Reporter: Do you regret any of your comments about George H.W. Bush or the Bush family?
— NBC News (@NBCNews) December 1, 2018
President Trump: "Thank you very much everybody." pic.twitter.com/TTJ5Q3CkRB
... and this discussion ensued (click to enlarge and sharpen):
At that Wiktionary link:
paralipsis... A figure of speech in which one pretends to ignore or omit something by actually mentioning it.
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Mr. Trump won the nomination because he trashed the Bush family.
Paralepus is where you release a rabbit as a distraction.
Mr. Bush is no smarter today than he was last week. He serves as cover for rabbits.
It was a good question and deserved an honest answer. "No."
There would follow a leftist media meltdown. Trump goes off PC script.
The game of let's pretend we liked Bush.
The media pretends to care that Trump doesn't pretend to care.
Caring about dead politicians is what Vice Presidents are for.
This may not be the day to act like the Bush family doesn't exist.
IMHO.
Never regret speaking the truth. What DJT said about the Deep State Bushes was accurate.
With the last big name participant in the JFK murder now gone, lets have a look at all those CIA files.
I can't believe Althouse posted this.
Can you imagine what that [asinine - removed as disrespectful to donkeys] reporter would have done if Trump answered the question?
She would have [shit - delete expletive for juveniles].
Sebastian said...I can't believe Althouse posted this.
Would you believe her spouse posted it when she left her terminal unlocked?
Don't parents do this all the time with their kids by changing the subject? Or maybe it's just me.
It's unspeakable.
The people who spent every day of his candidacy and presidency attacking GHWB ask Trump if he's sorry he attacked GHWB.
Trump could have easily answered "Are you?"
Paralupus is where you release the wolves on the reporters.
Good response from Trump. He can trash the no-class reporters later.
Bottom line: we don't have to "read his lips" anymore.
I'm impressed by Trump's quickness and his rock-hard poker face.
The reporter wanted to catch him at least in a moment of insecurity or fear or confusion even if he didn't say any words that would be useful against him, but there wasn't the briefest instant of a reaction. He just treated the fake-news question as if it were nothing at all, which was perfectly appropriate on this death day. On another day, he can say something smart, but here, saying nothing, giving no reaction? Absolutely perfect.
"paralipsis... A figure of speech in which one pretends to ignore or omit something by actually mentioning it."
I may be thick--in fact I suspect that it is all too likely--but does that really apply to the technique of dismissing a question by deliberately ignoring, or prentending to, ignore it? Which is what I think Trump did here. It seems qualitatively different to me. But again, see qualification above.
Who put the lips in paralipsus?
"He just treated the fake-news question as if it were nothing at all, which was perfectly appropriate on this death day."
Sure one of the insulted Bushes is dead. So he doesn't exist, no pretending needed. But the family of the dead Bush still lives. So pretending that they don't exist and they don't have feelings re themselves and the dead Bush re a DJT response re Qs re trashing of them is not accurate or nice. They still exist.
The problem w/ Althouse's conclusion that this is DJT being smart, is that her logic requires us to all know that DJT is purposefully ignoring addressing his trashing re the Bush family, on the day one of them (who did more than avoid AIDS re service) died. Normal humans don't think 'golly it sure is good to see that DJT is deciding to let his trashing of the Bushes carry on sans real grace on the day that one died.'
After Trump dies, will all those reporters regret how they treated him?
P.S.
How cool is it for Althouse to suggest that DJT's ignoring the press in this sorta situation w/ this sorta statement is some sorta on-the-fly brilliant thing?
Too bad he and all the other presidents didn't figure out this technique, going back forever (or, at least since tech made such a squirm useful).
A DJT innovation! Like 'prime the pump.'
After Trump dies, the only regret of Robert "The FBI Whitewasher" Mueller will be that he failed in his years-long attempt to undo the 2016 Presidential election.
"Read my paralipsis..."
EDH — brilliant.
"On another day, he can say something smart"
BTW how funny is this statement?
We all know this means that we'll see DJT in one of his hostage modes. When the speech is in anti-authentic. There may be some ad libs: a "so true" and "good people on both sides" stuff.
The day DJT says something so-called smart, instead of ignoring his trashing of the Bush family, as he did today. Teleprompter DJT.
BTW,
Meadehouse may want to make a run 'round Madtown. Time to make sure nobody is F-ing w/ graveyards and statues.
Show yur true colors re respect for service! Not just paralipsis.
Althouse said..
On another day, he can say something smart, but here, saying nothing, giving no reaction? Absolutely perfect.
Trump also conveys the impression that the press gaggle has simple run out of ideas, it's now "garbage time" and he has better things to do.
"Garbage time" is a term used to refer to the period toward the end of a timed sports competition that has become a blowout when the outcome of the game has already been decided, and the coaches of one or both teams will decide to replace their best players with substitutes.
What about:
1. "With all due respect"
2. "No disrespect but, "
3. "As I'm sure you already know"
4. "Needless to say"
Notice that liberals never get asked things like this. Did Obama ever get asked if he regretted making fun of McCain's handicap?
A good example of how Trump can be both "Trump" to his supporters and "Presidential" to those outside his base.
He seems to be moving from bashing the media to making them irrelevant, and as Mueller wraps up it will be interesting to see where and how he redirects the energy that becomes available.
Absence, the highest form of presence. ~James Joyce
I should probably do that more often.
Matthew Sablan said...Notice that liberals never get asked things like this. Did Obama ever get asked if he regretted making fun of McCain's handicap?
That's because the media had a strange felationship with Obama.
"Needless to say" is only acceptable to say if you pronounce it as "needles".
*Don't parents do this all the time with their kids by changing the subject? Or maybe it's just me.*
Especially when they are having tantrums.
They = kids
I hope someone is searching some archives for the Bush Sr is a Nazi posts and articles to break out on liberal commentators over the next week.
He just has such fun with these English majors masquerading as journalists. Like your trolls here... oh so witty valley girls that they are. So far far outclassed!.
Pair o'labia
How does that grab you?
Didn't Bush 1 say this when asked about having an affair?
"I refuse to dignify that question with an answer"
asDs:Sure one of the insulted Bushes is dead."
Team Left accused the entire Bush family of literally financing Hitler, accused HW of literally conspiring with the Ayatollah, accused HW of being both stupid _scanner Fake News story) and a coward (bailed out of his plane early to leave his radioman/gunner to die (yes, the left literally did that)), now pretend they did nothing of the sort.
Amusing.
But Trump called Jeb "low energy" and thats like, really bad, or something.
Blogger chickenlittle said...
Pair o'labia
How does that grab you
Trump says ...
That's Pair o'labiamajora
Matthew Sablan said...I hope someone is searching some archives for the Bush Sr is a Nazi posts and articles to break out on liberal commentators over the next week.
I did a cursory search on Google images, but as MadisonMan pointed out, it's complicated by all the references to Bush II. If anyone did it, it might be the Germans. They were some of the earliest, loudest, and nastiest critics of that war: KEIN BLUT FÜR ÖL
Spiros Pappas said...Mr. Trump won the nomination because he trashed the Bush family.
He destroyed their dynastic dreams is what he actually did. And their corrupt donors -- in one swell foop.
Trump is a learner. He’s very smart. He’s getting better and better.
Bush,1992
"I'm not going to take any sleazy questions like that from CNN," Mr. Bush said when a reporter for Cable News Network asked him about the report during a news conference in Kennebunkport, Me., with Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin of Israel.
"In this kind of screwy climate that we're in, why, I expect it," Mr. Bush said. "But I don't like it and I'm not going to respond other than to say it's a lie."
Trump agrees with Bush about CNN
It wasn't that long ago that Trump had dementia. It either was miraculously cured, or the press isn't intelligent enough to exploit it.
The media ARE the democrat party. The Media ARE Rivals to... fairness and truth. They are political operatives.
Any mention from the hack press how Bill Clinton, who hiked taxes more than any other president in history - used GHWB's "read my lips, no new taxes" as a gimmick for his lie-filled campaign promise?
nah - memory lane only goes in one direction. Campaign shaming only goes in one direction.
Remember last year when the metoo radicals tried to tear down HW Bush?
"The Intimate love letters that that ex US president George Bush sent to his Secretary Of State Condoleeza Rice, have been found in a stash of missing White House emails and could spell curtains for the former President’s long-troubled marriage, a close source reveals.
The love letters are part of 22 million electronic messages from the Bush administration that were thought to have been destroyed. The documents were recently recovered by computer experts after a watchdog sued the government to obtain information on other activities by top level Bush officials.
Sources say the explosive notes are bound to set off another round of fireworks between Bush and the former first lady. “These emails are the smoking gun” Said the source “It’s likely the whole world will soon see them, and Bush won’t be able to hide from his words.”
The messages are believed to have been sent between March 2003 and October 2005, when sources say the Bush marriage was already strained. “George is absolutely panicking and shaking” a friend of America’s ex-commander-in-chief reveals.
Rumours were rampant over the last three years that Bush,63, and Condoleeza,55, were having an affair. The talk sparked bitter arguments between Laura,63, and her beleaguered husband-and at one point she stormed out of the White House to spend the night at a nearby hotel.
Laura had her suspicions about what was going on between the pair but could not prove anything. A slip of the tongue by Rice almost gave things away when she referred to Bush as “My husband” at a dinner party in Washington- and Bush returning the compliment by calling Rice “My date” during an overseas trip together.
“The president says that during his lowest times he reached out to Condi and talked in detail about his loveless marriage to Laura–and once he even told Condi he wanted to be by his side” said the source.
Things got so bad that by the time the Bushes left the White House they were living in separate places. He is living on the ranch in Crawford, Texas, while Laura stays at the £2 million house in Dallas that he bought for her.
Now the newly discovered emails are sure to spell even more trouble for the ex-president, experts say. “Thought George and Condi have always denied having an affair, laura never really believed him” reveals the source “There was too much smoke, too many rumours.
“Now if some of those 22 million emails turn out to be love letters to Rice, George is going to have a lot of explaining to do”
http://www.afrosaxonheat.com/2010/02/10/george-bush-and-condoleeza-rice-affair-revealed-love-letters-to-condi-from-bush-found-at-white-house/
By Howard Kurtz
May 15, 2001
Florida Gov. Jeb Bush yesterday took the extraordinary step of denying rumors that he had an extramarital affair with a state official, calling the talk "an outright lie" and "sickening."
Responding forcefully to a reporter's question after a bill-signing in Tallahassee, the president's younger brother said: "These are lies spread by gossip and it's ugly and it's hurtful to my wife and it's hurtful to my family and it's hurtful to other families. I imagine it is political in nature, I do not know."
Bush had denied the affair in off-the-record conversations with several Tallahassee reporters Friday, but decided to go public yesterday after the rumors were repeated on the Internet and in several Florida newspapers and one British paper.
The woman in question is Cynthia Henderson, an attorney named by Bush to be secretary of Florida's Department of Management Services. She is also, as several accounts have noted, a former Playboy bunny.
In choosing to deny the rumors, Bush, 48, faced the dilemma that he was opening the door for news organizations to report them. But advisers say he was concerned that the gossip was reaching critical mass.
At the news conference that followed the bill-signing, an emotional Bush told Mark Silva, the Orlando Sentinel political editor who raised the issue: "The fact that you have to ask that question and I have to answer it is sickening." He said he has been "faithful" to his wife of 27 years, Columba.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/05/15/jeb-bush-denies-rumors-of-affair-with-state-official/ffaecc53-72c7-4042-bd16-831501d463df/?utm_term=.b1d2247079d3
That's the most unheard-of thing I've ever heard of.
That's Pair o'labiamajora
Two pair o'labia and I'll see your "full bush".
.. and Interception Georgia! Go Dawgs. Will Bama fall the same day as the House of Bush? Stay tuned... PS. Smells like vag. sweat in here. You guys OK?
Columba was the shoplifters, right? Famous mug shot. Can't you people let the past go with the now-exposed legacy / myths?
You think bush Jr. will be hitting on Michelle o. at this funeral with Laura and Barry there?
Good grief, you're plumbing the depths,
Every single reporter interview starts with something that insults the other person sitting there. The democrat media is the enemy of the people.
"paralipsis" - glad to see the definition in the post. At first I thought it had something to do with the bend in Clinton's crank, but that is "pyronies's" disease.
Matthew Sablan,
"I hope someone is searching some archives for the Bush Sr is a Nazi posts and articles to break out on liberal commentators over the next week."
Not going there, but in the WaPo I found a piece by George Will that ended thus:
"Bush earned the lasting admiration of a discerning posterity, a judgment more important than the one rendered by the
undiscerning electorate that in 1992 limited him to one term."
Which is well put. But nowhere in the column does he suggest that he himself may have been wrong about the man, or anyway unfair to him. In the runup to Nov 92 - I can't find this but I well remember it - he publicly wrote that he would cast a write-in vote for Jack Kemp. Only about two decades later did I hear him state in an interview that he had in fact voted to reelect the first President Bush.
Will was one of two critics - the other was Garry Trudeau - that Bush said he wouldn't forgive. In Will's case it was for this discerning 1986 take:
"The unpleasant sound Bush is emitting as he traipses from one conservative gathering to another is a thin, tinny "arf" -- the sound of a lapdog. He is panting along Mondale's path to the presidency."
Socrates never deployed paralipsis, except once, in the Phaedo, I think (I am going by memory here).
Jesus used paralipsis all the time.
In my lifetime, WC Fields is the guy who was best at it.
or Mae West ...
who once was rebuked by a judge during a trial for her back talk ....
Ma'am are you trying to show contempt for the court, asked the judge ...
Mae replied ...
On the contrary your honor I was doing my best to conceal it
"accused HW of being both stupid _scanner Fake News story)"
In the '90's, Gary Trudeau had a running joke on Doonesbury about HW's brain. "Ha, ha, he's a dumbbell!"
During that time, Christopher Buckley ran into Trudeau in an elevator and noticed that the latter was wearing a military style bomber jacket. Buckley reminded him that, unlike Trudeau, Bush had actually flown in real combat missions.
But the Bushes were kind enough to forget and forgive all the insults hurled at them by the media. It's not gentlemanly to fight back, I guess. The media likes that kind of Republican.
Punching bag *It's not gentlemanly to fight back, I guess. The media likes that kind of Republican.*
Trump has spikes (camouflage he looks cushiony)
I like it, but it would be better if the person asking these Democrat party questions would get slammed over the head with a heavy fish just for asking. Might lead to a tradition where someone asking stupid, insulting and antagonistic questions "gets the fish".
Either a fish or a floor safe dropped on their head...
JPS said... George Will ()publicly wrote that he would cast a write-in vote for Jack Kemp.
Interesting!
So George Will, Never Trumper, didn't approve of HW? And called him lap dog to conservatives?
So ...
he HATES Trump because he's mean (to dems), and does things that conservatives Say they want?
he HATED HW because he wasn't mean (to repubs), and did things that conservatives Say they want?
But don't Forget! George Will is a REAL CONSERVATIVE! the sort that hoped that Hillary would win 49 states
It goes without saying.
you cant say anything without a paralips
Reminds me of that video of Clinton fans that's been making the rounds of the pro-freedom blogosphere during the past few days. They're attending some event in Montreal where they'll be getting the thrill of seeing and perhaps meeting the Godfather and Godmother of Arkansas' leading crime family in person. A respectable, middle-aged guy with a microphone approaches the attendees in small groups, outside the theater, and chats with them amiably, long enough to establish that they are indeed Clinton fans. Then he asks them if "in this age of #MeToo," they'll be re-evaluating the Clintons in light of Monica Lewinsky and the various sex scandals. The Clinton fans suddenly stop chatting with him and virtually run away from him into the theater. It's pretty funny.
President Trump: "Thank you very much everybody."
President AllenS: "Fuck off."
Blogger gilbar said...
So George Will, Never Trumper, didn't approve of HW? And called him lap dog to conservatives?
So ...
he HATES Trump because he's mean (to dems), and does things that conservatives Say they want?
he HATED HW because he wasn't mean (to repubs), and did things that conservatives Say they want?
George Will is a 'manners' conservative, in that maintaining decorum is in the end more important to him for people on his politician side of the aisle to follow than actual policy. Actions he might agree with, enacted by a Philistine, are still distateful (this is the guy who wrote a column decrying the barbarianism of blue jeans in the workplace).
In George HW Bush's case, Will's 'lapdog' comment came in 1986, after the VP's comments attacking Mario Cuomo, where Will also was irked in his column about Bush's comments following his 1984 debate against Geraldine Ferraro. He didn't think a proper Republican should be talking like that, and chastised Bush.
All of that was forgotten in Will's Sunday column on Bush's passing (though if you read between the lines some of the critique is still there). But if he was up in arms 32 years about about HW violating Will's feelings on what public discourse should be for conservatives, you can imagine how bad a case of the vapors Trump's provided over the past 3 1/2 years.
I'm not saying Barbara Bush was the only worthwhile Bush or that Michelle Obama is the only worthwhile Obama or that Socks Clinton was the only worthwhile Clinton.
But I could do without all the others.
Unfortunately, Meade, Socks Clinton visited his litter box at the wrong time and saw something he shouldn't have. He was found with two bullets in him. The ASPCA was going to look into it, but after a visit from Moose and Rocco, two of Hillary's "business associates," Socks' death was ruled a suicide. May he frolic in fields of heavenly catnip with Kathleen Willey's cat.
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