"In Borno state, according to the United Nations Population Fund, nearly sixty per cent of girls between the ages of fifteen and nineteen are married, and many have begun bearing children. Wives typically require permission from their husbands to leave the house, and they have little say in family decisions or public life. 'People often don’t realize how much choice Boko Haram gave women,' Fatima Akilu, a psychologist who runs the Neem Foundation—which operated a deradicalization program for female former captives of Boko Haram—told me. The wives of commanders, and also women who joined the group voluntarily, were extended greater freedoms than are typical for women in the region. 'We usually dismiss Boko Haram as anti-women and anti-girls, but they knew that a powerful recruitment strategy was to tell women that, "If you join our group, you can have whatever role you want,"' she said. '"Even if you want to be a combatant, we will train you to be a combatant."'"
From "The Women Rescued from Boko Haram Who Are Returning to Their Captor" (The New Yorker).
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The New Yorker?
Is there any terrible group for which the Left will not pimp?
Women had better sex under Stalin, too.
SMH
So violent extremist Islam is better than regular moderate Islam? So Western progs will naturally conclude that -- .
Every woman adores a fascist.
All cultures are equal.
Nutcase jihadist kidnappers—you can’t live with them and you can’t live without them.
Women had better sex under Stalin, too.
SMH
1/7/19, 7:39 AM
Im not up on his habits. I do know lots of women had more sex under Beria.
Report to follow when I swing down the west side. Nigerian women aren’t in the top 5 though. The African porn industry is largely run out of Lagos unsurprisingly.
Introduce #MeToo and the grudge instinct will take over.
'"Even if you want to be a combatant, we will train you to be a combatant."'"
ALSO! Even if you don't want to be a combatant, we will train you to be a combatant.
you will No Longer have to take orders from you husband: Now you Will Take Orders From US
Sebastian: So violent extremist Islam is better than regular moderate Islam?
The important thing to remember is that they're both better than anything Western patriarchal society offers women.
Or anyway they would be, if they hadn't been messed up by colonialism and Western oppression and stuff. (Nobody treated women shabbily until taught to do so by the White Man.)
Nothing at all surprising here.
Seeming surprise at the merely metaphorical bondage of these women suggests that the author's preconceived notion, or that imputed to the readers, is these women had been literally held in chains.
Also: being young and pretty helps, even and especially in the most dire of social conditions.
Being on the bottom of the Boko Haram hierarchy is the worst, but maybe it averages out OK vs. the rest of the province when you factor in also what it's like at the top.
"Why, yes, the Shariah and Islam are fully compatible with all Western values. Women are the principal beneficiaries of Islam. Since there's no doubt of all that, I'm curious to know why you ask about what is perfectly obvious?"
Boko Haram - Wasn't that a band back in the day? Wait, that was Procul Harum.
Eva Braun had more choices and freedom too.
So women want to leave a shithole for a slightly less sucky shithole? Imagine that. Lets applaud the leaders of the slightly less sucky shithole because they treat women like shit but just a little bit better.
Fuckin New Yorker.
Absolute Garbage!
“Even if you want to be a combatant, we will train you to be a combatant."
Wasn’t that Obama’s policy?
God forbid they are taken to Dearborn, Michigan, USA and put back under strict Sharia.
Ripped from your home by violent gunmen. But it's ok, they're nice guys!
I honestly don't care anymore. Yeah different cultures are going to do things we disagree with. Fine. I may not like it but go nuts. The only thing I hope when I hear things like this is that, lefty feminist types go to these places to educate or blah blah blah and get mugged by reality.
Hey I read all the Native American captive literature back in college, man. The rescued former captive woman choosing to return to her captors because she prefers their savage lifestyle over her oppressive society's rigid roles was a cliche a hundred years before I was born.
Is it weird that most of those "native" societies seem to be ones that practice polygamy? Probably not a good idea to think too deeply about that.
Ripped from your home by violent gunmen. But it's ok, they're nice guys!,
Ripped from your home by violent gunmen. But it's ok, they're PRO-CHOICE!
#NoJudgment?
Listverse: 10 Pioneer Children Abducted by Native Americans Who Refused to Go Home
History Collection: 10 Famous Captives Who Became One With Their Kidnappers
Title: The Women Rescued from Boko Haram Who Are Returning to Their Captors
Subtitle: Yup, they're the ones who married the leaders. Female hypergamy yada yada.
Someone is monitoring Michelle Obama's twitter feed for any new related hashtags and/or pictures, right?
Bring Back Our Girls, Again
Come Back, Our Girls
Knock it off, Our Girls, Come Back
If You Don't Come Back You're Not Our Girls
Eh. People are strange. This understanding extends to everything.
I want to care, but I don't. Obviously the girls have voiced a preference. I could remark about how their view seems so easily accepted despite their history and that of Boko Harem. But what's the point? I have no interest in fighting for these people, and especially in sending others to fight for these people.
You have to read between the lines a bit, but this would seem to violate the Althouse rule about how differences between men and women need to be presented journalistically.
Good news! Beatings will be reduced from three times a day to two!
Women unite(!) or not as is politically expedient.
The Stockholm syndrome is a Eurocentric western construct that does not apply, you racists.
Were these women oppressed by Boko Haram, or were they members of Boko Haram? Were German women after WW2 considered liberated from the Nazis, or were they just fellow Nazis?
Females bond with their captors. That's how their genes survive traditional war. Males usually don't and that's why they were usually killed in battle or sacrificed to the winner's gods. Keeping them as slaves was a step forward in civilization.
The main takeaway from the article is that Islam is all about the intensification of power structures - the woman bemoans not having the influence and prestige of being a "top wife". Islamic societies are structured that way too - Paternalistic, tribal and winner take all.
The New Yorker tries to claim that somehow the existing social structure of the area is worse - but ignores that when their heroine is in power - those who are not "in the group" - ie, non-Muslims - will be treated like cattle or worse. (and let's not forget the central premise here that "captured" girls become the property - ie slaves - of the wonder Boko Haram studs.
Yep - there is nothing that the virtue signalling New Yorker misses in it's attempt to whitewash this tale. Next up - why ISIS wives were better off and why Yazhadi women deserved to be sex slaves for not believing the "correct" religion.
Plath was right.
It's all agitprop. You're supposed to listen respectfully to women's voices, until the women say something you don't like, at which point they become just a tool of the white patriarchy.
Obviously, from the respectful approach, the authors found plenty to their liking about Boko Haram. I guess this is what's called "being an ally".
Some of the kidnapped women were Muslims -- though not Muslim enough for Boko Haram. Others were Christian girls forced to convert. I wonder if any of the Christians (except for Dorcas) have returned to the men they were forced to marry. I wish the author had discussed this. The women in the story seem to be Muslims who went from slave to slave mistress.
bondage porn you can read on the train: there’s an article like that in one of the ny magazines every week
It's like the play Bill Murray was writing in "Tootsie", "Return to Love Canal".
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