Okay! I'll take the challenge. I recommend the video, because it's acted out amusingly, very entertaining:
But here's the text, because Trump did say "you better read that again." And reading is great for the kind of textualism that any lawsuit to enforce a contract would have to focus on:
But let's say I'm debating Pocahontas. I promise you I'll do this: I will take, you know those little kits they sell on television... learn your heritage!... And in the middle of the debate, when she proclaims that she is of Indian heritage because her mother said she has high cheek bones. That;s her only evidence, her mother said we have high cheek bones.All right, the conditions for accepting the offer by taking the test have not yet arisen. There has been no debate and certainly no proclaiming of Indian heritage in the middle of a debate. I don't think Elizabeth Warren would ever make the relevant proclamation. But she certainly hasn't done it yet.
We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to be very gentle. And we will very gently take that kit, and we will slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't hit her and injure her arm, even though it only weighs 2 ounces, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian.So the test to be taken is the one that Trump would toss to Warren in the middle of a debate. Obviously, that hasn't happened yet, and who thinks it ever would happen? Trump isn't going to throw something at Warren during a debate, even gently. It's a comical scenario, and we don't even need to argue with people who might say he really meant it, because it's plainly true that Trump has not yet tossed a DNA test kit at Warren during a presidential debate. She has not taken that test, and that's the only test he spoke of, and it's all purely hypothetical. There's no offer to accept, and what Warren did wasn't what Trump was talking about.
But if somehow a court would say that the test she did (allegedly) take is good enough, there would still be the question whether the result "shows [she's] an Indian." I don't think it does, but can you imagine Warren bringing a lawsuit and trying to convince a court that a DNA test indicating 1/32nd or only 1/1,024th Native American genes "shows you're an Indian"? I think it would be worth it to Trump to pay the $1 million to get her to do that.
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I can’t speak for Chuck, but it’s been a great day for me. Warren made fools out of you folks and Trump.
Birkel: "But here comes every Leftist - like Royal ass Inga - to defend Democrat Party racism from the 1880s."
Why not?
The lefties are also out calling for the overthrow of the government, secession, tossing out the constitution, tossing out the Bill of Rights (free speech, due process, gun rights), calling for the abolition of the Supreme Court (Tushnet was particular amusing in that as just 2 years ago, when Hillary was sure to win, was calling for the courts to simply assume all power and rule in a lefty fashion)....
And on and on and on.
Tough week for the left/dems/LLR's.
Inga: "I can’t speak for Chuck, but it’s been a great day for me. Warren made fools out of you folks and Trump"
Apparently, no one told the Cherokee Nation chieftains about that!!
LOLOLOLOL
And you most certainly can speak for LLR Chuck. After all, why not? You are peas in a pod.
So now we have Inga calling the Cherokee Nation leaders fools.
LOL
I did not expect that. But then again, I didn't expect the stream of racist and homophobic invective and attacking of children that LLR Chuck has engaged in, but there it is....
Cook is wrong again. She DID claim to be a member of a tribe by checking a box on a federal form that said not to check the box unless you are a registered member of a tribe.
I'll bet Inga can't wait for tomorrow morning after which her History Reset Button will fire off and everything that happened today will be gone forever.
Craig,
Which part did you find fraudulent?
Was it the recitation of fact that Democrats instituted the racist one drop rule?
Or was it the observation that Democrats continue to forward the racist one drop rule?
Ken B: "Cook is wrong again. She DID claim to be a member of a tribe by checking a box on a federal form that said not to check the box unless you are a registered member of a tribe"
I expect we will see a great deal of lying on behalf of Warren by LLR Chuck, Inga, Cookie, et al in the days and weeks to come.
It would be interesting to know how many of Warren's ancestors, if any, lived in Oklahoma six generations ago.
IDK if Trump owes the bet, but he'd be crazy not to take political advantage of it. Donate a mil to actual reservations, or perhaps better yet, build a Trump Casino or two for them.
Real Clear Politics Genetic Vote
Democrats up by 11, last Poll 10/8-10/11. RCP average Democrats up by 7.3. It’s been a great week for Democrats.
buster: "It would be interesting to know how many of Warren's ancestors, if any, lived in Oklahoma six generations ago."
The only Warren relatives in Oklahoma were busy abusing Native Americans and then Li'l Tomahawk decides now would be a good time to try and clean up how she stole their identity to advance her own careers.
tsk tsk tsk
And I see Inga is playing Baghdad Bob now.
Looks like Inga has surrendered the issue and offers up more safe space polling comfort!
Too funny.
Transparent.
Don't be a fuckhead and vote Democratic.
“And I see Inga is playing Baghdad Bob now.”
Maybe you should try viewing realty without your Trump glasses on.
Two weeks before the 2016 election Hillary was reported up by 12 points.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/23/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html
That was a great week!
Inga will be a fuckhead and vote Democratic.
Rt1 Rebel: "And I see Inga is playing Baghdad Bob now."
Inga is in a tough spot now.
By lefty rules she can't defend Warren against the Cherokee Leaders, so, as expected, Inga beats a hasty retreat.
Inga will lose.
Again.
“Looks like Inga has surrendered the issue and offers up more safe space polling comfort!”
Warren won this and proved you all wrong. I have no need to surrender, we won, you lost.
Proof of her lack of Native American credentials lies in the old saw from Sherlock Holmes, "The dog that didn't bark." If Warren truly believed she was a Cherokee, when she won the senate seat Massachusetts liberals would have hailed this as a first, first Native American woman! It would still be echoing around the Commonwealth and I dear say would probably be on her business card. She knew she was a fraud, she explained it to party leaders, so they shut up about it. Didn't bark about it.
I said Obama would win twice...and he did!
Ha!
Inga, I don't have Trump glasses. Trump isn't leading this mess you and your ilk created, he is capitalizing on it, and I see it every day with my own clear eyes.
Yeah, since my grandfather was born on the Res at Fort Sill, I don't understand all the racism displayed by Warren.
Cultural appropriation, if it were a thing, straight up!
Inga: "Maybe you should try viewing realty without your Trump glasses on."
When I view "realty" with my Trump glasses on, all the buildings have "Trump" emblazoned across the front.
Which is strange, because the lefties told us that Trump never built anything and had no money, which was right before the lefties told us that Trump was a rich out of touch republican, which was right before the lefties told us that Trump was making too much money, which was right before the lefties told us that Trump was using his influence to expand his global empire, which doesn't really exist......etc etc etc..
LOL
We do not want Warren's kind.
Inga: "Warren won this and proved you all wrong."
Yikes!
Inga declares the entire Cherokee Tribe leadership a part of the republican party.
No don't get me wrong, we welcome them! But I don't think its appropriate for some white chick in WI to declare that some white chick in Boston has overruled Native American tribal leaders.
But then again, I'm not fully up to speed on the latest and greatest Lefty RuleBook which, even now, is undergoing it's hourly rewrite.
Warren’s DNA test results proved she has indigenous American DNA.
Full stop.
You folks are poor losers.
I understand that Robert Mueller has included this DNA "test" (LOL) in the portfolio of Russian Collusion transgressions that require investigation.
Inga: "Warren’s DNA test results proved she has indigenous American DNA."
LOL
OMG
You are a nurse, right? And you still get this wrong?
I'm starting to wonder if Inga can even read.
"shows you're an Indian"
She never claimed she was "an Indian" you dummy, but that she had Indian ancestry - which is nothing less than what's claimed by people with even more tenuous connection to the Mayflower pilgrims claim their descent from that. What racism must be at work to compel someone to set a higher standard for claiming a proud connection to the ancient peoples of this land than to some hapless Europeans on a boat centuries earlier.
You guys are racists even when you don't know it.
Looking at the video I noticed that Trump has high cheekbones, really just as high as Elizabeth Warren. Both have Scottish blood and many Scots have high cheekbones. Maybe Trump should be tested and see how much "Native American" DNA he has. Maybe he has more than Warren. And when they ran against each other it could be Pocahonto v. Pocahontas. They could hold the Pocahontix debates
PPPT: "You guys are racists even when you don't know it."
The "One-Drop" crew just showed up to decry racism!
You can't make this stuff up.
Genetic counselor and historian wanna-be Drecko does his delusional laughter-for-no-reason routine once again - probably this time for knowing even less about DNA than Michael T. Kennedy, who claimed that "Craig Venter discovered the human genome."
"Warren’s DNA test results proved she has indigenous American DNA.
Full stop."
Full Lulz
Reasons given for Lizzie Warren's heritage lies:
1) Some guy who discovered the human genome.
Let's see what else PPPT comes up with.
The "One-Drop" crew just showed up to decry racism!
You can't make this stuff up.
Make what up? The fact that you think she should shamefully suppress her non-European ancestry while we have no problem with what she found?
Sounds like you're the racist to me.
The leaders of the Cherokee nation cannot take away the truth of her DNA results, nor can you folks. She will probably win the Presidency in 2020 and all the over the top Warren Derangment Syndrome on display today reveals your testicle shriveling fear of this woman and her power to bring out the Democratic base and independents in droves.
Your fear and loathing of this woman is transparent.
Reasons given for Lizzie Warren's heritage lies:
That's not what I said.
I said that much like your fellow ignoramus MTK you don't even know what DNA is.
But your stupid goes well with your hatred. They kind of fuel each other.
It's like you can't become decent without becoming intelligent or something.
Reasons given for Lizzie Warren's heritage lies:
1) Some guy who discovered the human genome.
2) I (Drago) am alleged to not know what DNA is.
Let's see what else PPPT comes up with.
Yep. Baghdad Bob has nothing on our Inga.
Reasons given for Lizzie Warren's heritage lies:
1) Some guy who discovered the human genome.
2) I (Drago) am alleged to not know what DNA is.
3) My alleged inability to become decent without also becoming intelligent or something
Let's see what else PPPT comes up with.
Let's see what else PPPT comes up with.
I'm happy to catalog every bit of information you're too stupid to know anything about, and too blinded by hatred to learn about sooner than it takes for you to rapid machine-gun fire out a reply just for the sake of proving that it pissed you off to listen to me comment intelligently about the actual facts at hand.
Reasons given for Lizzie Warren's heritage lies:
1) Some guy who discovered the human genome.
2) I (Drago) am alleged to not know what DNA is.
3) My alleged inability to become decent without also becoming intelligent or something
4) My being the subject of some sort of PPPT "catalog"
Let's see what else PPPT comes up with.
Reasons given for Lizzie Warren's heritage lies:
1) Some guy who discovered the human genome.
2) I (Drago) am alleged to not know what DNA is.
3) My alleged inability to become decent without also becoming intelligent or something
4) My being the subject of some sort of PPPT "catalog"
5) Fear of "strong women"
Let's see what else PPPT AND Inga come up with.
@Ken B You beat me to it!
"A federal judge in California dismissed a lawsuit brought by Stormy Daniels against President Donald Trump that accused him of defaming her in a tweet.
U.S. District Judge S. James Otero in Los Angeles ruled on Monday that the former adult-film star, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, must pay Mr. Trump’s legal fees in the case." (WSJ)
Small victory, but a good one.
Perhaps someone (with better credentials) will come forward who was denied the position at Penn/Harvard that Warren took.
My alleged inability to become decent without also becoming intelligent or something -
Oh, it's not alleged, but proved every time you open your fat, foaming motor-mouth.
You must be a real treat to take on a date. I'm glad to know what obsessions tonight keep you from having a normal Monday evening with a companion who might actually be able to put up with you.
You should try calming down when you get this idiotic. Ever try Ritalin?
PPPT sides with the Plessy majority and supports the Democrat's racist one drop rule.
I did NOT see that coming.
Let's see what else PPPT AND Inga...
can recognize as Drecko making the discussion about himself and his many issues, rather than the facts that are relevant to this story Althouse posted about.
The answer is: We recognize every time you do it.
JHapp: "Perhaps someone (with better credentials) will come forward who was denied the position at Penn/Harvard that Warren took"
Any minority who thought for a moment they could come out as the victim of Li'l Tomahawk's heritage lies would never work in academia again. Ever. In fact, he or she would get the full Clarence Thomas/Kanye/Condoleeza Rice/Shelby Steele/Thomas Sowell treatment and be called a race traitor.
In about 15 seconds.
“A federal judge in California dismissed a lawsuit brought by Stormy Daniels against President Donald Trump that accused him of defaming her in a tweet.”
Who the fuck cares? You people act as if this is important. No on on the left cares. There are much bigger fish to fry.
Reasons given for Lizzie Warren's heritage lies:
1) Some guy who discovered the human genome.
2) I (Drago) am alleged to not know what DNA is.
3) My alleged inability to become decent without also becoming intelligent or something
4) My being the subject of some sort of PPPT "catalog"
5) Fear of "strong women"
6) My alleged inability to keep this conversation from focusing on me
Let's see what else PPPT AND Inga come up with.
“The answer is: We recognize every time you do it.”
Indeed. He is an attention whore.
OMG!Both the Brewers and the Packers are playing on National TV tonight. Meade will need a Tranquilizer.
Inga: "Who the fuck cares? You people act as if this is important. No on on the left cares."
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Ladies and gentlemen, it doesn't get any more "Inga" than that!
So, to summarize: no one, and I mean NO ONE, on the left cares about Stormy Daniels, her lawyer and the case they lodged against Trump!!
Yes. Inga wrote that. Just now.
Lit-er-al-ly!
Inga: "Indeed. He is an attention whore."
Inga takes time out from her constant posting to complain about others.
Just now.
Without irony.
PPPT sides with the Plessy majority and supports the Democrat's racist one drop rule.
That case was about discriminating against minorities.
This case is also about how people like you are ashamed of minorities.
What's wrong with any ancestry on her part to the Amerindians? I don't see anything wrong with it and find it interesting. But for some reason it bothers you.
There are more documentaries every year on the 1 - 3% Neanderthal DNA that non-Africans possess and what we can learn about that, than there ever will be on this story. And yet, it won't generate anywhere near as much controversy or outrage on the part of you silly racist fools.
Fascinating that you are more comfortable hearing people talk about their connection to cavemen (a separate species) than to the Amerindians. Fascinating in that it shows you have more contempt for the latter than the former.
That's pretty racist. You reserve more contempt for Amerindians and someone's ancestral connection to them than for Neanderthals. Wow. That's something.
Man, that History Reset Button cannot come fast enough for Inga tonight!
Inga takes time out from her constant posting to complain about others.
That's because she actually thinks before she posts.
You just post to prove that you exist.
What's it like to have so few people in your life that will acknowledge your existence, Drecko? Pretty lonely, eh?
Details count in situations such as this. The DNA comparison wasn't to native North Americans, it was to South Americans. I doubt Okalahoma had many Peruvian Inca hanging around in great-great-great grandma's day.
Now, Inga, you know damn well that if the judge's decision had been the opposite you would have been up in the rafters crowing that it was finally the end of Trump. I don't care about the decision other than for its entertainment value. I just think it's amusing that when this actually got into court it turned into a nothing burger.
wait.. ..what?
Elizabeth Warren’s DNA Test Is ‘Useless,’ ‘Inappropriate and Wrong’ Cherokee Nation Official Says
Diversity hire for paleface = not a good look. Perhaps Stormy breast implants might help?
The racist policies of 1880s Democrats motivates Democrat racists 130 years later.
Impressive consistency.
indigenous DNA = new hotness.
or is it a new hotmess? ...when you use it to grant yourself special diversity hire.
Warren is not very smart. She played this, with no concept of the repercussions. How is she going to handle foreign affairs, if she screws up this little parlor game, and she was the only person playing.?
-1/1054th is statistically Zero.
-There is no "Native American DNA" Only Mexican,Colombian,Peruvian, Native American.
Indistinguishable from each other
How exactly did Warren think this would play out? The stupidity on display is staggering. This on top of doing it before the election. Blowing up the messaging for all the Democrats, shifting focus to Warren, for no earthly reason.
Not showing any political savvy at all.
Details count in situations such as this. The DNA comparison wasn't to native North Americans, it was to South Americans. I doubt Okalahoma had many Peruvian Inca hanging around in great-great-great grandma's day.
If that's the case, it's because they were a lot less different than you think. I'm sure North and South American DNA is incredibly more similar to each other than to European - close enough for one to probably serve as a proxy for the other. That's the more likely explanation, since for a South American to have made their way up to wherever Warren's ancestors were is a lot less likely. Some of these tribes up this way are probably too few to have strong pools of reference markers, anyway.
From what I have read there are, in fact, some real weaknesses in the DNA analysis such as using South American DNA for comparison purposes. Does it matter? Not really. That Harvard disgraced itself and that Warren took advantage of Harvard's disgrace is, as Ann said initially, the really bad thing here.
The extent to which this harmless and interesting finding bothers the right wing is very telling about how poorly-adjusted they are when it comes to normal ways of understanding and accommodating heritage and history.
But is that any surprise? It's always something with these weird racist fools.
The Cherokee Nation has an express policy about giving DNA databases samples.
PPPT thinks that means Cherokee = Peruvian.
Another for the list, Drago.
How many dozen posts did Igna make about Stormy Daniels over the last year? It was a big deal before today. What could have happened to change that? Bueller? Anyone?
“Now, Inga, you know damn well that if the judge's decision had been the opposite you would have been up in the rafters crowing that it was finally the end of Trump.”
I never got excited over anything Avenatti was doing. I didn’t for a minute think he had enough on Trump to be enough of what it took to get rid of him...but others do.
PowerLine has a good take on the Warren business.
Tell us about your GGGGGGGG Grandfather and how he affects your heritage, PPPT.
“How many dozen posts did Igna make about Stormy Daniels over the last year? It was a big deal before today. What could have happened to change that? Bueller? Anyone?”
Not many at all, why don’t you go find some and post them here?
There's also this:
https://www.scribd.com/document/291583983/Rutgers-Shuchman
How does the one drop from your GGGGGGGG Grandfather separate you from the 1880s Democrats?
Senator 1/1024
That Harvard disgraced itself...
I'm quite amused listening to someone as poorly educated as the person I quoted going on about "Harvard disgracing itself."
Warren's ancestry played no role in any position she ever attained.
You people need to calm the fuck down. Seriously.
She has Amerindian ancestry. So do many. No, she won't suppress that or go along with your efforts to shame her over that.
There's nothing wrong with it.
You remind me of the repressed homosexuals who need to get out of the closet. Quit pretending you can find anything to shame her for in researching her roots. It's a normal thing to do. What's not normal is your obsessive-compulsive need to deprive her of any positive, proud or even neutral feeling about that.
If you hate your ancestry that's your business, not hers. Get over your stupid selves already.
Inga, Inga, Inga. Come on, you have been salivating over every bump in the road for Trump! I am, however, happy to see that you are as cynical about Avenatti as most of the rest of America. Can you imagine him running for the Democratic nomination? I am not sure that he is that much more of a phony than Corey Booker. It would be fun to watch them debate!
I like the wide latitude American Law gives to speak, especially when it potential libel defamation bullshit. Interesting Trump has previously opined that US should have strict narrow Euro-type libel laws to help him silence his critics.
This is the opposite case of being hoist on his own pretard. #tiredofwinning
Inga: "Not many at all, why don’t you go find some and post them here?"
History Reset Activate!
BIrkel is certainly the first dope anyone researching molecular clocks would seek out - to avoid.
Apparently he's another one of those asshats who thinks that language/nation = genes.
Your fuehrer is calling.
Craig, I see is another blank profile troll.
“Blowing up the messaging for all the Democrats, shifting focus to Warren, for no earthly reason.
Not showing any political savvy at all.”
Oh boy. Could you have possibly misread any more what this means to Democrats? What do you think the messaging is for Democrats? I bet you have no idea, but you think you do. Her releasing this before the midterms is huge and was brilliant.
Ritmo and Inga thread now. de Gaulle is almost finished but more interesting than this nonsense.
Michael K just decided to drop in and tell us about Craig’s blank profile page and to let us know that he’s going to go read his book. Now that is fascinating!
You made more than two dozen comments on this Stormy Daniels thread alone, Inga.
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/05/trump-reimbursed-cohen-for-130000.html?commentPage=2&m=1
Lulz
I'm getting the feeling none of these shitheads has seen that interesting PBS special Henry Louis Gates hosts.
They are the dictionary definition of culturally impoverished.
They really do hate themselves - or feel ashamed, or anxious, and think that Warren should hate her own roots as well.
These people have heritage anxiety, apparently. It's weird.
Inga: "Oh boy. Could you have possibly misread any more what this means to Democrats?"
LOL
Jim Messina (obama campaign manager)
✔
@Messina2012
Argue the substance all you want, but why 22 days before a crucial election where we MUST win house and senate to save America, why did @SenWarren have to do her announcement now?
Inga is fantastic.
And so is PPPT.
Personally I intend to go visit the high mountain remains of ancient Incan villages in Oklahoma this summer.
I hope I dont get altitude sickness.
I was surprised to find from the Warren Report that the average European has some stretches of DNA that are characteristically "Native American." This raises the question whether EU citizens will be able to claim minority status in the USA if Warren is elected our first Native American President and EU citizens apply to an American university. But this can wait. Meanwhile the point is that Elizabeth Warren was always going to have some Native American DNA even if she was of unadmixed European descent. But Bustamente is claiming that Warren has MORE Native American DNA than the average European with NO Native American ancestors so she must have at least ONE native American ancestor. This estimate is based on the average amount of Native American DNA found in 185 Europeans selected for comparison by the Stanford profs.
But how much Native American DNA is really characteristic of unadmixed Europeans? How was the Stanford sample of unadmixed Europeans selected? Where were these unadmixed Europeans from? Some Norse and Swedes have Sami or Inuit blood and as Vikings they attacked and settled in Scotland and England. It may be the North British people, the Scots and others, and their descendants, like Warren, characteristically have more "Native American" DNA than Greeks or Italians.
And what behavior patterns go along with the Chromosome 10 variation that Warren has? Does it make you shout when you give speeches? Does it make you want to sort people into tribes and to attack the other tribes? This is what the Stanford profs are really studying so it's legit to ask the question.
So Inga and Ritmo are on the record as saying you can claim racial benefits if you are 1/1024 of a minority? That such a small drop of blood (actually, about 500 drops, if you take 1/1024 of the amount of human blood) is enough to make you a minority.
Then who isn't a minority? I myself think I had a black ancestor somewhere back along the way. I can get affirmative action now? Also, go back into the 1400's and there's a King of England too lurking amidst my ancestors. Can I claim part of the throne of England? And family lore has an Indian back in the 1800's too.. .closer than than Squaw Warren has. Why aren't I a Harvard Professor?
Also: Lots of misinformation about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints upthread, which you guys call the Mormon church. There is no charging for any genealogy history, at all. That's either an incredibly misinformed position, or an outright lie. We do collect as much as we can as the doctrine is simple: How does Jesus save people who never heard of Him in this life, and at the same time require things like baptism? Peter talked about preaching to the dead. And those here on earth can be baptized on their behalf, but the dead are free to accept or reject such a thing. But for those who accept, they are allowed to keep the commandment, even if they could not have done so on earth.
Charging for that kind of thing would be far worse than indulgences. So while Inga and her side would no doubt do it (hey, Hillary promised to save everyone, as long as you donate to the Clinton Foundation.....), the Church does not.
Michael K just decided to drop in and tell us about Craig’s blank profile page and to let us know that he’s going to go read his book. Now that is fascinating!
Oh, I know. I couldn't wait.
All day long I wait to hear random dispatches from an 80-year old retired colorectal surgeon from Laguna Niguel.
First it's books read, then commenter profiles researched. Next it will be what sofa cushion he farts into.
His nursemaid was always very intimately curious about him like that, you know? She needed to know everything about his day as a 3-year old. He expects that normal adults are too, apparently.
Personally I intend to go visit the high mountain remains of ancient Incan villages in Oklahoma this summer.
When you're caught being a dumbass doubling down on the "language = genes" fallacy, the first thing to ask is if you're Republican enough to avoid embarrassment at being revealed to be ignorant of yet another basic scientific reality of life in the modern age.
I see why these people are so insecure. The only thing left that they're proud of is literally how stupid they are.
Michael K: "Ritmo and Inga thread now. de Gaulle is almost finished but more interesting than this nonsense."
2 things I loved about de Gaulle: he had a daughter with Down Syndrome and govt officials reported how de Gaulle, in the middle of busy days, would get down on the floor and play with Anne while visitors waited.
De gaulle was also the one who told Nixon to take at least 30 minutes each day to walk to help focus on important issues.
Of course, nowadays in Europe the lefties work diligently to ensure these children are wiped out.
You know, for their own good....
How are people (like ANn in her title) coming up with 1/32? At least 6 generations back is what the genetiics tester said, which I say is 1/64. He said 6 to 10 generations back, which taking the middle case (8) as most llikely, would mean 1/512.
It's not unusual to read a lot of books, but it is to brag about it and report in to say so every night. Michael T. Kennedy is another one having a companion-less evening.
Sad.
PPPT references molecular clocks in order to advance his defense of 1880s racist Democrats who created the one drop rule.
What a clever and imaginative non sequitur.
PPPT: "When you're caught being a dumbass doubling down on the "language = genes" fallacy..."
I have no idea what language Oklahoman-Incan-Cherokees spoke or speak but I can say that they all love barbecue.
Without exception.
But not that vinegar-y Carolina stuff. I mean beef.
And Alpaca.
Definitely alpaca!
2 things I loved about de Gaulle: he had a daughter with Down Syndrome and govt officials reported how de Gaulle, in the middle of busy days, would get down on the floor and play with Anne while visitors waited.
Just because you're stupid enough to be diagnosed with Down Syndrome doesn't mean you have to be jealous of the time a French prime minister spent with a daughter of his you identify with, Drago.
“So Inga and Ritmo are on the record as saying you can claim racial benefits if you are 1/1024 of a minority?”
Where did either of us say that? Are you hearing voices in again?
PPPT: "Just because you're stupid enough to be diagnosed with Down Syndrome doesn't mean you have to be jealous of the time a French prime minister spent with a daughter of his you identify with, Drago."
Yikes!
PPPT seems very angry young Anne escaped her lefty would be butchers.
For the record, I am proud to say I identify with these beautiful children.
@PPPT The Harvard Crimson ( the college paper) published an article on October 22, 1996 regarding diversity of Harvard Law School faculty : "Although the conventional wisdom among students and faculty is that the Law School faculty includes no minority women, Chmura said Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren is Native American." Here's the link to the entire article. Obviously that information came from HLS personnel records supplied by Warren. Harvard, perhaps, wasn't disgraced so much as mislead, or less kindly, duped by Warren.
One thing this "uneducated" commenter did learn at Harvard was how to do research.
What does 19th century social policy have to do with researching your roots, Birkel? You know, this isn't something people have to be ashamed of or hide any longer. They actually actively research these family histories out now. The conservatives these days aren't calling for their segregation, so they can do that. Even if you're still calling for them to suppress (shamefully?) these enlightening forays into personal family history.
What the hell kind of creepy clutter is creaking around in your family tree that you are so afraid of what people researching their lineage are interested in finding, Birkel?
Why the anxiety? Explain your weirdness!
At any rate it’s been a hoot to see you Trumpists going bat shit crazy over Warren proving she didn’t lie about her heritage. As I said, it’s telling that you folks have such a fear of her.
We are as fearful of Warren as we were of Hillary.
LOL
For the record, I am proud to say I identify with these beautiful children.
Then get on the short bus already and stop pretending to participate in informed conversations. Trisomy 21 kids at least have the sense to not scream and shout when they don't understand something.
“We are as fearful of Warren as we were of Hillary.”
Then you’re dumber than I thought.
Not to worry, if you think Booker or Harris are going to let that faker off the racial hook in the primary, well, I've got a Al Gore-Willie Horton Attack Against Dukakis-Bridge to sell to you!
Someone (with a black-and-white avatar) is having trouble sticking to the (or any) point.
PPPT: "Trisomy 21 kids at least have the sense to not scream and shout when they don't understand something."
You've never actually spent time around these kids, have you?
They behave in all the same ways other
kids do.
I dont see black and white.
I only see great comedic art.
Trump should donate $1m to the Cherokee Nation
PPPT, now I understand your confusion.
You see, you support the racist policies forwarded by Democrats way back in the 1880s.
But only like Democrats always have.
And using a nonsensical rounding error as a reason to claim affirmative action relies on the same racist, Democrat policies.
Stop it, racist.
They behave in all the same ways other
kids do.
The way that you do?
The good news, as I wrote earlier, is that we are all Native American now!
I almost feel compelled to explain why I hate the "grey hairs", though perhaps that was just a Huron thing.
You can always count on Birkel to say something almost as stupid as it is pointless. Every time.
It's what he lives to do. To find the irrelevancy in everything that passes through his primitive cerebrum.
PPPT: "The way that you do?"
Yes, the way that we all do.
Look, we get it. You see them, as do leftists in general, as somehow lesser and not deserving of consideration.
This dehumanization is necessary for the lefties to justify the killing.
I enjoy the consistency. I do not support affirmative action. I think policies based on race offend the Constitution.
PPPT is consistent. He prefers racist policies. Democrats from the 1880s approve. The one drop rule abides.
It's good to know that even a rudimentary knowledge of English won't keep Birkel from not making any sense!
I'd ask Birkel to explain what he means, but of course even he doesn't know.
You know how the lefties in Iceland termed the 100% execution rate for babies diagnosed with DS?
"Curing" it.
Literally.
On top of that, a judge tosses Michael Avenetti's latest nonsensical suit against Trump and orders Stormy Daniels to pay Trump!
Tough day for Inga and Chuck.
"Tough day" for me? What are you talking about?
I could not care less about Michael Avenatti, whose attempt to hurt Justice Kavanaugh went nowhere. As for Stormy Daniels, she seems to have helped get Michael Cohen convicted, in an Information that identified "a candidate for federal office." Hmmmm, who could that be?
I think Stormy Daniels' work is all done. She showed Trump (claiming that he knew nothing about any payments and that reporters should "ask Michael") up as a colossal liar. And she probably made certain that Trump -- if his corpulent obesity does not yet rule out any erections -- isn't getting laid for the next two years.
In the wake of Kavanaugh, I am very pleased to see Avenatti get hit with a litigation loss.
Inga, I know you are a Democrat, so we have to use short words for your comprehension.
Warren is on record as claiming she is, for all intents and purposes, Native American. One of those intents and purposes was to be hired at Harvard as a "woman of color". In fact, as Harvard Law School's first "Woman of color." She traded on it, she used her alleged ancestry as a Native American to claim to be a minority female, which increased her "status" as a leftist.
Now, she's released this report. "See, I DO have native american ancestry! I didn't lie!" So, presumably, she is now fully justified to check off that "Native American" checkbox.
Right? Or did she lie, Inga?
Is Warren justified in claiming affirmative action benefits due to her Native American ancestry? Yes or no, Inga? Her 1/1024 amount of Native American ancestry? Her "one drop" ?
You leftists are dancing around, saying "Suck it, losers! She DOES have native american ancestry! She's vindicated, Trump's a liar!" Well, she has 1/1024 percent native american ancestry. What does that prove? Does that give her special status? Apparently yes, because you guys are jumping up and down with glee. That 1/1024 drop of Indian Blood justifies her calling herself a minority and claiming benefits reserved for minority use.
Right? If not... then she's not proven anything, has she? Her pittance of Native American blood is not worth warm spittle. Just like my one Indian ancestor how many generations back doesn't qualify me for anything, it doesn't for her.
To claim otherwise, as you are doing, is just Democrats bringing back Plessy and the "one drop" rule. Racist much?
Consideration?
If Drago had a brain, he might understand that you don't have to look down on someone/something as "lesser," dehumanize or kill to simply recognize that they're not capable of something. Cruelty and incapability are not the same thing.
I wouldn't beat or kill a dog, but I also wouldn't read it Shakespeare. Drago unfortunately cannot make these distinctions, however.
Vance: Why do Mormon men speak in that effected namby-pamby child-molester voice?
LLR Chuck: "I could not care less about Michael Avenatti, whose attempt to hurt Justice Kavanaugh went nowhere."
LOL
Avenatti is just YOU with better PR!
You are just like him. After all, you yourself stated bluntly that you were only here to smear Trump and drive down his poll numbers.
You have worked so long and so hard to make yourself an invaluable ally to the left that it would be ungracious of me not to play along.
Carry on Durbin Cuckholster, carry on!
My dog like Shakespeare... Alas poor Fido, I knew him, Horatio
PPPT: "If Drago had a brain, he might understand that you don't have to look down on someone/something as "lesser," dehumanize or kill to simply recognize that they're not capable of something."
LOL
So, your just as happy to dehumanize and kill those who are fully capable as well?
Well played lefty, well played!
Too funny.
I'm tempted to send LLR Chuck your way to help you out.
Oh, Chuck, fopdoodle extraordinaire, you should read the Stormy Daniels decision.
You could use the refresher on "rhetorical hyperbole" that the judge offers.
But I bet your Trump hatred stops any actual thinking about that technique.
She's a fraud maybe not as extreme as that fellow who pretended to be a holocaust survivor in Spain but close,
Right. They were "killed" before they even had a nervous system. Can you "execute" something that doesn't have a brain yet?
We went through the same argument in the 1980s when some folks said you couldn't pull the plug on a brain-dead human vegetable. But fetuses are "cute," you see! Let's endow blastocysts with personhood! No projection there.
Weird people, these Republicans.
So, your just as happy to dehumanize and kill those who are fully capable as well?
How clever Drago must think he is to twist my words. Wow. I guess he doesn't have any friends/acquaintances in life that he can trust to deal honestly with him, given how much he has to manipulate the views of others here in cyberspace - the only place where people pay him any mind.
Vance, I know full well what your argument is. It’s bullshit.
When did she claim affirmative action benefits due to her heritage? Hint, she did not.
I don't know Howard. Why do Democrat "men" (if there exists such a thing anymore in this brave new world of soy boys and pajama wearers and trannies) speak like Hitler and Stalin and other racists? And why do they actually molest children and rape women? Like your hero Senator Menendez and Bill Clinton and Anthony Weiner and Al Franken and most of NBC and various movie industry titans like Roman Polanski, who I'm sure you cheered until you were hoarse when leftist Hollywood gave him an Oscar... in absentia, because he's been hiding in Europe because he raped several female children. Much to the cheers of yourself, no doubt.
PPPT: "But fetuses are "cute," you see! Let's endow blastocysts with personhood! No projection there."
Note to self: somehow Planned Parenthood is coming up with fully formed arms and legs and heads and organs from blastocysts to sell.
Liz Warren has less Native American ancestry than she has Neandethal ancestry.
Inga, did Warren lie when she checked her "I'm a Native American" box? Could she check it today? You seem to think she could check it, because you are cheering her reveal of 1/1024 Native American ancestry. She's been proven right, she is an Indian!
Correct?
“How clever Drago must think he is to twist my words. Wow. I guess he doesn't have any friends/acquaintances in life that he can trust to deal honestly with him, given how much he has to manipulate the views of others here in cyberspace - the only place where people pay him any mind.”
This is something Drago does multiple times a day. He cannot argue honestly because his arguments are based on bullshit. So much bullshit on these threads today. This tells me they are scrambling.
Blue Wave a comin’.
Do you identify with the mentally ill, too, Drago? Or just the mentally retarded?
Because, there's this Republican president, you see...
It's interesting watching the irrational Republicans come on here to work out their misunderstandings of the universe and life in general. It's almost like a basic socialization version of the Special Olympics.
Vance: "Correct?"
That is exactly what the lefties are arguing. And its so important to them that they are rapidly throwing the Native American Tribal councils under the bus!!
Hey man, that's just what the lefties do. If those stupid Native Americans won't play along with pasty whitebread Lieawatha's BS then those indigenous folks will just have to get the hell out of the way.
“And why do they actually molest children and rape women?”
Like fundamentalist Mormons.
President Pee-Pee" "Do you identify with the mentally ill, too, Drago? Or just the mentally retarded?"
I think it is worthwhile to identify with anyone who is considered "the least of these".
As opposed to what your team finds it worthwhile to do: execute them.
Note to self: somehow Planned Parenthood is coming up with fully formed arms and legs and heads and organs from blastocysts to sell.
Note to self: Drago believes that souls and persons reside in arms and legs. This will make it hard to ever again amputate a gangrenous limb from an infected patient, given that these features have now attained the personhood status. Oh well, that's irrational conservative "thought" for you.
Vance's non-denial is telling. Is it the way the sexy magik underwear make you feel sensual, so you speek in that creepy pervy voice?
Here's what the Cherokee Secretary of State had to say:" “A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship,” Hoskin Jr. said in response. “Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation.”
Hoskin Jr. went on to say that the use of a DNA test was “inappropriate and wrong.”
“Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong," he said. “It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
Inga: "This tells me they are scrambling."
I plan on scrambling like its November of 2016.
The Book or Moron(i)
“Vance's non-denial is telling. Is it the way the sexy magik underwear make you feel sensual, so you speek in that creepy pervy voice?”
Right Howard? Vance makes my skin crawl.
I think it is worthwhile to identify with anyone who is considered "the least of these".
Except when it comes to class. You certainly don't identify with anyone without much means - or at least the means that Fred Trump bequeathed to them.
As opposed to what your team finds it worthwhile to do: execute them.
Massive projection coming from someone who thinks the "freedom" of the market should be allowed to starve people and kill them through inadequate medical care. And ironic given the heightened death rates of white males and how you'll continue to push for policies that will get them lethally overdosing on prescription opioids.
And that whole finality of the death penalty thing. Oh sorry, we executed someone innocent. At least retribution was demonstrated.
There's no way we'll ever be anything close to the kind of pro-death party that you are.
“Warren’s DNA test results proved she has indigenous American DNA.”
Possibly small portions of indigenous SOUTH American DNA.
“1/1,024 Indian”
Figure that you have 46 chromosomes. Round up to 50. Divide into 1,024 (rounded down to 1,000). The result is 1/20, or roughly 5% of one chromosome. Not that convincing, esp with her likelihood apparently running about half that of the average American of European stock. They at least apparently have roughly 10% of one chromosome of Indian blood.
PPPT: "Note to self: Drago believes that souls and persons reside in arms and legs."
Note to self: It's okay to pick up the body parts of those massacred for fun and profit because, after all, the soul is, like, long gone and everything.
PPPT: "Massive projection coming from someone who thinks the "freedom" of the market should be allowed to starve people and kill them through inadequate medical care."
Why are you dragging leftist marxist/communist nations policies into this?
First of all no more than 1/64 American Indian. And since Native American DNA is not widely available some of the comparison DNA markers were for Mexicans and Peruvians---so maybe she's 1/64th Mexican---still a "woman of color" as it were. So there is that.
But I have to categorize Elizabeth Warren as Princess Spreading Bull.
So Inga doesn't realize that stating that Warren "didn't lie" is exactly the same as claiming that it is okay to claim racial benefits with 1/1024th ancestry.
She's pretending that the conservative criticism was always merely that she "said" she had the ancestry, and had nothing to do with her using it for AA benefits.
Sorry, Inga. If you don't think that 1/1024th ancestry is enough to claim racial benefits, then Warren *did* lie in precisely the way conservatives and Trump said she did.
And btw, if Latinos average 18% native american ancestry as the NY Times said, then even one latino 7 generations ago in her ancestry would be enough to give her her 0.09%.
And you're claiming she is vindicated based on that.
It's a good thing you don't have any credibility left to lose.
Most European Americans have NO Native American DNA.
Qwinn: "So Inga doesn't realize that stating that Warren "didn't lie" is exactly the same as claiming that it is okay to claim racial benefits with 1/1024th ancestry."
Shhhhh!
I was hoping no one would be that explicit about it so Inga would continue for awhile!
Ok, so Howard is a religious bigot. Not a surprise, really.
I'll concede that Democrat Senator Harry Reid, former Democrat Senate Majority leader, sounds like a child molester. I'm sure you'll agree, right Howard? He claims to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ, but so did Judas.
As for Inga's "Fundamentalist Mormons" that she is bashing... they are just Muslims who don't murder people. We kicked them out over 100 years ago. Why do you accept Muslims and want tens of millions to immigrate here, especially the more violent ones?
The Americas were populated around 10,000 years ago by small bands of perhaps no more than 20 people. The fact that the Republicans here are too retarded to realize how much more closely related that makes Peruvian and Cherokee DNA than it makes Scandinavians to Sardinians shows just how irrelevant their silly yips are.
Blogger Inga...Allie Oop said...
Vance makes my skin crawl.
He's harmless as long as he keeps with his own kind. If he ventures into the real world, he's just another roadkill
Birkel said...
Oh, Chuck, fopdoodle extraordinaire, you should read the Stormy Daniels decision.
You could use the refresher on "rhetorical hyperbole" that the judge offers.
But I bet your Trump hatred stops any actual thinking about that technique.
Why? Why should I care about that lawsuit?
Harry Reid, Oren Hatch and Mittens all sound like creepo the clown
LLR Chuck: "Why? Why should I care about that lawsuit?"
It's telling that Inga and LLR Chuck adopt precisely the same tactics and talking points at precisely the same time for precisely the same reasons.
Because LLR Chuck is a "True Conservative".....
Clearly.
LOL
“The fact that the Republicans here are too retarded to realize how much more closely related that makes Peruvian and Cherokee DNA than it makes Scandinavians to Sardinians shows just how irrelevant their silly yips are.”
Presicely! I just have to shake my head at the ignorance. They could do a little research for pity sake.
A retarded person could literally not come up with a comment as dumb as the one posted at 8:43.
Me: But I bet your Trump hatred stops any actual thinking about that technique.
Chuck, fopdoodle extraordinaire: Why? Why should I care about that lawsuit?
The arguments are easier when one side gives up immediately.
Thanks, fopdoodle.
“It's telling that Inga and LLR Chuck adopt precisely the same tactics and talking points at precisely the same time for precisely the same reasons.”
Sheesh, maybe it’s because Chuck is normal adult.
anti-cult is not bigotry
Next Inga, they will claim Chuck is actually you playing a character.
The only people who think Lizzy is special because she used her supposed minute drop of GGGGGGGGGgggreat grandparent Native American dna to enrich her status as a diversity hire, are people who like rich socialists, and like her anyway. She is less corrupt than Hillary. She's got that going for her.
Tho, do look into her plush digs.
“Next Inga, they will claim Chuck is actually you playing a character.”
Well, I guess you all are my little sock puppets. ❤️
Very telling that I creep out Howard and Inga, but they are perfectly fine with Bill Clinton and Roman Polanski.
I'm actually pretty pleased about it, to be honest. They should be comfortable with their rapist friends and politicians. I for one are creeped out by them, but clearly our leftists here are not. They prefer the company of actual rapists while accusing Mormons (in a very bigoted, hater way, or course) of merely sounding like them. Of course, it's not just rapists that Inga and Howard love, it's murderers too--it took Inga 11 months to decide that James Hodkinson was a bad guy! Howard, I'm sure, is just as happy to support Antifa and other violent leftists as Inga is.
I'm glad I creep out Inga...considering who she supports, it's a badge of honor. It's like creeping out Beria or something.
I repeat: The DNA test proves nothing more than that Warren may have had a single Latino ancestor with average DNA seven generations ago.
Lefties claim this vindicates her.
Seriousy.
Vance: Just because you are on your period doesn't mean you should stop acting like a lady.
This just in:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-approval-improves-dems-lead-house/story?id=58469893
But inside the 66 districts that are tossups, or only leaning toward one party or the other — the majority makers, or breakers — that lead evaporates into a 46-47 Democrats v. Republicans race.
So in the battleground districts, Republicans have a one point advantage.
Oh, and as for the tired old "Mormons are a cult!" This is rich, coming from leftists who are supporting Krysten Sinema for Senate in Arizona, who is very, very friendly with witches and brought them all together to cast a spell on US troops in Iraq to curse them.
I'm not making this up, either. She really did try to put a spell on US troops. And leftist Washington Post journalists are also witches, claiming to have killed three people via hexes.
And yet you call Mormons a cult, when you and yours gladly and happily are supporting witches and wiccans and this stuff?
Damn ABC all to hell for providing a breakdown of competitive districts.
And if they're reporting that now, they're preparing the polls that more honestly reflect the electorate.
Howard: "Next Inga, they will claim Chuck is actually you playing a character."
I hadnt considered full blown schizophrenia.
Though if I were you I'd stay mum about that since might be a "condition" for which PPPT has a certain "cure"....
Someone give Vance his Thorazine.
Again, Quinn doesn’t realize that Latino’s have Native American DNA because the Spaniards had many children with native Americans from The American Southwest to Mexico to South America. There is no distinction of tribes in the DNA tests that I know of.
Birkel: "Damn ABC all to hell for providing a breakdown of competitive districts."
Careful. Inga is counting on the massively iversampled deep blue CA and NY districts for her peace of mind..
Howard, I suppose I'll defer to you in the field of "being on a period." Unlike leftists who claim that men are women, I know that's not true. But in your case, who knows? You certainly sound like a woman on a period in that you haven't addressed a single fact and relied solely on character assassination, bigotry, and hatred. Common ordinary leftist woman, in other words.
Drtago: You will understand Chuck better if you picture him wearing a sexy nurses uniform when you read his posts.
'scuse me while I change my tampon and take a couple Midol
Howard, if you’re me, you’re post menopausal.
I repeat - if a single one of Warren's 128 great great great great great grandparents was a Latino with average Latino DNA, she would actually have more native american ancestry than that test indicated.
And based on that, there was nothing wrong with her checking the native american box on her admission forms to Harvard. And Republicans and Trump should be ashamed of themselves. And Warren is completely vindicated.
Seriously.
Wait, so the Cherokee Nation has a standing policy against providing DNA to genetic testing firms and now Peru is a stand-in for Cherokee?
Since they all came from Asia, that could make sense.
So Warren might be part Asian and should have been discriminated AGAINST by Harvard, according to Leftist Collectivists.
By the way, aren't leftists all about minority rights and so forth? So why are they such blind raving bigots towards certain minorities, like Mormons, conservative Jews/blacks/women and now Catholics too (at least Catholics who aren't pro-homosexual popist doctrine)?
Isn't protecting minorities supposed to be their reason for existence? Yet Howard is clearly ready to send all Mormons to Auschwitz, and Inga's ready for her work shift at the Zylon B levers, and they would say they are helping the world out in the process. That's how bigoted and full of hate they are clearly demonstrating. And they aren't unusual at all--pretty much every leftist I know would love, love love to conduct a genocide of all sorts of "undesirables." They aren't even hiding it anymore, either.
And note - the other 127 great great great great great grandparents would have had to have not one single drop of Latino blood in their own ancestry for her to have so little.
And she is vindicated.
Seriously.
One wonders if Inga tbinks every Latino in the country should be able to check the native american box. They average 18%, after all. And if not, why not.
I check the mutt box.
Vance, sorry I’m not going to defend the fundamentalist Mormon practice of multiple forced child brides. Considering this wrong doesn’t make me a bigot, it makes me a normal human being. If you want to keep defending it, go right ahead. I knew you were a creep.
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