after almost a decade of fighting - thru prison, the courts, a hunger strike, and thru the insurance company - I finally got surgery this week ✨🎀💉🏥✨🌈💕 pic.twitter.com/I7WeIrR8jP
— Chelsea E. Manning (@xychelsea) October 20, 2018
October 22, 2018
"✨🎀💉🏥✨🌈💕."
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Triumph of mental illness.
Somehow I feel like somethings missing here.
Pay for your own self-mutilation.
"After Years of fighting I finally got others to pay for it. I coulda had had the surgery much, much sooner, if I had been willing to pay. So much nicer though to stick it to others, especially the taxpayers."
No going back now.
Now you have a new body to feel dysmorphic about.
Nobody cares.
So now he gets to go through life experiencing what it's like to be an unattractive woman.
Refresh my memory here, why is this individual not in prison for desertion and stealing and leaking classified information?
What kind of surgery?
Great. You'll always be Bradley to me. Mind if I call you Bradley?
Gay Patriot was kicked off twitter for calling Bradley Bradley.
But it's OK to threaten to kill any conservative on twitter.
That's one generous insurance company! I can't get mine to pay for jack.
What kind of surgery?
Dickectomy?
You're just a didckless dude, freakshow.
“Refresh my memory here, why is this individual not in prison for desertion and stealing and leaking classified information?”
Obama
Jeff Brokaw said...
Refresh my memory here, why is this individual not in prison for desertion and stealing and leaking classified information?
Not in prison for desertion because he did not desert. That was someone else.
The unraveling of our culture continues.
In some of these surgeries the penis is turned inside-out to form a pseudo vagina. Teeth optional.
In my opinion the medical profession has a lot to answer for. If I go to a surgeon and ask him to cut off my perfectly good left leg because I woke up this morning feeling like I am really and truly a one-legged man I would be tagged as mentally troubled and urged to seek psychological treatment.
But if I demand to have my dick and balls removed – well, that’s OK – as long as payment can be obtained, of course. It’s a shame that the medical profession has decided to cater to and encourage such travesties. Gender politics has bad outcomes.
And now you're an ugly woman.
Thanks for the notice.
Blogger Eleanor said...”So now he gets to go through life experiencing what it's like to be an unattractive woman.”
Heh.
Life has its difficulties for everyone, but I imagine the general hierarchy, from easiest to hardest, is:
Attractive female
Attractive male
Unattractive male
Unattractive female
(more important than any of that:
Smart
Dumb)
He/she/xer/xhir is a sad, mentally-ill person who needs psychiatric help. Instead, our tax dollars go towards a mutilative surgery.
grackle said...
It’s a shame that the medical profession has decided to cater to and encourage such travesties.
I think you are missing an ns in there somewhere.
She looks like Taylor Swift without her makeup...
Meanwhile, I have a relative who has been desperately trying to get a medical procedure approved by insurance to be done on his hands so that he can continue working in his skilled trade, and be able to support his family.
Dupuytren’s contracture is a medical condition affecting the hands and fingers. It is also known as Morbus Dupuytren and in slang terms "Viking disease" or "Celtic hand.” Dupuytren’s contracture is characterized by thickening of tissues in the palm. If the condition progresses, it affects one or more fingers in the palm and bends them towards the palm, and the fingers cannot be straightened fully. The condition mostly affects the ring finger followed by the little finger and then the middle finger. It progresses very slowly and takes months to years to develop a severe contracture. Usually both the hands are affected simultaneously.
Now he is down to only two usable fingers on each hand. Thumb and index finger: which is also slowly becoming curled.
I guess a surgical procedure for a Deplorable working man is out of the question. But....if he wanted to have his dick amputated so he could be a woman, perhaps they would authorize fixing his hands at the same time?
To Manning. I hope you die.
Xe does seem kinda girly, all the Twitter stickers and stuff.
Bradley Manning - the poster victim for the cruel heartless money-wasting left.
It’s a shame that the medical profession has decided to cater to and encourage such travesties.
I think you are missing an ns in there somewhere.
"Travesti (literally "disguised" in French) is a theatrical term referring to the portrayal of a character in an opera, play, or ballet by a performer of the opposite sex."
President Obama pardoned Manning in order to send a signal to all potential leakers in the Trump Administration that if they get caught an convicted, then they eventually will be pardoned by the next Democrat president.
Obama and his supporters in the Deep State intended to undermine President Trump by leaking against him constantly.
Just as leaker Manning was pardoned, anti-Trump leakers eventually would be pardoned.
Bradley as a fake woman looks like he was eaten by a wolf then sh*t down a cliff.
Seems insane, but Bradley gets to hit from the ladies' tees this weekend.
She had a penis. She named it Brad.
I have it on good authority that Lorena Babbitt would have performed this surgery for free.
Beware soyboys, there's a new lioness in town.
Ouch. Looks like she’s just been mauled by lionesses.
remember the olden days? back when cutting was considered a mental illness?
But Now! in our more enlightened age, we PRAISE AND SUPPORT cutters, and make insurance companies pay for the self harm. . . As long as; it's The RIGHT SORT of self harm
Mentally ill traitor cuts off penis. Everybody fucking clap.
You are a bigot if you don't clap. Also if you don't pay for this retard's insanity.
The penis was the easy part. Now, for the Y chromosome in every cell of your body, we propose....
Mike,
I propose the following modified version of your original list:
Life has its difficulties for everyone, but I imagine the general hierarchy, from easiest to hardest, is:
Smart Attractive female
Smart Attractive male
Dumb Attractive female
Smart Unattractive female
Smart Unattractive male
Dumb Unattractive male
Dumb Unattractive female
"Travesti (literally "disguised" in French) is a theatrical term referring to the portrayal of a character in an opera, play, or ballet by a performer of the opposite sex."
Just to clear up what “travesty” means – here’s Dictionary.com offers:
a grotesque or debased likeness or imitation:
a travesty of justice.
a literary or artistic burlesque of a serious work or subject, characterized by grotesque or ludicrous incongruity of style, treatment, or subject matter.
a literary or artistic composition so inferior in quality as to be merely a grotesque imitation of its model.
The meaning I used was “a grotesque or debased likeness or imitation.”
"It" is a traitor regardless of what "it" does to "its" physical body.
This kind of stuff is really only news to the virtue signalling Social Justice Warrior Cult.
I don't give a damn what "it" does.
Now all it needs is a spelling lesson.
"And now you're an ugly woman."
Wrong. HE's still a dude, just without the equipment. They can't do chromosome replacement yet.
Surgery on the wrong head.
How long before xe gets a Vogue cover?......... First do no harm. This operation solves dysmorphia in the way that frontal lobotomies solved mental illness.
And if he decides to transition back, will he also find a way to make someone else pay for surgery that (to the extent possible) attempts to put him back together again?
This is like trying to cure breast cancer by amputating legs: if the problem is in your breast(s), why would cutting off a healthy leg be considered treatment?
Why would a physician ever cut off apparently healthy body parts in an effort to cure a problem that obviously resides elsewhere?
...Gonna have to do a bit better with that 5 o'clock upper-lip shadow.
Also, who in the hell paid for this? Isn't he dead broke? Isn't he a convicted felon?
That xi is unattractive, there's no denying. But xi will find someone who appreciates xi for xi's mind. Oh, wait.....
This guy’s entire life seems to be ruled by whim, an inability to weigh consequences. Perfect candidate for sexual mutilation surgery. This will not end well for young Brad. But you will never see an ounce of responsibility taken by the progs that cheered him on.
I dunno, I think that title would make for a really awkward Althouse tag. I'd have a lot of anticipation wondering what the next post that used the tag could possibly be.
Surely, now, every day will be another welcome blessing with spectacular contentment and fulfillment if not pure outright joy.
She's still a traitor and she probably won't be any happier.
Also...
STOP SAYING "SHE"
HE IS NOT A WOMAN. HE IS A MAN PRETENDING TO BE A WOMAN. Taking drastic steps to do so...but a MAN nonetheless.
Do not submit to their desire to redefine words and definition. If you do, they've already won.
I bet he's a really demanding bitch to the nursing staff.
Christ on a pogo stick, the world is going mad, and joyously so, dancing in the streets with such insanity. I'm really at a loss, how does such a society survive, when biology is questioned, but climate science is sacrosanct?
I loaded a bunch of 308 yesterday, and this seems like the perfect time to see if my crimping is heavy enough for an FAL, and whether the load is good out to beyond a football field. A mental health morning, which will yield enough brass to have a mental health evening while I reload and adjust. I might add some decent scotch whisky to the evening (resizing and priming only while imbibing FYI, no powder).
I just threw up in my mouth
Eleanor said...
So now he gets to go through life experiencing what it's like to be an unattractive woman.
This was one of the most subtle and fascinating studies on Transparent. I'm so sad Jeffrey Tambour has been hounded off the show.
I continue to believe that in a Just world this man (yes, I wrote “man”) would have long ago been on a surgical gurney — to receive his lethal injection.
Don't be the first person to stop applauding.
People with REAL medical conditions, some even life threatening are unable to get the procedures, medicines and help they need.....despite paying through the nose for insurance. They suffer, are financially ruined and some will die.
Yet....Bradly Manning gets an extremely expensive non medical procedure plus all the years of follow up therapies, drugs, hormones.
Forgive me* if I just don't give a shit about Manning or about transgenderism or about their particular form of mental illness.
* That was just a formality. I really don't need or want forgiveness.
Why the need for surgery??
If genitalia do not determine either sex or gender, such that a man can be a woman and a woman can have a penis, there should be no reason to chop it off and construct some kind of artificial genitalia.
Unless genitalia does matter.
Gerald Broflovski
ST:TOS seems especially appropriate in this case:
Spock has an observation
Where's the rest of me?
"Also, who in the hell paid for this?" You did.
"Isn't he dead broke?" He's on welfare. You're paying for everything he has.
"Isn't he a convicted felon?" It was only treason, which isn't even a crime, except when a Republican can be accused of it.
Just a reminder, but Chelsea Manning wasn't pardoned by Obama. His sentence was commuted. So he still has this criminal record, and he'll never be able to get a security clearance because of it.
But he has no balls, so he has that go for him, which is nice (I guess. . .).
My darker side says that he attempts suicide within 5 years.
William said:
How long before xe gets a Vogue cover?
Well, it wasn't a cover, but there already has been a fawning "interview" illustrated by an Annie Leibovitz photo of Miss Manning in a swimsuit.
https://www.vogue.com/article/chelsea-manning-vogue-interview-september-issue-2017
Original Mike said...
An ugly man is an ugly man,
but a rich ugly man is a rich man.
on Manning? I'm glad the bitch got her dick cut off as long as it did not cost me too much.
He is now a sad, mutilated man. Sad.
DBQ: my contracture operation and PT were routinely covered by BCBS. It is clearly a non-optional procedure (at least if you want to use your hands).
What DBQ said.
Another free ad for Republicans.
C'mon, it probably only cost each of us a penny or two.
Basically Twitter has kicked off so many conservatives that the threads following Trump's tweets are reduced to a liberal hate fest.
Another thing...
The emoticons...where they literally express feelings and thoughts through emoticons...
NPC dead give away.
Have you ever noticed this on lefty twitter threads? Classic 1984.
"Beautiful thing. The destruction of words."
Y'know that Hitchcock Presents episode where the gal has her boyfriend kill the man she says raped her, and afterwards starts pointing to random men and ID'ing them as her rapist?
I could see something like that happening with Manning. "Doc, I thought I didn't feel right in my body because I identified as a woman, but now I think it was something else. My feet aren't right. For the sake of my mental health, you've got to cut off my feet!"
Back in the day, I read the transcript of Bradley Manning's IM thread with the well-named Adrian Lamo. A very troubled guy, Bradley. Felt bad for him. He should never have had the job he had.
"Refresh my memory here, why is this individual not in prison for desertion and stealing and leaking classified information?"
Manning didn't desert his post, but did spend several years in prison for leaking classified information.
Men think that to be a woman, they need to have their genitals removed. They can fake the breasts. A guy can hide his genitals under clothing, indeed, it is taboo for a man to expose his genitals even by wearing tight clothing. But the guy himself is frequently reminded that he has a cock and balls.
Women who believe they are really men want to cut off their breasts. They believe that their breasts are what makes them a woman. The lack of a cock and balls they can disguise.
A person who believes that removing his genitals will make him a woman sexually identifies as a man. A person who believes that removing her breasts will make her a man sexually identifies as a woman.
It’s a shame that the medical profession has decided to cater to and encourage such travesties. Gender politics has bad outcomes.
Think of it as a partial abortion. Same group.
Dupuytrens contracture is a well recognized medical condition. I don't know why insurance would deny coverage.
When I was a medical student, I assisted the Mass General hand surgeon operate on the first violin of the Boston Symphony for it.
Tense moments.
"When I was a medical student, I assisted the Mass General hand surgeon operate on the first violin of the Boston Symphony for it."
Medicine can do great things, and greatly stupid things. Whatever happened to 'primum non nocere?' Cutting off a man's penis, if it is not diseased, seems to fall under 'harm.'
No one looks their best when they're coming out of surgery.
It takes some boldness to put out a selfie in that situation. Especially if your aim is to be seen as an attractive woman.
You know, it's okay to be an unattractive woman. There must be a billion unattractive women on Earth. Don't be a jerk!
"Men think that to be a woman, they need to have their genitals removed. They can fake the breasts. A guy can hide his genitals under clothing, indeed, it is taboo for a man to expose his genitals even by wearing tight clothing. But the guy himself is frequently reminded that he has a cock and balls.
Women who believe they are really men want to cut off their breasts. They believe that their breasts are what makes them a woman. The lack of a cock and balls they can disguise.
A person who believes that removing his genitals will make him a woman sexually identifies as a man. A person who believes that removing her breasts will make her a man sexually identifies as a woman."
This reads like the proverbial infinite monkeys typing randomly until they reproduce the works of Shakespeare...like one of their discarded failures.
Or perhaps it is intended to be an avant-garde sound-poem, a word-salad, an emulation of Burroughs' cut-ups. Whatever it is intended to be...keep trying.
"That's a man, baby!"
Ann Althouse wrote, "You know, it's okay to be an unattractive woman. There must be a billion unattractive women on Earth. Don't be a jerk!"
I second that!
Talking about her appearance is just showing the petty side of your character.
I wrote, "Talking about her appearance is just showing the petty side of your character."
That should have been...
Talking about its' appearance is just showing the petty side of your character.
Couldn't he have saved up the money for the procedure or crowdfunded?
No one looks their best when they're coming out of surgery.
It takes some boldness to put out a selfie in that situation. Especially if your aim is to be seen as an attractive woman.
As William points out, this is probably contractually-obligated to make the impending Vogue cover more impactful.
The underlying message will be if clothes, makeup, and lighting can make Manning look this good, how much better would it work on you?
(Cash register sounds)
Via Insty:
The new taboo: More people regret sex change and want to ‘detransition’, surgeon says
"Basically Twitter has kicked off so many conservatives that the threads following Trump's tweets are reduced to a liberal hate fest."
Worth a nice hearty bold
Behold the clarity of the sentence Robert Cook cannot comprehend!
Men think that to be a woman, they need to have their genitals removed.
DOCTOR
Mrs. Garrison, you can't have an abortion.
MRS. GARRISON
Don't you tell me what I can and can't do with my body! A woman has a right to choose!
DOCTOR
No, I mean you're physically unable to have an abortion, because you can't get pregnant.
MRS. GARRISON
But I missed my period.
DOCTOR
You can't have periods either. You had a sex change, Mr. Garrison, but you don't have ovaries or a womb. You don't produce eggs.
MRS. GARRISON
You mean, I'll never know what it feels like to have a baby growing inside me and then scramble its brains and vacuum it out?
DOCTOR
N-that's right.
MRS. GARRISON
But I paid five thousand dollars to be a woman. This would mean I I'm not really a woman. I, I'm just a... a I'm just a guy with a mutilated penis!
DOCTOR
Basically, yes.
MRS. GARRISON
Oh boy, do I feel like a jackass.
-- South Park 2005
Because Manning was dishonorably discharged, she lost her military health benefits. Why do people assume her surgery was government funded or that we paid for it?
It's hard to tell if the folks in these comments are more upset about the surgery or that Manning's sentence was commuted and she is now living however she wants to live.
For the folks genuinely troubled by the surgery, does breast augmentation/reduction surgery bother you as much?
It is really hard for me to wrap my head around wanting the kind of surgery we are all assuming Manning had, but it's equally hard to understand the hate or contempt that people feel for the surgery, the medical experts who recommend and perform it, and, in some cases, the people who get it.
It had its dick cut off and can't reproduce. I'd pay a couple of bucks for that--but not for antidepressants or antibiotics or hormones.
This is a bit old, but worth mentioning. Reversals would never happen if this wasn't mental illness being indulged to the point of mutilation and madness. And of course heaven help anyone who opts for a reversal, since they'll be savaged by all the same people who celebrated their earlier surgery.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/the-new-taboo-more-people-regret-sex-change-and-want-to-detransition-surgeon-says
it's equally hard to understand the hate or contempt that people feel for the surgery, the medical experts who recommend and perform it, and, in some cases, the people who get it.
People don't hate the mentally ill, we just don't want to pay for their delusions.
Blogger Seeing Red said...
Via Insty:
The new taboo: More people regret sex change and want to ‘detransition’, surgeon says
This, plus the suicides, is why Johns Hopkins shut down the clinic.
It is really hard for me to wrap my head around wanting the kind of surgery we are all assuming Manning had, but it's equally hard to understand the hate or contempt that people feel for the surgery, the medical experts who recommend and perform it, and, in some cases, the people who get it.
Same, here.
People don't hate the mentally ill, we just don't want to pay for their delusions.
Paying for it doesn't bother me as much as being forced to humor them.
It is the Chelsea un-manning.
C'mon, somebody had to say it!
It takes some boldness to put out a selfie in that situation.
That's a simple assertion, nothing more. An alternative explanation would be extreme narcissism - no boldness necessary.
Here's the thing, there is nothing wrong with being bad looking. I'm one homely dude. A sense of humor, self-deprecation, and not having a chip on one's shoulder goes a long way. Certainly did with me and my spouse. One can be ugly on the outside, or one can be ugly on the inside. Nature gave me the former, grace gave me the ability to be the latter.
Oh, by the bye, the 308 load is good out to 250 meters with an Austrian STG-58. Better shooting than I've done in a while. All within the 8 ring, and no optics, iron sights, and I couldn't discern some close hits through my spotting scope. It's good when one .75" sticker will cover several bullet holes.
Yhe over/under on suicide watch is...?
So what do they do with Little Willie and his pals after they cut them off. Do you get to keep them as a souvenir? Do you get to take them home and build a shrine? Do you get to carry them around and display them as part of your speaking tour? Can you put them up for sale? Can Ritmo make a bid on Ebay? Will the Smithsonian want Manning's wiener for it's historical value? Lots of unanswered questions that must be settled.
Also, Manning has at least three documented suicide attempts.
Much more to happen before this sexual assignment at a whim plays out. So far it has just been "Male" and "Female." We have yet to see much demand for "All of the Above" and "None of the Above."
t's equally hard to understand the hate or contempt that people feel for the surgery, the medical experts who recommend and perform it, and, in some cases, the people who get it.
Michael K said: People don't hate the mentally ill, we just don't want to pay for their delusions.
And I say: OR be forced to accept their delusions as being reality.
You are born XY genetically. You are still XY no matter how many body parts you amputate, alter or add.
Genetically, Manning is a male. Period. End of story. Pretend all you want. You are not now nor ever will be XX...female. You aren't going to make me pretend that you are either.
If a soldier's genitals are blown off by an exploding landmine, he's still a man.
Michael K said: People don't hate the mentally ill, we just don't want to pay for their delusions.
What's Manning's delusion and how are you being forced to pay for it?
Dust Bunny Queen said: OR be forced to accept their delusions as being reality.
In what way did Manning force or attempt to force you to accept any delusions as being reality? It seems clear that you haven't accepted anything offered by Manning. Is it even possible to force someone to accept a delusion if you don't want to? If you claim some idea is a delusion, you haven't accepted the idea as reality.
Adam -
The Progressive element in American society is pushing a sort of homosexual/transgendered Gleichshaltung on the rest of us. There is a demand, or a requirement if you will, that the rest of us must recognized transgenderism as being normal and even, after a fashion, privileged. In some places (e.g., certain college campuses) this demand is explicit; mostly it is implicit, but powerfully stated and promulgated nonetheless. You know damn well that this is the case, and that this is what Michael K and Dust Bunny Queen were referring to.
There is a demand, or a requirement if you will, that the rest of us must recognized transgenderism as being normal and even, after a fashion, privileged.
Also, you may have noticed that surgically altered men are permitted to compete in womens sports. It is forbidden to object.
Roughcoat -
If that's what they were referring to, why didn't they say that? Althouse, of all places, seems like the place where you really have to say what you mean. Their complaints seemed much more specific than what you're referring to.
I'm almost certainly part of the progressive element that you're referring to, though I don't know for sure as I have definitely not been party to any efforts to push Gleichshaltung. I want people to treat transgendered people as normal people in the sense that you treat them the same way you would treat any other similarly situated person. Most of the time, that shouldn't require any special treatment. We all deviate from the norm in some respect. Sometimes that deviation from the norm will prompt us to change a person's name, build a wheel-chair ramp, locate an interpreter, speak a little louder, not use the awful smelling perfume, or eat pretzels instead of peanuts on the plane. I'll concede that sometimes the deviation will cause us to change too much or the deviation is so rare that it's not efficient for everyone to accommodate; the inconvenience will be too great relative to the harm. The changes required of me when someone is transgendered are, I think, small and manageable (e.g. change the pronoun when speaking about him or her).
It looks like you disagree with the need to make any accommodations for transgendered people. What does that mean in practice? Do you want to prevent people from having the surgery that we assume Manning had? Are you ok with the surgery paid through private funds, but just don't want to have to call Manning a woman? Is the surgery ok as long as it is deemed abnormal? Is it ok if we allow the surgery, agree that transgendered people are normal people, but do not extend extra privileges to them?
I'm not trolling; those are serious questions meant to see if there is some middle ground for us. I'll concede that there are lots of folks to the left of me that have made support or opposition to LGBTQ issues the single issue by which they judge the morality of another person, and that doing so is not fair.
Blogger Roughcoat said...
If a soldier's genitals are blown off by an exploding landmine, he's still a man.
You have to have the balls to enlist, which says a lot more about your lack of manhood than Chelsea Manning's.
which says a lot more about your lack of manhood than Chelsea Manning's.
More keyboard commando Howard. Having one testicle was disqualifying and it isn't any more.
Michael Bolton: Yeah, well at least your name isn't Michael Bolton.
Samir: You know, there's nothing wrong with that name.
Michael Bolton: There was nothing wrong with it. Until I was about 12 years old and that no-talent ass clown became famous and started winning grammys.
Samir: Well, if it bothers you that much, why don't you just go by Mike instead of Michael?
Michael Bolton: No way. Why should I change? He's the one who sucks.
Eleanor @ 7:51...yeowzah!
I do not understand why the Lefties here are defending Manning. He is a traitor with obvious mental health issues. For Christ's sake, his name is "Manning" and he just underwent an unmanning procedure. If he was a transsexual Nazi you would be mocking him.
Please,Lefties, if we are to remain a republic, we need to work together to govern -- not rule -- this nation called America. Get your fucking shit together.
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