"... the prospect of an ultraliberal Democratic nominee bent on raising taxes and slapping regulations on their firms. The result is a kind of nervous paralysis of executives pining for a centrist nominee like Michael Bloomberg while realizing such an outcome is unlikely from a party veering sharply to the left.... While Bloomberg represents something of the platonic ideal on Wall Street — fiscally responsible while strong on climate change and gun policy and not in need of cash — Biden represents something of a wild card. The former vice president does not have deep relationships across Wall Street, but he’s viewed favorably as a candidate who could win and would take a somewhat more moderate approach on taxes and regulation.... 'Everybody likes him. I don’t know if you want him to be president at 78 in 2020, but it looks like he’s in great shape,' said one hedge fund manager and top Democratic donor."
From Politico,
"Wall Street freaks out about 2020/Many of the nation’s top bankers want Trump gone, but they’re growing anxious about some Democratic presidential contenders."
AND: Then there's Schultz:
"Howard Schultz Might Reelect Trump Because He Doesn’t Understand How Politics Works" (Jonathan Chait, New York Magazine).
The reality is that a Schultz candidacy probably would draw more support from the Democrats than from Trump. Schultz has liberal views on a wide array of social issues, like immigration, gay rights, and racial justice. These cultural issues form the main basis for the polarization of the electorate. To the extent that anything has scrambled the culture-war polarization, it is Trump’s lightning-rod personality.
But this fact simply underscores the degree to which anybody who isn’t Trump simply divides the anti-Trump vote....
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 246 of 246Seems to me in hindsight Lincoln left us off pretty okay, for a lawyer.
Bottom Wall Street Execs makes a better story, but who cares when there are narrative to sell?
My old pal Betamax3000 once did.
Mid-level Wall Street Urchins (spiritually, you know why it's a sterotype...) sans dogma.
Precious, precious Dogma. Just gone.
I know some of you get it.
Okay, I know that.
Some of you get it.
But, what I don't think you understand, is some other people DON'T get it. So, you get what we had here last couple of comments.
Cool Hand Luke, ya know. You feel me????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHbDum5ye4w
"Make the king laugh" is what Jackie Gleason told comics who walked up to him.
The contradictions are amazing.
"Driving" implies one, with much much less than can we say omnipotent capabilities, being on the ride and all with every group (very, very small) that has had a "driver", and it is all consuming.
This use behooves more behooving.
Pay Hardin, SLoppy Laslo and Me: they will build arenas for us.
@Birkel
I don’t disagree about the massive drop in money velocity. The Obama economy was purposely hard on working class/poor people and the stimulus money overwhelmingly went to obama’s Wealthy cronies.
Wealthy people can only spend so much and when the little people are hurting they can’t spend much and velocity goes down.
What is really getting the globalist plutocrats goats right now is wages are going up and velocity is going up and nothing the fed does right now short of purposely tanking the economy will stop that until a globalist shill like bush or Obama can open the borders and sign us up for some “free trade” where we have no tariffs and everyone else has tariffs on our stuff.
Too many white people? Always and forever.
Orange AND white bad.
White bad.
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If Schultz is real threat to the Democrats, I promise you, he will be Kavanaughed with something.
Shultz is likely as close to a Jim Webb as 2020 will see.
NATO increasing defense spending by $100 Billion after Trump calls them out and pressures them.
....Precisely as Putin wanted.....uh, huh? Wait a minute...wut?
Oh, right, precisely as Limbaugh and Coulter wanted.......uh, huh? Coulter and Rush want the wall...this is ooookkkkkk but not their highest priority..
Oh, right, precisely as Hannity wanted....
Or has someone else been identified as running the White House this week? It's hard to keep up with the lefties/LLR's shenanigans.
Pooty poots "cock-holster" strikes again..
LOL! The GOP really is something else. What great nation doesn't need a party of poor bastards who live for nothing more than looking after the financial interests of its super-wealthy?
As for average tax rates on those super-wealthy, they WERE much higher prior to the idiotic St. Reagan days. And your recent cuts of their corporate tax rates have only shifted MORE of the tax burden further back onto the regular Joes.
Entitlements and their expenditures were already in place by 1945. They were enacted under FDR. Hello?
As for global industry post-WWII, I suppose we could always inflict another world war on our planet, with its attendant genocide, tens of millions dead and the alliance we needed with the Soviets and their global communists in order to win it. Thank the Republicans for giving us a deregulated economy leading to a global depression in 1929 and the rise of fascism in Europe for giving us that one - a scenario they look to keep us well on track for repeating in 2008 and 2018. Hey, the roaring '20s were worth it, right?!
Nominal capital gains are also 25% lower. Mitt Romney paid about 12% taxes when he ran and released his tax records. If that's seriously the kind of taxation on the super-wealthy that you think keeps his much more heavily taxed (by rates) maids from revolting, you've got some serious mental deficits and a lot of re-thinking to do.
More. Federal tax revenue by source. Note how much of the burden was shifted to payroll taxes and away from corporate taxes. That's as much proof of a tax on the poor through relief for the rich as anyone needs.
At what point are you sick bastards going to finally admit that you made (and are perpetuating) a conscious decision to sustain a class war on the working class and working poor by predatory vulture capitalists?
Here's more evidence. How much has productivity increased all this time? A lot. How much of those revenue gains gone to the actual labor whose productivity is increasing? Fucking none. It's all going to asset owners. You claim to care about the value of work and the plight of the poor but can't allow them any of those rewards/gains that their more productive labor is accruing to the economy. Nope. Keep letting the asset owners skim off of it, instead.
What shameful morons you all are. Yours are precisely the policies that make for communist revolutions. Save yourselves before it's too late and history does it for you. In a much messier way.
The welfare states of post-war Europe were no accident. They were the bargain with the working class that was needed to keep economies like Weimar Germany from re-emerging and another Hitler and WWII from taking root. In that regard they worked pretty damn well.
But go ahead and try giving yourself more 1920s economies again instead. See where that gets you.
Trump International Crime Syndicate said...
Looks like PPPT finally, at long last, got the word that his previous handle was, you know, based on another in a long string of lefty delusions.
Better late than never.
I see his new handle is quite similar to the one we had to read over and over again from 2001 to 2009: The "BFEE": Bush Family Evil Empire.
You remember that one don't you? It's the one where the lefties claimed, with a straight face, (and with total lefty "sincerity") that the Bush family was personally responsible (not indirectly mind you, but personally!) for funding Hitler's rise to power in Germany.
On top of that, the Bush family was supposedly getting millions and millions from the war in the middle east. Who can forget "no blood for oil"/"Haliburton!!"/"Bush cronies cashing in on Iraqi oil!!"
Good times, good times....
A bit better than Romney gave a chick cancer (personally!) and didn't pay taxes for 10 years of course but still not quite as good as Truman calling Dewey both "a Stalin" AND "a Hitler"!! A two-fer.
Nicely done Harry. Nicely done.
If only Harry had been around to accuse Brett Kavanaugh of leading a band of merry gang-rapists terrorizing the Maryland countryside for over a decade (a decade!! LOL).
Something out of a fevered lefty novel about a dystopian right-wing atlantic seaboard enclave where chicks are routinely terrorized by night-riding horseback rapists!
BTW, what do you think noted liar Christine Blasey Ford spent her sweet sweet million dollar payoff on? I hope it was something nice.
PPPT is struggling mightily to avoid focusing on his model lefty state of Venezuela.
Hey, remember the long line of lefty "dignitaries" who headed south to sing the praises of Hugo Chavez and cheered Chavez when the lefty hack murderer came to the UN and said that the place smelled of sulfur after GWBush had spoken?
Yes, that's right. America's lefties cheered a commie hack who stole billions from his own nation and transferred it into swiss bank accounts and who called the democratically elected President of the United States literally "satan".
Oh wait, but that was cool because recall how the lefties swore up and down that W had stolen the election from Gore?
Gee, it's almost as if the lefties have one playbook and keep on running the same plays over and over and over hoping against hope that no one will remember that they play it against every republican candidate and office holder.
But only every single one.
LOL
I sure hope PPPT is doing better now. Perhaps he's on a new chemical "regime" that is more conducive to clear thinking. Though I don't hold out much hope.
Address the substance and spare us the tabloid news cycle drama. No pundit talks about some SCOTUS nomination hearing any more - whether for a blackout drunk with a temper problem or otherwise. The Trump Int'l Crime Syndicate is stacking the federal bench with abominably conservative executive branch lackeys across the board anyway. Judicial activists all of them - as long as it's pro-corporate and pro-unitary executive.
The topic of the thread is how Wall Street is trying to maintain its death grip on both parties' agendas while fucking over the workers of this country for yet another election cycle. Since Drago is a hard-core up-the-butt partisan RNC COC hack, he scampers like a cockroach to avoid addressing that fact.
Behold: what the left has in mind for us....
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-kirchick-venezuela-pundits-20170802-story.html
PPPT is somehow confused as to what the big-time lefty donors of Wall Street want for their cash.
Dial up Hillary and ask her.
Or you could ask Bernie Sanders, whom you supported.
BTW, there's a very nice video of a shirtless Bernie partying with his commie pals in the Soviet Union in 1988.
Gee, 1988, I guess we didn't know what the mass murdering commies in the Soviet Union were all about then, did we?
LOL
Well, what do you expect of poor poor Bernie? He never had a real job in his entire life...literally! And the one time he was expected to do something to earn his keep was on in a commie commune!! And even they fired his a** for being too lazy!!
It. Does. Not. Get. Any. Funnier. Than. That!!!
And PPPT fell hard for that dude....and the hoax dossier....and the hoax rumors about some tape somewhere.
PPPT falls hard for lots of conspiracies. But usually only the dumbest, most transparent ones.
Venezuela is not Germany. It is not France. It is not Norway. It is not Sweden. It is not Denmark. It is not the Netherlands. It is not Switzerland. It is not literally dozens of countries (and hundreds of millions of people) that can somehow afford their workers a decent life and standard of living but if you're a liar like Dreck then you go to war with the 1980s Ayn Rand/Greenspan talking points that your RNC COC superiors sent you with.
Get with the times. This is not your father's Reagan "Revolution" any longer, shit-for-brains.
One would have thought you'd have figured that out once the Great Fascist wiped the floor with all those conventional GOP insta-candidate puppet dolls you were so invested in. But you're about as slow a learner as a garden slug. And just as slimy.
Hey, you know who else was a big time commie fanboy?
Brennan!! He happily voted for openly Soviet funded Gus Hall!!
Maybe it was accidentally.......
Something else interesting: Carl Bernstein was another in a long long long line of Red Diaper Babies here in the US.
Go figure!
Still, for the lunatics like PPPT who insist Trump is controlled by Putin, why do you think Putin wanted Trump to pressure NATO to increase defense spending by over $100B?
So strange. So very very strange....
Yep. 1988. Woot. So relevant to 2018.
Like I said, some shit-for-brains didn't get his memo in 2016 and he still isn't getting it now.
Keep telling us about how the Axis of Ayn Rand and Alan Greenspan will save America with more libertarian philosophy, Dreck-Zero. Yep. That will really set the electorate on fire. Not enough being done for the rich that owned your party before Trump made that buck stop with him.
Right. I'm being ambushed by a fossil. Oh no. Please help me from this 30-year fossilized turd attacking me.
Hey PPPT, did you hear the "good news"?
After whacking their entire nuke energy grid, the Germans under Frau Merkel ("educated" and raised in commmie East Germany...hmmmmmm) have decided to also nuke their coal-fired plants over the next 19 years to meet their hoax climate change targets!!
And much rejoicing was heard in the Kremlin as Putin's pals now get to contemplate becoming the dominant direct supplier of energy to Germany overall!!
Currently, the PPPT's and the lefts beloved "RESET"/"I'll Have More Flexibility After My Next Election So Please Relay That Message To Vladimir" Putin delivers 90% of the natural gas directly to Germany, bypassing other NATO allies (thanks Gerhard Schroeder!!).
Now with the nukes gone and the coal industry being whacked, that opens up ANOTHER 40% of the total German energy grid to Soviet...er....Russian control!!
Within 10 years Russian will be in direct control of the energy required to support over 55% of all German energy requirements!!
Nice job Vlad. Looks like Europes lefties have you sitting pretty...
Early PPPT: "Entitlements and their expenditures were already in place by 1945. They were enacted under FDR. Hello?
As for global industry post-WWII, I suppose we could always inflict another world war on our planet, with its attendant genocide, tens of millions dead and the alliance we needed with the Soviets and their global communists in order to win it. Thank the Republicans for giving us a deregulated economy leading to a global depression in 1929 and the rise of fascism in Europe for giving us that one - a scenario they look to keep us well on track for repeating in 2008 and 2018. Hey, the roaring '20s were worth it, right?!"
Later PPPT: "Yep. 1988. Woot. So relevant to 2018."
LOL
And, mind you, these posts were within 30 minutes of each other!!
Discuss.
So, to summarize PPPT, and no, we won't recount his earlier ravings about how light bulbs and large agricultural operations and the average square footage of midwest homes result in the homeless defecating on the streets of San Francisco, 1988 is so long ago its not relevant any longer.
But the 1950's, the 1940's, the 1920's are totally totally relevant.
LOL
Discuss.
I do believe we are just moments away from blaming the 1920's crash on future conservative supreme court nominees who are accused of decades long gang-rape activities!
Let's pay close attention now to see if PPPT goes there.......
....the anticipation is killing me!
....Where's that popcorn?....
I'm not sure what the fossilized 30-year dead talking point turd is bringing up now. Something about how NASA-led and NOAA-led atmospheric science is a "hoax?"
Maybe the same moon landing they pulled off was also a hoax. Everyone knows if you want actual performance and achievement you have a partisan "think tank" do your science for you.
Other than that, I detect the predictable cheerleading for the KGB tyrant of a country that never really achieves "greatness" without killing off a few tens of millions at a time. Good thing the guy making these "comments" is as Luddite and anti-technology and anti-development as his Russian tyrant friend is.
Yawn.
Later PPPT: "I'm not sure what the fossilized 30-year dead talking point turd is bringing up now."
Earlier PPPT: "Hey, the roaring '20s were worth it, right?!"
Discuss.
2018 has much more in common with the 1930s than it does with 1980.
Drago is a very dumb man. His rapid machine-gun fired comments depend on his not understanding the point he's responding to.
Of course, history is irrelevant to him - just not to anyone with a brain. The point is, which history?
Important decisions that the loser-loner living in that van by the river is too busy worshiping Putin to ask himself. But then, so is Putin.
There appears to be ample empirical evidence that PPPT cannot recall what he wrote 15 minutes earlier.
Unlike his lefty pals for whom history begins anew every morning, for PPPT history begins anew every quarter hour.
Interesting.
Let's see what else he comes up in the way of contradicting himself every other post.
Should be fun.
Discuss.
Dude. Just fuck off. If you waited 2 minutes for your Ritalin to kick in you would have gotten the tenth point of the night you refuse to allow into your psychotic brain: How the economics and politics of 2018 have more in common with the 1930s than with the 1980s.
Again, because you did not understand why Trump won your party's nomination, I don't expect you to understand that point, either.
Now go write ten more comments in a row without reading what they're in response to.
Interesting!
PPPT has opted for an Only Some Previous Historical Time Periods Are Relevant And The Relevancy Criteria Will Be Kept Secret So As To Facilitate "molding" By Our Designated Lefty Poster.
It's a bold strategy Cotton!! Let's see if it pays off for him!
Look PPPT, I'm sorry your hoax dossier and your hoax golden showers tape "thing" didn't work out.
You are just going to have to come to grips with that and overcome it.
I'm sure your medicine cabinet has plenty of options for you....
There appears to be ample empirical evidence that PPPT cannot recall what he wrote 15 minutes earlier.
Drago can quote comments that he not only can't understand, but that he can't allow to be explained to him. Repeatedly.
He's got an anxious "comment publish" finger and he intends to use it, people. Every time he doesn't understand something.
Which is pretty much constantly.
Note to self: PPPT now attempting to "play to the crowd", indicating a serious lack of self-confidence. I wonder how much "therapy" there is in his background?
Two more comments of his that no one will read. But it made him feel all partisan hack-happy.
Apparently my two, clear and detailed comments posted over an hour ago - that kicked off his comment diarrhea - were that much of a threat to him.
Also: He approves of my upgrade from characterizing Trump as a guy that the Russians have dirt on to an international criminal. Good to know.
Other than that, it's sad to know that his loneliness is so acute that he relies on posting more and more comments to get the attention of a male he's never met (other than in cyberspace) at 3:30 AM EST.
Let that fact set in. This is the social life of a Republican hack.
And they wonder why their party was taken over by a destructive, politically promiscuous and ideologically unmoored real estate developer game show host with financial obligations abroad. Too funny.
What's funny is that Trump is a hotelier; yet, he lives rent-free in your head.
Does Drago not have a job? He seems to be here 24/7. Night and day, day and night, rapid fire repetitive commentary, very strange.
Watch yourself here Inga. If one needs a job to post, most leftie commenters across the internet spectrum would be rendered mute.
What's funny is that Putins Russia relys almost exclusively on oil experts for their economy to run. Trumps America has become one of the worlds lrgest exporters of petroleum products. Including to eastern europe. Yeah. let's hear how Putin controls Trump. You gotta be a real ritmo to believe that shit.
"I AM SUPPORTING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and live in a $25,000 house!!
HARVARD PAYS NOTHING.
why is this?"
Because the wealthy always make the non-wealthy pay.
Many of the non-wealthy accept and even support this, as they have been hoodwinked into thinking "it's only fair" to let the wealthy loot the rest of us, or because they have hoodwinked themselves into thinking they are merely a few years of hard work away from being wealthy themselves.
Did they remove operable windows down in the Wall Street districts after the great crash of 29? Cause you know guys (and gals)...we’ll get by without ya.
Wow. These people are really STUPID. These guys are just now waking up to the possibility that someone on the far left may take over the White House? Really!? And it never occurred to you idiots that the far left is already taking over the House of Representatives and the Senate? The DNC is already going hard left -- full socialist. It won't help to have someone reasonably sane in the White House if the rank-and-file DNC go full socialist.
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it." -- The Admiral in "Hunt for Red October"
Birkel, China's growth. Some leaked internal studies peg it to 1.5% at best, may be negative already. They don't base their money printing on foreign reserves any more. Their exchange rate is decided by the govt., not by the market. Right now their monetary base is their real estate values. So their real estate is not allowed to fall. How to do that? Home owners are not allowed to resell their homes at a loss, keeping the last sales price as the home value. Developers are not allowed to discount the homes that are not sold. But they can make under the table deals, such as a huge kickback to the home buyer to lower the real sales price.
China's economy is a scam.
elkh1,
You don't have to convince me!
Look at the satellite pictures of nighttime North v South Korea. We can see who is doing better.
Now do China v US.
The contrast is obvious.
I think it's unlikely that the majority of "Top Wall Street Executives" are anxious to get rid of Trump. Their expressed opinions including publicly disclosed donations will follow what they perceive to be their public relations interests and the best party invitations. I suspect most of them don't care much who the President is so long as their lobbyists can talk to the bureaucrats who write the regs.
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