From the anonymous op-ed, "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration/I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.":
Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back....Unsung heroes? This person is singing about his own heroism. We just don't know his/her name, because he/she has got to stay hidden to continue sabotaging the work of the President the deplorables elected.
The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House.... It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t....
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1 – 200 of 240 Newer› Newest»I wonder how this plays with the persuadable middle.
And when Trump declassifies US government malfeasance, I wonder how that plays.
More fiction, just like Woodward's book.
"The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House."
If they were unsung heroes they wouldn't be singing.
My lodestar since 2010 has been Professor Ann Althouse.
Anyone remember the Ulsterman, during the Obamanation?
The Steady State sounds a lot like the Deep State. Sort of the way Socialist and Progressive do.
I think this is a warning to voters for the future. Don't ever elect an "outsider" ever again. We, the deep state, will not allow it.
It goes over-tye-top comical when John McCain is brought in as the Presidential role model.
Not to mention the choice of the NYT as the vehicle.
Deep state stuff.
It’s “him,” Althouse. Although I can neither confirm nor deny the gender of the author of the op-ed.
Transfer all of the pre-2017 employees to the radium furnaces on the planet Mongo. That'll solve the problem.
Probably it's a ploy to bait Trump. It won't work. The resistance people are the erratic ones.
Check for style clues. Did Maureen Dowd write it.
Left-wing government employees think their iron rice bowls are kingly crowns.
I guess to get the Deep State under control we're going to have to elect a Real Fascist next time.
I am Laslo.
The op-ed writer is being called gutless and treasonous by POTUS, who is also demanding that the NY Times turn the person over to the government. This was predictable. So I think the person was brave, like the underground French resistance of WW2.
Per Wikipedia: Estimates of the casualties among the Resistance are made harder by the dispersion of movements at least until D-Day, but credible estimates start from 8,000 dead in action, 25,000 shot and several tens of thousands deported, of whom 27,000 died in death camps
Darrell, I think that is what the NYT is attempting to do. Prompt Trump to clear out his WH.
I think the game now is the media is just creating fake sources. See CNN and their fake source about what his former lawyer doesn't know. The NYT saw what CNN did, and decided to do the same.
Trump tweets "treason"? and tweets the NYT needs to turn over this treasonous person for the security of the country.
The more they try to convince me, the more I think they're trying to trick me. And I'm not the only one.
Imagine standing on principle and enacting the policies on which you campaigned.
Just you try it, Leftists and LLRs.
They keep saying Trump's the crazy one. I know who looks crazy to me and it's not him.
Ann, I get the sense that you are waking up to the obvious fact that you have made a fool of yourself over these past three years.
This is a classic case of Occam’s Razor at play here. The real Donald Trump is the dangerous, immoral, lying fool that he also plays in public.
What does it say about you Ann that you have been unable to write critically about him, but instead have been completely fawning?
Trump: " some day, when I’m not President, which hopefully will be in about six and a half years from now, the New York Times and CNN, and all of these phony media outlets, will be out of business, folks. They’ll be out of the business. Because there will be nothing to write, and there will be nothing of interest."
I'm not sure they will last until he is out of office. Maybe the NYT, but CNN? ESPN?
Laslo makes an excellent point. As usual.
rhhardin, maybe too early but, thread winner! Speaking of Mad Maureen, Aussie's created a great takedown: OK, it also confused me but I'm working up to senile: https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/well-known-movie-scenes-in-which-certain-lines-have-been-replaced-with-comments-about-columnist-maureen-dowd-posted-on-the-conservative-web-site-freerepubliccom
For a more understandable post: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/malcolm-hits-manhattan-manhattan-hits-australia/news-story/1c00ad27056e2f5f4f421e5bbb3a13db
Sorry, techno skill to post active links is missing from my portfolio!
"This is a classic case of Occam’s Razor at play here. The real Donald Trump is the dangerous, immoral, lying fool that he also plays in public."
Occam's Razor tells me that Trump is right about who is really pulling the strings in govt and media.
We stopped letting government employees set National policy in the 18th Century. By that I mean the people never wanted government employees to set Nation policy or execution. That's why we installed lamp posts surrounding our Nation's Capital. And Capitol.
The situation was a bit different in the first years of the republic when Thomas Jefferson was Washington's Secretary of State and also the leader of the opposition, since Washington was quite aware of the situation and kept close tabs on it, though Jefferson never openly admitted to it.
It is really something though, that the NYT would print this as an op-ed by an anonymous author. Shame on them.
But I do expect it to leak or it will be otherwise discovered who the mole is, and we will find out just how senior this person is.
Sedition. Straight up.
The Atlanta Fed only projects 4.4% GDP growth for Q3.
Once written cannot believe that Trump will twice in a row break 4%.
Imagine the instability that comes from growing at 4% compared to the 1.8% Obama managed.
Stable!
Here's an interesting, little known fact about the French Resistance. The leaders of the Communist resistance would sometimes turn in leaders of the Gaullist resistance to the Gestapo. There were goals and ideals higher than simple resistance to Hitler. What would it profit the French to be rid of Hitler and still be stuck with bourgeois capitalism. The Communists didn't join the resistance until after the Soviet invasion of Russia..........The White House looks more and more like some kind of reality TV show. I think Trump , on some level, enjoys it, but I'm uncomfortable with it.
Wow. I thought that suggestion that the Deep State was resisting Trump was right-wing paranoia? The Paper of Record says otherwise. I think it's kind of amazing that they are allowing this admission out.
Like minded colleagues and I?
Definition of conspiracy.
Leland said...
Darrell, I think that is what the NYT is attempting to do. Prompt Trump to clear out his WH.
I think the game now is the media is just creating fake sources."
I think so too. It isn't Mike Pence or anyone like that. No senior person is going to write this kind of thing for the NYT. This is meme co-ordinated with Woodward's book publication. If Irving Kristol was working for Trump he would do it but he is not.
Hot Air has a take on it. Treason?
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/09/05/gutless-trump-rips-nyt-author-anonymous-op-ed-sanders-calls-resign/
"some day, when I’m not President, which hopefully will be in about six and a half years from now, the New York Times and CNN, and all of these phony media outlets, will be out of business, folks. They’ll be out of the business. Because there will be nothing to write, and there will be nothing of interest."
I thought Francis Fukuyama had been discredited.
I hope this is fake.
One should also keep in mind the possibility that The Times have been hoaxed.
The article is very well written as an English assignment; it is not Omarosa.
a classic case of Occam’s Razor
Yeah. Either Donald Trump has America's best interests at heart,
-or NYT, ABC, NBC, CBS, Facebook, Google, Twitter, Hillary, Bob Mueller, James Comey, "anti"-fa, and everybody who's thrown an admin official out of a restaurant, assaulted a Trump supporter, or tried to murder a Republican member of Congress do.
The French Resistance were the same Communists that welcomed the Nazis in to France and turned their neighbors over to the Gestapo--most of whom were killed. They took orders directly from Stalin. When the Soviet Union was invaded by the Nazis, they started working against the Germans. Stalin had the Resistance conduct stupid operations against the Nazis that resulted in retaliation against French citizens, thousands being killed. These operations were designed to keep German troops in France, unavailable for Eastern-Front operations. The French TV series The Village covered this pretty accurately--surprisingly.
What will the persuadable middle think? Some will buy into it, but I think more will marvel at the idea of an employee subverting his boss's programs, and bragging about it, when resignation and a tell-all is an available, at least arguably honorable option.
> So I think the person was brave, like the underground French resistance of WW2.
You mean, like, lose it's government job and get paid millions to write a book? That sort of risk? Wow, a true hero has revealed itself.
If this is legit and the sedist is not stupid, the writing will be skewed and deliberately peppered with weird words and phrasing so as not to enable easy identification. Which explains "lodestar." Along those lines, no real conservative would declare himself part of the "Resistance" even to avoid identification; this is a Sally Yates-type holdover & probably a woman since the NY Times referred to her as a he. I doubt the NY Times is making the whole thing up, but also guessing that the description of the source is grossly misleading and that the NY Times will be attacked for journalistic sleaziness when the source is uncovered.
Again, I do not believe this negativity toward Trump results in a net vote gain for Democrats.
Ann somehow notices the news about the NYT column, but sees it as an opportunity to attack the messenger, who is undoubtedly a weasel and horrible person, seeing how he's still working for Trump and so on. But mainly, Ann and many of her readers are deaf and blind to the chaos in the White House, which Ann treats as a joke and many of her readers regard as just par for the course. Ann, now you and the willingly ignorant tribe you have abetted stand alone, embracing with love this greasy cruddy man, without a shred of decency and a wide streak of cruelty, who you think tells lies for fun, which you think is perfectly OK for the president, as long as you can have a good laugh at the liberals. Many of Ann's commenters advertise a depth of ignorance that Ann, if she had a shred of a sense of bettering the polity, could help dig them out of. Of course, Ann can't be bothered.
Remember that friend who asked Ann, is this a constitutional crisis, that the president is showing mental unfitness for office, not to mention the blackmail victim of the Russian state? My guess is that Ann still thinks that it's all still a big joke. Is the president laughing pretty hard tonight?
I’m very liberal and deeply dislike Trump and disagree with the GOP agenda but I have to say, I am disgusted by this Op-Ed and by how sanguine so many of my fellow travelers on the left are, about unelected people trying to undermine our elected officials.
For God’s sake, stop prattling about Russia, stop fellating (see what I did there?) the FBI, and go out and win some elections. Or at least try and plant seeds for winning future elections.
That’s just how I feel.
I agree with Trump -- gutless
If the author actually is a real person in the Administration, it's probably somebody who knows they are about to get the boot and they are preparing a soft landing for themselves at CNN or MSNBC or something. What's funny is how easy it would be for such a person to play the media in this way.
Time to start putting the staff on the polygraph and fire those who fail.
harrogate and steve uhr,
As two genuinely statist Leftists, I appreciate you both for admitting this tactic will not help with electoral results.
When the Weekly World News found out that Ross Perot had secretly met with space aliens, they had the guts to put it on the front page. With a picture.
"The Resistance" for some reason is usually taken to mean the French "la Resistance," but the story was pretty much the same everywhere as far as the Communist goes.
The French have the additional burden of also owning up to the Vichy government and the behavior of the national government officials which led Churchill to order the Royal Navy to attack and sink the French navy right there in the Toulon harbor.
It should also be noted that the first American casualties in the European theater of WWII fell fighting the French military in North Africa; not the Germans.
Leftist Democrats are totalitarian whores.
"Or at least try and plant seeds for winning future elections."
Well they're certainly planting some kind of seeds...
It would seem important, from a news perspective, to know the identity of the writer, so that some judgment can be made by the public of their credibility. Rather than trusting the judgment of the editors of the NYT on the matter.
"It's going on because we told you it's going on."
No response from Trump is possible because he has no idea what they're talking about.
Yesterday's NYT: The "deep state" nonsense is proof of Trump's paranoia!
Today's NYT: Thank God we have a the "deep state" to protect us from Trump!
Tomorrow's NYT: Criticizing the deep state is treason. And racist, too.
How is this any different than Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis? Oh yeah, she had the personal respect to at least be public with her disobedience.
So I read all the tripe the NYT saw fit to print and I can only shake my head and think, "this is how you get maximum Trump". Also, excellent job of persuading all the fence-sitters to vote against the 'Deep State'. Lastly, my dear, departed Grandmother, a stringer for the Oshkosh Daily Northwestern and the Post-Crescent, always told me to remember that there is nothing dumber than a New York democrat.
Why is this important? There are no details in the story, no specifics. The writer just regurgitates the same laundry list of talking points in support of the narrative that we have heard from the media week after week for 2 years.
Hey, I heard Trump is appalling. Anybody else heard that?
@rhhardin - No response from Trump is possible because he has no idea what they're talking about.
No response is possible, but it is forthcoming.
Birkel,
I am no statist. If I were, I’d be ok with Deep State bullshit like this. We have very different political views. I don’t see that as making us enemies.
Thomas Jefferson financed Philippe Freneau, apparently mostly with State department funds, and wrote in his paper under pseudonyms.
But under today's code of journalistic ethics - and in The New York Times, its very own self?
Bob Boyd,
Worse yet, I heard Trump wants to challenge the D.C. status quo.
Can you believe it?!?
Pickering is hilarious. Tell me, if Trump is really being blackmailed by Russia as you claim, don't you think they would've had him not interfere with their work in Syria? Or Iran? Maybe told him to not give missiles explicitly intended to guard against them to Poland? Had him not boost fracking massively, depressing oil prices?
In short, if the Russians were blackmailing Trump, wouldn't he be behaving like a Democrat?
harrogate,
I declare a unilateral truce.
We can agree to disagree at a later date.
We heard this same garbage and lies about Trump and the 25th amendment last year, remember? The democrat party members were in unison, warning Americans that Trump was crazy, deranged, something had to be done NOW!!! So the president livestreamed the DACA meeting in his office, which he ran like the awesome boss that he is, and completely denuded Democrat party members of the 25th amendment fantasy, as well as driving a stake into the heart of their so-called concern for illegal aliens and "Dreamers". That's when Democrat party members gave us the "shithole" outrage. Lulz ... Very rarely do Democrat party members reference Dreamers anymore.
"Worse yet, I heard Trump wants to challenge the D.C. status quo.
Can you believe it?!?"
Sweet Jesus! Could he be that crazy?
The Trump haters keep announcing they're going to wheel out some really heavy guns one of these days. In the meantime,they're trying to get a sip of water so they can successfully yell "bang, you're dead!"
Let's review the updates we are recieving:
1. Trump colluding with Putin? No, you'd have to be fairly stupid to believe that.
2. Trump some other kind of traitor--the vaguer the better, since we have no evidence? Too embarrassing to mention.
3. Trump as lawless as Manafort? No evidence, and Mueller is apparently going back long before the time when Trump was President--an unprecedented attempt to make him look bad somehow.
3. Trump a combination of crazy and stupid, world leaders will refuse to have anything to do with him, world peace will be threatened, the markets will tumble ("the Rockies may crumble, our hate is here to stay"); er, not as such.
4. Trump difficult for staff, who skew toward the whiny, nerdy type, and wish he would pay more attention to briefings they work so hard on? Like Yes Minister? After all the hate, this is what we're left with?
Gutless and, I suspect, false. Jeremy Abrams, above, is absolutely correct that the honorable way to object to presidential policy when you are a member of the government is to resign your position and go public. Chickenshit move by whoever the author is and irresponsible of the Times to give him/her space. I am not sure why so many claims of chaos are made about Trump's administration. Maybe there is fierce debate about policy which is a good thing, but when you look honestly at day to day operations everything seems to go quite smoothly.
After the Dems performance yesterday at the Kavanaugh hearings I think they deserve the chaos prize.
Bob Boyd,
I have a strong suspicion Trump wants to turn away from proven loser policies, like those of Obama.
It is as if Trump doubts the Chosen One.
Brace yourself.
Man, if a guy can accomplish all he has even while being a moron and/or an idiot, let’s keep electing them! Sure beats the alternative!
It can't be Jeff Sessions. Unless the NYT edited out all the zzzzzzzzzzz's in the text.
Bob Boyd said...
Why is this important? There are no details in the story, no specifics. The writer just regurgitates the same laundry list of talking points in support of the narrative that we have heard from the media week after week for 2 years.
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Derp. It's important because the writer claims to be a government employee working in the WH. A person who is sworn to secrecy wrt to her official dealings.
It's not just a case oh him/her disagreeing with the POTUS , hge/she says his/her aim is to thwart him and BRING HIM DOWN.
IOW bring down the holder of elected constitutional office of the POTUS.
That's sedition, pal.
But apparently to the crazy-ass Left these days, that's okey dokey.
I’m for finding out who did this.
Whoever it is, is putting his or herself way above country. Better to resign now, spill the beans, and take the heat. The best reason not to is that this person believes he or she would be of value in another administration. Hanging on the job and trying to foil certain aspects smells like a deep stater. It’s sneaky and dishonest.
Don't worry, Birkel.
Someone will stop him. Someone must stop him!
There are unsung heroes of the Resistance hiding in the snowy woods of the bureaucracy, crouching over the dynamite plunger of leaks to the media, just waiting for the troop train of Trump's madness to cross the trestle.
Would be funny if Trump wrote it just to see if the NYT would unwittingly print his accomplishments.
There are NO senior administration officials that have lasted the two years. This is some disgruntled creep like Omarasa or Bannon.
The Resistance has a market.
Is it only a Leftist market?
Does the market corrupt the Left?
Remember, remember the fifth of September
New York Times' treason and plot
I see no reason why New York Times' treason
Should ever be forgot.
The best thing about those unsung heroes is their humility.
and we will find out just how senior this person is.
It'll be the third assistant to the undersecretary of human resources for HUD.
Or Pence ;
Blogger Laslo Spatula said...
I guess to get the Deep State under control we're going to have to elect a Real Fascist next time.
I am Laslo.
9/5/18, 7:04 PM
This is the greatest comment ever posted.
People who take this sort of tactic against Trump seriously, really must think that Trump is Hitler (cf. readering’s fantasy that this person is part of the French resistance). So let’s buy into readering’s fantasy fior a moment. History teaches us that an attempt on the President’s life must be made. Is that the next step for you to endorse, readering?
It would seem important, from a news perspective, to know the identity of the writer, so that some judgment can be made by the public of their credibility. Rather than trusting the judgment of the editors of the NYT on the matter.
This. (But hey- multiple sentences in a single rhhardin post? He has logorrhea tonight...)
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Lotta old people in Pasedena.
The author's writing reads feminine to me.
As do the tactics.
To be honest, I'm glad for this institutional envelope. It is exactly what I would expect of the executive staff around a President and it is why I have never worried too much about Trump being erratic, angry, feckless, gormless, hapless, thoughtless, or malignant.
We've had feeble presidents and incompetent presidents and unwell presidents and presidents too caught up in their own melodrama to govern well. We survived Franklin Pierce.
The worst presidents are those that effectively carry out really bad policies that all the experts agree upon. Those abound.
Wow. I thought that suggestion that the Deep State was resisting Trump was right-wing paranoia? The Paper of Record says otherwise. I think it's kind of amazing that they are allowing this admission out.
Blue wave they must be very confident.
Rabel ,
If so many NeverTrumpers weren’t pansy-asses, that might be helpful.
Have your anonymous sources get in touch with my anonymous sources.
The NYT could have published this under Letters to the Editor, but an anonymous article as an Op-Ed surely is a big no-no.
Greatest Song Recorded In The 20th Century
Heaven forbid that a meeting veer off topic.
Hey! It works!
Thanks Jon Ericson.
*doffs hat*
(eaglebeak)
Jay Elink is right--sedition, by the textbook definition of the word.
Also, NYT manages to confirm that the Deep State exists--makes Trump's argument for him.
Between Kavanaugh freakout, McCain funeral freakout, Woodward book, and this--I'd say the Deep State is pretty zetzed up, really trying to get Trump to lose his mind.
What he should do is declassIfy EVERYTHING.
So I think the person was brave, like the underground French resistance of WW2.
Hilarious. How many were communists ? About 80% ? I knew you and they would bond right away.
Blue wave they must be very confident.
Blue wave must be imaginary.
Plans A,B,C, D, E, F, G, H, I, and J have failed. Time for Plan K!
Sorry, I got the words a bit wrong,and correcting it makes it a bit better.
Remember, remember, the fifth of September,
The New York Times' treason and plot.
I know of no reason
Why the New York Times' treason
Should ever be forgot.
Bob Boyd said... Greatest Song Recorded In The 20th Century
i never noticed how many trans women were in that video before
"wouldn't he be behaving like a Democrat"
The source says aides made all those great moved *in spite* of Trump.
For God’s sake, stop prattling about Russia, stop fellating (see what I did there?) the FBI, and go out and win some elections. Or at least try and plant seeds for winning future elections.
That’s just how I feel.
Me too. We finally agree on something.
Either the deep state exists or the NYT is lying.
Nice.
@ gilbar
You'd know more about that kind of thing than I would.
As noted above,
The French "deep state" generally collaborated with the occupation government, or were Vichy, or at least kept its collective head down until it was safe to join De Gaulle.
The French resistance did remarkably little, seeing it as a whole, and given its potential scope and resources, which included huge stockpiles of arms and ammunition poorly controlled by either the Germans or the Vichy government. France was extremely well armed, and it was a mess getting all that material under control. Were it not, of course, that all this stuff was under the control of government functionaries.
In contrast in the island of Cebu, with access to stocks of ammunition (Cebu being the recipient of belated shipments of war material in 1942, by blockade runners), at least 25% of the population died in continuous guerrilla war against the Japanese.
There is resistance and there is resistance.
It's a good thing that people haven't been going on about an unaccountable govt. class that undercuts democratically elected officials for the past few years, because otherwise this might provide a shit ton of ammo for them.
"If so many NeverTrumpers weren’t pansy-asses, that might be helpful."
I was going to suggest that it could also be an effeminate male, but pansied out for fear of retribution.
According to the op-ed’s anonymous author, “there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment,” against President Trump because of the “instability” many witnessed.
RAchel Maddow fodder, for sure.
Hope-filled butthurt Leftwing eyes are glued!
Bob Boyd:
I dunno, "Princess Di" pretty much set off the Klaxons.
I find it very easy to believe any tales told of Donald's ignorance, childishness, and out-and-out shittiness. That said, I don't want him ousted from office by the means being tried by the Democrats and others in Washington who find him "not our kind, dear." (Even though I think he is unfit in every way to hold public office.)
For one thing, it sets the terrible and destructive precedent that every future president and other elected official will be subject to this same political-assassination by insinuation, smear, insult, and mob-assault. It will be the final death knell to our barely-hanging-on 20th-generation photocopy of a representative republic. Under our long-established system, Trump legitimately won the Presidency, and, short of evidence of high crimes on his part, he's entitled to stay in place.
For another thing, it will leave Pence as President, the opposite of an improved situation.
Sarah Carter says the declassification of the fisa documents are coming, so may that's the reason for this squirrel.
early whispers...
early whispers....
early whispers.... but thankfully, the Mueller probe will find something.
The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House....
Heroes in the shrubbery. Definitely a Pink Panther vibe.
Hagar said...The article is very well written as an English assignment; it is not Omarosa.
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Oma-who-sa?
You know Comey wrote a book recently. Maybe he's trying to keep his chops up and do some jabbing after that Iowa cornfield meditation didn't bring him the peace he sought. And oh..those unreviewed emails he said were automagically sussed. That info wasn't supposed to get out.
New stuff has a little of that flavor of those passages where he tells Obama his staying is more important with Trump en route.
if not... late stage whispers will do.
Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...Either the deep state exists or the NYT is lying.
Suppose both are true: The deep state exists AND the NYT is lying.
I think Scott Adams was right with his one screen two movies idea. One sides sees "The Hunger Games"; the other side sees "The Handmaid's Tale."
How do we know that there even is such a person? Or that he or she is really a "highly placed official" (or some such). All we have is the word of the New York Times. Maybe it's a highly-placed intern.
Suppose both are true: The deep state exists AND the NYT is lying.
I do suppose. In this case at least one is true. but yes, both are probably true.
Erratic behavior ... what happened to Poot and Trump tricked the deplorables with crappy facebook ads and leaked e-mails?? and a Russian under every bed?
@Rabel: What exactly is that in your avatar? It looks like either a far away shot of a nuclear explosion or a blurred close up of a fukitol pill standing on its edge on a shiny surface.
Whoever though Woodward's swan song would become a belly flop. He'd better step in right now to say what's right here if he wants to sell more books.
What I was referring to:
https://saraacarter.com/president-trump-may-declassify-the-20-fisa-docs-congress-wants/
It's hilarious how the leftwing totalitarians sing in unison how the insider deep stater is a "hero".
Thanks to the small handful of lefties on this site who get how dangerous this is.
leftwing totalitarians think STrozk is a hero, too.
Kind of fits Woodwards narrative.
It amazes me that Donald Trump has accomplished so much with dingbats like this floating around the West Wing. I assume “he” wants North Korea to have nukes, he wants the US economy to putter along below 3% instead of 4.4%, he wants trade agreements that beggar American workers, and he wants Muslim extremists to win in Syria and Iraq. Cold comfort for whom? Warm comfort for America’s adversaries in the world.
Deep State desperation is all in like a digital Tet Offensive. The USMC will arrest them for Treason before it’s over. There is no way Trump does not know who is behind this.
Operation Catapult, the Royal Navy's attack on the French fleet in July 1940, took place at Mers-el-Kebir in French Algeria not Toulon.
Anyone see echoes of Democrats screaming "Fitzmas," during the Bush Administration to whatever Mueller does?
Between Chuck Todd, the groupthink editorials under the Boston Globe and this anon. piece, President Trump and the Republicans the underdog for November and 2020.
Ask yourself this, how many whistleblowers occured during the first two years of the Obama and Clinton Administrations? Heck, who were the Woodward and Bernstein's during the post Watergate years on any Democrats, either in Congress or Presidents? Hint: It wasn't NBC that broke Rep. Weiner or Lois Lerner or Weinstein (BIG Donor to the Democrats)
MikeD:
clickable:
rhhardin, maybe too early but, thread winner! Speaking of Mad Maureen, Aussie's created a great takedown: OK, it also confused me but I'm working up to senile: Movie scenes
For a more understandable post: Tim Blair stuff
Probably Pence angling for the job
Russian Chickelit,
I think it is the ghost of the then recently deceased Barbara Bush haunting Althouse.
Actual documents aren't news anymore:
http://thefederalist.com/2018/09/04/papadopouloss-court-docs-provide-evidence-russiagate-setup-get-trump/
The NyTimes is an enemy of the people.
Anyone else think there's some internecine envy going on here? Woodward -- whose "Deep Throat" is easily the most famous anonymous source in American history -- writes a new book, and the very day after its release, here's the NYT with ... what bids fair to be the new most famous anonymous source in American history. Heck, we could even wangle the SCOTUS in here, and drop Times v. Sullivan to second tier. Bonus points for persuading Kavanaugh not to recuse himself.
I'm with those who think that this will turn out to be much less than meets the eye. Unless it's an actual "senior official" (Bannon and Pence are the only ones occurring to me now), it's going to be someone more like, say, Jamie Gorelick, someone so compromised already that anonymity is really essential. Unfortunately, I think the Trump WH is way short of pro-Trump leakers, so we'll have to rely on pure luck.
Blogger Robert Cook said...
I find it very easy to believe any tales told of Donald's ignorance, childishness, and out-and-out shittiness.
Cookie, I won't mention what I find it very easy to believe about you.
I should've added that of course we now "know" who "Deep Throat" was, except that no one can quite remember his name, can they?
Mark felt, although I figure Alexander hair had some part of It, perhaps cord meyer
As noted above,
The French "deep state" generally collaborated with the occupation government, or were Vichy, or at least kept its collective head down until it was safe to join De Gaulle.
Yes, anybody who is impressed with the non-communist French Resistance needs to read some history.
You could star with "D-Day Through German Eyes." The Germans were astonished when the French turned on them after D Day. One day it was all collaboration and the next the Germans were bad guys.
A lot of propaganda followed the war and the French Resistance was greatly magnified. The troops in Normandy noticed that the French were sullen and not happy at being liberated but it will take more years for that to come out.
I'm deeply skeptical. Would this heroic, principled resister deep in the enemy camp really risk it all to emote in a blab-happy newspaper? It would be like Yeo-Thomas writing to The Guardian to brag about how he's sticking it to the Nazis. The Trump administration has finally decided to harness the insanity of the Democrats. It would be almost impossible to overplay it.
I should add that DeGaulle and the Free French in England did a lot to plan for the period after the invasion.
They were not the French in France, however.
Fronch in fronce.
There would not be so much craziness in D.C. were there less power available. I blame the voters. Vote Libertarian
Hero because they put country above the crazy golfer.
Hammond X. Gritzkofe:
OK, but after we kick the Progs out, Ce n'est pas?
There seems to be some parallel universe here where it's WWII.
I grew up with the “Hogan’s Hero’s” Le Beau myth that the occupied French Resistance were independent. In truth, many of their leaders were French Nationals working for SOE.
The more important question, RV, is which country?
There is more than one these days, which gets closer to the root of your problems.
@wild chicken: I think everyone is riffing on the words “ resistance” and “saboteur”
Tantas cabezas con forma de pene, tan poco pensando.
I think everyone is riffing on the words
.....I'm buying more ammunition!!
Is it time to deplatform NYT and similar conspiracy sites?
This just comes across as a teenager in his bedroom claiming to be disguised as a stormtrooper on the Death Star.
I would hope that the God Emperor would put his staff to the question.
We can go old school but I think lie detector tests are warrented.
I would also apply for a FISA warrant to tap the phones of the reporters on the New York. Times. I would use the same pretext that was used to tap the Trump campaign.
Turnabout is fair play after all.
es un golpe!
Why anyone would believe any of this palace intrigue bullshit is puzzling to me. I doubt that the author has anything to do with the Trump administration. I assume ALL anonymously sourced quotes and writings are phony. My guess is that the op ed’s author is probably a lefty anti-Trump columnist.
So far most of the published anti-Trump crap is stuff that will not move Trump’s base away from him. This will be no exception.
They are placing all their chips on the mid-terms. If they can flip the House they think they can tie up the Trump administration with dozens of House committee investigations. And the nitwits, nincompoops and posers that make up most of the Congressional GOP and its leaders, given their past behavior, are very likely to follow the lead of the Congressional Democrats and buy into the anti-Trump memes that would follow a Democrat victory in the mid-terms.
They have to get rid of Trump because he is making everything better. If Trump succeeds in fixing the economy, foreign policy and domestic policy Trump will be a cinch to get re-elected in 2020. They must prevent this from happening at all cost. But in order to do it without a lot of political fallout raining down on them they must separate Trump from his base. It must frustrating that all their shenanigans up to now have not budged the Trump base. If anything it has strengthened Trump’s standing with his voters.
I have no idea what this is other than everyone is furiously spinning straw into gold because Trump gets the best ratings. Best ever.
The Democrats can not budge the Trump voters because their appeal is based on hatred of white people and traditional American values.
Their most celebrated candidates are bitches of color who are replacing old white men. Even in JFK's old district. A white liberal like JFK could not get elected in the democrat party.
It's all Keith Ellison and that Somali cunt that married her brother to stay in the country.
You can see it in Chicago where the the tiny dancer is quitting so they can elect a monkey in the middle.
The segregation of the parties are commencing to pick up speed.
lot of speculation that its Pence, but could easily be Mnuchin or Pompeo. Or Coates.
Maybe they can run Colin Kaepernick for President.
He ticks off all the boxes for the Democratic Party.
Just do it.
The NYT is the enema of the state.
“We just don't know his/her name, because he/she has got to stay hidden to continue sabotaging the work of the President the deplorables elected.”
This person probably voted for Trump. He is a deplorable too. Perhaps he’s a smart deplorable. Maybe being in such close proximity to Trump, he can no longer deny the dangerous incompetence, which makes him smarter than the majority of those who continue to support Trump.
The real scandal here is that "senior administration official" is one of approximately 1200 plus people.
It's possible the White House cook wrote this.
Blogger John Pickering said...
lot of speculation that its Pence, but could easily be Mnuchin or Pompeo. Or Coates
This is why the article is fake news. They use "senior" administration official because they want you to think it's someone you've heard of.
It's not. It's some gopher you've never heard of and wouldn't consider a "senior" offciial.
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Gaaah!
Never Trumpers in general act crazy. Or is this a Trump planted article? This will only generate more support for Trump. The vast majority of people will see this as back stabbing and betrayal, ans the average person doesn't support that. And the NY Times thinks this will hurt Trump- or they wouldn't have published it.
eric doesn't understand the ground rules, and this is where Ann could help her readers. Guys, it's not made up, the newspaper editors know who the person is, they call him a senior official who refers to the Cabinet discussing the 25th amendment. Woodward is also a reporter who has tapes and verified sources. You guys have Donald Trump and his reputation for honesty. Ann has done many of you a terrible misservice. Might as well just go back to Powerline and the Daily Mail.
The talking heads on the left were still pimping Woodwards piece of fiction this morning, despite every named person in the book has called it a complete lie. But,but,but, it supports what Amarosa, wrote, which supports what that other kook ball wrote, which all support what the talking heads have heard from their anonymous sources. Now we have an anonymous op ed, that offers zero details about a single thing...and guess what...."we cant verify the op ed but,but,but,but it validates all the previous lies", so all of this circular logic PROVES the veracity of ALL of it.
Oh yeh
Forgot
Collusion!
$100 the source is Omerosa.
If it was a real person it would be a NeverTrump conservative since the complaints are that Trump is not a real conservative and that his behavior is the behavior NeverTrumpers attribute to him. But I think it is an attempt to spread discord on the Trump team by making up a right wing cabal story. The Russia thing was really getting old so now we have a vast right wing conspiracy. And the Pope - now there's stories that suggest that it would be a good thing to be more Catholic than the Pope. All at once - timed for after Labor Day and after.
In this country we have among us people who have been through all situations so when history strikes again we can find among us a person, a group who's already fought their way through. For instance, Martin Luther King had to rise above profound disillusionment caused by a group working to exclude and injure his people, he had to overcome to lead his people to fight for their rights in America as Americans. This is part of his greatness and he did do it. Not imagine, "we shall overcome." It was done. So we have an example before us.
It’s truly astounding to read so many here still in denial when it comes to Trump, even in fantasy land, reality is coming to bite you folks in the ass.
These jerks figure that we will stop being deplorable if they succeed in unseating Trump. They ain't seen nothin' yet!
What could tomorrow have in store?
John Pickering said...lot of speculation that its Pence, but could easily be Mnuchin or Pompeo. Or Coates.
Casting dispersions as widely as possible serves the cause of bringing down the whole White House. Maybe some deep staters from the Obama Admin could steady the nation's nerves as it redirected itself leftwards and found a new and different loadster.
Guys, it's not made up, the newspaper editors know who the person is, they call him a senior official who refers to the Cabinet discussing the 25th amendment.
I'm not saying it's made up. I'm saying the Senior Official is one out of 1200+ people and is probably someone we've never heard of before.
No se te ve nada todavÃa
readering said...What could tomorrow have in store?
Maybe a disclosure of a modern Kreisau Circle -- with deep state/thinkers looking out for the nation after the inevitable collapse of the criminal Trump regime? Inga's all in for that scenario.
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Fwiw, based on my experience with NYT sourcing rules for Administration officials, this person could easily be someone most of us have never heard of & more junior than you’d expect. Like a deputy at legislative affairs or NEC.
Yesterday's Inga: The Deep State is a figment of Trump's fevered paranoid imagination! Trump is doomed!
Today's Inga: The Deep State is real, and it's spectacular! Trump is doomed!
I wonder if employees in a corporation ever describe their CEO in a similar way?
Oh wait, that literally happens at every large corporation.
Given that this is all fiction, I guess we need George Smiley on the job.
The resistance tactics reminds me of KGB and Stasi tactics during the Cold War. Lots of mind games.
Rumor has it that essentially everyone within the D.C. Beltway and even beyond feels and existential threat from Trump. He's threatening decades of "prosperity."
Ah, the stupid racist fool of a president with a rebellious, traitorous staff. The resistance!! In the very White House. But they haven't stopped the reversal of the Paris "Accord", or the roaring Dow, or the rising business confidence, or the new ultra right wing SCOTUS member who will take away all of the rights of women and blacks and who will be there in the court long after these brave resistance commandos are forgotten. Nor have they arrested the progress with Korea or stopping the undoing of the Iran "deal" or the fresh deal with Mexico or the NATO alliance's panic over having to pay their fair share.
So the resistance hasn't done, in a word, shit.
“...figure that we will stop being deplorable if they succeed in unseating Trump.”
Oh no, the deplorables will always be among us.
“Today's Inga: The Deep State is real, and it's spectacular! Trump is doomed!”
Um...wrong. There is no deep state, there never was a deep state. There are simply people around Trump who now know what a disaster he is. Maybe they are patriots, maybe they love the country more than Trump.
Das Ende ist nahe.
the person who posts under a Cyrillic name says
Casting dispersions as widely as possible serves the cause of bringing down the whole White House.
Hey Ivan, I think you mean "aspersions," at least that was what I was tossing! Ivan baby, be a terrible shame if that brought down the "whole" White House! Ha! Wouldn't want that to happen, would we, hey, Ivan baby!? Ha! Casting dispersions is what you guys do! For chrissakes this fellow is a big thought leader for Ann's tribe! Ann must be laughing her head off!
Fucking communists.
Inga...Allie Oop said: Um...wrong. There is no deep state, there never was a deep state.
Inga denies the existence of entrenched bureaucracy?
Hey Ivan, I think you mean "aspersions," at least that was what I was tossing!
I thought someone would fall for it...why do you think I used the phrase "as widely as possible"?
"I'll take Embarrassing Moments in Journalism for 500."
Blogger Чикелит said...
Rumor has it that essentially everyone within the D.C. Beltway and even beyond feels and existential threat from Trump. He's threatening decades of "prosperity."
He would do well to break up D.C. and move it piece meal out into the nation. Put headquarters for different departments all throughout the United States.
He would do well to break up D.C. and move it piece meal out into the nation.
At least set it back to tolerable levels of power.
He would do well to break up D.C. and move it piece meal out into the nation. Put headquarters for different departments all throughout the United States.
Best thing that could happen. There is no plausible reason to concentrate our federal government in DC with today's communication networks. In fact, it is arguably a security risk.
The NYT is the enema of the state.
An enema clears an impacted condition. NYT is a collusion platform for domestic, foreign, and Mexican agents, seeking to disenfranchise the People and our Posterity. They are the Anti-enema.
Journalism has cratered. It's a bit depressing, but the plus is that a person needs to read much less of the news because it's so worthless.
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