March 11, 2019

"[Hillary Clinton's] attempt to analogize the Southern struggle for voting rights with her fate in Wisconsin subordinates some uncomfortable, and likely more relevant, truths — in the service of a narrative offered by an element of the Democratic Party..."

"... that would prefer to see cheating and illegality, rather than politics and policy, as the causes of its collapse. That narrative glosses over a remarkable, decadeslong decline in black economic conditions and political disillusionment outside the Southern, black Democratic firewall. Wisconsin embodies these trends perhaps more acutely than anywhere else in the country.... Today... Milwaukee’s joblessness rate among black men in their prime working years is higher than any major city’s in the country. The median black household income in the state is about half that of whites, the third-highest disparity in the country. Jobs were essentially replaced with prisons, giving Wisconsin the highest black male incarceration rate in the U.S.... In the face of extreme wealth and income disparities between Wisconsin’s black and white residents, state Democrats have taken the black vote for granted....  The ground was fertile for Clinton to dig in and excite black Milwaukee voters once inspired by Obama’s messages of hope and change...."

From "Hillary Clinton Is Still Deeply Confused About What Happened in Wisconsin. Here’s Why That Matters" (The Intercept).

28 comments:

Mattman26 said...

Confused? She’s insane. And a lying sack of shit.

mccullough said...

Wisconsin’s population is 6% black (compared to 12% nationally). There are better opportunities for them elsewhere.

Nothing Obama or Hillary can do for them.

mccullough said...

DC has the highest black unemployment rate in the country.

rcocean said...

Blacks in Wisconsin voted overwhelmingly for Hillary. Why didn't more turn out? Easy answer. Hillary didn't think they were needed. Wisconsin was "in the bag".

So, Trump eked out a surprising victory. Does anyone think it will happen again?

BarrySanders20 said...

I liked Hillary better when she was lost in the woods.

chuck said...

"I don't feel no ways tired" didn't do the trick?

Gahrie said...

Get back to me when the Democrats get something significantly lower than 80% of the Black vote. The best the Republicans can hope for is that large numbers of Black voters will simply stay home. Which is why the Democrats spend so much time calling Republicans racists.

The sad truth is, both political parties largely ignore the Black community and it's wants and needs. The Republicans ignore Black issues because they know that no matter what, over 80% of the Black vote will go to Democrats. The Democrats ignore Black issues because they know that no matter what, 80% of the Black vote will go to Democrats. If a Republican ever got anything approaching 50% of the Black vote, people would start to actually give a shit about inner city violence, shitty schools and the dysfunctional thug life culture.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Hillary - “This is the day the Lord has made,” she began. “Let us rejoice and be glad in it. And then let’s get to work.”

Oh she's so fucking vile.

Retail Lawyer said...

Maybe there's a causal connection between most socialist and highest unemployment rate.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Blacks have eyes and ears.

They can all see the white garbage Clinton money-whoreing and know it. She demands respect and doesn't even feel the need to show up and take it.

Leland said...

Does anyone think it will happen again?

No, but then I didn't think Pennsylvania would go for Trump either. It is always possible, especially with the passage of prison reform, that the black population that stayed home last time comes out and votes for Trump. Trump has certainly done more than Obama to help them obtain jobs.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Modern Voter suppression is a myth and a lie. Did blacks stay home for Obama because they were suppressed?

Big Mike said...

The only votes that Republicans seek to suppress are the ones that are illegal -- votes cast by people who are not citizens and votes cast by people who are fictional or deceased. If the Democrats are convinced that there are all sorts of untapped voters who merely lack the voter ID, then why not help them get a voter ID? Or does that look too much like work? Republicans suspect, and for good reason, that Democrats don't do so because it would expose their reliance on illegal votes to win.

Author Malaika Jabali asserts that "a single suppressed vote is one too many," but the response is that it certainly is not "one too many" if the price of allowing that vote is scores, perhaps hundreds, of ballots cast illegally by noncitizens and/or names taken from tombstones.

Beyond that Ms. Jabali could have used an editor. It's Forty-two, not Fourty-two. Clinton's 40 campaign offices is not "just over half of Barack Obama’s total of 69 offices." The unemployment study she references uses 2010 data and is clearly labeled a "Working Paper."

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

A University of Wisconsin-Madison study estimates that black nonvoters in Wisconsin were more affected by the voter ID law in comparison to whites, but it also shows that lack of interest in the candidates was a much more frequent reason why nonvoters stayed home. Fourty-two percent of respondents, across race, said they were unhappy with the choice of candidates or issues or that they simply were not interested. Responses indicating possible voter suppression — long lines, not being able to get an absentee ballot, not having an adequate ID, or being told at a polling place that their ID was inadequate — made up a combined 5 percent of the responses.

A part of 5% reported "possible voter suppression."
of those - who is Bullshitting?

Big Mike said...

The sad truth is, both political parties largely ignore the Black community and it's wants and needs. The Republicans ignore Black issues because they know that no matter what, over 80% of the Black vote will go to Democrats

@Gahrie, black ministers told Donald Trump that the predominant black issue is jobs. And Trump has given them that. Ms. Jabali writes about the loss of union manufacturing jobs in Milwaukee. Well, which is more likely to bring manufacturing jobs back to Milwaukee? The policies of Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, or the polices of Donald Trump?

So we will see what we will see come November 2020.

Fen said...

"The sad truth is, both political parties largely ignore the Black community and it's wants and needs."

The GOP isn't trying hard enough. There is NO excuse for leaving 90% behind with the Democrat Party, especially now that "progressives" are abandoning them for a new minority of immigrants they intend to enslave tbrough dependency to the State.

Establishment Republicans like Mitt Romney would never blackball an African-American from joining their exclusive country club, but they would never sponsor one for membership either.

Mittens: Well shucks, my club stubbornly remains 90% white. Oh well...


WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

"The voter ID law realistically had at least some effect in Wisconsin, and a single suppressed vote is one too many. And with an election in the state decided by just under 23,000 votes, any single factor was arguably decisive. But Clinton has used this possibility — this likelihood, even — to make a conclusive assertion about the general election itself. Priorities USA, the Super PAC that backed her campaign, created the oft-cited study on the impact of the state law. Political scientists have noted that the study, which is not peer-reviewed, is riddled with methodological flaws. Among them, it estimates that Clinton lost 200,000 votes, based merely on a calculation of increased turnout in states with non-strict voter ID laws. The study does not survey Wisconsin nonvoters. It does not control for factors that could have contributed to lower turnout. It simply extrapolates a conclusion about the impact of a voter ID requirement based on voter turnout averages in other states.

The whole "voter suppression BS is BS."

Rosalyn C. said...

This is what is obvious to me: The Democrats are always talking about the plight of black and how Democrats are going to fight against systemic racism, but nothing really changes in the inner cities. Trump is being called a racist repeatedly by all the leading Democrats, noticeably with no actual evidence, belying the close relationships Trump has and has had with high profile blacks and the awards given to Trump by black organizations. Trump hammers back continually that black unemployment is at record lows and that he intends to keep bringing back high paying manufacturing jobs. He is pushing to create jobs which pay well but do not require expensive college degrees, etc. Who are the blacks going to believe will be more helpful to improve their lives? Trump or Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris? I don't think blacks find socialism all that appealing. Many blacks personally deal with government bureaucracy, public housing, welfare, etc. They know how invalidating and humiliating and corrupt that bureaucracy can be. I hope that blacks will choose opportunity. But that remains to be seen. I've seen a lot of stupidity on the left too. There's also a lot of anti-Semitism in the black community which makes Bernie Sanders's candidacy kind of funny for me personally. Will his history of black activism hold up? After all, he did end up in white Vermont.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Jesse Watters' World had him "man on the street" in Harlem asking black by-passers if they knew where to get state ID, had ID, had cell phones, knew how to register to vote etc. They looked at him as if he was from outer space as they answered in the affirmative. Great theater. Another Liberal lie.

Churchy LaFemme: said...

I think Trump does care. On problem is that a policy that might help runs into his government. Say he wants to do some sort of RICO crackdown in Chicago to hit the gangs and bring down the murder rate. Who's he going to trust to do it? The FBI?

For now it's just going to have to be jobs.

William said...

There is NOTHING any white person can do to attract black voters. Even though black unemployment is at record lows—due directly to Trump’s policies—the typical black voter does not have enough perspective to give Trump the credit. Moreover, 100% of the messaage from the media says that Trump is a racist, even though he has done more to help black people than Øbama did in EIGHT years. The Dems could run a cockroach, and a plurality of blacks would vote for him/her.

Perception is everything. And that’s the way it is.

JaimeRoberto said...

When I was in sales I was taught that you have to ask for the business. Trump did that. At least he did more than Hillary and certainly more than most GOP candidates.

Michael K said...

Even though black unemployment is at record lows—due directly to Trump’s policies—the typical black voter does not have enough perspective to give Trump the credit.

Read the thread on Milwaukee school board hearings,. Much is explained.

Leigh said...

Apparently Milwaukee isn't the only city in Wisconsin with such discouraging stats.

https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2016/08/05/wisconsin-named-worst-state-for-black-americans.html

Yancey Ward said...

Jeez, white Badgers like Meade and Althouse need to get out there start committing some damned crimes already!

Mike Sylwester said...

Keep in mind that some Russians bought Facebook ads showing Hillary arm-wrestling with Jesus.

bflat879 said...

Black voters have a serious problem with Democrats and I doubt they realize it. Democrats look at black voters as a checkmark. Say, "Vote for me because Republicans are racist." gets them 80% of the black vote, why bother actually accomplishing something to help them. Problem #2, the Democrats want to do the same with the Hispanic vote. The Hispanic vote will go up, not because of birth rate, but because of our open border to the South. They can get new voters daily and not have to pander to them. Sorry, that's the reality and, if Republicans figure out a way to sell that one, Democrats are in trouble.

AllenS said...

William said...
... the typical black voter does not have enough perspective to give Trump the credit

There it is.