August 29, 2018

The face of the Democratic Party's old-age problem.

Donna Shalala — who was Bill Clinton's Secretary of Health and Human Services (and, before that, the Chancellor here at UW) — is running for Congress, seeking elective office for the first time at the age of 77.

I see the NYT ran an interview just before the primary (which she won yesterday). Let's see if they addressed the question of whether she's too old to begin a congressional career, the general oldness of the Democrats in Congress, and whether all the Democrats these days are either too old or too young (as if middle age doesn't exist anymore).

No. They didn't.

125 comments:

Kevin said...

Don't trust Democrats over 30.

Or under 30.

Bay Area Guy said...

When I'm 77, if God willing I get there, NO, I will not be consumed with lefty politics. Doesn't Donna have some grandkids to play with?

Nonapod said...

Is it a function of the old guard Dems who have been in power for decades not wanting to share power, or mentor younger up and comers? Or is it a function of younger people being far more radical and therefor not really suitable for mainstream politics? Or some combination of both?

CJinPA said...

They only got Shalala to run because the late Warren Christopher refused.

rehajm said...

They see the Supremes doing it. They're the backstop to what they're doing, the rest doesn't really matter. Competence? Dementia? A Goldendoodle to could do what any congress critter is required to do once they're in...

Jupiter said...

The problem with Donna Shalala is not her age, although I would agree it would be preferable if she had not attained it. But lots of people that age and even older are not communist HellSows.

gahrie said...

How about whether or not an apologist/defender for Bill Clinton is an appropriate candidate in the era of #metoo?

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Women can't be too old for something, Professor. It's sexist to even suggest that.
For shame!

readering said...

For some reason I don't mind this, although I agree with the sentiment in general. Will vote against Feinstein for the second time this year and dread Bernie or Biden running for pres next year. But there's something about a veteran rookie in the House that appeals to me if it works for the voters. Like JQA after presidency.

paminwi said...

Didn't she stand along with Madeline Albright supporting Bill Clinton for a photo op?

Nonapod said...

A Goldendoodle to could do what any congress critter is required to do once they're in...

While goldendoodles are pertty smart, imagine what a border collie could do as a congressmen. We might finally have some well crafted out legislation.

stevew said...

Most offensive to me are the lifelong "public service" pols - regardless of party. I don't care how old they are - just questioning their motivation.

-sw

MikeR said...

"too old or too young (as if middle age...)" That would fit with how the Republican Party is becoming the party of the middle class, with the wealth Elites and the poorest allied against them.

Nonapod said...

This new Andrew Gillum character is the right age. He might be the superstar the Dems are hoping for. Assuming a 40% corporate tax rate isn't too radical for middle America of course. The Democrat party requires superstars to be successful.

rhhardin said...

She can use Clapton's acoustic Layla for the theme song.

DanTheMan said...

>>Assuming a 40% corporate tax rate isn't too radical for middle America of course.

As a Floridian, I support a 400% corporate tax rate. That would raise 10 times a much revenue, obviously...

William said...

Shalala would be a great name for a doo-wop group. The name does not, however, resonate with gravitas and dignity. She's fortunate to be a Democrat. She will not be mocked. .

Curious George said...

"Doesn't Donna have some grandkids to play with?"

Never married, so no. Not a lesbian, just well....

Headed up the CLlinton Foundation.

As far as age and health, had a stroke a few years ago.

Ugh.

Rob said...

Shalala spent two years (2015-17) as president of the Clinton Foundation. What stories she could tell! But won't.

Nonapod said...

I support a 400% corporate tax rate. That would raise 10 times a much revenue, obviously

Similary I often wonder when lefties aggitate for a higher minimum wage they stop at $15 an hour. I mean, what's wrong with a $100 an hour? Or a $1,000,000? Then everyone could be rich! There's no reason to not want everyone to make a million dolars an hour. Unless... you're racist!

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Privilege is tough to give up and I imagine there's little as addictive as the privilege of wielding government power. It is grotesque that we have a political class that clutches desperately to it all the way to the grave. Just like any old Soviet apparatchik.

MadisonMan said...

I'm as anti-incumbent as anyone, and this doesn't bother me. Sure, she's old, but she's not been entrenched in Congress since when I was in College. Bonus: She can't stick around for a long time! Maybe if I were a Democrat in her rich District I might be concerned about appealing to young voters. Shalala is a pretty good politician though -- I would never underestimate her chances.

gilbar said...

Nonapod said: Or a $1,000,000? Then everyone could be rich!

Yes! Exactly! And index it to inflation!!!
our Trillions in national dept would soon be completely insignificant,
since $15,000,000,000,000 would soon be less than the cost of a bowl of soup

wild chicken said...

They're old locally, too. Though good at recruiting Enviro Studies grad students to run for local office and be their "young" public face.

Behind the scenes, white hair and graybeards. Including the women.

Hagar said...

Last gasp of the '60's campus radicals.

Mr Wibble said...

The Clinton money machine is breaking down, and people are left wondering what they're going to do now. A lot of people were banking on Hillary!'s ascension to the WH.

gilbar said...

MadisonMan said : She can't stick around for a long time!

Since the Powers that Be are opposed to term limits; maybe we need to RAISE the minimum Age for being in Congress (to 100?)

Drago said...

Mr Wibble: "The Clinton money machine is breaking down, and people are left wondering what they're going to do now."

The Clintons and their many, many, lefty and LLR allies have been quite transparent with how they are positioning and dangling the idea of Chelsea out there.

There is no question they are going to force some dem out of office somewhere to clear the runway for Chelsea and woe to any dem who is targeted by the Clintons and refuses to walk away gently. The Clinton's will quietly work with Cuomo's people and next thing you know, blammo! A nice little investigation into something or other related to that dem.

Voila! An empty seat appears "out of nowhere".

And at that point, they can turn the cash registers at the Clinton Global Slush Fund right back on, safe in the knowledge that the entire DOJ/FBI have been put at their disposal.

Again.

Sebastian said...

"No. They didn't."

This is funny (seriously).

Original Mike said...

She turned the UW football program around, so there’s that!

Wilbur said...

She's running to replace a retiring GOP warhorse, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. The district is not particularly Republican but the abuelas loved them some Ileana. Shalala may win, if her female opponent is not real good at the retail level.

Donna may have 'splainin' to do about her service in the Clinton cabinet, Elian and all that.

Mr Wibble said...

The Clintons and their many, many, lefty and LLR allies have been quite transparent with how they are positioning and dangling the idea of Chelsea out there.

There is no question they are going to force some dem out of office somewhere to clear the runway for Chelsea and woe to any dem who is targeted by the Clintons and refuses to walk away gently. The Clinton's will quietly work with Cuomo's people and next thing you know, blammo! A nice little investigation into something or other related to that dem.

Voila! An empty seat appears "out of nowhere".

And at that point, they can turn the cash registers at the Clinton Global Slush Fund right back on, safe in the knowledge that the entire DOJ/FBI have been put at their disposal.


The whole Chelsea thing has a whiff of desperation. I don't think it will work.

I've never thought Huma was Hillary!'s secret lesbian lover. Instead, she was Chelsea's replacement as the Clinton heir. Huma follows Hillary! into the White House and works a couple of key executive branch positions, while Anthony Weiner climbed the ranks of the House Democrat leadership. They're soon the next D.C. power couple, and one of them eventually runs for President. Chelsea was sent to a bunch of schools and married off as soon as it was apparent that she wasn't cut out for politics.

bagoh20 said...

I'm praying for another dinosaur extinction event. Godspeed to the Trump meteor!

Carter Wood said...

From a Washington Post feature on Shalala, April 1993.

Shalala describes the transition of power in Washington as a critical point in American history, a juncture of need and opportunity that calls for a great leap forward in social policy. Something akin to the creation of Social Security in 1935, which she calls the most sweeping advance in social service programs ever. This is the time and these are the people, she says of herself and her counterparts. It is time to make history. "We've spent our whole careers waiting for this moment," she says. "We better seize it."

mccullough said...

She just want to Lay in State in the Rotunda when she kicks. Her best chance is to die while in Congress. Maybe the president will order the flag flown at half staff for a month

Darrell said...

Donna Shalala can reassure voters by telling them that she has a pact with Satan to give her the time necessary to complete his agenda.

bagoh20 said...

"Shalala describes the transition of power in Washington as a critical point in American history, a juncture of need and opportunity that calls for a great leap forward in social policy."

"great leap forward"

That sounds familiar. I agree that there are too many damn people in the world, so you go girl.

Levi Starks said...

Same problem at NPR.
It’s still being run by the young idealists that started it 40 years ago.
However the me too movement did give them the opportunity to jettison a few.

rhhardin said...

Old people is okay but I don't see why they're not smarter at that age.

mccullough said...

Maybe she can use Sha la la la la la la live for today as her campaign song. She was 26 when that song came out.

rhhardin said...

How do we know McCain is in the box, lying in state.

FIDO said...

Never married, so no.


Not to be blunt, but the marriage rate in her community is abysmal and fecundity and marriage are not equvalent the way they are in a Hindu family.

But no kids means no kids...which frankly is a novelty in its own way.

No long term relationship, no kids, no Great American Novel and the best she has in her resume is defending lying cheating scum.


No wonder she is mean as a rattlesnake. But is she single by choice or because she is a very unpleasant human being? A preexisting condition, as it were.

I don't care and don't care to know. She's ten years from a dirt nap and wants to make her mark SOMEHOW.

In some ways, her losing is sadder than Hillary being denied that prize...probably since Hillary clearly deserved the Karma Bus which hit her. Donna does not, though she's suspicious just by being one of their intimates.

Honest people do not gather to their cause

Darrell said...

How do we know McCain is in the box, lying in state.

I saw the NY Post cover and for a second I thought McCain was wearing a red dress and heels.

FIDO said...

Which is to say I hope she loses

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Oh great, another decrepit old Clintonista twat. She may very well win in that shithole district with the exception of the few white and jewish liberals in coral gables, but Nelson is going to lose his Senate seat to Scott, and DeSantis is going to replace him in the Governor's Mansion.

Howard said...

She is doing this because she wants to vote for Trumps impeachment. It's a histerical event she wants to get in on the ground floor.

narciso said...

Salazar, is the latin sharyl Atkinson, she's twice as competent as the typical news reader, so they didn't know what with her,

narciso said...

before Shalala joined the Clinton cabinet, she was president at the u Wisconsin, where he had a decidedly very pc outlook,

Etienne said...

A big problem in DC is unless you go are filthy rich, you have to find someplace to live. Many go and buy a cot and sleep in their office.

Old people get kind of cranky without a nice bed.

hombre said...

Blogger rhhardin said...
“Old people is okay but I don't see why they're not smarter at that age.”

As someone who are that age I would not consider running again. As I look at the elected officials it is clear to me that I am probably still smart enough. I’m just not keen enough. Of course, as a Democrat, Shalala need not be smart or keen the left mediaswine will cover for her.

narciso said...

she was on cnn latino, one of the rare stars, the Colombian station, the Venezuelan based station, a very incisive interviewer,

robother said...

Shalala, say it loud, its like music playing
Say it soft, its almost like praying
NYT just met a girl named... Shalala.

mccullough said...

Shalala, as Chancellor, got rid of Division 1 Baseball at Madison.

The Badgers are the only school in the Big Ten without a baseball team.

Pathetic.

narciso said...

yes, chancellor was it, I think it was roger Kimball who first pointed her out, In the new criterion,

Temujin said...

Here is who Shalala is running against: Maria Elvira Salazar

narciso said...

the herald of course, endorsed the alien abductee:

https://babalublog.com/2018/08/29/cuban-american-republican-maria-elvira-salazar-to-face-democrat-donna-shalala-for-floridas-27th-congressional-district/

Nonapod said...

the herald of course, endorsed the alien abductee

I'd still rather have someone who believes they were abducted by and are still in communication with extraterrestrials over a socialist.

Drago said...

PMJ: "Oh great, another decrepit old Clintonista twat."

EASY THERE!!

Calm down. You wouldn't want to set off LLR Chuck would you?

He doesn't like it at all when anyone spends time critiquing dems.

LLR Chuck doesn't like that. Not. One. Bit.

narciso said...

Salazar, is the sensible candidate, we don't even use the paper to train pets, but the coupons are absorbent,

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Lucky NY - more Clintons. They money grub while everything rots.

Qwinn said...

Now insanely historically ignorant does one have to be to label their policy preference a "great leap forward"?

n.n said...

"great leap forward"

At least they have the good sense of hiding the collateral damage under a layer of privacy, promises of universal medical care, cosmopolitan venues, etc. A billion fetuses, offspring, babies or non-persons are baked into its progress. The rest are marginalized under diversity or color judgments.

Limited blogger said...

What happened to Florida? Enough New Yorkers have migrated there to turn the state Blue?

n.n said...

gerontophobia

Amadeus 48 said...

Everything old is new again. The Dems would like to run FDR for a fifth term.

wholelottasplainin said...

ccullough said...
Maybe she can use Sha la la la la la la live for today as her campaign song. She was 26 when that song came out.

************
♫ ♪♫
"They say, they say, she'll never be true. cheat....cheat... cheat" ♫ ♫♪♫

Bilwick said...

Old statists never die. They keep shtupping the taxpayer.

buwaya said...

Maria Elvira Salazar

Cubana, well-spoken, good-looking, and impeccable Spanish, having been a "talking head" on Spanish language media.

Maybe too impeccable, too polished.

Rabel said...

A surprising degree of hostility - in both directions - in that interview.

Jess said...

Her name sounds too much like a skateboard maneuver. That will confuse the younger voters.

Darrell said...

Old Lefties are like young Lefties.
Pieces of shit.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Great Leap mass famine. It can happen to you, and you're going to like it.

Temujin said...

You have to cut Shalala some slack for not recognizing her 'Great Leap Forward' moment. She's spent most of her life in academia. There's no way she'd have run into any history books.

Michael K said...

The Democrats don't have an age problem. Those are the only Democrats with any common sense. They have a problem with 39 year old Mayors who want to raise taxes 40%.

Francisco D said...

The difference between old Lefties and new Lefties is that the older ones are better equipped to play the game and be less threatening to the average voter.

They don't throw bombs, they plant them. The results may be the same, but the older ones know how not to get caught.

Think about what really caused the 2008 market crash.

Rabel said...

Shalala suffered a stroke in 2015. There's a lot of negativity on her Wikipedia site.

Somebody on the left doesn't like her. I have to think it's got to do with something more than her age.

The Vault Dweller said...

Blogger Nonapod said...
Is it a function of the old guard Dems who have been in power for decades not wanting to share power, or mentor younger up and comers? Or is it a function of younger people being far more radical and therefor not really suitable for mainstream politics? Or some combination of both?


I think in some ways it is both, with the former causing in part the latter. I'm not directly familiar with either parties' inner workings, but it strikes me that for last decade or so, the Republicans have had a much healthier bench than the Democrats. I suspect that Republican politics are much less territorial, than Democratic politics are. All a Republican needs to check off is want low taxes, low regulation, have to be at least moderately pro-life, and you can't be anti-gun. If you got those down there is a lot of wiggle room. In Democratic politics it strikes me as much more identity politic oriented so everyone is prone to stake out their own fiefdom, and make the most of it they can, so come election season someone has to appease the left-handed gay latino caucus or they won't stand a chance in California. Weird groups like this that you have to appease structurally favors the entrenched existing candidates because they have already developed relationships and knowledge. And I'm certain people like the Clintons loved this fact and used their powerbase to strangle off any support for possible up and coming challengers while they were still in the crib.

So what is a young aspiring democrat to do? If you aren't a favored political family scion, like Drooling Joe Kennedy who was bestowed the response to the state of the union address by democrat muckety-muks, then the only way to get noticed is to develop your own constituency powerbase. And in democrat politics the the most under-served constituency group are the far-left wacky socialists. So why wouldn't Ocasio-Cortez seek them out? That gives her a seat at the table. Short and medium term this is bad for Democrats and good for Republicans, long term it is bad for everyone because we might get ridiculous policies that politically can't be undone and doom the nation. Venezuela 2.0 is just around the corner.

Qwinn said...

I *still* can't get over "great leap forward".

Why didn't she just lay claim to having the "final solution"?

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Mr Wibble said...

The Dems lost a lot of seats at every level under Obama. Most of those were younger Dems, because the old guard are safely ensconced in deep blue districts (it's how they got to be the old guard). Going hard left plays well with the donors, and keeps the old guard in power because it pleases the activists. But it also means that red-state Dems are put in a tough position; they either go hard left as well, or try to veer towards the center and risk pissing off the base that they need to win primaries and raise money.

TestTube said...

How about the fun and excitement factor?

Beto is fun and exciting.

Ocasio-Cortez is fun and exciting.

Obama was fun and exciting

Clintonites are not fun nor exciting.

Trump....is fun and exciting.

wwww said...


70 year old new candidates aren't common. The 30-something Florida candidate's theme song is Walk it Talk it. How much youth do you want?


You want youthful, wait for Nov. 2018. The number of young candidates is high, both on the federal and state level. The generational shift is underway.

This is the oldest Congress in US history. A massive generational change is underway. Both parties.

Millennials now outnumber registered Boomers voters in Penn. Other states see similar booms.

10 years from now it'll be so youthful you'll be sick of all the youth.

Qwinn said...

Red state Dems don't really have much of a problem with their base. They simply lie to their constituents that they're moderate, then vote hard left after winning. Their activist base doesn't mind (and will actually take outrage during the election to make independents think it's safe to vote for the con artist). They're in on the con.

n.n said...

great leap forward... final solution

The wicked solution to an albeit hard problem (i.e. sex, taxes, and responsibility).

n.n said...
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n.n said...

the older ones know how not to get caught... the 2008 market crash

Mr. Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and in particular at Fannie Mae

Leverage... and anthropogenic progressive leaps. Catastrophic.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Did someone say Clinton?

Here's something the Alphabet channel hack-D press won't touch.

The Anatomy Of Hillary Clinton's $84 Million Money-Laundering Scheme

wholelottasplainin said...

Rabel said...
Shalala suffered a stroke in 2015. There's a lot of negativity on her Wikipedia site.

Somebody on the left doesn't like her. I have to think it's got to do with something more than her age.
******************

I think someone's bitter about not having got enough warm slurpies from her.

wildswan said...

I've heard that 120,000 more Republicans than Democrats voted in Tuesday's Florida primary. So I think that the generational change won't play out as the Democrats presently expect. It seems that there is something wrong with the pollsters where they can predict very well how Democrats will vote or change but they have been far off on the Republicans since Scott Walker and the Trump polling failure hasn't taught them anything. I guess the pollsters think Florida voters will go for Shalala because she's old. But in Shattered it distinctly says that the Florida voters who went for Trump were retirees from the Mid-West and their voting pattern early in the evening predicted the fall of the Blue Wall of the Midwest later on. In other words, older people are related to younger people and respond to the dilemmas and needs of their children and grandchildren. Trump is creating a chance for the younger generation to be prosperous workers, not sullen welfare parasites. And Shalala is associated with The Resistance and It's My Turn. Resistance to what? to that prosperity. It's My Turn to? To bring about Venezuela North.

walter said...

She might adhere to:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1328919129/?tag=houghtonmif04-20

donald said...

Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi ain’t no spring chickens either.

Big Mike said...

The Florida 27th is in the southeastern corner of the state and the Cuban-American vote is important, as is the Noo Yawk snowbird vote. The GOP put up a young and beautiful Cuban-American TV anchor who can win by asking Shalala one simple question: “When you were the CEO of the Clinton Foundation how much money was raised for Haitian Earthquake relief efforts and how much was actually spent in Haiti?” I don’t know how many Haitian refugees are eligible to vote, but that question should get all of their votes.

OTOH Maria Elvira Salazar has to be low on cash after a tough primary fight and Shalala supposedly raised $2million and only spent only one of those millions so Ms. Salazar could probably use a donation or two.

Big Mike said...

Oops. Maria Elvira Salazar may look young, but it turns out she’s 56. A hawt 56, but not so young after all. (Except by contrast with Donna Shalala.)

Meade knows about hawt women in their fifties.

buwaya said...

"The GOP put up a young and beautiful Cuban-American TV anchor"

Beautiful, yes, but she's not that young.
She's 56. She is one of those women, professional beauties, who have been well-maintained.

More to the point, as a mass media professional for both Univision and Telemundo she can campaign in media-class Spanish. And she's got the Cuban vote locked up.

Big Mike said...

@buwaya, I did catch that. She’s 56 but, like my wife at that age, hawt.

walter said...

Yeah..she's not the typical 56 year old woman. The contrast with Sha La La is severe.

steve uhr said...

She is credited with reinvigorating the Badger's football program, which is ranked no. 4 in most preseason polls. She was inducted this year into the UW Athletic Hall of Fame.

CWJ said...

Steve uhr,

Yes, but what did she DO.

cubanbob said...

The Democrats in Florida have just nominated the least likely to win candidate for governor. Anyone who knows Florida knows that a state that does not have a state income tax nor allow a local income tax, has a homestead property tax cap and forbids the state from issuing general obligation bonds is not going to elect a progressive as governor. And if even by some horrible miracle he were to be elected there is no chance the legislature is going to pass such a hike in the corporate income tax. To begin to even fund what Gillum supports not only will the Democrats have to win both houses of the legislature along with the governorship but to fund their agenda they will need to amend the state constitution to eliminate the homestead cap on property taxes, pass an amendment to pass a state and local income taxes and permit the state to float general obligation bonds. Good luck with that. There is a reason people leave tax shitholes in the Northeast to come to Florida.

As for Donna Shalala, having met her at several charitable events when she at the UM, I can say she is a very smart, personable and likable woman. I wish she would have remained at the UM where in my opinion she did a great job in fundraising for medical research. Can she win? Possibly but Salazar has the edge and if Illeana comes out supporting her she will most likely win.

steve uhr said...

She recruited and hired Pat Richter in 1989 as AD. He inherited a program in disarray, with outmoded facilities, struggling teams, and a deficit of $2.1 million.

He made a priority of modernizing the sports facilities, including construction of the Kohl Center and renovations to Camp Randall Stadium. He reversed the financial fortunes of the department, erasing the deficit and building a budget reserve of $6.4 million.

Richter hired Barry Alvarez in 1990. Alvarez inherited a program that had not had a winning season since 1984, and had only won seven games in Big Ten Conference play in that time.

Considering the awful state of the program he'd inherited, Alvarez engineered a very quick return to respectability. After only winning eleven games in his first three seasons (including a 1–10 record in his first year), the Badgers steamrolled through the 1993 season, notching a 10–1–1 mark and their first Rose Bowl appearance since 1963, along with only the second bowl win in school history. During his tenure, the Badgers won or shared three Big Ten titles and played in three Rose Bowls (1994, 1999 and 2000), winning all three of them. He also led the Badgers to 11 bowl games; before his arrival they had been to only six bowls in their entire history. The 1998 team notched the first 11-win season in school history, while the 1999 team won the school's first outright Big Ten title in 37 years.

Richter also hired Dick Bennett and Bo Ryan, both of whom took the basketball team to the final four.

Big Mike said...

Salazar has the edge and if Illeana comes out supporting her she will most likely win.

Ain’t no “if” about it; Illeana was at Salazar’s victory party and shared the stage with her.

Big the figures I’ve seen show Shalala with three quarters of a million dollars in her campaign treasury, Salazar with s third that, I am sending the Cuban-American a check.

Big Mike said...

BUT the figures ...

Mark Daniels said...

Meh. Why would anyone think that a 77-year-old is too old to enter politics for the first time...or that someone who's 25 is too young?

CWJ said...

steve uhr,

Yes I know all that. So hired an AD who in turn hired Barry. So not exactly nothing, but not remotely close to hands-on either. So yeah, put her in the hall of fame.

cubanbob said...

Big Mike, Salazar will raise the money. The district is still heavily Hispanic although not as conservative as the district Illeana first ran in.
Democrats are big into taxes as long as other people are paying them. When it hits them personally, they move to Florida. Or Texas or other states without state income taxes. Rick Scott has been a very good governor and will probably beat Bill Nelson. I doubt there will be a blue wave in Florida this year. I have a suspicion the Democrats will have huge turnouts everywhere they were going to win anyway but the Republicans on balance will win what they need to win to keep both houses of Congress and most of the state governorships and state legislatures they already have.

wwww said...

Ds have not won Gov in Florida, for what, 20 years?

This time they're running Migos "Walk it Talk it" young guy. He might juice African American and youth turn out on a non-Presidential year. That might effect the Senate race or House races.

Similar to Beto in TX. Beto is not likely to win TX. But his race might boost turnout to the point it flips some House seats.

narciso said...

She's well worth it, she's a rare person of integrity in journalism down there, whereas rich Sanchez just keeps popping up like a bad penny.

Sam L. said...

Of COURSE they didn't consider her age. That would be AGE-IST!!!111111!!!!

wwww said...

I have no idea what will happen in Florida this November.

One pollster thinks FL is polling low-ish for Ds while Arizona is polling too high. Gilum's victory was not caught on the polls going in, but it's hard to poll for primaries.

On the other hand, the special election polling this year has been really really on point. What this all means, I do not know.

Here's Marc Caputo on twitter:
Privately, some Dems despair Gillum will lose to DeSantis. But some Republicans say it’s advantage Gillum. Really, none of us knows. Still, these concerns, relayed by a top Republican vet of Florida & national races, are instructive

Caputo said his Republican source said Gilum would be President within 12 years. That seems unlikely, but who knows? Lots of stuff is happening in the last 2 years I would not have predicted.

It'll be interesting to see if the pollsters can accurately poll Florida for this November. Exciting times!




wwww said...


Yes, probably.

But the polls did miss Gilum winning. A bunch of people voted they were not expecting to vote.

I don't know what will happen. It's why it's interesting to watch.

wwww said...



Larry Sabato last night, 1 hour before Gilum won:

As has been obvious all along, Gwen Graham is very likely the D FL GOV nominee. As her successful race is analyzed, don't omit wise daily advice she received from her Dad, ex-Gov/Sen Bob Graham. No living person knows more about FL politics, or has been more successful. #FLVotes

Michael K said...

Soros and Steyer spent big in the FL Governor race. Hence the D winner.

Will they be able to do that in November ?

He is the Socialist candidate. Statewide ?

wwww said...



I love baseball.

Moneyball is one of my favourite movies. Genuine upsets are fascinating to me.


I cannot guess many of the Florida races. We'll see what happens in November. Good times!

wwww said...


UVA director of the Center for Politics. publishes Crystal Ball.

wikipedia:
"Sabato's Crystal Ball is run by the University of Virginia Center for Politics in Charlottesville. The site contains analysis of an array of political races in the United States, including presidential elections, Senate, House, and gubernatorial contests.

Predictions accuracy until 2016
Prior to the 2002 midterm elections, where the Republican Party saw gains in both branches of Congress, Sabato's Crystal Ball website accurately predicted the outcome in 433 of the 435 contests for the House of Representatives and 32 of 34 Senate races.[8]

In 2004, which saw Republicans retain the White House and gain seats in the House and Senate, Crystal Ball correctly predicted the outcome of 525 of the 530 political races (99% accuracy), missing only one House race, one Senate race, one governor's race and two states in the Electoral College.[9]

In August 2006, Crystal Ball predicted that the Democrats would gain 29 seats in the House of Representatives and 6 seats in the Senate, providing them with a majority in both chambers. Sabato's predictions proved correct: each of his 33 Senate predictions were accurate, and in the House, Democrats gained 29 seats on election night, the precise total predicted by the Crystal Ball (Democrats went on to pick up a 30th seat in the December 12, 2006 run-off in Texas' 23rd district).[10]

In 2006 Sabato was named the most accurate source of election predictions by MSNBC, CNBC, and Pew's Project for Excellence in Journalism. In 2006, he was the only national analyst who correctly predicted the exact Democratic gains in Senate and House contests.[10]

In July 2008, Crystal Ball correctly projected that Barack Obama would win the presidency in a near-landslide.[11] Sabato predicted a 364–174 margin in the Electoral College, as well as the popular vote percentages.[12] The prediction was merely one point off the mark, with the actual result on November 4, 2008 being Obama 365 and McCain 173. (It did not predict an Obama win in Nebraska's 2nd congressional district, as he did not make separate predictions for individual congressional districts in states that split their electoral votes on such factors (he started making separate predictions for such districts in 2012, probably because of this occurrence)). Crystal Ball also accurately predicted 34 of all 35 Senate races, and 11 gubernatorial races correctly.[13]

In November 2010, Crystal Ball projected that Republicans would pick up 55 seats in the House of Representatives.[14] The Republicans picked up 63 House seats. It predicted a pickup of 8 seats in the Senate for Republicans.[15] The Republicans picked up 6 Senate seats.[16]

In 2012, Crystal Ball projected that Obama would win the presidency with 290 electoral votes to 248 for Romney; there would be no change in partisan makeup of the Senate, with Democrats at 53 and Republicans at 47; and Democrats would pick up 3 seats in the House of Representatives, for a result of 239 Republicans and 196 Democrats.[17] The projection was similar to the actual results, but Crystal Ball under-estimated Obama's number of electoral votes (332) and under-estimated Democratic victories in both the Senate (Democrats picked up two seats) and in the House (Democrats picked up eight seats).

Crystal Ball made widespread incorrect predictions in 2016, wrongly predicting the outcome of the presidential race, as well as the outcomes of the House and Senate races. The night before voting took place, Sabato appeared on MSBNC and stated that Hillary Clinton would win 322 and Trump would win 216 electoral college votes; in fact, Trump won 306 and Clinton won 232. Sabato and his staff summarized the results in an article entitled "Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa."[18]

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Guildofcannonballs said...

I've been thinki g of Hardin all day. A way to be cool would be tie in the lyrics "Baby, why don't you just meet me in the middle, I'm losing my mind just a little, so why can't you just meet me in the middle" to our boy/my man Hardi n. Irony was meant for me, not you olds.

Blogger rhhardin said...
Old people is okay but I don't see why they're not smarter at that age.

Think of what/how/why a younger Hardin, with all that Brainhorse IQ talent, could have done, if things were so slightly (ever) different easily lazily we could declaim from upon high the resounding clarity. Alas.

William said...

I can understand staying on the Supreme Court. The clerks do most of the work, and the chairs are nice and comfy. As long as your snores aren't too loud, no one makes a fuss when you take your nap during opening arguments. But running for Congress is a different matter. You have to appear alert and energetic and engaged with your constituents. Many here will claim that Congress is one of the best publicly funded old age homes in America. That's true enough for incumbents like Conyers and Thurmond, but she's running. She's not actually in Congress. My heart goes out to that poor old lady. If she wins, I hope they give her Conyers old office. It's got a sleeping alcove and a changing station.

The Crack Emcee said...

Sarah Hoyt, like everyone else over at Instapundit, would be reluctant to admit how much she agrees with me - age isn't the Dem's problem:

"Just a reminder: if you hear dog whistles, you’re the dog.  OTOH if you’re receiving transmission from Mars in your dental fillings, you’re a democrat."

Because the Democrats, it's a cult - and it's a cult no one is helping, no one wantsa to help, and no one will help. Not because there's no victims, but because they're having too much fun at their expense to address them as fellow citizens in need.

The Crack Emcee said...

When the leader is bragging his wife does yoga and whatnot - no matter what science says - and the followers are asking:

"WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD?"

That's when, I think, things start to get,...questionable.

The Crack Emcee said...

You know what? I'm wrong and everyone else is right - fraud in this country is perfectly under control - especially in the health field:

"THE PROBLEM WITH MEDICAL PRICING IS THAT IT’S ENTIRELY PHONY: A heart attack left him with a $109,000 bill. His story aired, and now he owes $782."

Carry on, you Sharp Shooters, you,...

Bob Loblaw said...

Shalala spent two years (2015-17) as president of the Clinton Foundation.

That's more of a qualification for an orange jumpsuit than Congress.

DEEBEE said...

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AndyN said...

Some names heard discussed for a 2022 presidential run...

Hillary Clinton - 70
Joe Biden - 75
Elizabeth Warren - 69
Bernie Sanders - 76

But yeah, a lifelong party insider running for one of 535 House seats, who nobody outside of her home district will ever hear about whether or not she wins, is "The Face of the Democratic party's old-age problem."

roesch/voltaire said...

As far as I can tell it doesn’t require much energy to be a politician beyond riding around in a golf cart and Shalala who jumped around in a Badger outfit can surely do that.

Bob Loblaw said...

Related:

Diane Feinstein: I'll Never Forget The Name "Senator Donald McCain"