Here's the link to the Ted Cruz tweet with the video.
Somehow, I am incapable of getting embed code that includes the video. Maybe it's me, but I checked the "include media" box. Is Twitter making it harder to share or is it me?
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1 – 200 of 212 Newer› Newest»Tastefully and effectively flattens "Beto."
Has any one ever seen Beto, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in the same place, and at the same time?
Gee, what are the odds that Twitter is burying anything positive about Republicans/Conservatives?
Naw, they would NEVER do that.
*SNORT*
To our hostess.....I saw a video of Beto talking a softball question from one of his staffers. It seemed to work just fine.
Know your audience.
I’m immune to this stuff but it probably helps Cruz in his re-election bid. Beta is not a strong candidate in Texas. He’s be great in New England.
Outta curiosity, how do you get "Beto" out of Robert O'Rourke?
Is it Robert => Roberto => Berto => Beto?
Yes, it doesn't matter, but it still vexes me.
IMHO, the most effective part of the ad was the applause of Beto's audience and connecting it to the leftist elite in Hollywood.
The veteran' talk was heart tugging, but we are becoming immune to emotional manipulation.
Beto should be investigated for a campaign finance violation after giving an unreported donation to the Cruz campaign.
amusing to see the squealing of the BetoBots in the comments to Cruz's video. They are hopping mad at the very idea that supporting the flag is a popular position.
Good ad.
He is a voice for people without a voice.
For babies without a voice to protest #Judgment, barefoot and disarmed, and summarily aborted without possibility of appeal. #BLM
The ad was good, the abridgment of O'Rourke's answer was fair, and I had no issue with the taste level. I especially like the slogan they're using for Cruz: Tough as Texas.
It is more tasteful than having Paul Ryan throwing an old lady off a cliff.
So anything better than that is okay by me.
Effective? Not at reaching Democrats. But it may swing a few points of independents.
But Cruz really needs a nose job. He looks deformed.
Beto should move to New York and run against crooked Hightax Andrew Cuomo.
Did twitter veto the ad? It doesn’t show up for me.
Tastefulness, about normal for political ads. Effectiveness, 7 out of 10. No question that Beto said those things, and it can't be a popular position for Texans. Austin-- I mean Shed Legacy-- maybe, but not Laredo.
That was a high level manipulative political spot aimed at the Deplorables #1 weakness, which is their Scots-Irish tradition that values and honors courage shown in war. It is a visceral thing, not a cerebral thing. The Ivy League intellects may declare themselves the winner of the free speech debate at Oxford Union, but when the Funeral procession for Chris Kyle ( the American Sniper) happens, that draws hundreds of thousands of fellow Texans out to stand up in his honor. And it draws them out to vote just as powerfully.
So Cruz is using of a giant empathy/feelings issue. These are so often noted by the Professor to be stronger motives than mere rational argument. And it goes deeper than all the others combined. If you don't believe me, ask Clint Eastwood how it works.
I am fond of Beto.
At least, I am quite fond of a number of family and friends who are fond of Beto.
They like him a lot, and don't seem to mind that he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the election, so they won't be too hurt or angry when Cruz wins by a landslide. No worry about heated conversations over family dinners.
They just seem to want to live the fantasy of a handsome, well-spoken politician mouthing the sort of political bromides that are focus-tested among fashionable progressive circles. I can at least let them have that, considering I'm getting a conservative and competent Senator for another six years.
So when they talk excitedly of Beto, I nod along, and suggest the latest Beto puff piece or the upcoming Beto documentary (BETO VS. CRUZ: THE FIGHT FOR 2018 -- playing in November at the Austin Film Society)
Family and Friends are more important than politics.
All I saw were the hate Trump comments.
Maybe Beto will make an issue of the fact that Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of President Kennedy.
"To our hostess.....I saw a video of Beto talking a softball question from one of his staffers. It seemed to work just fine."
I had no trouble watching the video at Twitter. I just couldn't get embed code that included the video.
Or... .are you saying you watched the first part of the ad for Ted Cruz?
Yes... I know that works when you go there, but I wanted to embed it.
It doesn't taste like chicken, unlike a chicken biscuit from CFA.
Cruz' best ad was the one where he fries bacon by wrapping it on an AR-15 barrel.
Cruz, unfortunately, doesn't look like the epitome of a Texan politician.
Rick Perry had the right look.
A beta-male should be called Beto.
I thought the original Beto ad was a contrivance.
Notice how he's rolling-up his sleeves as the question is being asked, as if to invoke the RFK personae.
If you're in the parts of Texas where job interviews regularly include the phrase, "Now we're Christians here", then this ad will go over very well (They think, because they say something's disrespectful, that makes it so, just as Liberals say their charges against Trump are "not debatable" and "silence is not an option"). They're just ideologues arguing. No amount of re-telling them it's a protest against police violence, and not the anthem, will make them deal honestly with others - just as their Christianity doesn't. They just want their way, and their way is to attack blacks, for any reason - including those they make up.
If you're not in those parts of Texas, it just looks like pandering to people who could give a damn if they're wrong or not, as usual.
For a Cruz Ad, there was too much Beto in it. If you clicked off half-way through, what would the message be? The message from the Veteran should be first.
Good ad. Got right to the point.
As for as Cruz's Twitter account, someone must have sent up the batsignal or else there are an awful lot of fanatics and trolls and hired hands who keep it open full time because they responded almost immediately and in bulk.
A lot of money is being spent by the Democrats and their supporters for internet work. There's quite a story there for anyone who can penetrate their systems.
Did not play, but I DuckDucked it and found it.
I did not like it:
1. Too obviously manipulative.
2. I don't want to tie the flag and the NFL issue to our veterans and make this a veteran thing. This is a great country for everyone who was lucky enough to be born here. Everyone. We should all stand for the flag which represents this great country. We all have America Privilege. If you hate this country, at least stand quietly while real Americans show their appreciation.
If you're in the parts of Texas where job interviews regularly include the phrase, "Now we're Christians here"...
Which specific parts of Texas would those be?
https://twc.texas.gov/jobseekers/employee-rights-laws
I'm trying to figure out if Cruz's campaign intentionally set up the video to start muted.
It's on his twitter feed at least 5 times, so someone thinks it's effective.
"If you're in the parts of Texas where job interviews regularly include the phrase, "Now we're Christians here", then this ad will go over very well ... No amount of re-telling them it's a protest against police violence, and not the anthem, will make them deal honestly with others - just as their Christianity doesn't. They just want their way, and their way is to attack blacks, for any reason - including those they make up."
Please give Crack the attention he desperately needs. If he keeps beating that dead horse, his arm will fall off.
Ann you are being shadow banned at Twitter because some of your commenters are conservative in their opinions.
What would happen if the ad showed a picture of Willie Horton, I mean Colin K?
Cruz wisely left that out.
Likewise if they'd muted the audience cheering Beto, thought that might have gotten Cruz more free publicity, too, and the critics would have looked very silly.
Twitter, along with Facebook and Google, seems to have appointed themselves The Ministry of Truth. They'll gladly suppress the wrongthink from conservatives either outright or surreptitiously. One might assume that at some point prominent conservatives would get the hint and move off of Twitter and regroup upon one of the many alternatives, but sadly I don't think many have yet.
The Stars and Stripes banner and the poem about Ft McHenry's defenders waving it while proudly defeating the British Navy has nothing to do with Christianity. It is about fighting your enemies, not loving them. Which may be why oppressed young black men don't like acknowleging its claims. It asserts a man's privilege/right to defend what is his from armed gangs out to steal it and kill anyone who stands up to them.
Hillarywoodlanders and east coast elite snobs like Beto, hopefully Texans will wake up and smell the crap cake.
When you stage a protest, and the people observing the protest don't know what you're protesting, it's not the fault of the observers. Either you don't have a clear message, or you picked the wrong venue. I think Cruz's ad is fine. His message is clear, he doesn't resort to name-calling, and he hasn't distorted Beto's message or taken it out of context. I'm not personally a Cruz fan, but I think he has the pulse of Texas.
Taste is 7-10. The veteran in the commercial was obviously okay with the message. It's too pandering for my taste but not offensively so. Effectiveness is 5-10. No votes will change, either way.
Did we decide Crack was Ritmo in disguise or not? He's a little too much in the "Let's see how much I can disgust people with black power demands and being a bigot" mode to be real.
Beto says that America was never that great anyway. You'll love the jalapeno version.
Go, Beto!!!!!
Ted Cruz is scum
Vicki from Pasadena
I was just wondering when the Senate will be voting on whether or not standing for the national anthem is mandatory. If they're not, then why does anybody care what Senatorial candidates think about it?
"Did we decide Crack was Ritmo in disguise or not."
I threw out the possibility the other day because he is so adamantly over the top and because I have never seen them on a thread together. In addition, they both seem to crave attention in the most negative manner.
Either DBQ or mockturtle thought Crack was too rational to be Ritmo, but the more we hear from Crack the less rational he seems.
Inga scoffed at the idea, but that's Inga. I wonder if he is one of her kids living in her basement.
Both Beto's statement and the ad were just more bla, bla, bla. Both were appeals to emotions devoid of the nuance or context of the arguments. I don't like the taking a knee bullshit becuase it's based on a lie, does nothing constructive, and unnecessarily disrespects the flag and pisses off people.
But, there could be good reasons to protest the flag or the anthem, but this is not one of those reasons and an NFL game is a dumb counterproductive place to do it.
So they are both right or wrong.
As I said last week, the original video marked the exact moment when Beto admitted that he had no reasonable chance of winning the election. No Democrat with decent campaign management (And Beto's has been very, very good indeed -- How do you think he got all those out-of state $$$ and flattering profiles?) would touch that question in Texas if they thought they had a fighting chance.
Ted's ad didn't need to be good, it didn't even need to be not bad. It didn't even need to be. Beto sunk himself last week.
Last time I was there, I mostly worked around Austin and Lubbock, so I got the best of both worlds: From getting cornered by a group of Democrat harpies screaming "What about my reproductive rights?!?" to watching Republicans laugh as they rip off illegals so confidently, they even explained to them how they're doing it, while on the job.
If this isn't what your life's like, you don't know what you're missing.
I can think of lots of people and their protests that would make Beto retract every word he spoke there. Would he make that argument for protests calling for Obama's impeachment, Hillary's arrest, or an anti-abortion protest every game? He does not really believe what he said, but that is why we have a Fen's Law.
Why question the ad's 'taste'? Political ads are never in good taste as their only raison d'etre is to manipulate, which is never in good taste.
Is the idea to evaluate the appropriateness of the exploitation? Who's being exploited here? I suspect it's anyone who thinks the question posed to Beto was from a real person and not a shill.
Beta Beto needs to start out as dog catcher or something. Perhaps heading up poop control in San Fran.
It would be a lot harder for me to think of a situation where the veteran would reverse himself.
Rabel said...A lot of money is being spent by the Democrats and their supporters for internet work. There's quite a story there for anyone who can penetrate their systems.
Maybe we should ask Chuck? Or Igna? You know; someone on the inside has already penetrated
About the only area where leftists are consistent with free speech is their shared disrespect for the American flag.
All other speech that goes against the leftwing narrative, must be squashed.
I didn't taste anything, and I licked my entire screen during it. Ted looks delicious. Kinda like a dumpling.
I'd prefer somebody pointing out what they are really doing when they refuse to stand, rather than playing their game and making it a jingoistic "rah rah" thing. So no, I did not like the ad.
The protesters are stealing someone else's thing. They're saying you have this thing and we're stealing it. What if we steal Beto's thing? Would he think that's okay?
I think the thing we should steal is his voice when he tries to speak to an audience- anywhere. He's okay with that, right?
Francisco D said...
"Did we decide Crack was Ritmo in disguise or not."
"I threw out the possibility the other day because...they both seem to crave attention in the most negative manner."
White people call the cops on anybody but their son who's about to commit a mass shooting.
I just like that the democrats are finally being honest about how they hate this country.
It's fun to trash "white people". Thanks Obama.
Oh - and the ad isn't in "good taste" because it IS deliberately misleading. I'm starting to think I have to tell Republicans the same things I tell Democrats, like how one party has to be BETTER than the other in order to win votes. If they're both filled with crackpots, cultists, and liars, who needs them?
I'm not going to think this protest is about the anthem just because a bunch of liars insist it is - I'm staying in reality no matter how they frame it - including finding a guy with no legs to tell a lie on blacks without any either.
IMHO, the most effective part of the ad was the applause of Beto's audience and connecting it to the leftist elite in Hollywood.
I have to agree with Francisco D. The people who applauded Beto need an attitude adjustment. I also agree with Achilles.
If it's not about the anthem, then do something constructive instead, or do it during a mayoral speech or police academy ceremony. Nope it's only done during the anthem. Trump ask them for constructive input and they provided none, becuase it's not about fixing anything. It's all about the special respect you get from certain people for posing during the anthem. That the "thing", the prize, the proof of your authenticity, your courage, your edginess. How lame. All they need to add now is to say "hold my beer and watch this."
I don't see any video. Just a bunch of Twitter twits demanding that Cruz criticize Trump for putting the flag up to full staff while "the nation mourns" McCain. Nevermind that they are mostly Democrats who would never, ever have voted for McCain, and probably considered him "worse than Hitler" only ten years ago. So fuck them.
Perfect response from Kristin to Ted Cruz
Kristin
Kristin
@dcg2016
Replying to
@tedcruz
What about Trump restoring the WH flag to full-staff while our nation mourns and honors Senator McCain? Where is your outrage?
10:19 AM · Aug 27, 2018
“Go, Beto!!!!!
Ted Cruz is scum
Vicki from Pasadena.”
Even his daughter can’t stand to be near him.
Clyde, not only that, but about half the NeverTrump RINOs whining about Trump hurting McCains feelings probably voted for Obama in 2008.
Nice timing on the posts there, Clyde and Inga.
"White people call the cops on anybody but their son who's about to commit a mass shooting."
I know that this is asking the impossible, but ...
Crack,
Think for a second. What does your response have to do with my post?
I am suggesting that you are a White Boy, perhaps living in Frau Inga's basement.
I am calling you out as a little White mama's boy pretending to be what he thinks is an angry Black man - a caricature.
Lots of flag controversies today.
POTUS under pressure from the American Legion to lower the flag.
"Even his daughter can’t stand to be near him."
Except for Crack/Ritmo living in your basement, can any of your kids stand to be around you, Inga?
White people call the cops on anybody but their son who's about to commit a mass shooting.
Has anyone seen Crack and trumpit at the same tome ?
looks like pressure from the American Legion worked.
Flag atop White House lowered again to half-staff.
Francisco D said...
"Crack,
Think for a second. What does your response have to do with my post?"
It's called humor. That shit kills with a black crowd.
McCain made it quite clear he didn't want Trump involved in his funeral. Trump is respecting his wishes.
Inga...Allie Oop said...
Perfect response from Kristin to Ted Cruz
Kristin
Kristin
@dcg2016
Replying to
@tedcruz
What about Trump restoring the WH flag to full-staff while our nation mourns and honors Senator McCain? Where is your outrage?
Only half staff for two days? OUTRAGE!!!!!11!!1!eleventy!1!
You called McCain Hitler, murderer/war criminal in 2008 so nobody gives a shit what you think.
It didn't matter how many days the flag was kept at half staff you were going to bitch anyways.
Funny how dead republicans get such nice words from the left.
You are disgusting people.
Michael K said...
"Has anyone seen Crack and trumpit at the same tome ?"
I'm waiting for someone to demand to see my birth certificate - or to, at least, explain how this got written all the way back in 1999 if I'm a white guy and you're not a bunch of conspiracy-minded crackpots who let your insanely sheltered assumptions rule your racist lives?
OK, I'm not - but I'm ready - just in case.
Veterans die every day.
This "outrage" is a joke.
A pathetic joke.
Keep kneeling for the anthem and pretending you treated McCain decently while he was alive.
We see right through you.
Trump has free will. He's the POTUS.
He can run that flag up and down the White House flagpole how ever many times he wishes. He raised the flag when all of the flags were lowered at the Washington Monument. Maybe he'll raise it again before the burial. Who knows? No one can stop him.
But he does not get to tell the American Legion what to think about his behaviour.
The flag WAS at half over the entire weekend and some of the flags are still half staff. The headline deceives.
but but but controversy! from a pack of hypocrites who compared MCCain to Hitler during the 2008 campaign.
I'm not sure Crack's comment had anything to do with the post before it, but I'll give him it was funny.
I don't think it unfairly characterizes Beto's position so this ad won't really come off as unfair. However, I don't know how effective this ad will be. My sense is the overwhelming majority of folks who are likely to vote for Beto, either support NFL players taking a knee during the anthem or don't care. Those that do care are already going to vote for Cruz. Though I do suppose there are some who this ad could convince not to vote for Beto and either abstain or vote for a third party candidate. After all, back before the kneeling thing became conflated with Trump, even justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, said she found it dumb and disrespectful.
oooo outrage!. The lame bored useless white-left have yet another outrage to outrage about.
It spreads like hivemind wildfire. Tonight on Maddow!
US Code on displaying the flag, Title 4, Chapter 1, SS7, M
“and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress”
Trump followed protocol? The left bitches.
If Trump would've flown it half-staff, the left would bitch and scream hypocrisy.
Trump now respects the wishes of the American Legion? The left bitches.
Seems all you assholes do is bitch.
About the stupidest, GD things, too.
I cannot imagine going through life screaming about the stupidest, effing things every, effing day. But that's what you do.
You deserve your misery. In spades.
Now we have a repeat of the Diana flag crap, but all the hysteria is manufactured.
Apparently, Beto ducked out of their first planned debate this Sunday. Sounds like he thought it was too much of a debate rather than a relaxed conversation around the fire.
Tasteful, completely, Effective, unlikely.
-sw
Yes... I know that works when you go there, but I wanted to embed it.
Take this with a grain of salt......but it seems that I have seen other videos from Twitter, and you must accept their terms of abuse before you can view the video. So, there may be additional steps to embed a Twitter video.
Again, find a second opinion because I'm not a Twatter, and I have never accepted their terms.
Ted Cruz did not stand for his wife.
This is likely a GOTV ad, not one aimed at the uncommitted, who probably won't vote anyway.
Beto ducked out of their first planned debate this Sunday
He's in mourning for McCain.
wwww said...
Trump has free will. He's the POTUS.
He can run that flag up and down the White House flagpole how ever many times he wishes. He raised the flag when all of the flags were lowered at the Washington Monument. Maybe he'll raise it again before the burial. Who knows? No one can stop him.
But he does not get to tell the American Legion what to think about his behaviour.
Decent people just roll their eyes.
The flag was at half staff for 2 days. You can pretend you are on the same side as the american legion if you want.
They hate you as much as you hate them.
You people are not serious and you are not here in good faith.
Have fun running on open borders and war with Russia.
Between now and the election some cop is almost certainly going to get crucified and become the focus of the leftist hate mob.
Anything to not talk about the average growth rate during the Trump administration and the first real wage increases for the middle class in decades.
"Taking a knee" is supposed to be a protest. Protests are intended to get wrongs righted. Usually that means changing minds and hearts. The civil rights protests in the 1950's and 1960's showed how it's done. Although the enemies of civil rights took protesters' lives, the protesters won because they changed the minds and hearts of a lot of people, both in and out of the South. It ought to be pretty obvious by now that taking a knee during the playing of the National Anthem is NOT changing minds and hearts in the direction the protesters presumably want. Quite the contrary. When one incumbent Senator uses his opponent's support for take-a-knee in a campaign ad, you know take-a-knee is having a negative effect. So this is no longer a protest. It's just a thumb in the eye of American patriotism. I don't think that's what most of the players (who are among the most fortunate people in our country) really want. They should stop.
Rigelsen said...
Apparently, Beto ducked out of their first planned debate this Sunday. Sounds like he thought it was too much of a debate rather than a relaxed conversation around the fire.
Beto is pushing open borders.
His ceiling is 40%.
"US Code on displaying the flag, Title 4, Chapter 1, SS7, M"
Thanks for looking that up Jim.
I suspected that this was manufactured news, as usual.
In this corner, we have Latino Canadian Rafi Cruz attempting to pass as white versus Texan Bobbie O'Rourke attempting to pass off his black Irish swarthyness as Mexican.
To layer every social issue under that flag is lame.
The anthem is about saying a little "thank you" to our military, our vets, and those who died so we can have a good time at a game.
You're pissed about this or that? take it outside.
golly - Trump and McCain despised each other. wow that's new.
All sorts of people despise McCain because the man knew who to burn the bridge at both ends.
While we are talking about reversing decisions Twitter just reversed it's decision that calling for the death of children is OK.
After days of legitimate and well founded outrage by real decent people Twitter finally admitted it was wrong for Inga and Howard's friends to wish death on someone's children even though they was an evil spokeswoman for the NRA.
It took over a day because leftists think wishing death on the children of political enemies is OK.
Meanwhile raising the flag from half mast after it was there for two days? OUTRAGE!
You are on a disgusting team wwww.
The Crack Emcee said ... "It's called humor. That shit kills with a black crowd."
Thanks Crack. I now more fully appreciate the performance.
As an aside, do you think Richard Pryor would be allowed to sell his records today?
My (Black) ex-wife, her mostly Black female friends and I listened to his records more than 40 years ago. The weed may have helped, but he certainly killed the audience.
The left is alienating the half-breeds: African-American, Hispanic-American, White-American, Jew-American, etc. Throw off your shackles. Look beyond your diversity. Welcome to America.
4-dub:
looks like pressure from the American Legion worked.
Flag atop White House lowered again to half-staff.
...
Trump has free will. He's the POTUS.
He can run that flag up and down the White House flagpole how ever many times he wishes. He raised the flag when all of the flags were lowered at the Washington Monument. Maybe he'll raise it again before the burial. Who knows? No one can stop him.
But he does not get to tell the American Legion what to think about his behaviour.
So you're saying that Trump respects the opinion of the veterans of the American Legion and defers to their desires?
When was it that he tried to tell the American Legion what to think? Please tell us what, exactly, it is that "no one can stop him" AuthoritarianTrumpHitler has done here that has your panties in a wad?
Do you even know?
Geez, I know the lefties don't send their best here*, but c'mon 4-dub, the last thing we need here is an Inga knock-off.
*Or sadly, maybe they do.
But he does not get to tell the American Legion what to think about his behaviour.
Do you think you and the American Legion have anything in common ?
Hey achillies, did you turn cunt when the wife put your balls in a lock-box or are you trippin on the kgb paranoiac pipe dream? Inga thinks you're about to go postal, but I don't agree because you are all about commenting like you were a premature ejaculation suicide bomber who does no damage.
Francisco D said...
"Do you think Richard Pryor would be allowed to sell his records today?"
Sure, but they wouldn't go over as well. We've evolved from him. I was with a bunch of white guys who were railing against "niggers" playing basketball but they loved them some Richard Pryor, screaming "Now he tells the truth!"
It was one of the most amazing racial moments I'd ever had in my life.
I'm not a Twatter,
Althouse is.
"That Person Of Color Is Crazy".
I think the last great black comic was Patrice O'Neal, who used to show up as a favorite on FOX News back in the day. Click on that link and hear his talk on BLM and #MeToo - back in 2011.
He was simply ahead of his time.
People don't realize all the good that these kneeling athletes have accomplished simply by kneeling. Most police officers think of those kneeling athletes when interacting with the black community. The kneeling has radically altered their behavior. They've become so much nicer. For their part the black community has responded to this change in attitude by becoming markedly more cordial in their interactions with the police. None of this would have happened had not the athletes begun kneeling.
As a Vet it sure works for me. However, if they want to do this on their own time, I could care less. I do think the whole "taking a Knee" thing is based on lies and propaganda fed by demigogues. I think it makes the player look hateful.
"When was it that he tried to tell the American Legion what to think?"
I am simply stating a fact. He makes a choice on how he wants to present himself. He doesn't get to tell anyone else what to think about his behaviour.
"Please tell us what, exactly, it is that "no one can stop him""
Why are you getting so upset at the obvious? He's the POTUS resident in the White House and gets to decide what to do with that flag.
"It was one of the most amazing racial moments I'd ever had in my life."
Try sitting around a group of stoned, very attractive Black women (all in our 20's) and listening to this (paraphrased) RP dialogue:
Guy: "I'm done. I'm going to find some new pussy"
Girlfriend: " If you had two inches more dick, you would find some new pussy here."
OT: CNN lying again. Mounting a BS narrative to cover the reality.
Simply pathetic.
4-dub: I am simply stating a fact. He makes a choice on how he wants to present himself. He doesn't get to tell anyone else what to think about his behaviour.
No shit, 4-dub. You've just made an utterly banal statement about everyone, everywhere. Is there a point in there somewhere?
I said: "Please tell us what, exactly, it is that 'no one can stop him' AuthoritarianTrumpHitler has done here that has your panties in a wad?"
Which you truncated to "Please tell us what, exactly, it is that "no one can stop him"", changing the clear meaning, and then giving a mildly insane response to the nonsensical question you manufactured via dishonest editing:
Why are you getting so upset at the obvious? He's the POTUS resident in the White House and gets to decide what to do with that flag.
Lol.
You seem to be indignant that Trump apparently respects the opinions of the veterans at the American Legion and deferred to their wishes. Why? Seems like a nice, respectful gesture, but you're clearly offended by it. Weird. You really need to calm down, 4-dub. It's not a big deal.
day ending in y, beto seems to smoking something perhaps the concoction, William hurt, took in altered states,
CNN wants Beto.
Vote Cruz.
Nobody bother with wwww.
It deletes all its comments.
Ruins a thread.
I believe nothing wwww types.
"My direct descendants served during the Revolutionary War"
Everybody cut wwww some slack. S/he's at least 300 years old.
The US does not honor its heroes, or its war dead.
The kids in its schools hear none of it.
They do not teach your myths or sing of your heroes.
They spend most of the time allotted to teaching that all these heroes were villains.
World War II for instance is about just two things - the Japanese internment and Hiroshima.
No military history. No heroes, no legends, no Torpedo Squadron 8, no last charge of Captain Ramsey, no USS Houston at the Sunda Strait, no "Mush" Morton and the Wahoo.
Can I stress just how disgusting it all is? I cannot put across the extremes of revulsion you should be feeling about your own educational system.
you know the story of the Colombian evangelical who reinvented herself as a bds riven jewish dsa member,
My wife's direct ancestors served in the US Revolutionary war. One was a Colonel.
Her aunt put together the docs to register with the DAR, but she never wanted to finish it.
Therefore our kids are also descendants.
There are a tremendous number of descendants of ex-revolutionaries.
It is not a rare distinction.
wwww said...
Michael,
Yeah, i've been socializing at the local Legion many a Friday night. My direct descendants served during the Revolutionary War. How about you?
My father enlisted during Vietnam.
Uncle graduated from West Point. His father from West Point. Cousin served in the navy.
I assume since you're throwing shade you served?
You are on team left.
You do not denounce CNN when they run bullshit stories about ow those terrorists in New Mexico "struggled" to train kids to commit school shootings.
You refuse to denounce the violent little shits like David Katz who was a member of the "resistance" after he goes and shoots 4 people.
You support the DNC after they were caught on video paying for violence at Trump rallies.
I can't count the number of times democrats have bashed veterans and the military in general.
Your party ran John Kerry as a presidential candidate. Ask those veterans at the American Legion what the definition of Blue Falcon is. There is a picture of John Kerry right there in the definition of Blue Falcon.
Ever since Al Gore sent his lawyers to "inspect" foreign deployed veterans ballots in Florida to get as many disqualified as possible we have known where you stand.
Screw you people. You are with awful people and you support them.
The democrat party is a criminal enterprise. The only thing the last 2 years have done is show just how disingenuous and morally debased the average democrat is.
You can't even honestly say what the democrat party wants to do to our country. You are empty.
wwww,
If the American Legion wanted to do some good, they would assemble in companies, go to their local high schools, take them over and expel all the teachers. It really, truly cannot hurt.
This is the level of the disaster and treason in your schools.
YES! It would be GREAT if trolls ignored my posts.
Nobody wants to read that crap. Nobody appreciate its when you start stupid substance-less fights. You think it's cute and interesting to the general reader. It's Not Interesting to Anybody but You, the Troll.
Back to the American Legion: We used to regularly go to karaoke at the local American Legion before kids came along. Good times.
buwaya said...
The US does not honor its heroes, or its war dead.
The kids in its schools hear none of it.
They do not teach your myths or sing of your heroes.
They spend most of the time allotted to teaching that all these heroes were villains.
World War II for instance is about just two things - the Japanese internment and Hiroshima.
No military history. No heroes, no legends, no Torpedo Squadron 8, no last charge of Captain Ramsey, no USS Houston at the Sunda Strait, no "Mush" Morton and the Wahoo.
They know all this. They know what they are doing. That is what the "Anthem protest" is all about.
Can I stress just how disgusting it all is? I cannot put across the extremes of revulsion you should be feeling about your own educational system.
You can. Everyone is waking up to how debased and awful the left truly is.
Trump has removed their mask.
Putting these people bare and open to the citizenry has been his greatest accomplishment.
Delete.
Look, wwww, if you don't want to defend your little passive-aggressive outbursts, you don't have to. Just ignore those who make fun of your emotion-filled, logic-free comments, like, for example, Victoria does.
(Although, honestly, it would probably be better for your mental faculties if you put some effort into explaining and justifying your arguments instead of just getting all snippy.)
By the way, was it the American Legion that taught you to spell like a Canadian?
DAR membership needs to be certified. Sure, it's common enough, and aside from the scholarship, it's just a fun fact.
Did you enlist in Vietnam? My father did. He was not drafted. He chose to serve. I wish that act was more common. I get a little annoyed when those who chose to enlist, during wartime, are not respected.
While I've always thought that Cruz looks and acts like the evil advisor to the King, much like Haman in the book of Esther, I believe he is a bright and competent Senator and would make a terrific Supreme Court justice, too.
"My direct descendants served during the Revolutionary War"
Which side?
"Yeah, i've been socializing at the local Legion many a Friday night. My direct descendants served during the Revolutionary War. How about you?"
I thought you were Canadian. Were they wearing a red coat?
I am a Spanish and Filipino citizen, and did my military service as per the laws of these countries, not the US. So did my ancestors.
" I get a little annoyed when those who chose to enlist, during wartime, are not respected. "
I suggest that you have a look at what they are teaching your kids, and then insist on rectifying that. What did you teach your kids?
I have to stop skipping half the comment thread. But I feel like I know y'all so well.
4-dub: Nobody appreciate its when you start stupid substance-less fights.
OK, I'll concede that your indignation at Trump's respecting the wishes of the veterans at the American Legion is substance-less and I should've just ignored it.
But I'm still fascinated by your claim that your direct descendants served in the Revolutionary War. Tell us more.
Buwaya's observations re: the teaching of American history are corroborated by the reports of our offspring, in what is generally regarded as a very good public school. We had to make sure to provide a great deal of supplementary material at home.
wwww claims: My direct descendants served during the Revolutionary War.
With all due respect, wwww, that's simply not possible. Your ancestors, perhaps. As did mine.
Complaining about how flags are flown in the case of one veteran, while ignoring the holocaust of the mind ongoing in your educational system is like freaking out about mishandling of matches in your kitchen while ignoring the volcano spewing lava across the street.
Don't worry about the little fire - because you are already completely consumed, nothing but slag and ashes.
A lot us us here are news junkies and don't appreciate just how far out of the political loop many, if not most, voters are.
Tens of thousands of potential voters in Texas have no idea about Beto's statements on the anthem protests. This ad and others will reach a few of them.
And since Texas is still a part of the Union and most of its voters are patriotic Americans, they will disapprove of Beto's position. As they should.
wwww said...
DAR membership needs to be certified. Sure, it's common enough, and aside from the scholarship, it's just a fun fact.
Did you enlist in Vietnam? My father did. He was not drafted. He chose to serve. I wish that act was more common. I get a little annoyed when those who chose to enlist, during wartime, are not respected.
We respect your father. He is one of us.
We don't respect you. You are a supporter of democrats.
Al Gore would have tried to disenfranchise your father if he could because he knows who veterans and active duty military members overwhelmingly vote for.
You supported Al Gore.
Stop pretending your father's honor and bravery extends to you or provides you cover for being a part of a seditious and criminal political party.
I prefer to borrow the wealth of people.
I have no idea why borrowing their military service is fashionable.
Achilles,
how old do you think I was when Gore ran for office?
N - 18
Nobody knows or cares how many fans choose not to stand during the National Anthem, and nobody is suggesting adverse consequences for fans who don't stand.
The players are paid employees, on the field, in a team uniform. They can be every much as obligated to stand for their employers and their customers as the police are.
There is a time and a place for political protest and on the field during the National Anthem is neither.
I agree that a reasonable accommodation is to allow players who do not wish to stand to stay off the field during the ceremony.
Democrats clap and chant when they find out McCain is dead.
Nobody thinks you people care about where the white house flag was.
4-dub:
Achilles,
how old do you think I was when Gore ran for office?
A gentleman usually refrains from answering questions pertaining to the age of a lady old enough to have descendants who served in the Revolutionary War.
wwww said...
Achilles,
how old do you think I was when Gore ran for office?
Oh. My. God. Pathetic.
You are part of a political party that has always hated veterans.
I note that you did not denounce the actions he took. There are endless examples of sedition you and your fellow democrats have participated in in the last 3 years.
Let's start with spying on political opponents. Denounce Obama's and Hillary's spying on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.
It would be a good start.
I am aware no one is interested in my personal history.
Michael suggested I had nothing to do with the American Legion. my answers were in response to his assertion I had NOTHING to do with the Legion.
I strongly suspect those baiting me have less to do with the Legion then me and mine.
Please assess the taste level and effectiveness of this ad for Ted Cruz.
This commercial tastes good like a Cruz ad should.
I'm not gonna proclaim xyz is my political party because blah blah blah. You believe what you wanna believe. You need to yell at someone. But you're fighting with an imaginary person. It might make you happy. So good for you. If you constantly project, you cannot see.
I don't think it's particularly healthy, but it's none of my nevermind. If you're having fun, well, I guess that's what you like to do.
This is the truth:
Years from now, there will be schools named after John McCain. Buildings will be named in his honor.
His grandchildren will talk about him and his service. They will be proud of him. He will not be forgotten.
I note that you did not denounce the actions he took.
Dude, I don't read most of your posts. You come off as kind of crazy.
Michael,
Yeah, i've been socializing at the local Legion many a Friday night. My direct descendants served during the Revolutionary War. How about you?
My father enlisted during Vietnam.
I guess this was directed at me. So, you have been "socializing" at the Legion ? Who invited you ?
I am a life member.
I would suggest it was your "ancestors" that served since you are boasting about people you didn't know.
I also have ancestors in the Revolutionary War and the Civil War.
My son might apply for a DAR scholarship for his kids but that is all I am interested.
Anyone who supported Kerry in 2004 has no claim on American patriotism. Kerry was a traitor by the old definition.
Section 3 defines treason and its punishment.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Kerry fits that definition. A party that nominated him is also guilty.
Michael,
How old do you think I was in 2004? yeah the DAR scholarship is nice.
WTH? I come from a military family. I married into a military family. The first guy who asked me on a date was a Navy Lt. My Dad said no I was too young.
What are you talking about who invited me?
John Kerry had a place in the long history of US Navy fuckups. Maybe there are Army fuckups, but the Navy ones stand out more. Incidentally, (I have a piece of paper that proves that I'm not one of them.) As for the Marines, fuckups do not prosper.
I am not going to protest my voting history to you. Chuck comes across as establishment Republican to me, and none of you believe his voting history. So what's the point?
You threw shade at my family and suggested we had nothing to do with the Legion.
I enjoy play acting as much as the next person.
Delete.
A gentleman usually refrains from answering questions pertaining to the age of a lady old enough to have descendants who served in the Revolutionary War.
LOL! Good one and deserved by me. ok, baby crying, so enough of this nonsense.
but you all gotta get out of the past. stuff that happened 2 decades ago is not current nor relevant to the new generations.
Josh Barro suggested people don't know they are middle aged because they lose track of time. In college and high school you live in 4 year chunks. Afterwards 7 or 9 or even 10 years can go by and it seems like nothing. But it's a long time. 20 years is a generation. Time is moving, even if you're not noticing.
"What are you talking about who invited me?"
You come in here and strut around attacking people and ask why we question your American Legion status ?
You are the one who asked me if I served.
Uncle graduated from West Point. His father from West Point. Cousin served in the navy.
I assume since you're throwing shade you served?
Yes, did you ?
I'm pretty tired of lefties pretending they support the military.
There are hundreds of thousands who risked as much as McCain, and suffered as much or worse. And they have no public monuments or high schools.
My aunts husband, a US reserve officer, perished in the death camp at Cabanatuan. Which American kids don't know about. Nor about the "hell ships". No high schools named for those men. Some like him, with a body to rebury, got a marble cross. The others got their name on a wall somewhere.
Bob Dole was crippled by enemy fire in 1945. Famous in his day, and hurt far worse than McCain. But no high schools.
Fame and monuments and high schools are a function of publicity based on political utility. The real heroes are forgotten, their stories are deliberately expunged, because they are inconvenient.
Michael,
You are the one who attacked me.
I was minding my own business, leaving a general post about the current topics of the day.
That's when you YOU YOU made it personal. You were highly insulting, and told me I had nothing to do with the American Legion. k
What's up with the gratuitous personal insult? Are you not aware that you did that? The only reason I said anything about my family was in response to you.
Of course I shouldn't be baited by people, but, look at the thread. You started it.
I would have ignored your personal insult, but for my father's service.
You know, you all complain a lot about Chuck and Inga messing up threads. You all need to examine your threads. A couple of you throw in these horrible personal insults. Or you tell someone else what they did. "YOu voted for xyz." The person has not actually done the thing you claim, and they get baited. So they respond to you. Then the thread degenerates into a side thing.
ANd you all blame Chuck, or Inga, or me, in the case of this thread.
ANd you're right -- I've been successfully baited. But it's incredibly annoying to be told i"m not part of a military family. Especially when my father enlisted during Vietnam. I well know that most of you did not enlist during that war. I am aware of how common deferments were. So I got baited.
Michael, the reason I'm writing this, is that I do not think you do it intentionally. Now there are a couple of people who bait intentionally. You all can guess who they are.
And it destroys threads.
Who wants to read this crap we've been writing? No one. So, it's fair enough people get annoyed with it and annoyed with me. But those who provoke and deliberately bait, and throw out gratuitous personal insults -- you play a part in this.
Ted is the man. I supported him with more $ than I have given cumulatively to all other politicians in my life when he ran for President in 2016. Couldn't get him to the nomination. Will admit that he might not have beaten Clinton, had he been the nominee. At the time Trump sewed up the nomination I thought that he would be beaten by Clinton, for sure.
The ad is good. It presents a fundamental issue in simple terms and drives up the contrast between Cruz and Beto O'Rourke. I like it. Go Ted Go!
A man with a classical education lives in thousand-year chunks.
No, the powers that be don't want anyone like that.
We have to get over the past? Yeah, what could the past do for us?
And the Constitution is like a hundred years old or something.
buwaya could not have known, when he was typing about educational malpractice above, how quickly his point would be proven.
I am my father's daughter. I vote like him.
I fully understand Meghan McCain.
I vote for those who hew most closely to the principles and policies that work.
I vote against those who hold principles and policies that demonstrably fail when implemented.
I guess I am an independent thinker.
You come in here and strut around attacking people and ask why we question your American Legion status ?
Michael,
SHOW ME WHERE I ATTACKED ANYONE. I WAS MAKING POSTS ABOUT THE TOPICS OF THE DAY. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO MADE IT PERSONAL WITH ME
LOOK AT THE THREAD.
YOU STARTED WITH THE PERSONAL INSULTS. I SAID NOTHING ABOUT MY FAMILY HISTORY. I SAID NOTHING ABOUT MY PERSONAL INTERACTIONS WITH THE AMERICAN LEGION.
I NOTED THAT THE LEGION HAD PUT OUT A STATEMENT TODAY. IT'S PART OF THE NEWS CYCLE. IT WAS IMPERSONAL
YOU MADE IT PERSONAL
WHY?
Delete.
Delete
You seem tired.
Maybe gather yourself after a nap.
LOOK AT THE THREAD.
YOU STARTED WITH THE PERSONAL INSULTS
Blogger wwww said...
Michael,
Yeah, i've been socializing at the local Legion many a Friday night. My direct descendants served during the Revolutionary War. How about you?
My father enlisted during Vietnam.
Uncle graduated from West Point. His father from West Point. Cousin served in the navy.
I assume since you're throwing shade you served?
Try to read your own posts, for crissakes !
You don't remember your own crap.
Dr. K:
Try to read your own posts, for crissakes !
You don't remember your own crap.
Eventually 4-dub will sober up and delete all her posts.
She's really tying one on tonight, though.
You seem tired.
Maybe gather yourself after a nap.
Try to read your own posts, for crissakes !
Nope. You are in error.
The Legion posted a comment on the news of the day. Perhaps you were not aware of it. My comment referred to that statement. I did not refer, personally, to anyone on this thread.
You made it personal. I had no interaction with you prior to your comment. I had not commented about anyone, or their history, or their service.
Generally, I do not personally insult people on the web. For two reasons.
First, It is an anonymous interaction. You have never met the person. You are not interacting with people in real life. It's not a personal interaction. It is not healthy to interact with the kind of people who personally insult others on the internet.
Two. It can hurt your soul. The act can contribute to sadness in the world.
Maybe a concern troll gambit will win the day.
Some daughters will not ignore the insults directed at the fathers who served.
Maybe a concern troll gambit will win the day.
I looked and looked but no father was insulted.
wwww said...
I am my father's daughter. I vote like him.
I fully understand Meghan McCain.
Sweet.
Another LLR!
And you can't hold wwww responsible for supporting spying on political opponents, or supporting their violent friends, or anything. Because McCain died and it isn't nice and they know how Meghan McCain feels and father's daughter...
You can support anything as long as you pretend you are a really nice person who has an unhurt soul and all your enemies contribute sadness to the world.
Nothing personal though. Disagreeing with me contributes sadness to the world.
Tell it to Meghan.
Some of us have heroes for fathers.
Some of us don’t try vainglorious by proxy.
Others don’t share stories that nobody cares about.
Some just delete.
Achilles,
no, I'm not going to personally insult you. Or swear at you. Or otherwise participate in evil acts. You may choose to call me all sorts of hideous personal insults. I will not return them back at you.
Humans have free will. Every act you make is a choice. Sins are acts that bring evil into the world. Personal insults are sins.
Others don’t share stories that nobody cares about.
If you have something better to do,
Why, in the world, are you here
Talking to me?
wwww said...
Tell it to Meghan.
Some of us have heroes for fathers.
Ah that's your game. You are grabbing the mantle of martyrdom and victimhood.
How shameless.
wwww said...
Some daughters will not ignore the insults directed at the fathers who served.
This is truly degenerate and morally detestable. Almost missed this post.
Please don't stop though. You make more republicans every time you act like this. They wont register as such or speak up vocally because they don't want to take the abuse. Just like none of us tell Inga or Howard to shut up.
We want you all to keep talking and acting like this.
Mocking =/= Talking
Words mean things.
Words do mean things.
I was told my family has nothing to do with the American Legion.
I was told we never socialized there on Friday nights.
People who lie.
People of the Lie.
wwww said...
Achilles,
no, I'm not going to personally insult you. Or swear at you. Or otherwise participate in evil acts. You may choose to call me all sorts of hideous personal insults. I will not return them back at you.
Humans have free will. Every act you make is a choice. Sins are acts that bring evil into the world. Personal insults are sins.
You can pretend you didn't accuse me of bringing evil into the world and that you didn't say it is a sin to disagree with you.
But nobody will buy it.
You can't even carry off passive aggressive very well.
Your shtick is garbage.
Riding forth using the accomplishments of others to support your own lack thereof is gross.
Just like Megan McCain who turned the name of her father into a job being the token conservative that bashes all the other conservatives on TV and letting the progressives destroy and alienate over half the country.
Gross.
What was the point of that squirrel, ah yes Cruz deftly rebutted the category error of o'rourke.
Substantive and civil disagreement is not a sin.
It is a sin to personally insult others. I will not insult you in return. You have free will. You must make your own choices.
My father enlisted during Vietnam. It is not true my family has "nothing to do with the American Legion." It is a Lie.
Truth is more powerful then lies. Love is more powerful then hate. This is not passive-aggressive behaviour. It's Christianity.
flag was at half staff per US Code 4 *7, Postion and Manner of Display. Trump just followed the law.
On the internet, everybody has a family member for every occasion.
And I am either 6’6” or 5’1” depending what is useful.
I also own a liger.
Birkel,
Yeah, I know. You told me you were a pregnant woman with high blood pressure.
What I said is the truth.
Of course, we are anonymous people on the internet. Why would I expect you to believe it? I do not.
I comment for myself. I like remembering stories about my family. I'm surprised when anyone responds to my posts. Mostly I'm talking to the post and to Althouse.
One thing I don't understand is why others would insult anonymous people on the internet. What's the point? It's interesting to talk about the subjects, but anonymously insulting random people you know nothing about? What's the point in that? If it's about unloading aggression, why not play a video game? Or exercise? If it's for entertainment, why not watch a movie?
Why is that fun for some of you? I don't get it.
And yet John Kerry has been feeding on a buffet in lies, in South East Asia, in central America and the middle east, the first he defamed all service personnel, the second the intelligence services the third a combination of the two
Today, for example.
I was thinking through the post by Althouse, and thinking about the news of the day. I had seen the message put out by the Legion.
Out of nowhere, Michael insults me, and says I have nothing to do with the Legion.
That's not true. My family socializes there. My husband have been there for Friday night Karaoke many nights.
So I respond and say the truth. Others personally insult me and my family. Some commenters claim my father is a traitor if he ever voted D. My father, who enlisted during the war.
They ask me about stuff that happened when I was a kid.
It's bizarre.
I also own a liger.
A Pinto. Although, I'm not sure how that is politically congruent NOW.
I would be more persuaded by the free speech bone fides of the Democratic party if they didn't try to hamper free speech in so many ways.
So no, I am fine with firing these players.
Thus Democracy dies: one side weaponizes a norm violation or two...or fifty and merrily laughs at those squares who keep following 'the rules' (see Marius and Sulla, Robespierre, etc.)...until the 'squares' start doing the same things back (see Pompey, The Directory)
Then they try to run the government without the norms. And that doesn't work.
I don't see how this ends well for anyone.
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