February 23, 2019

Dianne Feinstein has the guts to stand up to the children. That's not easy!

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Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

What public education does to our kids.

Criminal.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Feinstein is an arrogant prick.

The kids are indoctrinated with fear.

Sad and pathetic on all fronts.

Chuck said...

Your blog has done a number of great things, Althouse. But near the very top of the list is your consistent and insightful tagging, and exposure of, "using children in politics."

Brava.

Sprezzatura said...

She sounds lame. Coulda pushed back while being more specific.

Jabbering about being around forever is not a response that is based on reasoning/logic re the topic.

Bern failed in another way, i.e. total weakness, w/ his BLM mic-thief moment.

HRC did way better than both when she was ambushed (by BLM.)

IMHO.

tim in vermont said...

Here is a video demonstrating the proper way to use children to advance the cause of fighting global warming.

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Gahrie said...

I agree with what she did, even if not with how she did it.

Yancey Ward said...

I will take "Things You Can Do When You Don't Plan To Run In Another Election" for $500, Alex.

Sprezzatura said...

Sassy kids are all over:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/02/22/an-arizona-cop-threatened-arrest-year-old-journalist-she-wasnt-backing-down/?utm_term=.9aa136db458f

tim maguire said...

Much as we ridicule Feinstein and Pelosi, they really are the sanest voices in most of the rooms they inhabit.

mockturtle said...

Savage? I'd say she's acting like a grownup.

BarrySanders20 said...

DC bandies about the so-called nuclear option. And yet these green activists never seem to consider that the nuclear optin literally is the answer if their crisis and their urgency was real.

Agree with Chuck. Using children in politics is insightful Annsplaining, or (or Ann-observing). This is one of the cruelest examples yet. Who let their kids be used by that shrill arrogant activist?

Sprezzatura said...

The only fussy kids that y'all like are the white boys w/ MAGA hats.

I guess the future is not female. Around here.

Kevin said...

Why didn’t she ask how many of them are willing to go without hamburgers for life?

How many will never see grandma again because she lives too far away and won’t be able to fly?

How many have parents with so much extra money they can spend it insulating their home?

If kids are able to lobby for a policy, they should be able to discuss the personal consequences.

n.n said...

The Gray New Deal is founded on an unrealized hypothesis, a conflation of logical domains, and motivated by clean, renewable greenbacks. That said, it's a niche solution, with direct and collateral damage, that should be considered in a basket of energy policies.

Ann Althouse said...

She was pretty damned great there.

Original Mike said...

Will any of these people learn anything when, 12 years from now, the world hasn't ended?

The magic eight ball says "Don't count on it."

Wince said...

Here's an amazingly timeless video of Milton Friedman.

What he had to say is spot-on in understanding Feinstein exchange with the students and that horrible teacher's indoctrination.

Watch what Friedman has to say about tolerance, false certainty, humility and the search for truth.

I cued it up where he segues from the freedom to listen as distinct from the freedom of speech.

Watch the whole thing if you have time.

tcrosse said...

It reminds me of a line from "Summertime Blues". "I'd like to help you, son, but you're too young to vote".

buwaya said...

Two comments -

- Its not really the children you have to worry about, but those people in power who respond according to their wishes; or rather, that are willing to take the hue and cry as an opportunity to do what they were inclined to do anyway.

- You do have to worry about what they will be when they grow up and rise to power in their turn. The track record here does not reassure. The child is the father of the man after all.

Skeptical Voter said...

Faced with that hectoring teacher--and the all knowing 16 year old, a less tolerant person would have been tempted to slap the stuffings out of their arrogant bodies.

The teachers who fill these school children's heads with that codswallop "we're all going to die in 12 years unless you do it our way", ought to be wrapped up in a giant canvas bag with a couple of boat anchors in it, and dropped into the ocean off the Farallon Islands. Lots of great white sharks there, and they might mistake these folks for seals.

Unfortunately justice will not prevail. And while I'm no fan of Di Fi for the stunt she pulled in the Kavanaugh hearings, I'll give her props for this performance.

buwaya said...

And your public education, made that way by your higher education, is part of the fatal stream of poison. It starts at the top, your highest educational institutions. And yet nothing is being done, not even the slightest attempt to turn the poison off at the tap.

Seeing Red said...

It’s for the children. I was over that 2 decades ago.

mockturtle said...

EDH says: Here's an amazingly timeless video of Milton Friedman.

Friedman was a grownup. We have too few of these nowadays. He quoted Cromwell, rather obliquely, but it's true that Cromwell prayed and wrestled with his conscience in the genuine fear that he could be wrong. The history jury is still out on that but he never had the absolute certainty that what they were doing was God's will.

pchuck1966 said...

"I've been around for over 30 years."

That's about 24 years too long.

I find DiFi to be a nasty piece of work; however, these insufferable kids and their terrible handlers are even worse. It is like watching the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s and thinking that you just want each side to bleed each other dry.

Seeing Red said...

Every generation gets that warning and we are still here.

Wince said...

tcrosse said...
It reminds me of a line from "Summertime Blues". "I'd like to help you, son, but you're too young to vote".

Indeed. While I appreciate Feinstein not capitulating in the usual way by just blowing smoke up their asses, I was not impressed by her argumentation. Her core argument was essentially "I won".

Michael K said...


And your public education, made that way by your higher education, is part of the fatal stream of poison.


The teachers' unions are fighting every effort to provide an escape to charters or vouchers.

The Tucson school board was trying to sell a vacant school to a developer who would tear it down to keep a charter group from buying it.

Original Mike said...

"I was not impressed by her argumentation. Her core argument was essentially "I won"."

Yeah, it should have been "you people have no clue regarding the implementation of your plan". Was it the teacher who said it would cost more to do nothing? Depressing.

Zach said...

It's got to be annoying for a Senator to be cast in someone else's video recorded morality play.

The script here is obvious: idealistic kids go to Washington and give the Senator a cute letter. She praises them and promises to support their goals. Video gets a little bit of viral play and everybody goes home happy.

The discordant element is that they asked her to support a particular piece of legislation, which isn't well thought out and has a lot of crazy elements. Feinstein really can't pledge to support a plan that will ban cars and planes within 10 years. She doesn't want to play the part they wrote for her.

A wise director gets the script in working order before he starts filming.

buwaya said...

Charters and vouchers are of limited use vis the "spiritual" matters of education.
Your problem is that all your schools draw from the same pool of would-be teachers and administrators, and those who develop curriculum, and those who would train teachers, or the trainers of the trainers of teachers.

Reorganizing schools addresses minor downstream inefficiencies. It does not dam or divert or turn off the poison stream. To do that you would have to burn down Harvard.

BarrySanders20 said...

Also corrosive is the fact that the kids at the front know they are currying favor with the activist teacher by aping the party line. Clearly just regurgitating the original gurgitation from that same activist. The kids in the back who either too shy, dont care, dont agree, or dont want to be there, wont get the kudos. It's an early form of jockeying for favors from the boss.

mockturtle said...

I was not impressed by her argumentation. Her core argument was essentially "I won".

A parent should always be able to employ the argument: "I'm the adult and you're the child, that's why'. When did we get the idea that a group of heavily indoctrinated schoolchildren should have political power equal to that of elected officials? And teachers nowadays are no more grown up than their students.

Annie C. said...

Annsplaining.

Love it John!

n.n said...

Children in politics. Color in politics. Sex in politics. Gender in politics. Class in politics. Hate in politics. Animals in politics.

Emotional appeals? Extortion? Surely, you jest.

Bob Boyd said...

It's interesting, Feinstein keeps talking about knowing what she's doing in getting elected and re-elected. To Feinstein it's obvious, you have to get elected and re-elected, it's a democracy, you have to convince people , you have to get people to agree with you.
The kids and their teacher have no patience with that. They want her, expect her, think it's possible for her to act as a dictator.

Ken B said...

I am not a fan, after her Kavanaugh shit show, but this was great. We need more of this. Bravo.

mockturtle said...

Ten years or so ago NPR had a 13-year-old girl as a guest who seemingly disproved the whole theory of global warming but her research didn't get to first base with the MSM. It's all about the narrative. I'm surprised NPR even gave it space. Maybe she was Jewish [inside joke].

Sprezzatura said...

"A parent should always be able to employ the argument: "I'm the adult and you're the child, that's why'."

Great, now cons are in favor of, literally, a nanny state.

Sheesh.

AZ Bob said...

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Les chiens ne font pas des chats.

gilbar said...

Um, our Professor Althous doesn't want us to make comments towards people, but only towards their comments (i think i have that right?);
but i just want to say that When people talk about things like tagging, and exposure of, "using children in politics." without dragging in other issues and agendas; it makes people (This people, anyway) read their comments and give more thought to them. Without naming names, it's (to this person, anyway) a real improvement.

narciso said...

You strive to be this clueless, anti?

Henry said...

I wonder which aide forgot the fork on this one.

Big Mike said...

@Althouse, the video you link to was provided by the "Sunrise Movement," and highly edited. You can reach the links to the full video (it's in multiple parts) by going to this website.

Bottom line, Feinstein was gracious, but pragmatic enough to point out that there is no way to pay for the green nude eel.

Ahem, Althouse, did you not learn your lesson about highly edited videos from the Nathan Phillips - Covington Catholic kids fiasco? It seems to me that a disclaimer that your video is subject to reinterpretation after the full video has come out would be a smart move.

Big Mike said...

(Learning from the Nathan Phillips - Covington Catholic kids fiasco also applies to us commentators. Just sayin')

tim in vermont said...

This is what they Tweeted. about it: "This is how @SenFeinstein reacted to children asking her to support the #GreenNewDeal resolution -- with smugness + disrespect.

Not just the Covington boys anymore.

Birkel said...

Another edited video taken at face value.
SMDH

The Left is undermining itself with abandon.
Wokeness is not enough, now.
Most wokeness is required.

Positional good, indeed.

Big Mike said...

Okay, Althouse, I missed your comment where you wrote that Feinstein "was pretty damned great there." I apologize for that. But, my point that she was even better still stands.

Mind you, I can't stand Feinstein.

Sprezzatura said...

BTW, I saw the full video yesterday.

In fact I didn't even watch the Althouse clip today, so I never saw an edited version.

loudogblog said...

"She was pretty damned great there." I totally agree. She tried to speak reasonably and make sense without loosing her cool. A lot of people would have gotten angry about the coached kids and their adult handler who couldn't stop talking her talking points over them.

Sprezzatura said...

"I can't stand Feinstein."

So you probably don't want her to parent yur kids. Mock wants that. If DiFi doesn't parent yur kids by telling them to STFU, that means that the kids have the same political power as a US Senator.

Logic is tricky.

rhhardin said...

It's easy to stand up to children. What's hard is avoiding the wrath of soap opera women when you do it. Who's to say she managed that.

rhhardin said...

I'd have hit them with the Navier Stokes equations and the uncertainty principle in fourier analysis, and the absence of adult peer review in climate science.

cronus titan said...

@Big Mike, Thank you for the link. It shows a much, much different picture and the edited version was obviously cut to make DiFi look like a mean old lady to children who ARE GOING TO DIE unless she complies with their demands. The unedited tape show a much more professional interaction.

After the Covington debacle, one should never, ever give a hot take on a video without demanding to see the whole thing (recall that the jury acquitted the police in the Rodney King case because they saw the whole thing and not just the edited version the media wanted the public to see, so this is nothing new).

N.B. -- don't go down the rabbit hole of ALthouse's initial hot take on the Covington fiasco based upon an edited tape. Our gracious hostess gets, um, uncharacteristically defensive and aggressive when pointed out.

pchuck1966 said...

Jeez, imagine if this was Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)? Chairs and staplers thrown at staff and children. Hell to pay!

FullMoon said...

When did we get the idea that a group of heavily indoctrinated schoolchildren should have political power equal to that of elected officials?

Sixteen-year-olds could vote in Oregon, under a plan unveiled in the Legislature.

The Statesman Journal reports that several state lawmakers are introducing a bill that would ask voters to amend the Oregon Constitution to lower the voting age from 18 to 16 years old.

If the bill passes, the question would go to voters in the 2020 general election. The proposal would make Oregon the first in the nation to lower the statewide voting age to 16 years old.

The bill is backed by The Bus Project, a nonprofit organization that encourages volunteer civic activism in Oregon.

Thirteen other states, including Washington, have introduced bills since 2003 to lower the voting age, some for just school board elections and some for all state elections.

JPS said...

Tim in Vermont quotes this tweet:

"This is how @SenFeinstein reacted to children asking her to support the #GreenNewDeal resolution -- with smugness + disrespect.”

Right. Unlike, say, the smugness of the teacher or the 16-year-old. Or the kid who refers to her beforehand as "Feinstein." Hey, kid, I don't like her either but show some goddamn respect: It's Senator Feinstein.

I mean, the kids are just propagandized and told that only terrible people would think critically about what they're being shoved out front to support, but the teacher and the 16-year-old are awful.

rhhardin: I woudn't go that far. I'd have just asked, "How did you get here? And how do you plan to get here under the Green New Deal? Say, do you use the internet? Do you have any idea of the carbon footprint of those servers? Do you use air conditioning in the summer?

Now, are you going to give up all that, or will the restrictions only apply to other people, people less important than you?

Chris Lopes said...

Even in the edited version, DiFi comes off as the (quite literally) only adult in the room.

Michael K said...


Blogger rhhardin said...
I'd have hit them with the Navier Stokes equations and the uncertainty principle in fourier analysis, and the absence of adult peer review in climate science.


I think long division would have been enough to stump them. The teachers, too.

exhelodrvr1 said...

The Democrats are fracturing.

Sprezzatura said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2013/10/17/president-obama-to-republicans-i-won-deal-with-it/?utm_term=.e681468597d3

mockturtle said...

The Statesman Journal reports that several state lawmakers are introducing a bill that would ask voters to amend the Oregon Constitution to lower the voting age from 18 to 16 years old.

We should probably amend the current law to increase the voting age to 25 due to the fact that children take much longer to mature these days.

mockturtle said...

And Feinstein would make a better teacher than that nitwit in the video.

Michael K said...


Charters and vouchers are of limited use vis the "spiritual" matters of education.
Your problem is that all your schools draw from the same pool of would-be teachers and administrators,


I don't disagree but the charters and private schools get those teachers who are not happy in the industrial education system. They want something different. That's why the unions hate them.

My grandson had a 4th grade teacher who told his mother she could not do the math problems using Common Core, either.

He is now in a charter and there is improvement. I sent his father to private school but the tuition has gone astronomical. I can no long afford to send the grandchildren.

I have told his father that college might not be the best choice, at least at age 18. A tour in the Marine Corps would let him grow up. Colleges are unsafe for boys these days.

David Begley said...

I’ve said it before, GND almost guarantees Trump’s win in 2020.

mockturtle said...

I’ve said it before, GND almost guarantees Trump’s win in 2020.

I hope so. I'd like to see Trump do something more about health care, though. While most people don't like the GND, most people have real concerns about the cost of health insurance. If you're neither poor nor rich, you're SOL.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Interesting that you can you look at a group of kids, and, based solely on appearance and location, guess with a fair degree of accuracy who’s using them. Monocultures used to be full of surprises. Multicultures are tediously predictable.

exhelodrvr1 said...

"I'd like to see Trump do something more about health care, though."

He could, if the Dims would stop taking up so much of the admin's time and energy with the "resistance." And they have made a lot of progress on prescription prices, and easing the restrictions on approving use of experimental procedures.

~ Gordon Pasha said...

Using children as props for the Green Agenda is a no-no, while using children as props to justify illegal immigration is great? At least the teacher didn't sell the kids to coyotes to drag across a trackless desert.

narciso said...

you should see how they are teaching regular division, that is mind arson as the proprietor of the invisible serf's collar blog has put it, buwayas point is good though, there is a ready replacement of knowledge based instruction,

Bay Area Guy said...

These kids are spoiled and their parents are morons.

MaxedOutMama said...

I think she wasn't harsh and explicit enough. The kids are being used here, and not breaking the news to them that
- they really don't know what they are talking about,
- that this is not their responsibility yet because they are still learning what they need to know to be a useful part of the discussion,
-and that "possibility matters"
is the kindest thing to do. Children should be allowed to be children. Get these kids off the hot seat. They'll be quite relieved.

Public education really is abusive right now. On the one hand children are personally coddled, on the other hand they are terrorized with all this stuff.

Frankly, I think modern adults are mostly fluffballs and idiots, but while in most cases I tolerate it because I believe we have the right to be idiots under the US Constitution, when it comes to child abuse, NO. Children have a right not to be mentally tortured by idiots.

I found myself seethingly angry at the teachers who put the kids in this situation. Just raging.

M Jordan said...

Republicans immediately go 8bto the “Jeff Flake head hanging in the elevator” posture when ambushed. Trump doesn’t and that’s why I voted for him. But Feinstein? I’m stunned, I guess this shows just how rancid AOC is becoming.

Andrew said...

How utterly sad and pathetic.

I wish one of the kids had asked her, "How come you waited until the last minute to f--- up the Kavanaugh hearing?

Sebastian said...

"Or the kid who refers to her beforehand as "Feinstein.""

A small but telling data point, indicating how the grown-ups around her talk.

But the kerfuffle nicely illustrates the cold civil war on the left.

Not Sure said...

I'm not sure those kids are from a public school. They look a little too selectively diverse, and act a bit too entitled for that.

MaxedOutMama said...

Big Mike - thanks for link to the full video. I will watch it later today when I have time.

Tina Trent said...

Feinstein may have saved one of those children from the howling leftist abyss.

If you think this teacher wouldn't put those who disagree with her in camps, you're not paying attention.

I'm no fan of Ayn Rand's fiction or Feinstein's politics. But for some reason this video reminds me of Rand's astonishing appearance on Donohue.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

There was nothing wrong with the way Feinstein responded except to keep saying she just won an election. I understand why she said it, but it didn’t sound good. I don’t think using these children to push a Green New Deal is a good idea. She is doing the best she can and she won’t be around for that many more years, so the mother/adult could’ve taken that into consideration.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

The adult was their teacher? The range of ages of those children ranged from teens to what looked like 12 year olds. The teacher needs a reprimand for using these kids to harass an elderly Senator who IS trying to do the best she can. Why didn’t they walk down to some Republican Senators offices and chant some protest slogan?

Not Sure said...

Why didn’t they walk down to some Republican Senators offices and chant some protest slogan?

They've been told Republicans want to lure them into their gingerbread offices and then have them for lunch.

Limited Perspective said...

Being an adult isn't "standing up to children." Good grief, is there a more childish phrase to being an adult?

"Standing up to children" means you go to work to provide a home, a family, and meal around the table. After that and few years experience you can tell the children to be skeptical about politicians.

Larry J said...

Mao had his Great Leap Forward. Based on scientific stupidity, communist brutality, and economc ignorance, the Great Leap Forward killed from 40-60 million Chinese people. Bolshevik Barbie’s so-called Green New Deal is more accurately the Green Leap Forward. It was all rhe scientific and economic reality of a bunch of stoned college freshmen passing around a fat bunt.

Humperdink said...

Oop said "....The teacher needs a reprimand for using these kids to harass an elderly Senator who IS trying to do the best she can....."

Elderly, you say? If Feinstein needs protected from disrespectful chil'ren because she's a geezer, she needs to find another line of work.

Trying to do the best she can? What drivel. Trying doesn't get it in any endeavor. Execution does. And Feinstein has been on the job in forever, she should be an expert at this.

fivewheels said...

Cassidy did it better.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

That teacher is horrible. Just horrible. If she is an example of our public school indoctrination - we are really screwed.

Caring about the planet if a good thing. Global warming alarmist ministry is irresponsible fear-mongering and has no place in the classroom.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Shorter Inga - It's only OK to harass Republicans.

Achilles said...

I want to know what arrangements Chi Fi made with China to hamstring our economy and make stupid crony deals to core out our manufacturing and force it to go to China.

The little kids looked like well coached little tools. It looked like a pretty solid cadre of indoctrinators and foreign agents around them.

Kevin said...

Wow, that adult is insanely irresponsible.

Do you remember in the 60's when there was a tv special that depicted a classroom where the teacher got replaced and by the end of the show she had brainwashed the kids into being outright Communists? Well, this is that teacher. How many thousands, 10s of thousands more of her are out there?

The only thing that can save our nation is a real purge, particularly targeting education and the media. And we haven't got the guts to do it, so that's it, it's over. Good luck without us, world.

Sprezzatura said...

Here's the model for DiFi re shutin' down GND dopes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2k-XW-gYHc

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

that's SENATOR Feinstein to you, you mouthy little twerp

Oh my GOD what kind of self important smug little shits prog parents are raising

Sprezzatura said...

"Oh my GOD what kind of self important smug little shits prog parents are raising"

Presumably it'd be better if they were taking off their shirts and screaming chants and jumping and flailing limbs. If they did that they should get a quarter bil.


I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

Why didn’t they walk down to some Republican Senators offices and chant some protest slogan?

Because kids don't know jack shit about anything, and have no fucking business lecturing adults anywhere, any time, for any reason, and their free time is best spent reading books.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Elderly, you say? If Feinstein needs protected from disrespectful chil'ren because she's a geezer, she needs to find another line of work.”

No. She deserves some respect as an elderly person and for her many years of service as US Senator. She did more than hold her own in that interaction and giving her respect isn’t the same as “protecting” her. You’re confused again, as usual. I wonder, did you not teach your own children to behave respectfully toward elderly people? I did.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Why didn’t they walk down to some Republican Senators offices and chant some protest slogan?”

“Because kids don't know jack shit about anything, and have no fucking business lecturing adults anywhere, any time, for any reason, and their free time is best spent reading books.”

That was tongue in cheek, but it would’ve been less disrespectful.

Kevin said...

The TV show I remembered was called The Children's Story, and it was from l982, not the '60s. It's available online.

rehajm said...

Yeas. Teacher is an indoctrinated asshole that's exploiting children for political gain. The kids are already stupid. Feinstein is well past her expiration date and while it wasn't her worst performance she could have handled it like a professional with 30 years experience.

Everyone loses.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

Sorry about the language, Inga. I fully admit to getting emotionally spun up over this video because I am so upset that kids are being raised and/or educated this way. They will NOT be good citizens or leaders in the future; they are not only empty of knowledge, humility, wisdom, respect and tolerance but they are being actively trained to not even grasp the concept of those aspects of character. This scares the everloving shit out of me.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

I am also very angry that these kids are being told all these scary lies about reality and about the future. This is no different than any other religious fanatics scaring the shit out of their kids by telling them bullshit nonsense.

Seeing Red said...

Total snark. Just tell the kids in 12 years, it’s a late term abortion. They’ll be for it.

Inga...Allie Oop said...
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Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Sorry about the language, Inga.”

No problem Pants. That teacher and those kids were darn lucky that Senator Feinstein allowed them to harangue her for such a long time. I hope the parents after seeing the video were second guessing their decision to allow their kids to go on this trip. I’d be upset if my son or daughter behaved that way. I’m a liberal, a progressive and a Democrat and I know many liberal parents who teach their kids to be respectful

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

If the world is gonna end in 12 years - we must harass! harass! harass! - until we are heard.


*I agree Pants - these kids need to learn something besides fear mongering and harassment.
See above. Justified - because the world is gonna end in 12 years.

mockturtle said...

Michael K reports: The Tucson school board was trying to sell a vacant school to a developer who would tear it down to keep a charter group from buying it.

In a community we lived for a while, my church wanted to buy an elementary school that had been closed and offered a reasonable bid. The school system ended up selling to a much lower bidder who was going to tear it down and build apartments. Go figure.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

No one wants to talk serious serious population control. There ARE way too many people on the planet - especially in 3rd world nations where sanitation and environment regulations are non existent.

No one wants to discuss tubal ligation or vasectomies for those who are willing. Too scary? But somehow bortion is A-OK.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

In CO - the public school system has the tax payer pinned to the wall with a gun. The tax payer funded early lifetime retirement packages these public school teachers receive (and then early retirement) is going to bleed us dry.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

What these kids have been taught regarding global warming is based on the latest science available. That’s not the problem, IMO.

“The world’s leading climate scientists have warned there is only a dozen years for global warming to be kept to a maximum of 1.5C, beyond which even half a degree will significantly worsen the risks of drought, floods, extreme heat and poverty for hundreds of millions of people.

The authors of the landmark report by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) released on Monday say urgent and unprecedented changes are needed to reach the target, which they say is affordable and feasible although it lies at the most ambitious end of the Paris agreement pledge to keep temperatures between 1.5C and 2C.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report

rehajm said...

The world’s leading climate scientists have warned

Some say...

wwww said...

I could watch about 5 seconds before I needed to turn it off. Kids shouldn't be used as political props in this way. Who was the adult? very irresponsible. & a bad example of teaching kids how to behave with an adult who put aside time to meet them them. I hate this call-out culture stuff. It doesn't do kids any favours to teach them to behave like this.

My parents insisted that we must speak about their friends formally. First names were NEVER used. (Mr. or Mrs. or Dr.) I can't imagine their reaction if they saw their kids or grandkids lecturing a Senator.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Name a nation who decreased their so called carbon emissions.
Bueller?

rhhardin said...

Scientists experiment on fruit flies because their brains are very similar to ours.

- OSS 117 (2006)

Guildofcannonballs said...

"I'd have hit them with the Navier Stokes equations and the uncertainty principle in fourier analysis, and the absence of adult peer review in climate science."

Me too.

It is funny how scared of children some people are. I hope those people get the Hell out of America, a land with dirt they have no connection nor appeal to.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Wwww, same thing here. I taught my kids to address adults by Mr, Mrs, Miss, Dr. or family titles when warranted. My grandchildren and the people in our community and family also are introduced to adults using the formal title.

FullMoon said...
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Warren Fahy said...

She was really standing up to the teachers, who were really out of line. The teachers were using those kids in a terrible way. Obviously not climatologists, they were hiding behind kids to make their point. Should be a new logical fallacy - argumentum ad infans?

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Pants said..
I am also very angry that these kids are being told all these scary lies about reality and about the future. This is no different than any other religious fanatics scaring the shit out of their kids by telling them bullshit nonsense.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Nice one fivewheels. I'm gonna grab that link. Passin it around tonight.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Wait, I was thinking of Charles Napier stoking the natives and Ron Fournier showcasing ignorant certainty, but at least I have heard of peer review, I think.

Yes, it was Ed Begley Jr. that brought it up, on Hannity maybe?, about 15 years ago.

"Peer review, don't believe me, believe the damn peer review" he said almost, even though all the peers are dependent for their livelihoods on the expensive bullshit scam. Cue Sinclair.

This is a link, it wasn't Hannity.

Henry said...

No one wants to talk serious serious population control. There ARE way too many people on the planet

I was kind of hoping Senator Feinstein would say to the kids, "You! You are the problem!"

Guildofcannonballs said...

From the WaPo:


“As far as the hierarchy at Indiana University at that time, I have absolutely no respect whatsoever for those people. And that in mind, I have no interest in ever going back to that university.”

At that point, Patrick offered the thought that resulted in Knight saying, “I hope they’re all dead.” When the host said he knew that “some of them are,” Knight responded with, “Well, I hope the rest of them go.”


"Knight was let go by Indiana after the notoriously cantankerous coach had been advised to rein in his behavior, which included allegedly choking a player. Following a run-in with a student who greeted him with, “Hey, Knight, what’s up?” he was asked to resign. Knight refused, and Indiana president Myles Brand fired him."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/03/10/bob-knight-on-indiana-officials-i-hope-theyre-all-dead/?utm_term=.b86228804a26

Charlie Currie said...

Children are to be seen and not heard.

Narayanan said...

Play with me.

Suppose this is Red Pill moment for DiFi.
If she switches to R will she be senior to Mitch?

Humperdink said...

Hump said: “Elderly, you say? If Feinstein needs protected from disrespectful chil'ren because she's a geezer, she needs to find another line of work.”

Oop responded: "No. She deserves some respect as an elderly person and for her many years of service as US Senator. She did more than hold her own in that interaction and giving her respect isn’t the same as “protecting” her."

Sorry, you were doing fine until you tossed in the word elderly, as in old. She deserves respect because she's an adult, not as an elderly senator. And years of service as a US Senator is detriment from my perspective. Especially she serviced her husband and his bank account with her government connections.

Guildofcannonballs said...

"The only thing that can save our nation is a real purge, particularly targeting education and the media. And we haven't got the guts to do it, so that's it, it's over. Good luck without us, world."

Right. We are the only people, I can think of, to face fascism and adversity. And we gonna lose because our arguments are so bigotedly defectively weak there is no possible source of light, especially some discredited idea of God.

America don't believe in nothing like that, no sir.

Hey maybe you could write a new bible and make a lot of money? Just for kicks, since we all know how and why everything is fucked no matter what.

Phil 314 said...

The dogma is strong in that teacher.

Humperdink said...

And further, DiFiChi* deserves no respect for sitting on the Ballsey Ford revelations all summer, and then springing them on us at the last minute. She needed to resign in disgrace at that moment. No surprise you think the world of her.


*Di = Diane, Fi = Feinstein, Chi = having a Chinese spy on her payroll for a decade or two. And getting away with it.

ALP said...

Wimpy kids. She should have told them all about 'duck and cover' drills and the fear the Russians would bomb us into nothing. Could have made a better point about fearmongering and politics. They will get over this.

And I am so glad I don't know anyone with annoying kids like this.

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SMURF said...

RiCo's big problem here is that she can't tell the little brats that she knows the whole AGW scam is a crock and they should just learn some math and physics and shut up until they do. Di has to pretend to believe the same rubbish the brats do because THE GRAFT is simply stupendous and the old hag wants some of it.

JPS said...

ALP:

"She should have told them all about 'duck and cover' drills and the fear the Russians would bomb us into nothing. Could have made a better point about fearmongering and politics."

Right. And 35 years ago, the equivalents of that teacher and those students would have been demanding the exact opposite of the policies that helped bring a peaceful end to the Cold War. They would have had utter contempt for any sane Democrat (presumed to be on their side) who patiently tried to explain why it was necessary to stand firm against the Soviets.

Guildofcannonballs said...

"They will NOT be good citizens or leaders in the future; they are not only empty of knowledge, humility, wisdom, respect and tolerance but they are being actively trained to not even grasp the concept of those aspects of character. This scares the everloving shit out of me."

Amazing how genetically you have arguments you are too afraid to say but epigenetically you are off base but certainly declaiming here at the Althouse blog.

But before I present my best case I will claim the dog didn't bark: you really feel the Commies didn't try to indoctrinate? They just didn't do it right you say, yet you believe with all your bewithered heart these proggie fucks in CA and, yes, America as a whole have?

Dumb.

Say you have no faith, not in God, not in America, and not in what Chambers talks about below:

"You may fool some adults, you can't fool little boys and girls with such stuff — not for long. They may not know just what is out of line, but they stir uneasily."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2705853/posts

Guildofcannonballs said...

Babs telling the General "Please call me Senator I worked for and earned that title" or some shit when he addressed her as "Ma'am" as he would and has addressed any Senator as "Sir" is a point in ChiFi's column.

Mao would have made a lot of hay of her, if only...

Big Mike said...

“The world’s leading climate scientists have warned there is only a dozen years for global warming to be kept to a maximum of 1.5C, beyond which even half a degree will significantly worsen the risks of drought, floods, extreme heat and poverty for hundreds of millions of people.

You are aware, I hope, that essentially the same prediction has been made every year for almost a quarter century? If you believe the junk science, we’ve already been dead for a decade. None of their predictions — as in NOT ONE — has come to pass.

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Michael K said...

What those children will be like in a few years.

My students are know-nothings.They are exceedingly nice, pleasant, trustworthy, mostly honest, well-intentioned, and utterly decent. But their minds are largely empty, devoid of any substantial knowledge that might be the fruits of an education in an inheritance and a gift of a previous generation.They are the culmination of western civilization, a civilization that has forgotten it origins and aims, and as a result, has achieved near-perfect indifference about itself.

It’s difficult to gain admissions to the schools where I’ve taught – Princeton, Georgetown, and now Notre Dame.Students at these institutions have done what has been demanded of them:they are superb test-takers, they know exactly what is needed to get an A in every class (meaning that they rarely allow themselves to become passionate and invested in any one subject), they build superb resumes. They are respectful and cordial to their elders, though with their peers (as snatches of passing conversation reveal), easygoing if crude.They respect diversity (without having the slightest clue what diversity is) and they are experts in the arts of non-judgmentalism (at least publicly).They are the cream of their generation, the masters of the universe, a generation-in-waiting who will run America and the world.


Stepford wives come to mind but that is an image of the left.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Look at the stories of the Jihadi brides wanting to escape are still able to be redeemed, even though many magnitudes worse offenders to Jesus' conscious in my lackluster opinion, than whatever these children the Great Bu Bu sees as his vanquishers have committed sin-wise.

Vengeance belongs to God alone. Self-defense is confused with vengeance by traitors like the dual-loyalty Jews and useful idiots.

If dual-loyalty Jews stop with the dual-loyalty I won't be offensive anymore, promise.

cubanbob said...

Is every Green an idiot? Or do they believe themselves exempt from what it would take to accomplish their goals? The teacher should be fired for propagandizing the children. The parents if they had any awareness of the teacher's indoctrination should be outraged.

cubanbob said...

Vengeance belongs to God alone. Self-defense is confused with vengeance by traitors like the dual-loyalty Jews and useful idiots."

Where do you come up with such stupidity? What do you think cops, courts and prisons are for? Vengeance for the powerless because without a functioning government all we would have is armed militias. By the way, Truman gave Japan two nuclear strikes as vengeance for Pearl Harbor. Nobody at the time was expecting the Lord to render vengeance right there and then. Find a better excuse for your anti-semitism.

Guildofcannonballs said...

"Blogger I Have Misplaced My Pants said...
I am also very angry that these kids are being told all these scary lies about reality and about the future. This is no different than any other religious fanatics scaring the shit out of their kids by telling them bullshit nonsense."

You just stated the previous comment these kids are "NOT" ...

And you follow up with the above.

Duh.

Maybe you're the baddie, with your neurotic fear of the other, the so so so powerful other.

Fuck that. Grow up. Be a mom, not a scared freak. What in God's name do you think your ancestors, whomever they are, survived so that you exist? It is much much more than your fears of tomorrow.

mockturtle said...

Be aware that these are Californians. We often wonder why they are the way they are. Now we know.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“She deserves respect because she's an adult, not as an elderly senator.”

I guess you missed where I said I taught my children to be respectful to adults and address them as Mr or Mrs, etc. and yes indeed the elderly should be given even MORE respect. If you don’t agree, that’s your perogative, but I’d hate to see what you taught your kids regarding the treatment of elderly people who haven’t done anything to harm them and are on their side, to boot. Too bad the teacher didn’t teach her students that.

mockturtle said...

Dickin' asserts: No one wants to talk serious serious population control. There ARE way too many people on the planet

Help is on the way, more than likely, in the form of mutated microorganisms. Viruses are the most adaptable life form on the planet.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“No one wants to talk serious serious population control. There ARE way too many people on the planet.”

So who do you want to kill off first Bimbo? All the outrage over early abortion by your fellow conservatives and you come up with this gem?


Inga...Allie Oop said...

Is Bimbo going to scold all the conservative moms who’ve had four, five, six or more children? How many children should people have Bimbo?

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Where are the conservative males who’ve been yammering about the birth rate going down and saying it’s all the fault of feminists. Now here we have Bimbo, a female conservative extraordinaire saying we have too many people on the earth and something must be done!!

Guildofcannonballs said...

"Navier Stokes equations"

Just from memory, I didn't google it or nuttin', fropm epory along:

Trig can be used accurately although not precisely.

Precision demands deeper, more complex considerations not addressed by the 'nomatry known as Trig.

cubanbob said...

Inga...Allie Oop said...
Is Bimbo going to scold all the conservative moms who’ve had four, five, six or more children? How many children should people have Bimbo?"

After your high faux outrage consider what the effect of fully implementing the Green New Deal and the rest of the AGW measures would have on sustaining the world's current population. Here's a hint: not good. If people want to have vasectomies and tubal ligations that's their choice which is completely different from killing someone who already exists simply because they exist.

Laura said...

Wait, Democrat senators are not Santa Claus, poised to give their constituents whatever they want upon receipt of a letter?

Time to go harass, er, chant at the Republicans.

If the teacher had any grasp on educating, she would have asked about the specifics of Senator Feinstein's plan.

alanc709 said...

Malthus has been proven wrong repeatedly. All lower American birth rates do is ensure our eventual demise as a country.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Viscosity has been an interest of mine for some time. Thanks to RH, I know now more about it.

And where to look for more. Knowledge.

Safpheir-Whorf complex 10.

Laura said...

"Shout your tubal ligation" apparently has too many syllables.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

I’d say all you conservatives who are worried about the overpopulation of the world should be supportive of Planned Parenthood and it’s global initiatives. Planned Parenthood does far more to help families PLAN how many children they have and refer to abortion services IF the woman desires one. Time to stop being hypocrites and time to stop trying to defund it. Your faux outrage over even early abortion is transparent.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Shout your tubal ligation" apparently has too many syllables.”

Yes something Planned Parenthood helps women here and in other countries acquire if they so desire.

Humperdink said...

@Oop. Looking forward toward your respectful treatment of President Trump, your elder.

Michael K said...

consider what the effect of fully implementing the Green New Deal

I'm looking forward to the railroad tracks to Mars.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Humperdink, if I were to meet Trump in person, I would be respectful and polite, as much as I disrespect him. If you met Senator Feinstein in person, you’d probably knock her down and call her a geezer. Are you once again not understanding normotypical interactions?

Sprezzatura said...

"Now here we have Bimbo, a female conservative extraordinaire saying we have too many people on the earth and something must be done!!"

Not to mention that Pants thinks it's terrible for parents to scare kids by telling them that if they don't do x,y and z, they'll suffer for eternity, in hell.

Bill Maher would agree.

At least she's intellectually consistent re not wanting to use fear to train kids.

Original Mike said...

@Narayanan Subramanian - Your 5:24 comment attributes to me a statement that is not mine.

But I see you are Google+, so I guess your misattribution is ephemeral.

Humperdink said...

" If you met Senator Feinstein in person, you’d probably knock her down and call her a geezer."

The master of projection again dear leftie. (See Rand Paul, Steve Scalise)

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Inga - you argue like a moron.

It's the left who like to kill people - thru genocide or thru abortion.

Birth control is what I'm talking about. Or are you that dense?

You're pro dead baby - right Inga?

And I never discussed punishing anyone, did I? You dishonest ugly cunt.

James K said...

I thought Feinstein handled this badly. It was basically a "Do you know who I am?" sort of response that lacked substance. She should have directed her ire entirely at the teacher for brainwashing the kids instead of teaching them. To the kids she could have said nicely to them that while she appreciates their enthusiasm, they need to stay in school and learn more before making their minds up on important issues.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Inga - do tell us how the Covington Boys were guilty. Nick Sandman was guilty - right Inga?

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Planned Parenthood is in the business of abortion, Inga. Planned Parenthood in the business of selling baby parts. The idea that ONLY Planned Parenthood can deal with population control is laughable.

btw- I know most conservatives do not see global population as a problem.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Bimbo,

You aren’t intelligent enough to realize that you say ridiculous things that can be EASILY called out as hypocritical. Do you think no one notices? Do you think you’re in a safe place so no one will draw attention to your idiocy? I’ll be here to let you know when you should be embarrassed at your oftentimes dumb commentary.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

I note you didn't answer any of my questions, Inga.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

And do call out my hypocrisy Inga- please do. Call it out.
The problem you have is that you cannot do it honestly without putting words in my mouth.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Bimbo, why would I grace you with an answer? If I did that it might mean I recognized you to be worthy of taking seriously. You’re a Dumb Bimbo, now I’m done with you in this thread anyway.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Inga - everyone knows you have no original thoughts of your own. We all have a hunch it must be Rachel Maddow.

Rory said...

Michael K quoted:"But their minds are largely empty, devoid of any substantial knowledge that might be the fruits of an education in an inheritance and a gift of a previous generation."

Feinstein should have given them a math quiz, talked only to the high scorer. Promotes interest in science.

Sprezzatura said...

"Inga - do tell us how the Covington Boys were guilty."

They were kids who were bussed into a political thing-y. So, they're guilty of kids being used for politics. They also had political hats on = more kids being used for politics. But, if they're gonna politic, presumably they coulda tightened up the presentation such that there were not removing clothes and shouting, bouncing and flailing, and blocking the passage of a loon old geezer w/ a drum is a bad look. Imagine if the kids in this DiFi thing did all of that stuff in front of her. Would they deserve a quarter of a billion?

narciso said...

Well how about that:
https://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/timeline-of-the-isis-bride/

rehajm said...

I like that in 12 years when earth isn’t uninhabitable we can finally put this long global hoax behind us and work in constructive policies for humanity.

Pugsley the Pug said...

What the left in this country, particularly AOC, fails to comprehend and take into account, is the Russians, Asian Indians, and especially the Chinese, will not ever follow what they propose in the Green New Deal (GND) for this country. Not only their Socialist policies such as the so-called and misnomered “Medicare for all” but AOC’s proposed (and quickly pulled from her website because she showed her true intentions too early in a tactical & possibly strategic blunder) GND would utterly bankrupt this country rather quickly. These policies would render the USA prostrate to Chinese aggression. But being a good Communist, that might be her and her comrades ultimate goal where thet can live the high life in power & the rest of the us in the proletariat are just plain screwed.

narciso said...

Oh really intersting:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6738081/GCHQ-spy-chief-quit-helped-paedophile-Catholic-priest-avoid-jail.html

Laura said...

"You are aware, I hope, that essentially the same prediction has been made every year for almost a quarter century? If you believe the junk science, we’ve already been dead for a decade. None of their predictions — as in NOT ONE — has come to pass."

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/despite-what-youve-heard-global-warming-isnt-making-weather-more-extreme/

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“They were kids who were bussed into a political thing-y. So, they're guilty of kids being used for politics. They also had political hats on = more kids being used for politics.”

You got a point there Sitter. Why were these high school kids taken to a political rally? What was their use at the rally?

Guildofcannonballs said...

"JFK is your loyalty to the Pope?"

"No."

Simple. No evidence otherwise, compelling.

Guildofcannonballs said...

What did happen to dual-loyalty traitors before now?

Why?

Is history over?

Guildofcannonballs said...

Some are forced to renounce their religion, others get off on defending other's faith, vicariously more perverted or pathetic?

Unknown said...

If this is how we're going to indoctrinate and use our children, abortion doesn't seem like such a bad option.

Original Mike said...

"You got a point there Sitter. Why were these high school kids taken to a political rally?"

This is news to me. What political rally?

Freeman Hunt said...

Good for her! I like it!

Guildofcannonballs said...

I sense bigotry in our midst. Anti-Muslim hatred Semitic questionings.

Sprezzatura said...

"What political rally?"

March for life, or something like that.

Original Mike said...

March for life was earlier in the day, I believe.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“March for life was earlier in the day, I believe.”

Didn’t the Covington boys attend the March for Life?

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Do f it, Inga and Sitter.
Teens at a pro life rally. Perhaps you leftwing fascists can make that illegal.
That's how you roll.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

I like how Hillary sets up a Private Server to do offical state business in secret. WE all know why. Big international $$$$$.
Criminal.

Then - Trump JOKES about Russia finding HER subpoenaed and deleted 30,000 emails - and Trump is in trouble with the law. Lets here it for leftwing facism!

Covington Kids go to US capital for civics lesson (which would be A-OK on the left for any leftwing cause) ..they buy and wear souvenirs and wait for their bus and the left, in unison hivemind, go ape ship and lie and smear.

It's what leftwing fascists do I suppose.

Guildofcannonballs said...

If I have ever expressed hatred for a group, and then I exclude a different group, I am hating on the excluded group more than the originally hated-upon group.

My philosophy runs deeper than does yours.

Guildofcannonballs said...

If I've got a 70% enemy I treat as a 10% enemy that is my racist, disparate impact bigorty that must end. Now.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Using children for political purposes, not just wrong when Democrats do it. Is it remotely possible for you folks to recognize your hypocrisy?

Michael K said...

The Covington kids were going a March for Life rally, not appearing on TV or lecturing politicians.

It was a field trip and first trip away from home. They were not the ones making the event political.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...
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Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

I know - Lets ban all conservatives, Catholics, and boys from the National Mall.

If you're a teacher sanctified in the offical global warming alarmist ministry, you get a special whiner waiver.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Hypocrisy?
Apples and oranges.

Did the Covington teens shove microphones and cameras in Senators faces, while making demands? Somebody shoved a camera in Nick Sandman's face and his facial expression wasn't good enough for the mind-crime left. So you rolled out the smear machine.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

In any case.

buwaya said...

The Covington boys, some of them, bought their own MAGA hats. They were not issued hats.

Teenagers also have political opinions.
Pro-life is a partisan movement only because the issue became intensely partisan through cultural alignment.

jg said...

"it's urgent AND affordable" to implement some anti global warming thing ... give me a fucking break. try 'we can spend an affordable amount now or a much greater amount later' for your next phony sales pitch - it might actually fool someone

Sprezzatura said...

Look how Althouse tricked all of ya to self-contradict re goin' hard re adults not using kids in political disputes. Got ya goin' w/ the 'what's good for thee, but not for me' thing. There's no way to doll that up. Trying to do so just makes the fail more noticeable.

She's sneaky.

Some say cruel.

gadfly said...

No one likes DiFi, the Reigning Queen of the Socialist Republic of San Francisco. She was an admiring friend of the God of Socialism, Jim Jones - and his Peoples Temple flock. But she was right there when 300 Temple worshipers and Harvey Milk died at the hands of delusional psychopaths who demanded unquestioning loyalty and preached oversimplifications of life's on/off switches.

This video isn't about mean Diane Feinstein - it is about the false teaching of pliable children. Cyanide-laced Kool Aid disguised as today's lesson plan.

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