"Hey, that's unacceptable": Rep. Ocasio-Cortez responds to audience member who called fmr. Rep. Inglis a "moron" during #AOCAllIn pic.twitter.com/tcIQC1OtAa— MSNBC (@MSNBC) March 30, 2019
ADDED: AOC did not merely scold one audience member into silence. She characterized herself as doing this as a rule and deserving, because of this, to be regarded as distinctly different from Trump. Now, my tag is "civility bullshit," and that represents my belief that calls for civility are always bullshit. That is, I think they're made only when it serves the politician's interest. So keep an eye on AOC, and when she condones incivility, remember this post. I don't think she'll want to maintain this claimed difference between her and Trump. So remember to point it out when she doesn't.
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Leftists make the rules.
Obey.
I can disagree on that thing we can’t disagree on, but I was surprised to hear them still talking about the Tea Party movement. They have no idea what it was (is), but they’re right that it has been more effective than it’s been given credit for.
This is a link you simply must see.
Benny
@bennyjohnson
WOW -
GUYS after watching this, my opinion of AOC has really changed.
I feel like I finally understand her.
She is so honest here - makes a lot of sense. I know I have been critical of her in the past.
Please listen to her words - and think about them.
Trump is King and AOC is Queen of the AOB.
I actually watched this. It was fascinating. Here was a crazy woman and the audience was wildly cheering her. Actually, very frightening. The most frightening thing is that she's a college graduate but is dumb as a rock and arrogant as hell.
A perfect example of two movies on one screen. She really believes that we only have 12 years left to act or our children are doomed.
And somehow she tied the CAGW scam into race and the Bronx.
And, of course, Chris Hayes is totally insane but he thinks he is so, so smart.
Keep talking AOC. You are Trump's best campaign advertisement.
Trump is King and AOC is Queen of the AOB.
MSLSD is DNC TV.
AOC called out someone who called someone she agrees with a "moron".
When she does that to someone who calls Trump a moron then she's different than Trump.
AOC seems to have problems with basic syllogisms.
the difference between her and Trump, is that she won't tolerate insulting the left? Got it!
She called President Trump a Racist so she is just as guilty as he is of calling people who don't agree with her names. She told students at Boston University that Judge Kavenaugh committed perjury. She is a hypocrite.
Wiki says that this guy was a RINO before 2010, when he lost his primary to a Republican.
So, I shouldn't have said; AOC is different from Trump because she won't tolerate insults to the left
I SHOULD have said; AOC is different from Trump because she won't tolerate insults to the RINOs
She's got a point. Trump knows a moron when he sees one. She can't, even when shes staring at one in the mirror.
A comedian in the 80s said he did Polish jokes and the Poles complained; and he did Italian jokes and the Italians complained; so he started doing moron jokes and now the morons are complaining.
Moron is a #Label with negative associations. Elaborate: bad judgment.
What is she doing with her feet?
I hope Trump picks up the Chiquita Khrushchev nickname for AOC.
She wants to kill off a significant amount of the population through starvation and punish people who disagree with her using confiscatory taxation as a weapon to persecute.
But calling another Democrat a moron is like Trump. She will not tolerate the paroles badmouthing their masters.
They are terrible people.
Inglis is LLR defeated by the Tea Party, a believer in the sky dragon,
Oh, there are plenty of other differences.
So the Dems are using Trump's tactics as their template?
Makes sense.
"Harmony in a neighborhood is a woman's job.
[...it] is tact-based."
-rhhardin
Speaking of judgment, people aren't so green.
When did Rachael Maddow get a sex change operation?
The dude was making vague sense, I assumed that is why he was called a moron.
Fascinating to watch the adults pretend to take her seriously. Shades of Abbie Hoffman.
Deplorables hate her because she represents high quality strange you people can't have.
Idiot, imbecile, and moron: AOC the idiot is calling Trump a moron.
[Donkey-Chompers] lacked understanding of her actions in comparing [Donkey-Chompers] to [The Trump]. As a result of her lack, when [Donkey-Chompers] suggested that they are different, [Donkey-Chompers] acted on impulse and without the ability to recognize or understand the full impact of her actions.
Inglis does agree with much of cortez's agenda, so it isn't surprising that she would stick up for him, it's not about civility but common interests,
She's pretty and her mannerisms are likable. She doesn't inherit the mantle of Bella Abzug. I think Tlaib is the true heir of Abzug. It's not enough to be just wrong. You have to be obnoxious and ugly to expound Islamo-Marxist, eco-feminist thinking in the purest possible way.
high quality strange you people can't have.
I'll buy that. Strangest bartender I've seen.
Ralph L said...
"What is she doing with her feet?"
It's a body language tell. When people lie or are on tenuous rhetorical ground, except for actual sociopaths and seasoned politicians, they tend to fidget.
It's amazing (and amusing) that they enthusiastically support the defeat of their political opponents while claiming that voters replacing an elected official with whom they disagree is unacceptable.
So green virtue trumps cash for everyone. They're still afraid to say GND means the poor will freeze and starve without lots of help, but they'll get to it when they realize that's a double feature not a bug.
On my Facebook page I posted a video of Adolph Hitler's reaction to Robert "The FBI Whitewasher" Mueller's report.
Facebook removed my post because it violated Facebook's "community standards".
I put a follow-up post on my Facebook page, telling my Facebook friends to search the Internet for "report mueller hitler" to find and watch the removed video.
If she said, "attack ideas, not people," that might be civility bullshit, but it would be a difference between her and Trump. If she basically says, "I don't attack people personally, unlike Trump," then that is not a difference between her and Trump. It's not even civility bullshit. It's bullshit civility bullshit.
she compares 9/11 with hurricane maria, which inglis probably agrees with, said the tea party was based on zenophobia,
I've never heard her voice before. She sounds like a child.
No worries. World will end soon and this blah blah blah will be over.
Morons defending morons.
Hey, hey, hey, hey that’s unacceptable. And that’s the difference between me and Trump.
Inga, is that you?
The comments over there show you why so many people can be fooled day in and day out for years, and come out no smarter for it.
Chiquita Khrushchev is a sock puppet for a far left political PAC with a taste for fascist solutions. I predict she will be replaced in the next primary.
"High quality strange", but only at the bartending level. Even there she reportedly stole her colleagues' tips. I'm sure she felt justified in that she could spend them better. Now she's taking her ideas national.
"Deplorables hate her because she represents high quality strange you people can't have."
I've never considered an airhead bartender to be "high quality" anything.
No Dear, the difference between you and Trump is 50+ years of life experience and $5 billion.
I rather not take advice from a callow Pol who could not pay a $1,877.56 tax bill on a failed business for six years and was begging for money to rent a flat a few months ago.
Seriously, snark aside, we are allowing someone with poor personal money management skills to make fiduciary policy? It's sheer lunacy.
Howard said...When did Rachael Maddow get a sex change operation?
LOL!
She's absolutely right. That is the difference. Trump is smart and can recognize Idiots and publicly shame them. AOC is an idiot, and so has trouble recognizing other idiots.
Deplorables hate her because she represents high quality strange you people can't have.
Under the new moderation rules it takes great patience to pick a fight.
Howard, AOC is generous at giving people reasons to hate her. That she may or may not be rapidly aging strange is only one of the many reasons she is hated.
But it is, as most liberals are wont to argue, the only reason you want to argue because defending her other bullshit is...difficult.
And the Left doesn't have the debating chops to put a gloss on that shinola.
Blogger Howard said...
Deplorables hate her because she represents high quality strange you people can't have.
3/30/19, 10:57 AM
Like guys who look like a hitman in a porn movie?
"Trump knows a moron when he sees one."
How could he not? He sees one in the mirror every morning. Ba-ZING!
I kid, I kid. He's no genius, but he's not a moron. He just plays one to appeal to voters. As the Church of the Sub-Genius says, "Act like a dumbshit and they'll treat you like an equal."
Note that in the media no one ever calls any R a "rising star"
Sandy was designed to drive us crazy
Like the French in the Holy Grail movie
Keep talking AOC. You are Trump's best campaign advertisement.
The irony is she's better off if Trump wins the 2020 election. The best and the brightest of the DNC will have tried to take him down and failed. Leaving her with more political capital. To use to win Schumer's seat. He's old and white you know.
Here we come, walkin' down the street
We get the funniest looks, from ev'ry one we meet
Hey, hey, we're the Monkees
And people say we monkey around
But we're too busy singing
To put anybody down
- The Monkees
A little music to set the mood for our political conversation. Fat Albert works, too. Hey, Hey, Hey!
Her virtue overwhelms me. A pure barmaid.
A hoax Sister Soulja Moment? Sure sounds like a prepared line.
AOC: "America, I am going to take away your money and your liberty!"
America: "I hate you, AOC."
AOC: "Yeah, you hate me -- because I am an outspoken woman!"
"And that’s the difference between me and Trump."
"Trump calls other people morons. I AM a moron."
Politics more and more a visual medium.
Well played and not for the first time. My sister in law loves her. I'm completely unconvinced partly because I hate the identity politics stuff and the commie stuff but mostly because I really don't trust her.
If AOC didn't exist, Republicans would have to create her.
Keep talking, bint.
AOC is not humble enough to humble-brag.
Wait, we're saying this is some kind of political 'kill shot'?
Please, we and she have a long way to go folks.
You just won the lottery. Who do you ask for advice: Trump or AOC? Getting elected to government is in some ways a similar challenge. You suddenly have much larger responsibilities and power, so who should you listen to? AOC, if she had any intelligence, would know her limitations. She does not. Why was a college graduate only a bartender and not put in charge of managing the place?
Mark O said...Her virtue overwhelms me. A pure barmaid.
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Yep..you can "like totally" picture her pointing and yelling at a rowdy customer with those giant eyeballs aglare: "Out!!!"
These "morons" are all in on the CAGW war footing. First with AOC's equating it to the next world war..now the more moderate guy here invoking the revolutionary "whites of its eyes".
By the way, she also mentioned she got health insurance for the first time just now.
So..even with her restaurant/bar wages presumably putting her in reach of Obamacare subsidy, she disobeyed The One's mandatory submission?
But calling someone a racist is OK
What does any of this matter?
The Hale-Bopp Democrats/LLR's are convinced we are all dead in just 12 years.
Which, when you think about it, is the 148th Humanity Extinction Reprieve (based on dem/left/LLR predictions) over the last 60 years!!!
Yeah Us!!!
Cook: Trump no genius, but he's not a moron. He just plays one to appeal to voters. As the Church of the Sub-Genius says, "Act like a dumbshit and they'll treat you like an equal."
How do you account for the fact
1) Trump has outed Establishment RINO traitors in the GOP and
2) Every Democrat that has tried to tangle with him has been humiliated?
You guys played this same card with Reagan and he ate your lunch. How many times are you going to play this game expecting different results? Says more about your intelligence than his. Even a dog learns to respect a rolled-up newspaper.
Strike all that. I prefer Democrats remain arrogant in their ignorance.
Trump 2032!
I spent a fair amount of time watching various clips of her. If you take away the crazy parts, GND etc., there seem to be only two possibilities. Terribly undereducated, or not so bright. I'm going with AND. Our education system is in complete failure if this is what a financial degree looks like.
In Howard's defense, his definition of strange is his off hand.
(eaglebeak)
Not the only difference, sweetie.
AOC pounces.
Under the new moderation rules it takes great patience to pick a fight
Lol
she compares 9/11 with hurricane maria, which inglis probably agrees with, said the tea party was based on zenophobia,
What's that? A fear of very fast turtles?
https://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Judge-rejects-Trump-plan-for-road-in-Alaska-13727407.php
Typical MSNBC.
A town hall on the Green New Deal and not a single cow in the audience or on the panel.
Moron is a mild word here. The pretense of fake stopping of climate warming by ending energy use in industry and travel, plus ending the industry of beef production, would be National Suicide. Favoring suicidal acts is evil bullshit with a smile.
Robert Cook said...
"Trump knows a moron when he sees one."
How could he not? He sees one in the mirror every morning. Ba-ZING!
I kid, I kid. He's no genius, but he's not a moron. He just plays one to appeal to voters. As the Church of the Sub-Genius says, "Act like a dumbshit and they'll treat you like an equal."
It must pain you to know that every single Democrat running makes Trump look like a genius.
one hopes Papazian can replace her, before she does anything more foolish
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/03/the-man-who-defended-trump.php
it would be National Suicide. Favoring suicidal acts is evil bullshit with a smile.
An act of dodo, a choice, a wicked solution, to be clear. Not everyone is so green.
Who was it that called half the population of the United States "deplorable"?
They need to go full crazy. According to the woman on the left, it's what the people want.
Go for it.
As much as I disagree with Cookie, I am continually amazed at the many commenters who try to diss him as if he’s a standard partisan Democrat. Telling Cookie the Dem candidates are no geniuses will simple get a shrug.
There more than two teams.
And they've been sending payments to Abu hamza
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/taxman-kept-quiet-while-8bn-fraud-helped-fund-bin-laden-gmvj0b7gs
You don't really watch this crap, unless you are working on a Windows System, I hope, and it gets flashed up to you on the default screen.
@RealCandaceO This is a link Everyone Must See ASAP STAT STET!
Candace Owens Retweeted Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Let’s skip to the part where you pretend the #GreenNewDeal failed because of old racist white men...
Your “if you disagree with me you’re a bigot” routine is my favorite part of your indefensible stupidity.
--Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Retweeted Sen. John Barrasso
Because I encouraged them to vote present, along w/ others.
McConnell tried to rush the #GreenNewDeal straight to the floor without a hearing.
The real question we should be asking: Why does the Senate GOP refuse to hold any major hearings on climate change?--
It must pain you to know Trump will beat every single Democrat running
His 2016 win is a work of political genius
every single Democrat running makes Trump look like a genius
The Twilight Knight: All right, we'll call it a draw.
MSNBC & Rachel Maddow’s Deep Delusion
I didn't know she was such a shrimp till I saw her with normal size humans in that picture
I guess the closeups of the horse teeth make her look bigger.
She could run as VP for Beto on the Big Teeth platform
He is still finding out what he thinks
And she can assuredly tell him what to think
Like she tells us what to think
Perfect combo!
Old Europe vs new:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-culture-war-dividing-europe-11553872752?mod=mhp
Who...ooo...ooo watches...ches...ches...MSNBC...See...See...anymore...ore...ore...?
The most frightening thing is that she's a college graduate but is dumb as a rock and arrogant as hell.
@Dave Begley, most of them seem to be that way these days.
Terribly undereducated, or not so bright. I'm going with AND. Our education system is in complete failure if this is what a financial degree looks like.
@pacwest, good that people are noticing. Anybody besides me up for pulling the academic accreditation of Boston University? Keep in mind that she graduated cum laude.
Am I the only one in this thread wondering whether the business of Ocasio-Cortez shushing a heckler was a setup? Wouldn't have been hard to have planted someone in that audience with instructions to heckle Inglis and then shut up after Ocasio-Cortez speaks.
Well it's undestandable
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/30/mi6-not-interviewing-british-isil-suspects-legal-fears/
wondering whether the business of Ocasio-Cortez shushing a heckler was a setup
She's betting her career on the prophecy of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming. I would assume she is working the room to earn her greenbacks and other secular incentives.
Also, they're Pro-Choice. In principle, they have a selective and opportunistic orientation.
"wondering whether the business of Ocasio-Cortez shushing a heckler was a setup"
It kind of boxes her in badly. Does she have to shush ever uncivil audience person now?
@Althouse, if it was on the level, why did she call the Tea Party xenophobic white supremacists? My answer to your question is “no.”
hey hey hey hey makes me think Fat Albert or We're the Monkees.
Which makes me laugh because they're both unacceptable.
There are longer versions of this on youtube where she's saying this and that are the difference between her and Trump.
Ocasio-Cortez recently tweeted that not only did the Governor of Virginia have to go, but that anyone who expressed support for him should be personally scrutinized. That's not someone who's a fan of free speech. Inglis is a Republican, but specifically condemned Trump before the election. Along with his climate position, I guess that's enough to be allowed to speak after being invited to something where Ocasio-Cortez seems to be the co-host.
These sorts of discussions mean something different to hard leftists.
There was a discussion among early communists as to who was allowed to speak, but it was only about what sort of socialism you were allowed to espouse.
n.n. picked up the same dog whistle I did.
always monkeying around
“Hydraulically strained?”
“Thank you, Siri.”
Inglis is a Republican
that's up for debate. Yes, he Ran as a republican; and Yes, in a Heavily Republican district.
And Yes, the Very First Time that he had a Primary opponent, he was out on his Ass.
"Does she have to shush ever uncivil audience person now?"
-- McCain and Romney did; I somehow doubt she'll be held to the same standard.
just after the segment you show where she scolds the audience on incivility she says:
“We are committed to policies that make American lives better and we’re actually talking about something substantive, we’re not calling anyone names,” AOC said. She continued, “People say ‘Tea Party of the left’ and I find this phrase very interesting…because the grounding of the Tea Party was xenophobia, the underpinnings of white supremacy…”
xenophobia is not name calling?
white supremacy?
Trump says Socialism is unacceptable
Now, my tag is "civility bullshit," and that represents my belief that calls for civility are always bullshit. That is, I think they're made only when it serves the politician's interest.
How ridiculous.
First of all, they're not. And second, if things done (only) in one's interest are bullshit then everyone might as well kill themselves for the sake of this silly purity objective.
AOC is not anywhere near as crude a person as Trump and she has every right to ask that behavior of her audiences. You might as well object to politicians distinguishing themselves from each other. Or not taking PAC money.
Come on.
"Hey, hey, hey, hey that’s unacceptable. And that’s the difference between me and Trump."
If this is really the only difference between AOC and Trump, I could really get behind AOC.
But, alas, it's not...
How ridiculous.
You only say that because it really undercuts your game here.
First of all, they're not.
One. More. Time. ...the Tea Party was polite and civil. They even left parks cleaner than they found them after a protest. Your side slimed them as Teabaggers.
Now follow closely... Your side's treatment of those civil and polite people is what finally convinced us how stupid we were to play nice with Marxist thugs. THAT'S HOW YOU GOT TRUMP.
And you think he's bad, wait till you see what comes after.
"Civility" will be giving the Marxist scum a proper burial and not leaving them for the crows like they deserve. LOL, I still remember my first day on the internet, believing I was going to be debating issues with respectful adults. Sure, I'm an ass online how, guess who made me that way?
"AOC is not anywhere near as crude a person"
Her constituents are growing unhappy with her, she's not returning their calls over basic problems a congress critter is supposed to do for her people, ie she is not representing their interests.
Meanwhile, Trump can be crass, but he's the first President since Reagan who is actually representing the interests of the people who elected him.
What kind of leader would you prefer? Patton or Mittens?
And start the clock: This morning your are all sweetness and light in support of "civility". But by sunrise tomorrow you'll revert to calling people racist sexist homophobic Nazis or somesuch, proving Althouse's point. Tick tock tick tock. I dare you to make it past 24 hours...
Anybody besides me up for pulling the academic accreditation of Boston
Imagine having been one of her professors, watching the news with wifey...
Wifey: Is that the girl who graduated Boston? Sure is stupid. What did she study?
Professor: Economics
Wifey: (head swivel) But. You teach econ there.
Professor: ... (oh shit)
Wifey: So how did she make it out of your class?
Professor: ...
Wifey: Honey?
Professor: I'm on the couch tonight?
Wifey: And I'm filing for divorce in the morning.
The 22nd Amendment gaffe was ridiculous. She is ignorant of history.
How is Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez knowledge of economics any different from Paul Samuelson's who was first to get Nobel in economics?!
Or Paul Krugman's or any number of others on Wall Street.
Her tweet about Virginia's governor:
"Northam must resign, and those who try to help him stumble past this deserve scrutiny."
I don't know of any other significant American politician who's ever said, "If you defend this person, we're coming after you." She's flat out abnormal.
"Your side's treatment of those civil and polite people is what finally convinced us how stupid we were to play nice with Marxist thugs."
-- Part of the reason Trump won is because a good chunk of Romney and McCain voters like me acknowledged: Hey, we had two shots for a middle of the road, moderate deal maker who could balance Democrats. We tried a Boy Scout and an actual Maverick anti-Republican. What did we get? Called Nazis.
So, if the base and Republican voters decided: "Let's try a tough nosed politician who punches back twice as hard and gets in people faces, because that's what wins," I really have no leg to stand on when Mitt Bleeping Romney was said to have no empathy -- the guy who literally shut his business down for days to hunt down a missing girl and sat with a dying child to help the kid make his will for free -- he got called *the same things people are calling Trump.*
So excuse me if I'm not exactly willing to listen too much to the slurs ginned up by the random insult generators against Trump -- who I dislike as a human being and was not in any way a person I wanted to be President. I said frequently: "The best thing about Trump being President is Clinton won't be; the worst thing? That Trump will be," or things to that extent. He's surprised me, as frankly, I thought he'd sell out, but apparently, he actually wants a second term and hasn't yet.
But -- the left's opinion of him is just Standard Anti Republican Politician. I can't help but feel ANY Republican who beat Hillary would be in this same predicament.
Now, AOC may be a nice person when not politicking, I don't know. But I know this: One of McCain's first ads, even though he agreed to keep his promise about public financing while Obama broke his, was a congratulations to Obama winning the Primary.
One of Obama's first ads? A blatant insult about how McCain admitted an inability to use computers, by which he meant his disability received while being tortured made it hard for him to used standard handhelds and keyboards.
Yet, if you asked people, Obama was the classy guy while McCain was the dangerous lunatic.
"Chiquita Khrushchev"--great!
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