments at every turn.

But they are not just comments, they are comments inviting -- expecting -- agreement.

Birkel said...

Freder Frederson officially comes out against 3% GDP growth.

The Left: anti-Independence Day and anti-economic expansion.
Bless their shriveled Collectivist hearts.

Unknown said...

What lawlessness?

n.n said...

Trump signed an executive order to improve the transparency of healthcare costs

One of several initiatives to mitigate progressive prices. He's on the right track to diagnosing and treating Obamacare.

Gk1 said...

Pretty impressive since Trump has withstood 92% negative coverage 24/7 since he took office. Imagine if the press covered him like their boyfriend Obama? I guess we have to see what happens as Poppy Bush was "unbeatable" a year out from an election year.

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Sam L. said...

Top-rated commenter is just SOOOOOOO bummed about it.

Drago said...

"Actually, Trump promised "4, 5, or 6%" growth. And implied 7% was achievable. What an asshole! Talk about raising the chocolate ration. Now 3% is fantastic!"

You can thank the "severely "conservative" John McCain (obambicare) and Fed Chairman Powell (hey, lets just keep raising rates without any real inflation indicators) after handing obambi 0% rates for the entirety of obambis terms.

Ray - SoCal said...

Strange times.

Looks like China will eat the 25% tariffs and hopes Trump is not re-elected. If China gives in, it will help Trumps re-election.

The new NAFTA will probably be voted on after the election. This will hurt Canada’s economy, but Trudeau seems to believe defeating Trump is more important.

Mexico is reducing illegal immigration, and may sign a 3rd country agreement on asylum.

Companies are moving production out of China, due to the us tariff issue. Laundering items thru vietnam may work for a few containers, but if you get caught, your us import business is dead (per an importer I spoke with).

Ebola is out of control, and you have African immigrants arriving at the Southern Border.

Barr seems to be focused on cleaning up the political stuff that the Steel Dossier is a prime example on. This may help Trump a lot, or more CYA by the deepstate.

The Epstein prosecution may blow up, or drag on forever in court. Epstein has lots of money to make it drag on. Nancy Pelosi’s daughter tweeted it may effect a lot of high faves. I’m betting something like Weinstein.

Internet giants seem to be over reaching themselves on anti Trump activities, and Trump does punch back.

Iran and Venezuela - more ticking time bombs. Can they outlast Trump?

Msm is laying off lots, 12,000, and rating are way down at cnn.

Trump has actually called out the chamber of commerce, which is major.

NRA is in disarray.

Brexit May happen before the 2020 election.

traditionalguy said...

Add to the strange times list a United States Treasury owned and operated dollar backed by gold that replaces the bankrupt FED ponzi scheme which is then audited and its assets declared forfeited to the USA.

Nichevo said...

traditionalguy said...
Add to the strange times list a United States Treasury owned and operated dollar backed by gold

No, TG, because that's not going to happen. Can't you at any time stop talking out yo' neck?

David in Cal said...

FWIW most people around me are Democrats. However, I've been struck by how overtly anti-Trump the are recently. IMHO it bodes ill for his re-election.

Paul said...

"After all he has done, the embarrassment he has brought to the US, his lying and losing and lawlessness, nevertheless his approval numbers are going up.... Maybe there is no hope for this country."

His approval numbers are going up cause he as increased the number of jobs, defused North Korea, kicked Iran to the curb, and made good on his promises. Any lawlessness is cause by the Democrats and their DOJ stooges.

Maybe instead there is now hope for this country.

Gahrie said...

Add to the strange times list a United States Treasury owned and operated dollar backed by gold

There's not enough gold bullion to back the United States dollar, which was the reason we left the gold standard in the first place.

GRW3 said...

I’ve wondered about this “lying” charge for a while. Most politicians seem to lie their as off in the form of promises they have no intention of keeping (but are prepared with all the structural reasons it could not be done). I’ve come to realize that by lie they mean he denies their vision of how things are supposed to be. They are savages making sacrifices to the setting sun.

readering said...

By lie they mean he says things that are obviously false, like it's fake news that the damages citizenship question is being left off the Census form. Commerce and DOJ may have decided without consulting WH (although I don't believe that) but press was reporting what the responsible government departments announced. He does stuff like this all day every day.

Fen said...

Personally, I think Trump re-election chances are no more than 50-50 - even if we have continuing prosperity.

I agree. We can't forget that for 2016, most the Democrats had left the stadium to beat traffic before the start of the 4th quarter. They won't do that again in 2020.

And they DO NOT CARE how good Trump has been for the economy or peace. All they care about is power, and as someone said upthread: Trump is guilty of dispelling their illusionary alternate realities (see: Inga, Chuck). The Left will never forgive him for that, same as they never forgave Reagan for winning the Cold War.

Michael McNeil said...

There's not enough gold bullion to back the United States dollar….

There is on 16 Psyche!

rehajm said...

Lefties lie every day on major issues. This green new deal plank they’re all touting they wouldn’t even vote to bring it to the floor. They wouldn’t take up Trump and the Republicans on their offer to discuss legal immigration reform including amnesty. They are lying about what is important to them.

JAORE said...

They would vote for Joe Stalin's Corpse if nominated.

And they would allow Joseph Stalin's corpse to vote for anyone else nominated.

Qwinn said...

So, just to confirm: readering is upset that Trump is upset that illegal immigrants will effectively be able to falsely misrepresent themselves as full citizens in the census, and she just can't abide the flagrant dishonesty of *his* response to that?

I guess you're right. If only he would take the honest approach and pretend that citizenship hasn't been a formal census question throughout the nation's history and pretend that it is now all of a sudden unconstitutional. If only we could learn true honest discourse like all of our lefty friends.

Earnest Prole said...

Imagine if he didn’t have a hostile MSM.

Imagine if there were no gravity.

JaimeRoberto said...

Lawless. You keep using that word.

Gospace said...

Fen said...
...Trump is guilty of dispelling their illusionary alternate realities (see: Inga, Chuck). The Left will never forgive him for that, same as they never forgave Reagan for winning the Cold War.


Or Nixon for defeating Helen Gahagan Douglas. That was his unforgivable sin. Watergate was their way of getting him.

Qwinn said...

Gospace.- not at all. Nixon's sin was for going after Alger Hiss, Soviet mole. Without Hiss whispering in FDR's ear at Yalta, no Soviet domination of half the world after WW2.

Kevin said...

Actually, Trump promised "4, 5, or 6%" growth.

Why do you think the House is sitting on his trade deal?

Swede said...

He won his first term despite the full-court press of the MSM.

He has real achievements now as president. He'll win his second term despite the full-court press of the MSM.

Can'tFindADecentAlias said...

C'mon now. If the polling were honest they would break down the disapproval numbers into "He went too far" and "He didn't go far enough". There's a reason they don't do that.