... you can talk about anything you want, but I'm going to be watching the State of the Union, which is just about to start. How about you? I don't live-blog anymore. I don't like the feeling of coming out with instant opinions. I'd rather soak it up, then see what stays with me and write the next morning, with the aid of a transcript. I hope Trump does well — brings us together, inspires optimism and so forth. I wonder what it will be like with Nancy in the background the whole time...
UPDATE: That was damn near perfect. So upbeat, full of optimism. The singing of “Happy Birthday” was a unique moment. Beautiful.
February 5, 2019
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 438 of 438So far I don't care for the applause lines. Probably it's better seen as pulling the rug out from under the dems in the view of soap opera women, by wrong-footing the dems at every turn. I'll wait for the Scott Adams.
Hazards of jump up applaud conventions used.
I'm never the right audience for speeches.
Great speech, by a Pres. who has had great results.
Fact checks do the all too common twist or distort some true thing he actually said to be something different, then debunk the non-said thing.
Like twisting from "criminal illegal aliens" committing crimes, to a CATO analysis that shows a crime rate about the same for immigrants and native born.
He's calling for unity, and greatness. Good call.
exhelodrvr1 said...
Learn to code, Chuck.
Okay, that there is funny, I don't care who you are!
I can't imagine ever sitting through a State of the Union address...by any president.
The use of individual crimes as a point of persuasion in favor of broad-based immigration policy is just as rigorous as the use of individual crimes in favor of broad-based gun control. In order to be persuaded you have to favor one of two things. Either you believe in a totem or you favor totalitarianism.
Pick any aspect of the open society and death will be ascribed to it.
Open borders -- some immigrants are potential murderers
Gun rights -- some gun owners are potential murderers.
Driving cars -- some drivers are potential murderers.
Free exchange of information -- like how to manufacture explosives?
Flying lessons?
Alcohol?
An obvious rejoinder is that you can pick the thing you oppose and eliminate it. You can eliminate murders by immigrants by imposing draconian laws against immigration. And when murders happen anyway, despite your legions of Eliot Nesses, you can give the government more power to make more arrests and prosecute faster. Eventually you just give the government the power to disappear people.
Yes, this is a favorite tactic of the Democrats, appropriated here by Trump.
The problem with this technique are the probabilities. Statistically, ILLEGAL immigrants are significantly more likely than non immigrants to be violent criminals, and to be on some sort of welfare or public assistance (your lumping of legal and illegal immigrants together is indicia of bias and arguing in bad faith - statistically, they are very different, and you are obviously attempting to reduce the impact of illegal immigration in this way). Similarly, while the occasional concealed carry permit holder will commit a violent gun related crime, statistically, they, as a class, tend to be far more law abiding than the general public.
Henry
https://nesn.com/2019/02/watch-huge-brawl-break-out-between-patriots-fans-at-super-bowl-parade/
""Yes, sadly there still would be murders committed by Americans. Murder won’t go away if there is no wall."
I doubt the U.S. murder rate would be significantly reduced at all if a wall were built. Which is to say, the "threat" of murderous illegal immigrants laying waste to Americans is bullshit, pure fear-mongering.
I find all those Dem women wearing white hilarious. Their timing couldn’t have been worse. For at least a century, the KKK was the militant wing of their party. This last week has focused a significant amount of national attention on Gov Coonman of VA, a state with a long history of KKK membership. And, of course, former KKK Grand Kleagle Bob “Sheets” Byrd was a Dem Senator from WV next door for better than a half century, and was lionized by many prominent Dems, including Crooked Hillary. Coonman apparently picked a photo for his med school yearbook that showed a KKK member in his robe standing next to a guy wearing blackface. Was he going to resign? Should he resign? Etc. Currently, it looks like he is going to ride it out. What these Dem women seem to have forgotten is that KKK wives, inevitably Democrats, also wore white, either white dresses, or sheets of their own. The difference is that when they wore hoods, they were apparently typically open faced. So, whatever message they were trying to make last night, by wearing white together (such as supporting postpartum abortions), for much of the country, thanks to Gov Coonman, the message they sent was a reminder that they were the party of the KKK, that used to string up uppity blacks for fun, and wanted to push Roman Catholics ( like the Hispanics they so crave) into the ocean. Not good timing at all.
Had to skip most of the comments. Inga is the dumbest person that has ever commented, and I couldn't stand anymore of her nonsense.
A friend that I went to high school with just came back from Vietnam, and was at Da Nang where he served. The Vietnamese love Americans. They'll love Trump for sure.
"He repeatedly brought up D-Day, concentration camp liberation....as undisputed examples of American greatness."
Did he mention that we had Allies in WWII, all of whom had been fighting the war before we joined it, who helped win the war and liberate the concentration camps? We didn't build that by ourselves.
“The problem with this technique are the probabilities. Statistically, ILLEGAL immigrants are significantly more likely than non immigrants to be violent criminals...”
Immigration, illegal and otherwise is associated with LESS violent crimes.
“I doubt the U.S. murder rate would be significantly reduced at all if a wall were built. Which is to say, the "threat" of murderous illegal immigrants laying waste to Americans is bullshit, pure fear-mongering.”
I think that is partisan wishful thinking on your part, and true only to an extent because of the huge size of the denominator. On a per capital basis, illegals appear to be significantly more violent and more willing to commit crimes (excluding the crime of being here illegally) than the general public, and esp when contrasted to legal immigrants. I see no rational reason to allow the bulk of them into this country, because of these statistical predilections of increased criminality and welfare usage over the general public (esp since so many are 3rd world peasants without even a full grade school education, in our highly technological society). If we need to grow our population in order to fund Social Security and Medicare, wouldn’t it be better to allow more Indian and Chinese PhDs into the country on immigrant visas, than the uneducated 3rd world peasants that we get so many of these days?
I guess if we don't count the initial criminal act of illegal immigrants and the rampant uninsured motorist problems...
No, Royal ass Inga is full of shit.
“He's calling for unity, and greatness. Good call.”
He should, because after his American Carnage speech he has to appear less negative and project a positive direction for the country. Sadly it’s mere pandering to those who were no longer supportive of his style and policies.
I doubt the U.S. murder rate would be significantly reduced at all if a wall were built. Which is to say, the "threat" of murderous illegal immigrants laying waste to Americans is bullshit, pure fear-mongering.
Said by a man who lives nowhere even close to the southern border. My four months on a grand jury here in AZ has shown me otherwise.
Recent study found illegals were arrested for 10% of murders in Texas over a 6-7 year period. I think that is a damn high and material % of murders.
My husband and I always think the SOTU reaction shots are going to work in political ads; they seldom do. But the bloc of Women In White looking so very p-o'ed... that might. Bad call, Dem women of Congress.
Why, oh why, Democrats, do you insist on your lockstep? I truly want to know if it's possible to be a politically engaged lefty and happy at the same time; doesn't the pressure of wondering whether you're sufficiently ideologically pure get in the way? Yeah, righties have our shibboleths, but I really don't think we spend as much time ruminating over doctrine as those on the left.
(Inga... Alley Oop! - I missed your change of handle, some time ago. What's the Alley Oop! part for? I'm curious.)
Robert Cook: "Did he mention that we had Allies in WWII, all of whom had been fighting the war before we joined it, who helped win the war and liberate the concentration camps? We didn't build that by ourselves."
Some of our WW2 allies had even been on the other side when the war started!
(Actually, your comment makes no sense at all -- except as an example of pointless creebing.)
"I think that is partisan wishful thinking on your part, and true only to an extent because of the huge size of the denominator. On a per capital basis, illegals appear to be significantly more violent and more willing to commit crimes (excluding the crime of being here illegally) than the general public, and esp when contrasted to legal immigrants."
Had this been shown by studies? What do the stats show regarding rates of murder of American citizens by illegal immigrants as compared with rates of murder of American citizens by their fellow citizens?
"Actually, your comment makes no sense at all."
Really? It's very simple. America did not win WWII. The victory was achieved by the combined efforts of many nations. If one nation can be given the lion's share of defeating the German army, (the major member of the Axis powers), that would be Russia.
Cookie, even if it could be shown that illegals don't commit proportionately more crimes than those here legally, it is a fact that we have enough crime of our own and shouldn't have to process, adjudicate and incarcerate Mexican nationals by the thousands.
And data show that, at least in AZ, illegals commit twice as many felonies as legal residents.
26% in Federal prison are illegal aliens. That is one of the very few hard facts the gov't produces about illegals, because it is inconvenient to Democrats to have the truth out there. Some say the total for illegal Mexicans in US prisons is just over 12%.
Question for those claiming low crime among "immigrants" is, do you believe the stats on prison, and if so, how do you account for such a high number of illegals in prison for violent crime? They seem, whats the progressive term, OVERREPRESENTED in prison by virtue of the numbers relative to the general population.
Blogger AJ Lynch said...
Recent study found illegals were arrested for 10% of murders in Texas over a 6-7 year period. I think that is a damn high and material % of murders.
Blogger Mike said...
26% in Federal prison are illegal aliens. That is one of the very few hard facts the gov't produces about illegals, because it is inconvenient to Democrats to have the truth out there.
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Yep..many states don't keep/tally stats regarding immigration status.
Similarly, the census running blind in the same way precludes us from knowing that data either.
CNN had Sinbad providing color commentary on SOTU.
No joke
EGAU!
Emergency Gynae Ambulatory Unit?
If one nation can be given the lion's share of defeating the German army, (the major member of the Axis powers), that would be Russia.
How? There was no nation called Russia when Germany was defeated. You must be thinking of, and praising, the USSR... which is completely unsurprising. Do you think the USSR would have entered the war as an ally if they had not been invaded by Germany?
Did he mention that we had Allies in WWII, all of whom had been fighting the war before we joined it, who helped win the war and liberate the concentration camps? We didn't build that by ourselves.
Germany would have won WW II in Europe without the intervention of the United States. The financial and material support provided by the United States to the USSR and Great Britain are the only things that allowed them to survive until the arrival of US troops which allowed them to defeat the Germans.
@Cook,
Really? It's very simple. America did not win WWII. The victory was achieved by the combined efforts of many nations. If one nation can be given the lion's share of defeating the German army, (the major member of the Axis powers), that would be Russia.
Your're joking right?
As Gahrie notes above, the Soviets (not Russia) helped START WWII by uniting with the Nazis to invade Poland.
Great Britain had no chance to defeat the Nazis - strong Navy, but weak-ass army. They were good at propandana, turning the Dunkirk retreat into the "Miracle at Dunkirk"
Finally, after the Nazis and Soviets carved up Europe between 1939-1941, the Germans then invaded the USSR. But the Commies ONLY survived, because we redirected most of our aid from England to the USSR to save their bacon.
The only thing you are correct about is that the Eastern Front was the most brutal, and Yes, the Soviets took the bulk of the casualties.
If the US stays out, the Nazis easily take over Europe, including Moscow.
Yes, the US didn't do it alone (nobody asserts that), but we did the lion's share.
Hypothetical: And if America wasn't part of that, imagine what USSR would have done if they have been deemed winner
swap Marshall Plan for something quite different
"Hypothetical: And if America wasn't part of that, imagine what USSR would have done if they have been deemed winner"
It's what we call American Exceptionalism, and no, Obama, Greece doesn't do that.
"United States gave over $12 billion (nearly $100 billion in 2016 US dollars)"
Also you used plural re contemporary Ds.
Oh, Virginia's contemporary Attorney General, Mark Herring (D, of course), admits that he too went out in public wearing blackface during the 1980's.
I didn't watch the speech, but simply by reading Inga's juvenile, sneering rage on this post reveals to me it was a good one.
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