“There are so many haters out there on the internet,” DeGeneres told Hart. “Don’t pay attention to them... You can’t let them destroy you.... I think it’s perfect that all this happened... Because there has to be a conversation about homophobia... You’ve grown, you’ve apologized, you’re apologizing again right now, you’ve done it. Don’t let those people win, host the Oscars."They still need a host, but should Hart reverse his decision? Watch the clips at the link. I think the stronger position for him is to resist them, unless they truly crawl.
“We’re back with this year’s Oscar host Kevin Hart,” DeGeneres joked after [a] commercial break.... He said he would be “evaluating” his decision to step down, but still seemed aggrieved over the “malicious attack” on his character....He should be aggrieved! I'd love to hear how he talks about all this when he's not in the warm, fuzzy Ellen DeGeneres showcase. She did a fine job with her role, but notice how she's acting like she's boosting his self-esteem and challenging him, as if he needs to step up and be a winner. I think the people who drove him out are now exposed as the losers, so sticking to his decision isn't "letting them win."
ADDED: Ellen is getting flak for defending Hart.
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Let's have a conversation about using the phrase "Let's have a conversation."
No matter how many people (Ellen now!) decry the smearing of others based on bad words, double plus ungood thoughts, it will never end.
The people have drunk of the power. Once you find you can destroy a person, the urge is too strong to resist.
The phrase "homophobic bone" should be avoided.
Nobody else wants to do it. They need a devious plan to get the guy they had without looking as hypocritical as they are.
Let’s try Ellen...
There are so many haters out there on the internet...
Haters are the worst. I hate them.
Homophobia is that voice in your head telling you that your parents desperately want grandkids.
We've turned this into some sort of offense. Wanting grandkids, wanting to have your own influence and traditions continue into the future, simply wanting grandkids to love and hold is now a prejudice.
The notion that gays suffered thru horrible persecution is, of course, a media fabricated lie intended to cover the reality that gay men killed themselves by the tens of thousands with AIDS as a result of their own behavior. The media pulled off the astounding feat of scapegoating straight men for this catastrophe.
The viciousness of this campaign to denigrate normal human desires exists because of underlying sibling conflict. "Daddy loves you more than he loves me!" is really what this is all about. Well, yeah, he does, because his children who give him grandkids complete the spiritual cycle of his life and give him a child he can hold in his lap and love.
We're basically discarding all reciprocal responsibility of the child to the parent with this campaign and labeling the normal desires of parents for grandchildren as some sort of offense. Perversely stupid and vicious.
Please be careful writing the first comment on a post. If you don't understand what the post is about and there's a link, read the link. Don't just shit on the post! (= why I deleted a comment.)
What if a person says "I don't have a racist bone in my body"?
"You've grown."
I'd be more impressed if she'd said the original tweets weren't anything to get upset about in the first place.
Ellen wouldn't stick her neck out like that for Kevin Hart unless she was asked to by the Powers That Be. The Hollywood Idiots just realized their intersectionality matrix was a bit mixed up for now: black men still Trump gay people, at least in a Oscar hosting context.
Kevin should tell the Oscars to eff off and let them deal with the fallout from Black Americans.
Fuck the Oscars. Don't need them anymore. Sure, I enjoy watching hot attractive starlets strutting around in nice gowns on the red carpet. Yowza!
But they're mostly all obnoxious leftists promoting a buncha bad ideas, including the idea the gay is, ipso facto, beautiful. Sorry, I'll go with a few hundreds of thousands of years of Darwininan struggle to reproduce with members of the opposite sex.
Or, even better, 5000 years of Judeo-Christian teachings about employing healthy loving and nourishing relationships between men and women.
Sarcasm does not travel well on the interwebs, nor in comments.
Cosby should be given a furlough to host the Academy Award. Then put his ass right back in jail. I want laughs not lectures. Heard any good date rape jokes lately? I'm Jello(tm) and don't have a bone in my body. Has Roseanne Barr been barred from hosting the Oscars. Barr barred. I'm on a roll - a Kaiser roll. Now that's a tasty joke. Who said that Austrians aren't funny? Who cares? They make great pastries...and rolls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_roll
EG: "You’ve grown, you’ve apologized, you’re apologizing again right now, you’ve done it. Don’t let those people win, host the Oscars."
KH: "I'm thinking about it. I'm definitely thinking...and I'm thinking about the jokes I would do...in fact I'd like to kind of use you as a sounding board. Would that be okay?"
EG: "Right now? Of course! We'd love that, wouldn't we ladies?"
Audience cheers wildly
KH: "Okay so I'm thinking of opening with this routine I really like myself and, you know, I also want to make the right first impression after all this controversy, but...but at the same time, like you said, not let them win. Right? If Ima do this I have to feel like I'm being true to myself. You know what I mean?"
EG: "Yes! Yes! That's wonderful! I think that's exactly what you need to do. But can you do it here and not...and still do it there? At the Oscars"
KH: "Well, I can just do part of it...so you can sort of get the feel of it...the tone..."
EG: " Go for it!"
KH" Okay, here goes."
More wild cheering from audience as KH gets up and goes over to a microphone.
KH: "So these two faggots are fucking an alligator..."
He black. Intersectional interlocking systems of power impact those who are most marginalized in society. Coalition of the fringes.
Homo jokes aren't homophobia.
Ellen offers a forum for Hart and some good advice - don't let the H8Rs win - but who is the audience for this conversation? I read that the demographic for Ellen's show is 18-49 year old females; are they the H8Rs? Maybe that includes a decent % of lesbians so having Kevin affirm and assert his non-homophobic nature will help with resetting his public image. Just seems to me they aren't speaking to the right people on this. Then again, that could be why they released the clips at night and in advance of the planned airing of the interview.
"Sarcasm does not travel well on the interwebs, nor in comments."
Nor does tact.
Homo jokes aren't homophobia.
Nobody tells Gay jokes more or better than Gays. Because they can. A similar dynamic works for Jews and Jewish jokes.
I've been trying to figure out why I should care, and I conclude that I just can't. I mean it's not as though Hart supported the border wall or wore a MAGA hat.
Sarcasm is the first form of humor learned by pre-teens. Say the opposite of what you mean. It's easy.
Its function is to say that something is wrong, and the listener has to figure out what it is. It's too hard for the kid to formulate.
This lazy habit continues into old age in leftists.
"You've grown."
Yeah, now he's a 5'4-1/4" homo hater.
BC cartoon
X: Meet Smiley, master of sarcastic wit.
BC: Say something sarcastic.
Smiley: Pleased to meet you.
The only fault was that it wasn't sarcasm but irony. Sarcasm always sucks.
Tact is inappropriate touching.
"Sarcasm does not travel well on the interwebs, nor in comments."
Yeah, right.
Except when it does.
homophobic bone
Great name for a rock band!!
The homophobic bone is intensely feared by republican cucks and the source of their gay shame.
source of their gay shame
You have to be so careful with plaids.
They can't let Hart off the hook. The SJW have a formula, start giving passes to some, it is impossible to bury any given target, that so desperately deserves it. Camels nose under the tent and all that. Besides I see no social, or govt costs here. It doesnt affect me, nor any sphere I move in. (I have never tweeted, and the most controversial thing I put on FB was my 7 year old granddaughter shooting an assault rifle.) I also get a warm fuzzy feeling when the left eat their own. #metoo!
Screw the Oscars and the gay mafia.
It must be awfully hard to be a comedian these days.
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It must be awfully hard to be a comedian these days.
That's what she said.
How is "Homophobic Bone" not a band name?
I'm with Althouse on the making them crawl a bit. "Talent doesn't chase management" isn't a bad life rule.
Kevin Hart needs conversion therapy.
I can remember when being outed as a homosexual was considered more damaging to a career than saying something homophobic. Times change, and not everyone keeps up.......All variations of human sexuality are available to see for free on the internet. My research in this area leads me to believe that male homosexuals are not the most depraved creatures on earth. Heterosexuals have some really fierce kinks in their libidos........What is it about human nature that causes so many people to have such weirdness, and, moreover, what is it about human nature that causes us to heap such shame on those whose behavior is offbeat?........Dogs don't get off dressing up as humans, but, if they did, other dogs would not disapprove of such behavior.
I saw A Very English Scandal. It featured Hugh Grant making out with another guy. I found such scenes be mildly icky to watch, but, on the whole, Stormy Daniels' bukkake scenes are significantly ickier. These are the kind of things you can't say on the Oscar show,......All forms of sex between consenting adults is okay, unless the guy is rich and powerful and his partner isn't, especially if the partner is younger and better looking than the rich guy. .
"I think the people who drove him out are now exposed as the losers"
No. They won. They don't care about the Oscars, or about Ellen bitching for a bit. They care about scorching the earth, scaring deviant thinkers, excluding in the name of inclusion. You step out of your trench, you get machine-gunned. If they miss, they'll sprinkle some of their mustard gas on you. Kevin Harts of America, take note.
The definition of homophobic is to have or show a dislike or prejudice against homosexual people.
How are Hart's tweets homophobic?
Host the Oscars? Their ratings are dropping faster than Apple’s stock. Let the whole thing just wither on the vine. They need him just to get the ratings up.
The definition of -phobic is now "insufficiently down with the struggle."
The notion that one might merely let live and mind one's own business is apparently retrograde.
Ellen in her role as homosexual plenipotentiary has forgiven this man. Can any of you do less?!
"It's ok, he's one of the good ones."
The left has no heart, and no shame.
Hart knows someone transgender. Unfortunately, Degeneres is politically congruent ("="). She, they seem surprised that selective and opportunistic has progressive returns.
The left has no heart, and no shame.
#HateLovesAbortion
Not a homophobic bone in his body - even his penis.
Hmmm... when is Hart coming out of the closet?
BTW, my penis is very heterosexual.
Fuck the people who have nothing better to do than go after other people.
Seems like we should reintroduce the duel and see who really means it.
Given that nobody seems to want the Job - why should Hart ignore their insults and take it?
Instead of babbling about how much he loves Gays, Hart should've just told them to take their job and shove it.
BTW, why don't the Oscars ask Sarah Silverman? She'd be the perfect host. Or David Letterman.
If Hart does host the Oscars, the show will get a ratings boost. A lot of people will tune in just to see the opening monologue. I don't particularly care who wins any of the awards, but I would be curious to hear that monologue. I'll wait for the you tube clips the next day, but I will be curious......,The Animal Channel should counter program an awards show for the world's cutest puppies.
If one transgender friend is insufficient, perhaps two will paint him correctly. Also, the diversity racket will accept million, or is it billion, dollar donations for protection.
You know, I think Birches is probably correct here- Ellen DeGeneres doesn't do this without solid backing and encouragement. If Hart is the host after all, then I think Birches will have been proven right. This looks like an apology tour designed by the Hollywood elite to keep Hart as the host. I would lose all respect for Hart if he takes the gig now.
"You've grown."
Kevin only 5'2". That was a mean short joke.
How about Ellen's BFF, Matt Lauer? He used to be a frequent guest. Where he been? Too busy?
How about the other Kevin?
Mr. Spacey as Frank Underwood?
"A similar dynamic works for Jews and Jewish jokes."
Works with dentists, too, or are you some Anti-Dentite?
And I just realized we've come full circle as Bryan Cranston shares the screen with notorious homophobe Hart in The Upside and played dentist Tim Whatley on Seinfeld. He was converting to Judaism — according to Jerry — for the jokes.
Maybe Kevin Hart just needs to be gay for a while and all will be forgiven.
Ellen should have told told Hart "Man up, ya mincing little fairy! It's just the interwebz!".**
** This may explain why my career in PR was short-lived.
"I don't have a homophobic bone in my body".
Would you like one?
If he was just going to tell them to intercourse themselves, he wouldn't have gone on the Ellen show in the first place.
Instead he is proving his homo solidarity by taking a knee.
DeGeneres called the Academy to vouch for him. "I called them, I said, 'Kevin’s on, I have no idea if he wants to come back and host, but what are your thoughts?' And they were like, 'Oh my God, we want him to host! We feel like that maybe he misunderstood or it was handled wrong. Maybe we said the wrong thing but we want him to host. Whatever we can do we would be thrilled. And he should host the Oscars.'"
He's also denigrated bums:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KySHM-aE7NE
He needs to mouth kiss a bum at the Oscars.
Kevin, Kevin - stay away from the Oscars. No one cares about them any more. Let them suffer for your absence.
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