January 22, 2019

"Trump gets just 41 or 42% in head to head match ups against 7 likely Democratic candidates for President."

"He trails Joe Biden 53-41, Bernie Sanders 51-41, Kamala Harris 48-41, Beto O’Rourke 47-41, Elizabeth Warren 48-42, and Cory Booker and Kirsten Gillibrand each 47-42."

PPP polls. (Full results here.)

Also in the poll: 45% think "members of Donald Trump’s campaign team worked in association with Russia to help Trump win the election for President." 43% say no. And 45% "think that Donald Trump has committed any crimes since he began running for President." 41% say no.

There's also a series of "Who do you trust more: X or Donald Trump?" where X is an MSM outlet. Trump loses every matchup, even against Fox News.

190 comments:

JaimeRoberto said...

The propaganda is working.

Matt Sablan said...

Obligatory how'd that work for Clinton?

Matt Sablan said...

Actually I don't think she did as well in polls as some of these.

alanc709 said...

Polling is dead, in my mind. I get constant calls from polling firms, because I still have a landline. I refuse to participate. If I'm not an outlier, it must be extremely hard to get more conservative viewers in a poll to respond, which leaves the poll hopelessly skewed.

Big Mike said...

[shrug]

Mark Jones said...

I haven't seen the polls, and I don't need to see them. Any polls reported in the media are propaganda, nothing more. Maybe--MAYBE--the polls the politicians commission for their own internal use have more validity (though I doubt it), but the polls published for the public to see? Battle space prep and propaganda, nothing more.

So I don't believe a fucking word. I know who I trust and who I don't, and these polls have it exactly backwards.

Jim at said...

It's January 22, 2019.
Let's predict what's going to happen on November 3, 2020.

Dave Begley said...

Howard Schultz ex-CEO of Starbucks is running and not as a Dem. When he announces, the polls better start asking that question.

Browndog said...

Didn't I read today that AOC would win the Presidential nominee hands down among dems if she were old enough?

I think I did.

mccullough said...

Trump’s got them right where he wants them.

The Dem Primaru version of The Apprentice is underway. Which of these contestants will Trump choose as his opponent?

iowan2 said...

Don't believe any of these polls. They weight them until the person buying the poll gets what they want.

Browndog said...

All polls affirm the liberal agenda. Without fail. No matter what.

I'm Full of Soup said...

And he is a billionaire meaning his existence is immoral so

Shouting Thomas said...

As reliable as the news about the Catholic boys.

I think we're overdue to hear from you, prof, about the potential angle of the rage attack the Dems are about to launch against Judge Amy Barrett.

Looks like we're in the prelims? What will be the Dem's line of attack?

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Looks like some people are seeing the light, or the writing on the wall.

Yancey Ward said...

LMAO. 50% of the public couldn't identify any of those people by name, much less by photograph, except for Joe Biden and probably Bernie Sanders, and even Biden would be unidentified by a quarter or more despite being VP for 8 years. Hell, 50% of the population couldn't identify Mike Pence right now by name or picture.

Polls like this are worthless because you are asking people to choose between an incumbent and someone the pollee has no current or even old information on.

LYNNDH said...

I don't believe the polls either. It is amazing that Trump polls in the 40's considering all the flak sent his way.
Having said that, I don't think he will win either. I hope I am wrong. My wife reminds me I didn't think Trump would win in '16.
The idea of a President Harris is truly frightening. I have a new governor that is very far left and a statehouse that is all controlled by the Dems. Shit city.

Shouting Thomas said...

@Inga

The stoolies are eventually fed to the alligators, too.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Who was it that said House Republicans would top 60 after the 2018 midterms? Who said there would be a blue wave?

Unknown said...

Hell who is going to talk to anyone that might doxx them? You think polling has been bad now, wait until all republicans are force to wear the big red R on their jackets.

Drago said...

Inga: "Looks like some people are seeing the light, or the writing on the wall."

LOL

Inga ran screaming away from the Baker/FBI thread faster than you can say "LLR Chuck loves dems"!

Maybe the "writing on the wall" was put there by Comey and Brennan........

Darrell said...

No Borders. No Wall. No America at all.

You'd have to be stupid to vote for a Democrat ever.

Tyrone Slothrop said...

Trump will win in 2020 by a significantly larger margin than in 2016. You may quote me.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Drago, some of us have better things to do than wrestle pigs in the mud.

Drago said...

Inga: "Who was it that said House Republicans would top 60 after the 2018 midterms? Who said there would be a blue wave?"

"Mueller closing in!!!", hoax golden dossier and Merkel/Macron/May/Trudeau(!) are the New Leaders of the Free World gal chimes in!!

Discuss.

Drago said...

Inga: "Drago, some of us have better things to do than wrestle pigs in the mud."

Indeed, your lefty allies are preparing to give blow jobs to people who will go an punch innocent high schoolers in the face.

Drago said...

Other lefty allies are busy calling for Israel's destruction and calling Farrakhan a great man.

So yeah Inga. Team Left/LLR is quite busy.

Lucid-Ideas said...

Poll me once, shame on you. Poll me twice, shame on me. Poll me three times baby, two for tomorrow, one just for today. Poll me three times, I'm going away.

madAsHell said...

"I suppose you're all wondering why I'm not up by 50 points in the polls."

iowan2 said...

I'm with alanc. I still have a land line because it comes with tv and internet for free. Never answer it. Listen to messages at nite. This conservative has never been polled. Horoscopes are in the the paper too, just like polls, and are also there for entertainment only.

hombre said...

The leftmediaswine will be selecting all our electeds by 2020; 2024 at the latest. The Democrat coalition of feminists, ethnics, journalists, academics, genitalia voters and children of all ages is beyond moronic.

Jim at said...

Losing Senate seats and replacing 40 Republican retirements in a normal correction is considered a blue wave by some.

mccullough said...

Most Americans have no idea who Biden is. He’s do fine in a general election. But he and Bernie and Beto are going to be trashed as White Boy Oppressors.

White Men don’t vote in Dem primaries.

rcocean said...

Several points:

1) Trump lost by x million of votes in California - and he'll lose California by X million of votes in 2020. but it doesn't matter whether he loses the state by 1 vote or 5 million.

2) The same if true of Hawaii, NY, New England, and almost every "Blue State". No Republican is going to win them - ever. Unless the R's nominate Kamala Harris.

3) All that matters is how Trump is doing in the swing states. Frankly, I'm not optimistic. The D's are willing cheat, and the MSM is willing to Lie.

4) But then I thought Trump would lose big-time in 2016.

Bay Area Guy said...

The polls are weak, Dems will lap it up.

It's good to look at the Electoral Map. Ohio is back to solid red; Florida is marginally red.

That gives Trump 260 Electoral votes - needs 10 more to win.

Penn, Mich, Wisc or Minn -- Trump wins one of these, he wins in 2020.

Original Mike said...

"45% think "members of Donald Trump’s campaign team worked in association with Russia to help Trump win the election for President.""

So I guess 45% know what Mueller knows. Or something.

bagoh20 said...

A lot of people were favored over Trump until he got to work on them. The question is: will he run out of names for them all as each one steps into the ring.

n.n said...

All things considered, Trump performs remarkably well in a Democrat-oriented poll.

I'm Full of Soup said...

I'm with Rcocean especially on cheating etc,

PA's far left liberal Dem governor has proposed same day voter registration, mail in voting , early voting., etc and I suspect the Repub legislature will cave in on these things like all good RINO's tend to do.

The Philadelphia area alone probably has 40-50,000 out of state college students and many will be eager to "stretch" their interpretation of voter laws to justify their voting in PA election and who do you think they will vote for?

Chuck said...

So while Drago continues with his obsession with trying to paint me as a Democratic operative, I will happily point out to the few remaining non-psychopathic Althouse readers that Public Policy Polling out of North Carolina is a noted contractor for Democrats across the country. So take with the appropriate grain of salt.

I have dealt with PPP before - adversarially - and they sometimes do polling like this without a retainer; that is, it may not have been a WaPo or an MSNBC or a DCCC that paid for it. PPP does them for fun, and to promote PPP. They get massive attention, when a hundred or a thousand Althouses all link to it.

mockturtle said...

IIRC, 'Polls' predicted Hillary's win.

rcocean said...

Since 1932, a majority of the USA voters have been morons, who despartely want to vote the D's as President. They voted for FDR. They Voted for Truman. Then:

1952: D's get us in Korean War - Ike elected
1960: Thank God we got a D back as President
1964: Woo Hoo All the way with LBJ!
1968: Vietnam war, riots, inflation - guess I'll vote for Nixon
1976: Thank God we got a D back as President.
1980: Recession. Interest Rate in double digits. Iran hostages. Guess I'll vote for Reagan.
1992: Thank God we got a D back as President!
2000: Gore is an awful candidate. Guess I'll vote for Bush
2008: Thank God we got a D back as President!
2016: Hilllary is so bad - Guess I'll vote for Trump

bagoh20 said...

There is a percentage of people who willingly participate in these polls. For whatever reason, the percentages are not the same for all types of people. How do you think that percentage among Trump supporters compares to anti-Trumpers? Without adjusting for that, the polls are useless, so they are useless, especially 2 years out.

Wince said...

President Pee-Pee Tape owns a polling firm?

bagoh20 said...

How can a modern Hitler even get 1%? Something smells here.

Drago said...

Self-admitted Smear Merchant and Attacker of Conservative Children Chuck: "So while Drago continues with his obsession with trying to paint me as a Democratic operative..."

I have never labeled you a democratic operative. Frankly, you aren't qualified to be an operative.

However, you are completely and totally 100% operationally aligned with the left, and you likely always have been.

How you choose to label yourself is irrelevant.

Drago said...

LLR Chuck: "I have dealt with PPP before - adversarially -....."

LOLOLOL

Good one.

doctrev said...

Fox News will be completely destroyed the day they seriously speak against Trump, and they know it. Yes, they host Cavuto, Shep, and Ben Shapiro: that is not because they are popular. It is because they are being shills. If Dems don't improve in industrial states, and it may already be too late after that trade deal which HUMILIATED Clinton/ Obama, then this thing is over. No matter what nonsense the polls contain. The "blue wave" failed where it counted: there will be more uncucked Senators. A new SC judge. And a lot of people facing judgement.

The really stupid part is that the media insists Trump is thin-skinned, desperate for popularity, etc... but no serious person thinks he will end the shutdown outside his terms. The Dems haven't started losing yet.

But they will.

Quaestor said...

Drago, some of us have better things to do than wrestle pigs in the mud.

Says the mudslinging sow.

Mike Sylwester said...

In 2020, our President Trump will win all the same states he won in 2016. Plus, he might win two states he almost won in 2016 -- Minnesota and New Hampshire.

The key is that Carter Page will remain free to travel internationally through 2020. As Page did in 2016, he will travel between the Trump Tower and the Kremlin. When he travels to the Kremlin, he will carry instructions about which states to target with Facebook ads.

People living in the targeted swing states will see a lot of Facebook ads that show Jesus arm-wrestling Kamala Harris (or whomever). Such Facebook ads will affect the votes just as effectively in 2020 as they did in 2016.

Birkel said...

Yeah, I am the one who calls you a Leftist shill.
What's a person have to do to get some fopdoodle extraordinaire love?
Can you not love me as much as you do Rachel Maddow or Dick Blumenthal?

Drago said...

Mike Sylvester: "In 2020, our President Trump will win all the same states he won in 2016. Plus, he might win two states he almost won in 2016 -- Minnesota and New Hampshire"

I do not believe Trump will win in PA due to the expected 17,000% turnout in the Philly precincts.

Drago said...

Alas Birkel, you could never be as "masterful" as Lawrence O'Donnell in LLR Chuck-DemLoveWorld.

narciso said...

You want a hot take straight off the griddle:

https://thebulwark.com/is-it-manly-to-use-a-bunch-of-kids-to-own-the-libs/

"You ask for a miracle, theo, I give you the bulwinkle

Chuck said...


Blogger Inga...Allie Oop said...
Who was it that said House Republicans would top 60 after the 2018 midterms? Who said there would be a blue wave?


It was Achilles who said that Republicans would hold a big 60-seat majority following the 2018 midterm election. I begged him for a bet on that. Repeatedly, I proposed terms for him to put money on it. He wouldn’t do it. So while Achilles is a trash talking pussy weasel, he’s not a completely stupid trash talking pussy weasel.

So he’s got that goin’ for him. Which is nice.

Drago said...

LLR Chuck's favorite leftist radical billionaire-funded and FusionGPS colluding LLR's at the Bulwark (LOL) have really outdone themselves with that one, haven't they narciso?

narciso said...

I know I'm paraphrasing hans gruber from die hard, to illustrate the facepalm of the kristol braintrust,

Drago said...

You can just feel the warmth shared between LLR Chuck and far left lunatic hack Inga.

2 kindred spirits destined to find each other......

Drago said...

Perhaps we should start a pool to see which conservative LLR Chuck will smear next and then a secondary pool to see how long before Inga jumps aboard the LLR Chuck Smear Express.

We could call it the Leftist/LLR Exacta.

Mike Sylwester said...

During the debates, our President Trump will smack around the Democrat candidate.

For example, if the Democrat candidate is Kamala Harris, Trump's first question will be whether she ever has talked with anyone at the Kasowitz Benson Torres law firm.

Harris will squirm visibly and will stutter a nervous response.

In the second and third debates, Trump will ask her again whether she ever has talked with anyone at the Kasowitz Benson Torres law firm.

Harris again will blatantly seem to be evading the question.

The electorate will be watch and will wonder whether Harris is trustworthy enough to be President if she cannot say clearly whether she ever has talked with anyone at the Kasowitz Benson Torres law firm.

narciso said...

Now except for Carlson (who is disdainful of trump's methods) dobbs and Hannity, most of the fox management is in the wet tory grip of the Murdoch boys, who are driving the network into a tail spin, so it can accommodate European minitrue strategies,

Drago said...

I'd like to see Trump debate Harris just to see the gyrations LLR Chuck will put himself thru as he tries to convince everyone that a vote for Harris is the "true conservative" position!

LOL

Did anyone catch the LLR's hot takes on Kamala yesterday? Oh how the LLR's respect her.....

...after all, she isn't an icky conservative high school student....

tim maguire said...

I'm sure Trump is quaking in his boots looking at those numbers.

William said...

The MSM gets to frame the Overton window. It's a guilt edged frame, and most people are embarrassed to admit their support for Donald Trump. There's a reverse Bradley effect with Trump.......Still, Trump knows how to frame the window with gilt. That's how he used to make his living. If the economy is strong, he will be framed with gold and win the election. He's got his own handle on the hermeneutics.

SteveR said...

Simply put, if Joe Biden is consideration then it’s all a freaking joke.

Drago said...

William: "If the economy is strong, he will be framed with gold and win the election."

Powell and the Fed are currently working to see if they can knock down growth significantly before 2020 by continuing to raise interest rates to protect us from that Demon (though non-existent) inflation.

As even Cramer on CNBC said of Powell: What the hell are you doing??!!!

elkh1 said...

He got less than 10 pts chances of winning 2016 against Hillary.
Go figure.

If there is a recession, he probably will lose. If the economy is humming, he will win.

It's still the economy, stupid.

OTOH, he should really think before he tweets. It is fun to punch your Fake Media enemies in the face, figuratively. But it is irritating for a president to punch waaaay down every time the brainless few speak.

Drago said...

SteveR: "Simply put, if Joe Biden is consideration then it’s all a freaking joke."

That would also be a fun matchup just to see how LLR Chuck threads the needle in defending Biden's 5 deferrments and accusing republicans of wanting to put African-Americans back in chains while Chuck simultaneously attacks Trump.

Chuck said...


Blogger mockturtle said...
IIRC, 'Polls' predicted Hillary's win.


I help your recollection out here.

The national polling average had Hillary with an advantage of about 3.2%. And she won the national popular vote by about 2.1%. The polling was, in a word, within the margin of error and within about a percentage point of absolute accuracy.

No single poll could have predicted victory for either candidate. You’d need 50 state polls to do that; more, with the Nebraska and Maine quirks.

Drago said...

#StrongDemNarrativeBooster Chuck: "And she won the national popular vote by about 2.1%. The polling was, in a word, within the margin of error and within about a percentage point of absolute accuracy."

LOL

Hint: We don't elect Presidents by "national popular vote"....a phrase suddenly made quite famous after Trumps win by constant repetition on the left.....and LLR's....

Birkel said...

Chuck, disinvited racist fopdoodle:

All that polling is true for the three day window before the election.
But the window ten days before that had Hillary up as many as 14 with a median advantage of 8.

Defend the press again, Democrat shill boy.

narciso said...

well it's always a risk, Volcker did torpedo carter, greenspan's first bout, did impact countries in the southern cone, and his second popped the subprime bubble,

Rabel said...

"24% of respondents who did not have landlines conducted the survey over the internet through an opt-in internet panel"

If you scroll way down to the break-outs by phone/internet you'll see that the "opt-in" internet demo is ridiculously at variance with the phone polling.

It's a deliberate effort to mislead. It's PPP.

Drago said...

It's not a good day for Chuck when his newest lefty hero, Nathan Philips is exposed as having a Da Nang Dick Blumenthal problem........

Yikes!

That's the kind of inconvenient truth that could send Chuck back into the bottle!

Leland said...

The polls on Nov. 7, 2016 said Trump would lose too. Just last week, Buzzfeed suggested that campaigns could get media groups to influence poll results without anyone possibly knowing until a criminal investigation might expose it. Where would they get such an idea? Twitter just suspended the account that started this Covington student controversy, which appeared to be a California teacher but now is reported by CNN as a Brazilian based blogger. That account was able to fool journalist across the US of various political persuasions. And Fox News put up a graphic showing RBG had died.

If the media told me the sun would come up tomorrow; I'd read Althouse's blog and comment section before considering the media might be onto something. And then, I would still wait 48 hours to see if any new information came out.

Curious George said...

"Inga...Allie Oop said...
Drago, some of us have better things to do than wrestle pigs in the mud."

Says the pig and the mud.

Skeptical Voter said...

Lots of polls. But for POTUSA, there's only one poll that counts. Trump won the one that counts. Who knows how he will do in the next poll that counts in November 2020.


Meantime, don't nibble on my ankle with these various poll results. Or nibble on my ankle, but don't exect me to believe them.

Chuck said...

Drago I still have no idea why Althouse does nothing to police all of the miserable low grade clutter you post here.

Post after post after obsessive post.

Knock yourself out, bro.

Big Mike said...

Biden at 53%? Well, then, let’s send his staff over to the White House to measure for drapes. Let the manufacturer have 24 months’ lead time, you see. But! Was the poll taken before ads showing him perving on young girls? Or after? Just askin’

Quaestor said...

Pud pulling perverts polling polesmokers.

Clyde said...

Fake polls.

narciso said...

I was going to compare phillips to Churchill, but apparently Churchill did serve with the lurp unit, so he had that going for him, despite his subsequent anti American bout,

as nigel tufnel put it 'there is a thin line between clever and stupid' and this is the line that too many white toga conservatives seem to abide by,

Gk1 said...

MS has pegged this race correctly. Wait until super secret spy Carter Page flies to Prague to get his marching orders from Putin to spend another 100k on facebook ads showing viral videos of kids lighting their farts and cute cat videos. Kamala Harris won't know what hit her!

I'm Full of Soup said...

What do you think of when you think of Bill Kristol and his pals. I think of a phony, beta boy, a suckup, a .RINO. Yet they named their new paper The Bulwark. That is defined as a defensive wall, rampart, fortification, parapet, stockade, palisade, barricade, a person, institution, or principle that acts as a defense....."the security forces are a bulwark against the breakdown of society".

Those are the last things I think of when I think of the Kristol RINO's. The sole exception is Kevin Williamson.

Too funny.

walter said...

Need a poll on who answers polls.

Birkel said...

Chuck, disinvited racist fopdoodle, still defends the polls.
But why were the polls "corrected" right before the election?
Why were they systematically biased by 5-6% toward Democrats in the week before the election?

Obvious answer:
Polls far from an election are meant to shape - not report - the news.

Chuck defends the Leftist press.
Water carrying fuck-o.

Birkel said...

Bulwarks are immoral.
-Nancy Pelosi

Bulwarks are dumb.
-Elizabeth Warren

Bulwarks don't work.
-Chuck Schumer

Drago said...

Self-Admitted Smear Merchant and Exposed Dem Defender Chuck: "Post after post after obsessive post."

Hey, Althouse allows all sorts of posters here, including racist, sekf-admitted smear merchant attackers (via rumor) of children..such as yourself.

Quite frankly I dont know why Althouse allows such a bad actor as yourself to continue posting here under a false flag without asking you to self-deport...er...oh wait.

Thats right. Now I remember....

LOL

narciso said...

I think it's about time, but we saw the company bureaucracy saw this, well certain officials who leaked to Bergen and mayer and shane and isikoff

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/senators-want-captured-isis-fighters-sent-to-guantanamo-bay-prison-camp/

Bay Area Guy said...

The purpose of the PPP polling is to provide fodder for negative "news" stories to demoralize Trump's base and suppress voter fall-out.

Don't fall for it.

2020 will be a close vote, just like in 2016. At this early point, Trump probably has a slightly less than 50% shot at winning. But once he gets to pound on the flawed Demo nominee, it'll get to 50-50 - as long as the economy stays strong.

Bottom line: no worrying about Trump's reelection chances. Just gotta grind it out, steady and slow.

narciso said...

codevilla who has been in naval intel, the company and capitol hill offers some wisdom,

https://www.hoover.org/research/european-defense

robother said...

Yeah, telling some anonymous guy who calls out of the blue that you support Trump. Why not just doxx yourself on a SJW website and get it over with? After all the MAGA hat hatred, how a Dem-leaning polling firm like PPP gets to 40% is a tribute to how naive most older Americans are about the nature of the threats they face from the Left.

Drago said...

robother: "After all the MAGA hat hatred, how a Dem-leaning polling firm like PPP gets to 40% is a tribute to how naive most older Americans are about the nature of the threats they face from the Left."

And the lefts LLR allies...who are now legion.

whitney said...

Blogger robother said...
"Yeah, telling some anonymous guy who calls out of the blue that you support Trump. Why not just doxx yourself on a SJW website and get it over with? After all the MAGA hat hatred, how a Dem-leaning polling firm like PPP gets to 40% is a tribute to how naive most older Americans are about the nature of the threats they face from the Left."

Yep. I don't know anyone that would tell a pollster the truth and I think most people would intentionally mislead them. I know I would. We went from a high trust Society to a low trust Society very fast but some people haven't caught up yet. But the last couple of days let us know that the media and the elites would like to dash the heads of infant whites against the Rocks so take that as you will

Big Mike said...

I do find it funny that Biden’s latest speech can be interpreted as a slap against Obamacare. You’d think he’d be a bit more loyal to his old boss.

narciso said...

every single time, they paint a target, the laser points back to them:

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/22/eric-greitens-kim-gardner-perjury/

Gk1 said...

This is like fantasy football draft draws in March. Who the hell cares? I'd be a little worried if they showed Trump running away with it. I expect his chances will dramatically improve if he runs against the stroke victim Biden or Willie Brown's side piece Kamala. In the mean time, I am having too much fun watching the democrats shut down the govt. so they can keep illegals flooding over the border to depress wages of the poor and help out Armour Hot dog meat packing plants.

chickelit said...

I'm not surprised at the poll numbers. It's all the Dems have right now: hypotheticals.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Drago-18 comments already...manic Tuesday.

Birkel said...

Drago
Drago
Ivan Drago
Ivan Drago
Drago

Fen said...

Don't forget Hillary at 95%.

Hari said...

All it will take is another $100,000 in Russian FB ads to turn this around for Trump.

Henry said...

These are the polls that say no impeachment necessary.

pacwest said...

"It's still the economy, stupid."

Three things to watch:

The wall. If Trump gets at least some of it built he will hold his base. Note the Hispanic numbers on this too.

Trade with China. Trump is working from a strong position on this. A win here, assuming anyone actually hears about it on the MSM, is huge for the economy.

NK. If Trump can pull this one off there will be no way to hide it. But-- party before country, right Chuck?

Drago said...

Inga: "Drago-18 comments already...manic Tuesday."

Inga, fleeing the Baker/FBI thread...for all the obvious reasons.

What else would one expect of a big-time Wonans March fan.....and yes, that would be the anti-semitic Wonans March/Pro-Farrakhan crew throughout its leadership.

Fen said...

"All it will take is another $100,000 in Russian FB ads to turn this around for Trump"

Vack to ze Boiler Room, Comrade. Ve haf much vork to do

Fen said...

"What else would one expect of a big-time Wonans March fan."

It helps to think of Inga and Chuck as "composite" characters created to argue the insane and generate page views and clicks. They are puppets. And puppets have strings...

Ever wonndered why they are allowed to abuse the other guests with such impunity?

Fen said...

Muh Principles

FullMoon said...

Obligatory for the new or casual reader unfamiliar with (titty twister) Chuck:


Chuck said...

"I am afraid you are mistaking me for someone who has an interest in fair treatment of Donald Trump. I'm not your guy. I am interested in smearing him, hurting him and prejudicing people against him."

3/4/16, 4:46 PM

FullMoon said...

A BLAST from the Past

Ann Althouse said...

Inga, you said something awful and got people talking, then you published — what? — 16 MORE COMMENTS JUSTIFYING YOURSELF.

It makes NO SENSE for one person to publish so many comments in a thread. You said something that sounded hateful and really wrong to me and to many other people, and yet you don't apologize, you just keep responding, comment after comment, as if you've got a lot to say and it's really interesting. Show some goddamn restraint.

7/23/18, 3:38 PM

MayBee said...

So if Elizabeth Warren wins and I hate that fact with ferocity, will I be given as much respectful press as the women's marchers and the resistance?

Fernandinande said...

Trump was disrespectful toward the Native American elder Fauxcahontas Manygenes.

John Pickering said...

Many of Ann's readers, who boast that they don't read: "Polls are stupid."

Ash heap of history, in real time.



Birkel said...

John Pickering,
And that is why President Hillary is about to nominate RGB's replacement.

Run along now.

Temujin said...

Polls. Got it.

Known Unknown said...

"House Republicans would top 60"

Well, there are more than 60 House Republicans, Inga.

narciso said...

Which is why the Lincoln memorial ambush.

tim in vermont said...

Blogger John Pickering said...
Many of Ann's readers, who boast that they don't read


????

tim in vermont said...

This must be the commenter boasting he doesn’t read, from another thread:

I haven’t read a fictional novel, or indeed almost any book but history, science, and biography for a decade now.

Drago said...

And now we have reports that LLR Chuck's newest Stolen Valor Dem hero, Nathan Philips, attempted to disrupt a catholic church service.

I cant wait to see how LLR Chuck, the gang at National Review and the openly allied with lefties cucks at the Cuckly Bulwark Standard try to spin this and blame it on Trump.

https://dc-chronicle.com/2019/01/22/nathan-phillips-attempted-disrupt-mass-dcs-national-shrine/

John Pickering said...

that's a good catch, tim, I should have written many of ann's commenters, who boast that they don't read widely, say xxx
Many of Ann's readers agree that it's better to have a Russian intelligence asset in the Oval Office than to have Hillary as President. Many think it's Hillary that's the traitor. Trump's lies and crimes will bring him down, sometime soon, or hopefully sooner. And those that defended his lies and crimes will bear the yellow stain of the coward and traitor, and deserve the infamy that history will heap upon them. Ann, you still got a chance.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Mike S @ 5:08 - LOL! perfect.

Big Mike said...

Instead of pooh-poohing the polls, I plan to use them to motivate me to help Donald Trump win re-election. I plan to contribute my time and money to help him win. People reading this thread, and who like what Trump has done with the American economy, in negotiations with North Korea, in the Middle East, in improving job prospects for minorities, in wage growth for the middle class, in improving our military readiness, and so on, I urge you to fo the same.

Drago said...

The US has begun exporting oil for the first time in our lifetimes and the US is exporting natural gas to Europe and the US is now the largest energy producer in the world.

Putin, Pickering and the LLR pansies hardest hit.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Latest Covington Catholic video from the Lincoln Memorial incident on Friday has surfaced where one of the students yells, "It's not rape if you enjoy it!"

Those Covington boys, just a bunch of choirboys...

SeanF said...

Her very next tweet, Inga - "Don't know if this boy attends Covington..."

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

LOL Inga- read the toxic shit spewing from Amee Vanderpool in your link.

She's not sure if it's a Covington student- but Oh well. Guilty anyway.

The desperation of lying leftwing cunts.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Ugly lying leftwing cunts.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Catholic high school boys heckled a woman BEFORE confrontation with Native American protesters and shouted 'make America great again' and 'build the wall', according to victim who filmed the incident

“Boys from Covington Catholic High School heckled two women near the Lincoln Memorial before they faced off with Native American protesters, one of the women has claimed.

Twitter user Linds, who took video of the incident, said she and a friend were walking past a group of Covington students on Friday when they began shouting 'MAGA' and 'build the wall' out of nowhere.

The footage stands at odds with claims by Nick Sandmann, the teen filmed going eye-to-eye with Vietnam war veteran Nathan Philips, who said the boys were minding their own business waiting for a bus home before being provoked into an altercation.”

Drago said...

#IngaOnlyReadsHeadlines

FullMoon said...

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Latest Covington Catholic video from the Lincoln Memorial incident on Friday has surfaced where one of the students yells, "It's not rape if you enjoy it!"

Those Covington boys, just a bunch of choirboys...,,,,,


What if he did? So what? Reason to destroy a kid's life? Doxxing ok, ms D.?

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Inga- did you actually watch that video? I did. You cannot even tell what the group are saying, or who the group is comprised of. Is that your evidence? If os, it's pretty weak.

Oh well - gotta find the desperate evidence so that you leftwinger hiveminders can hurl death threats at some teenage boys who went to a pro-life march.

Drago said...

LOL

You just knew Inga would fall for the next hoax!

And who is this linds gal?

Well, just a gal who likes to use the N-word over and over and whose twitter feed reveals a compulsion for insulting blacks, asians and mexicans!!!

Great job Inga!!

But wait, it gets even better!!

"War hero" Nathan Phillips never served in vietnam, was not a "recon ranger" (there is no such thing, Rangers are Army), and was trained as a refrigerator mechanic.

Wait for it.....wait for it....

....un 4 years of service he went AWOL 3 times.

The good news? It was only 3 times!

LOL

#IngaOnlyReadsHeadlines

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Now a new video clip has surfaced that shows a student in the group making an ugly comment about rape that he probably thinks is a clever joke. On the video the student can be heard saying “It’s not rape if you enjoy it!” while others gasp or laugh.

“While this short clip doesn’t show the students from the other, now infamous ‘MAGA Teen’ video, a longer video of the incident shows that the student making the rape comment is part of the same group of students who gathered at the Lincoln Memorial when all this ridiculous bullsh*t went down and is presumably a student at Covington Catholic. (The comment comes at the 13:40 mark.)”

Drago said...

I should add, Phillips went AWOL 3 times during his arduous service at El Toro Marine Base in Los Angeles.

My God, no wonder he is so cynical and jaded after seeing so much death and destruction.....but enough about what happens at the homes of major dem donors.....LOL

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

The kids must be destroyed. That's all there is to it.

Drago said...
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Drago said...

The party of Harvey Weinstein would really like for you to focus on high schoolers...


Discuss.

chuck said...

Did they poll him against Hillary?

Drago said...

The party of Keith Ellison beating the crap out of his girlfriend would like for you to focus on high schoolers.

Discuss.

n.n said...

Deep Plumber will need to work overtime, to clear the sewage spilt from Water Closet.

Drago said...

The party of "spark of divinity" MS13 machete murderers would like for you to focus on high schoolers.
Discuss.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

From inga's link

"A lifetime ago –wait– three days ago, a video emerged of a group of MAGA hat-wearing teens from Covington Catholic High School hooting and shouting while surrounding an indigenous protester. The video was seen by many as a clear example of right wing bigotry, racism, and hate.


It's the same old BS story.
The left refuse to buy anything except these boys are criminals. Proof be damned.
The left cannot watch the long versions of events. Only short little clips of things that contain zero context.

now there a short clip of a young adult who may or may not be part of Covington, saying a joke about "It's not rape if you enjoy it."
We don't have context because the segment is only a few seconds.

Awesome!

Drago said...

Nathan Phillips, fake democrat "war hero" attempted to disrupt catholic mass at the capital.

So, you know, lets destroy some more high schoolers and threaten them with death.

Said every lefty everywhere.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

From Inga's link

"A lifetime ago –wait– three days ago, a video emerged of a group of MAGA hat-wearing teens from Covington Catholic High School hooting and shouting while surrounding an indigenous protester. The video was seen by many as a clear example of right wing bigotry, racism, and hate.

Others claimed the video was misleading, pointing to longer videos of the incident and saying the interpretations of the students behavior and motivations was incorrect (an explanation that most weren’t buying.)


Drago said...

#IngaOnlyReadsHeadlines

Drago said...

The good news is now LLR Chuck will have another Stolen Valor dem to support!

Drago said...

So, to summarize the left: Bowe Berhdahl (deserter) and Nathan Phillips (3x AWOL) = Heroes.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...
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Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

From Inga's link:
"A lifetime ago –wait– three days ago, a video emerged of a group of MAGA hat-wearing teens from Covington Catholic High School hooting and shouting while surrounding an indigenous protester. The video was seen by many as a clear example of right wing bigotry, racism, and hate.

Refusal to get off the narrative. Wow.
The boys were waiting and the drummer emerged with a camera person and got right in their faces. The boys never surrounded the drummer.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

"It's not rape if you enjoy it."

That is a goofy thing to say but, A) So what?
B) it also sounds like a response to something.
C) if the video is spliced to remove all the context out, your motives are suspect.


Where is the context? Why is the clip clipped?

Static Ping said...

Do remember that in elections you do not need to outrun the bear, you only need to outrun the person next to you. That's more or less how Trump was elected in the first place.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

We can depend on leftwing liars to find out if the kid who said "It's not rape if you enjoy it" goes to Covington.

If so - you leftwingers can destroy his life.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

What we need are MORE leftwing speech police.

Quaestor said...

It's not rape if you enjoy it is a rather flippant yet nonetheless accurate summation of the law as it is everywhere except in the fevered imaginations of feminitwits like Abbie Normal, who believe it's rape if the woman changes her mind.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Behold: The desperation on display by leftist Brownshirts on a total witch hunt to FIND something these teen boys did wrong. They did or said something wrong, damn it.

Bravo.

After you find something crude out of a young boys mouth , then what?
ooo we know. Go all Kathy Griffith. HARASS. DESTROY. RUIN. THREATEN VIOLENCE. etc...
Hogg is good at that. Take your cues from him.
Again - Bravo, brownshirts on the left. Bravo.

walter said...

Drago said...The party of "spark of divinity" MS13 machete murderers would like for you to focus on high schoolers.
--
Certainly not the vile black protesters there.
Narrative doesn't compute.

Matt Sablan said...

I wonder when we'll see the full context clip from the woman and see if it matches what she claims. They're currently batting zero. I will say this; the sounds of the words are not coming from the direction they turn the camera of the kids. Also, that's not nearly the same amount of kids as we see later. Maybe it is the same group, but... eh, I'm not believing it without something better than a poorly filmed clip.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

David Hogg - who travels in luxury as he profits off the death of his dead classmates, would make a terrific Leftwing Speech Police Commissar.

Don't you think?

walter said...

It's a bit of a problem when the kids are being held to a higher standard than the adults there.

Drago said...

"Behold: The desperation on display by leftist Brownshirts on a total witch hunt to FIND something these teen boys did wrong. They did or said something wrong, damn it."

Indeed.

Earlier today the LLR cucks and their lefty pals pulled up a pic from 8 years ago when the high school had a typical "black out" basketball game against a rival.

What do you think Ingas pals did with that?

You already know, dont you.

Yep, the lefties accused the high schoolers of going in "blackface" to "taunt" minority opponents.

Inga and her pals are doing everything in their power to set off another of their antifa/Hodgkinson storm troopers to go after these kids and their families.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

The leftwing machine WILL FIND something. Teenage boys are bound to say or do something stupid. Even if that kid does not go to Covington - he's still a racist misogynist MAGA hat wearing creep. Oh wait - I didn't see the MAGA hat on that guy. ooops. oh well. He's guilty! Burn the witch.

Their lives must be destroyed. For the common good.

All while low IQ David Hogg enjoys Harvard. He's up and coming leftist speech police guy. He'll be great at it.

Drago said...

These Covington kids better stay alert.

The lefty activists are going to be out there everyday waiting for them to set them up.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Drago - the left are desperate to find something that proves these teens boys are scum of the earth and deserve total Kathy Griffith-style bloody severed head destruction.

Matt Sablan said...

You know what's sad/funny? The Linds person who made that video?

Apparently, has multiple racist slurs and homophobic slurs against Republicans in her old Twitter feed.

So, she MIGHT have just innocently asked a bunch of kids how old they are and suddenly was on the receiving end of a vicious, unprovoked backlash. Or, maybe, that's not what happened. I don't know, and I'd like to know before judging. I jumped to judgment the last time these same kids (maybe) were made out to be random villains, so, I'll keep my powder dry for now.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Drago - exactly. These kids are marked like Jews in Nazi Germany.

Drago said...

I'm recommending additional concealed carry permits for these families in case a LLR Chuck-like type shows up to attack them in order to garner favorable head-patting fron his lefty betters.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Good find Matthew Sablan.

You know what's sad/funny? The Linds person who made that video?

Apparently, has multiple racist slurs and homophobic slurs against Republicans in her old Twitter feed.


hmmmm.

Paul said...

Dems always poll well a year or two before the election. That is cause polls don't mean squat. Then as the election tightens you see the shift near the middle.

Trump will win in 2020, just like he did in 2016.

Matt Sablan said...

Now, it's possible these are all ironic tweets, including her "the Holocaust is a lie" one. But, uh, I'm going to wait to see if she can corroborate that those were: A the same kids and B, actually unprovoked, before I get burned again.

John henry said...

There is no law against lying to a pollster.

I could make a case that there is a moral obligation NOT to tell them the truth. Politicians only use polls to better lie to us. "My polls say people are for X, I better pretend that I am really for X even though I am for Y"

Do NOT refuse to answer the polls. If they ask, answer politely and give them all the time they need. Make them think you are telling them what you really feel.

Then LIE your ass off.

John Henry

walter said...

Shit Drago..tamp it down some.

John henry said...

If Handsy runs for Prez and wins, he will only be the 2nd former VP to become Prez.

You know who else did that?

Nixon.

Bush was the only sitting VP to win since Martin Van Buren in 1836.

Overall, the history of presidents who served as VPs is pretty abysmal. With the exception of Coolidge.

Though some people also think T Roosevelt was a bit better than abysmal.

John Henry

John henry said...

Blogger Drago said...

....un 4 years of service he went AWOL 3 times.

The good news? It was only 3 times!


The bad news? He kept coming back.

Bless his heart.

John Henry

walter said...

Methinks the anti "oldy"/white/male sentiment of a chunk of Dem electorate might influence Biden's chances relative to history.

Drago said...

walter: "Shit Drago..tamp it down some."

In the words of Lee Marvin's "Liberty Valance" character: "You and me are only as drunk as we want to be..."

Gretchen said...

PPP is a Democrat poll. 6% of respondents believe Carter was the best president in the last 40 years, Carter.

PPP thought Hillary was going to win.

Fen said...

"...MAGA hat-wearing teens"

Inga: (clutches pearls)

"...an indigenous protester"

Inga: (gushes)

Known Unknown said...

"Even if that kid does not go to Covington - he's still a racist misogynist MAGA hat wearing creep."

Nah, he was wearing Bengals gear which automatically implicates him as a criminal.


An aside -- I don't know why someone like Inga is so invested in finding out more about these stupid teenagers. They're just dumb kids who will, on occasion, say something completely idiotic. And I'm not sure what's criminal about any of this, even the rape comment. We used to be a much less fragile nation. Now we spend our lives trying to out-victim one another. Who the fuck cares? Worry about your own shit and your own family and your own people. Someday we will all be dead and no one will remember what any of these kids said or did.

walter said...

" I don't know why someone like Inga is so invested in finding out more about these stupid teenagers. "
--
See the hats?

walter said...

And c'mon..she can't really celebrate the dwindling women's march.
Squirrel!
Fuc=-king damn SQUIRREL!!!!

Known Unknown said...

"See the hats?"

I guess one must destroy whatever is not like them.

walter said...

That's what tolerance looks like

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n.n said...

clear example of right wing bigotry, racism, and hate

Sanctimonious hypocrisy, bigotry? What are the principles?

Diversity, racism, sexism? Is there evidence that they indulge in color judgments?

Hate? They seem opposed to Pro-Choice and political congruence (PC) in its many colorful manifestations.

#HateLovesAbortion

rehajm said...

Now do Hillary’

DavidD said...

“Who do you trust more” should be “Whom do you trust more”.

DavidD said...

National survey.

Now do 50 individual state surveys.

New York and California do not get to decide for the rest of us.

Nichevo said...


Drago said...
Inga: "Drago, some of us have better things to do than wrestle pigs in the mud."

Indeed, your lefty allies are preparing to give blow jobs to people who will go an punch innocent high schoolers in the face.

1/22/19, 4:38 PM


Notice that none of them are giving the BJs first. That would be an interesting wrinkle. Post a home video on pr0nhub of yourself giving said blowie. Then have recipient(s) make allegiance to progressivism ISIS-style, and next be seen on TV. Wonder what the xompliance rate on follow-through would be.

Nichevo said...


Blogger walter said...
" I don't know why someone like Inga is so invested in finding out more about these stupid teenagers. "
--
See the hats?

1/23/19, 12:15 AM



Psst...to hurt them.