July 15, 2018

"You were born rich and privileged and you were handsome. I was born poor, ugly, Jewish and had to fight all my life to get somewhere."

"You got lotsa girls, no girl looked at me until I made it big in Hollywood. Yes, I did offer them acting jobs in exchange for sex, but so did and still does everyone. But I never, ever forced myself on a single woman."

Said Harvey Weinstein to Taki Theodoracopulos, quoted in "Harvey Weinstein: ‘I offered acting jobs in exchange for sex, but so does everyone – they still do’/The disgraced movie producer reached out to Taki with a ‘world exclusive’ about Rose McGowan and Asia Argento" (Spectator USA).

Taki adds:
Call me naïve or stupid, but in a funny way I believe him. I’ve seen Harvey in action during my annual Christmas party, the one I throw every year in New York with Michael Mailer. He hits on every young woman but in a naïve way. “Will you give me your address and I’ll make you a star,” is the theme of the pickup. Some say yes, some say no. His reaction was always the same. Smile and laugh and hit on the next one.
This got me thinking about something the Superman actor Henry Cavill said — and got in trouble for saying — in his recent GQ interview. He was asked what he's learned from the #MeToo movement:
Have the revelations made you reflect on your own behaviour with women? “I like to think that I’ve never been like that. I think any human being alive today, if someone casts too harsh a light on anything, you could be like, ‘Well, OK, yeah, when you say it like that, maybe.’ But it’s such a delicate and careful thing to say because there’s flirting which, for example, in a social environment is in context – and is acceptable. And that has been done to me as well, in return. Stuff has to change, absolutely,” he adds, addressing men’s behaviour. “It’s important to also retain the good things, which were a quality of the past, and get rid of the bad things. There’s something wonderful about a man chasing a woman. There’s a traditional approach to that, which is nice. I think a woman should be wooed and chased, but maybe I’m old-fashioned for thinking that. It’s very difficult to do that if there are certain rules in place. Because then it’s like: ‘Well, I don’t want to go up and talk to her, because I’m going to be called a rapist or something’. So you’re like, ‘Forget it, I’m going to call an ex-girlfriend instead, and then just go back to a relationship, which never really worked’. But it’s way safer than casting myself into the fires of hell, because I’m someone in the public eye, and if I go and flirt with someone, then who knows what’s going to happen? Now? Now you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No’. It’s like, ‘OK, cool’. But then there’s the, ‘Oh why’d you give up?’ And it’s like, ‘Well, because I didn’t want to go to jail?’"
By the way, Cavill is extremely good looking, and it's hard to understand what he's talking about, what elaborate conversational moves he's worried about figuring out. There's "hi." He wouldn't even have to dangle the "make you a star" prospect. Access to sex with Cavill is the end in itself.  What "chase" did he ever have to undertake? Now, Harvey Weinstein... he is and always was — as he knows and admits — ugly. Sex with Harvey would always only be a means to an end.

I like the name "Cavill." It's a verb — "cavil." It means "make petty or unnecessary objections."

91 comments:

James K said...

Cavill's concerns about flirting, asking someone out, etc. seem imaginary. There's never a problem with "Can I call you?" "Can we get together sometime," and so forth. The real problem is on the date. Any physical action initiated by the man can be called "molesting," and if the woman goes along with it and has regrets, "rape." At least on college campuses.

mockturtle said...

What? Some women would trade sex for position, power, fame and fortune? Unheard of!

Shouting Thomas said...

Weinstein tells the truth.

He's also correct that, now that he's been ostracized, somebody else is testing out the hopefuls.

This is the nature of the arts. You can try to change this aspect of human behavior, but you will inevitably fail.

The music biz is just as bad. And it's not just men doing it, that is testing out the talent. The women are doing it too. And the male homos are the absolute worst. How is it that AIDS exterminated entire theatrical troupes in NYC and SF? If you aren't enthusiastic about the gay orgy scene where alliances are forged, you might as well go home to Kansas.

Feminists will fail utterly in changing this aspect of the arts, because the women who have tits and ass to sell and don't mind selling it will win in the long run. And, to the chagrin of feminists, there are women who enjoy whoring, too. And, by that, I mean that there are women out there who like all the crazy fucking they can get.

Kate said...

HW's ugly on the inside. It wasn't his looks keeping women away. Cavill is handsome on the outside. He's a gamer nerd on the inside.

Bay Area Guy said...

As for Harvey, he makes a good point- a big part of life for young males is jockeying for status among the males, and nothing confers more status than than attracting high-quality women. And nothing confers more anguish and embarrassment than getting rejected by high-quality women. But ya gotta learn to get over that, and move on.

And, he's totally right about the Leftwing, Hollywood casting couch.

But, he's still a wierdo rapist, and defiler of potted plants.

As for Henry, he probably has no problem with the ladies, as the tall, rich, handsome movie star that he is. But he is definitely right about the "wedge" now firmly planted between the sexes. I see it in the high school crowd. The boys have the normal teenage angst, plus now they're worried about being embarassed on Snapchat or Instagram, and they're worried about making a wrong move and being labeled a sexual harasser. So, there's much less enjoyable connection between the sexes these days which leads to other problems).

Shouting Thomas said...

All feminism is Marxism. One of the trademarks of Marxism is the belief that politics can alter fundamental human behavior through state force.

Althouse is a Marxist feminism, although she doesn't know it and will deny it. It's odd, I admit, because she's as far from a Marxist in all her other beliefs as possible.

The construction of women as a class with a grievance against men is classic Marxism. And, the belief that the state can (and should) fundamentally change human nature is Marxism.

Darrell said...

You sent me to whore school.
I graduated with honors.
--Jennifer Lawrence

rhhardin said...

You can he #MeToo or women can grow up.

MikeR said...

Yeah, I kind of tentatively assumed this from the start. It was not really believable that all these famous Hollywood actresses had of course turned him down flat - or were raped. None were coming forward and talking about how they had said Yes because that's how their career works.
I had assumed at the time that that meant they weren't really going to try him for rape, because who was actually going to testify? But we'll see.

"But he made some really great movies!" Lovely.

rhhardin said...

If I were Hollywood I'd go for less woke crap. Talented screenwriters are the rarity these days.

rhhardin said...

Romanov always used I can make you a tsar.

Expat(ish) said...

I don't even know who these people are. Well HW, obviously, he's been in the press.

I honestly would have thought Taki was a greek seasoning.

Could not get excellent SAT word Cavil out of my head reading the article.

Methinks that bubble is damn small.

-XC

Michael K said...

ST, I would call it more Gramscian.

Capitalism, Gramsci suggested, maintained control not just through violence and political and economic coercion, but also through ideology. The bourgeoisie developed a hegemonic culture, which propagated its own values and norms so that they became the "common sense" values of all. People in the working-class (and other classes) identified their own good with the good of the bourgeoisie, and helped to maintain the status quo rather than revolting.

To counter the notion that bourgeois values represented "natural" or "normal" values for society, the working class needed to develop a culture of its own. Lenin held that culture was "ancillary" to political objectives, but for Gramsci it was fundamental to the attainment of power that cultural hegemony be achieved first


Cultural hegemony is what we have seen destroyed the last 50 years, since 1960. Bourgeois culture included courting, chivalry and a normal relationship between men and women. That us being destroyed. The contraceptive pill, and now implant, helped destroy it.

Women used to defer sex to marriage lest they risk pregnancy. Then the pill seemed to give them the same sexual freedom that men had but sex in women sets off some hormonal reactions that leads to nest building and relationship fixation.

Those hormones are being studied now as they might be related to autism. The feminists have tried to suppress that nest building reaction, first by lots of sex with multiple partners and then (now) by trying to convince women that men are dispensable and even bad. The present rape hysteria is part of that effort.

The major effect is to make a lot of young women unhappy and depressed

It's all hormones, Feminism is trying to make women autistic and, with some, it is succeeding.

narciso said...

Cahill is very wooden in man of steel, but it works for him in man from uncle, of course which do we get more of?

Ron Winkleheimer said...

The fact that Cavill is tall, rich, and handsome means he is going to be pursuing extraordinarily attractive women. Women who are used to being pursued by tall, handsome men and treat that pursuit as their due. Therefore, a certain amount of finesse on his part is going to be a requirement. Especially if he is looking to form a relationship and not just have casual sex.

rhhardin said...

I missed the disgrace part. There was a lot of yelling and an estrogen cloud mob action. Beta males looking to get in somebody's panties went along with the mob.

Rape would be bad but the moralism lesson isn't about rape, which everybody agreed with already. It's about normal male/female interaction.

Male/female interaction is now supposed to be governed by retroactive moods of the female. That's what women always think, but it's been restricted to the husband before, which husband is interested in her so it works out. Now it applies to society in general, which is supposed to be interested in her mood today. Not true.

Bay Area Guy said...

The 2 keys for young males in the modern era of Marxist, #Metoo, hyper-competitive feminism:

1. Do not sleep with crazy, Leftwing women - even the good-looking ones. You will avoid many headaches, heartaches and lawsuits.
2. Do learn to date attractive apolitical or conservative women, and vigorously sleep with them.

Meade said...

"Althouse is a Marxist feminism, although she doesn't know it and will deny it."

Not really. She's more Pioneer woman than Marxist feminist — "a gentle white-haired housewife, Quakerish in appearance."

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Now it applies to society in general, which is supposed to be interested in her mood today. Not true.

I agree with rhhardin on this. I was reading a ridiculous article on Salon yesterday. A woman was opining on all the "emotional work" women have to do and related that to the Papa John situation and how tired it made her and how hard she and other women had to work in regards to rectifying such "toxic" situations. She sounded quite heart broke and anguished.

The woman's actual situations? She heard about some guy who runs a pizza chain say something stupid on a conference call which, if she had an ounce of sense, would have had zero impact on her mood and well being. She is a drama queen and narcissist. If anybody is having to do a lot of "emotional work" it the people around her as they try to cope with her nonsense.

rehajm said...

What "chase" did he ever have to undertake?

It was called play hard to get and all good girls did it for some reason- didn't matter how cute the boy was. Liked being pursued maybe?

Leland said...

I suppose there is a difference between forcing a woman down, lying on top of her, then penetrating the vagina with the penis or presenting yourself naked, maybe waist down, to a woman and stroking your penis in front of her. However, I suspect the woman is very uncomfortable either way until she gets away. When you fear getting away means throwing away all that you have worked to obtain; then the latter probably lends itself to the former.

I understand a little about Harvey's limitation on attracting women. I'm shorter than most men, and even the shortest of women prefer taller men. But I also learned that if all you are interested in is sex; there is always a woman willing if you equally make allowances for how attractive she may be. Here's the thing though, if you really want sex with a top notch mate; then what works is being top notch yourself. My wife of 18 years has never let me down, and she demands, by virtue of staying with me, that I never do the same.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Liked being pursued maybe?

Well, yeah. If guys are going to the trouble of pursuing you, then you must be worth pursuing.

James K said...

In any case, HW is wrong about the "ugly, Jewish" part being an obstacle. Women don't care as much about looks as men do, and being rich and powerful is an allure. It also helps to be charming, funny, and interesting. It sounds like he never worked on those qualities, because "Sleep with and I'll make you a star" was pretty successful.

Michael K said...

"She is a drama queen and narcissist."

A lot of them around lately.

FIDO said...

Feminism seems to be intent on destroying the normal pair bonding between men and women.

Most women aren't into that, but as far as Feminism helps them get better jobs with less effort, making divorce palatable, and removing any tool or tactic that allows ugly men to hit on them, they will take double helpings, please!

rehajm said...

I recall a bit miffed when you'd cut off the chase.

Shouting Thomas said...

Memo to the world:

I went into the arts, specifically the music biz, (1) because it's my nature to play music and (2) because of the reputation of the arts as an arena for wild sex and drama.

The drama, adventure and wild sex are the attractions. Remember how explicit this was in the 60s? Woodstock?

The arts are a Wild West. Most actors and musicians never make a cent and yet spend decades trying to find the door. They get desperate and they are easy marks for all kinds of exploitation. Companies and shysters who sell musical equipment and fake contests to music hopefuls are often the only ones who make money.

The arts are as wicked as advertised. Don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.

tcrosse said...

Women don't care as much about looks as men do, and being rich and powerful is an allure.

Otherwise, guys like Ari Onassis, Henry Kissinger, or Carlo Ponti would never get any. But they did.

FIDO said...

Kissinger was a 3. His wife was a five with good light and a stellar makeup person.

But Kissinger could call the President and stand on his wallet.

He was not shooting for a Scarlett Johansson. Perhaps the odd intern but that's just a Clintonesque job benefit.

Weinstein upset the natural order.

FIDO said...

Even a Cavil probably gets shot down 50% of the time. Women like to complicate everything and frequently have enormous self regard.

Then again, he bats around the stratosphere.

I loved him in The Tudors.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Althouse is hilarious. Women don't want to sleep with men because they're "attractive." They want to sleep with a man because they're horny - which is apparently a state of mind/being she's long suppressed, if not forever. This could be due to time of month, age, or whatever. But as far as what they're attracted to, it's height and the projection of power - financially, or - even better nowadays - culturally. Jennifer Lawrence wants to sleep with Larry David. Looks don't hurt but they're far from determinative.

But it never hurts to pick up on the ubiquity of the gold digger. Money helps more than looks or personality or intelligence, although personality can convey it. The fact that you capitalist whores can't understand this is hilarious. The hippies knew that free love and anti-materialism were connected. Modern Republicans (oxymoron) want a shallow, materialistic, power-obsessed world that somehow retains solidarity and maternal virtue. Hahaha! Right!

That being said, Cavil's right. American puritanism/Victorianism/sexual paranoia/schizophrenia's been here since the beginning, and as a Channel Island subject Cavil understands it to a degree. No means no.... chasing, wooing - at least if you're British enough to be as polite as you can about some silly social norm.

And this brings us to Michael Special K's latest nugget of amyloid plaque deposition. Controlling female sexuality is an agrarian game. But the retrogrades aren't even content with returning us to the age of the plow and horse. The pre-agrarian, warmongering tribal societies to which they want us to return were very randy. It wasn't much of a threat if your woman slept with and bore children with your brother than if she was sleeping with a few of the 10,000 guys in one of those newer cities - both evolutionarily and in terms of bequeathing all the material wealth you could accumulate to the wrong kid. This wasn't the case prior to farming, wealth, urban settlement and peopling that greatly expanded beyond the dozen or so related individuals in in the hunter-gatherer bands we were part of previously.

Republicans don't even want us to return to the hunter-gatherer stage, though. They keep saying global warming's ok because of what the earth "endured" in the past - what's right for human existence (let alone civilization) be damned!

Gahrie said...

It means "make petty or unnecessary objections."

And of course any man complaining about the current social environment and the difference in "right" and responsibilities between men and women is obviously just a splooge stooge making petty or unnecessary objections.

JohnJMac862 said...

Anyone who has experienced anything of human nature and has the common sense of a 15 year-old will recognize the folly of "me too."

1) Women are always attracted to powerful men.
2) Men like to have sex with attractive women.

Weinstein did not invent the casting couch.


And...most relative...today - absolute power corrupts. If you give women the power to destroy men without any of the safeguards that protect the accused, then you are handing them absolute power. Not all women who feel "wronged," regardless of the facts, will resist the temptation to destroy their antagonist.

Gahrie said...

I doubt Louisa Ann Swain ever called anyone a splooge stooge.

tcrosse said...

Kissinger was a 3. His wife was a five with good light and a stellar makeup person.

Henry Kissinger was Jack the Lad in his single days. He's the one that said that Power is a great Aphrodisiac.

Bob Boyd said...

I don't feel sorry for Harvey Weinstein.
There may indeed be a lynch mob running around, but Weinstein isn't one of the guys getting lynched. Weinstein is on trial.

Wince said...

"Harvey Weinstein: ‘I offered acting jobs in exchange for sex, but so does everyone – they still do’.

Isn't that the very definition of quid pro quo sexual harassment? QPQ being more unequivocal and less subjective form of sexual harassment than "hostile environment", which seems to be the fear of Cavill.

You'd think Weinstein's lawyer would have instructed him to at least drop the "exchange" phraseology.

Conversely, Cavill is right. Young men have to be developing an unhealthy aversion to old fashion "wooing" and pursuit based on a fear of being accused of creating a "pervasive" hostile environment.

Darrell said...

Rumored Kissinger sex partners?

Barbara Walters, Gina Lollobrigida, Marlo Thomas, Candice Bergen, Samantha Eggar, and Jill St. John. And many "professionals"--paid for by others, of course.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Do learn to date attractive apolitical or conservative women, and vigorously sleep with them.

Do conservative women "date"... humans? I occasionally see their online dating profiles, filled with guns and such and other strange vibrator/penis substitutes. And then there was the sociopath I met who "respected traditional." I think that was a line she threw out there to avoid reputational embarrassment for being a sex addict. I doubt sociopaths are likely to be liberal or progressive. Better for them to follow "rules" than reason.

Most of the women will basically say that they're feminists in name only, just not to be associated with the excesses a stupid, anti-egalitarian movement while still going along with what it takes to convey self-respect. I guess you'd call them apolitical, or apolitical enough to not be all messed up.

I dated an actual Green party registrant recently who was nice, and sexual, but hung up an a bipolar ex-husband and incapable of... I think separating her feelings with plans. I don't know. I put her in the friend zone anyway.

Southern women are generally better daters and bed-mates but I think this goes more to a desirable cultural trait than anything specifically political. But sometimes their hussie ways can cross over into outright skankdom and you don't want that either.

Traditional women are fine. But "conservatives" are too single-minded/simple-minded and gun-obsessed. You definitely don't want them. Unless you think Lorena Bobbit suffered from an unfortunate restriction of weapon choice.

Shouting Thomas said...

Ritmo, Heartiste is an interesting site for a dozen or so readings and then it's an awful, obsessive bore.

I recommend reading it those dozen or so times for the little kernel of truth that it can convey.

Beyond that, it's stupid. What man with any sense wants to live with the brutality of gaming women, when you can find a perfectly nice one to sleep with without resorting to game?

My daughters were feminists for a while, and they deferred marriage into their 30s. They are married now to very nice, blue collar guys who make six figures fixing stuff.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Game is boring - at least after a certain, limited but useful point. There are always losers and if it's not you (this time), it will eventually be your own sense of self. Unless you like playing people more than you like finding company worth enjoying. I don't.

But as Chris Rock said, when you're dating someone, you're not dating them. You're dating their representative (i.e. a self constructed just to convey what they want you to know about them). Every now and then someone breaks the mode with radical honesty/openness which is at least easier to respect.

Women naturally "game" in the sense that, as Jordan Peterson points out, ranking men is their default mode in this economy/society.

Your daughters sound like they did what was right for them. Everyone should.

I don't read "Heartiste" but I'm always up for checking out something new.

Cheers -

dreams said...

"The fact that Cavill is tall, rich, and handsome means he is going to be pursuing extraordinarily attractive women. Women who are used to being pursued by tall, handsome men and treat that pursuit as their due. Therefore, a certain amount of finesse on his part is going to be a requirement. Especially if he is looking to form a relationship and not just have casual sex."

Yeah.

Ann Althouse said...

"Isn't that the very definition of quid pro quo sexual harassment? QPQ being more unequivocal and less subjective form of sexual harassment than "hostile environment", which seems to be the fear of Cavill."

He's trying to get off the hook on criminal sexual assault charges, so he may want to concede that it was sexual harassment, which is only a civil liability problem. He may need to say, this is what I offered and this woman took the offer, so there was consent to the act and it wasn't rape. He still has a legal problem, but he won't go to prison.

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Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Women who are used to being pursued by tall, handsome men and treat that pursuit as their due. Therefore, a certain amount of finesse on his part is going to be a requirement.

No doubt.

Anyone who's dated knows that a woman's self-perception as someone who can/cannot be pictured on a magazine cover determines exactly how entitled she feels to play a guy (and which guys) and how skillfully she expects to be played ("pursued") in return.

Loren W Laurent said...

No one gets too concerned about the crack whore sucking cocks to get her crack.

But we are concerned about actresses sucking cocks to be a star.

I suspect the crack whore has less illusions about her life.

-LWL

Shouting Thomas said...

Shorter version, Ritmo.

Drama queens are the best lays. Shit, I love them. What I wouldn't give to find one again, but age takes most of them out. One of the most interesting I've ever met just kicked the bucket. Alcoholism exploded her body at age 49.

Self-awareness and a sense of humor separate out the amusing, fun and sexy drama queens from the assassins.

Some drama queens love men and love taking them for a wild ride.

mockturtle said...

To many, if not most, women a powerful man is more attractive than a handsome one.

mockturtle said...

No one gets too concerned about the crack whore sucking cocks to get her crack.

But we are concerned about actresses sucking cocks to be a star.

I suspect the crack whore has less illusions about her life.

-LWL

Exactly!

rhhardin said...

He's trying to get off the hook on criminal sexual assault charges, so he may want to concede that it was sexual harassment, which is only a civil liability problem. He may need to say, this is what I offered and this woman took the offer, so there was consent to the act and it wasn't rape. He still has a legal problem, but he won't go to prison.

There's a large space between consent and no. It's a let's see how it goes space. A space that benefitted both parties.

It got screwed up when the law got interested, and one party can get something additional from the other, which was the point of the law getting interested.

rhhardin said...

Do female porn stars have this problem.

Wince said...

Althouse said...
He's trying to get off the hook on criminal sexual assault charges, so he may want to concede that it was sexual harassment, which is only a civil liability problem. He may need to say, this is what I offered and this woman took the offer, so there was consent to the act and it wasn't rape. He still has a legal problem, but he won't go to prison.

Excellent point. But under that scenario, especially with this much popular attention, I wonder if we could end up with a new judicial "Weinstein precedent" that quid pro quo vitiates the underlying consent with respect to a criminal charge?

Wince said...

"You were born rich and privileged and you were handsome. I was born poor, ugly, Jewish and had to fight all my life to get somewhere."

Yeah, but you're both white males: so pin this target to each of your backs.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Damn. Sorry to hear that.

An apparent alcoholic I briefly knew also recently chose the hard way out... at 36. Crazy world.

I know another one who's a total sweetheart, but she has good family, friends, business connections. I keep crossing my fingers. I think she'll get by.

I deleted my previous comment (probably the one you responded to) about sociopaths, but holy shit. I'll just say that I'm a tiny bit less inclined to harshly judge whichever crazy bitches sent Ted Bundy love letters to him while in prison.

That said, maybe it's a good thing that most women lack the kind of "power" that girls like mockturtle - far from the exception - are attracted to. But I'd like to think I've got the sense to follow up with a hearty fuck off in response to, "So yes you're very powerful Madame President but you want me to do.... what?"

For guys the self-preservation instinct must kick in sooner, at least when it comes to that crap.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

In Rome prostitution and the dramatic arts were considered equivalent professions.

In America, money is king and this lucrative cinema business confers royalty. So treat these actresses like princesses we must.

I'd like to find the quote where a guy from before 1910 opines on how with the moving picture reel actors will soon gain unimaginable esteem and clout.

The Godfather said...

"Harvey Weinstein... he is and always was — as he knows and admits — ugly. Sex with Harvey would always only be a means to an end."

So we are to believe that NO WOMAN would have sex with an ugly man except as a means to an end? I know some women who have been happily married to ugly guys for many years.

FIDO said...

I remember a story about this female music teacher in The Academy, married, who started banging one of her teaching assistants.


The Drama Sluts in the Theater arts thought this was a fine idea and ran cover for her, even as her life disintegrated around me her. But it was Operatic and High Drama, which they love about all else.

So Dramatis Personea are just fucked up and different. That difference and moral exceptionalism is ALSO something they crave.

It also wrecks a lot of lives. But the moth doesn't resent the flames until it smells smoke.

Michael said...

Harvey Weinstein will go to jail because he is ugly. Leona Helmsley went to jail because she was a bitch. Ditto Martha Stewart. Had Harvey had the looks of a George Clooney he would have been given a pass. OTOH a better looking guy would not have resorted to Harvey's methods. You can bet that the casting couches of Hollywood are not empty. Even now.

Mark said...

no girl looked at me until I made it big in Hollywood

Completely believable. And it says more about women, than it does about Weinstein.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Thus begins the renovation of Weinstein's reputation. Won't be long before he's back in Hollywood making movies and fundraising for the democrat party. They need him for 2020. Democrat party is like a coalition of villains from some comic book. Criminals, creeps, and degenerates uniting to destroy the Superman who has been foiling their wicked activities. Now they need to spring Harvey Rape-Rape from the #MeToo prison.

Mark said...

"Harvey Weinstein: ‘I offered acting jobs in exchange for sex, but so does everyone – they still do’.

Isn't that the very definition of quid pro quo sexual harassment?
__________________


It certainly falls within the concept of prostitution. And there are likely more women willing to whore themselves -- for the prospect of some gain or simply to "score" with some celebrity or rich and powerful -- in every corner of society than there are sexual harassing creep men.

n.n said...

Physical and mental aesthetics will get you the interview, and may get you a friend with "benefits". It seems that Weinstein was unqualified for the positions he applied, and made up for it with leverage that exploited the pursuit of wealth, pleasure, leisure, and social progress. Well, there was no loss of life, that was reported. It may not have been involuntary or superior exploitation. A minor trans-social event at best. A #MeToo moment in social dysfunction.

Ralph L said...

There's "hi."

Even Cavill has to say the full "hello"--unless he's cruising for men.

Otto said...

Why did weinstein cite being jewish? Ugly and poor seems to suffice. Was he claiming antisemitism, Jews have trouble dating, Jewish men are sexual deviants or playing the victim card?
Also puzzling was Feminist Ann"s comment : "Harvey Weinstein... he is and always was — as he knows and admits — ugly. Sex with Harvey would always only be a means to an end."
Feminist go on ad nauseum about men only like pretty women and here a feminist Ann says no girl in her right mind would have sex with an ugly guy unless it was for an ulterior motive. So much for modern feminism.

William said...

Henry Cavil is typecast as Suprrman and has trouble hooking up with women? I have my doubts. He might have to jump through a few hoops with Gal Gadot or Margot Robbie, but if he's looking for someone to ease the burden of loneliness on a Saturday night, his life presents no insurmountable challenges. His relationships might deteriorate over time, but the world is full of attractive women who would be eager to see how the night plays out.......Good looking people think that they are blessed with insight and understanding into how the minds of the opposite sex works. Bull. They're blessed with sex appeal, and the opposite sex makes the effort to pretend that they're insightful and understanding.

tcrosse said...

Looks do not translate to skill in The Sack, a bit of learning I purchased with the bitter coin of experience.

William said...

Weinstein's super power was that he wouldn't take no for an answer. He would just bull his way through the negativity. If some woman called him a fat, disgusting pig those words just fell on deaf ears. Most men don't want to have sex with women who consider them fat, disgusting pigs, but not so Harvey. He was very goal oriented. I suppose that's what made him a successful producer. I can't help but wonder what solace he took from forcing himself on all those women. He was married to an attractive, accomplished woman. Most people would consider that enough for a good life. There's something truly monstrous about Harvey.

Howard said...

Althouse says:By the way, Cavill is extremely good looking, and it's hard to understand what he's talking about

There are more many more variables to the equation, Ann. When you are tall, fit and good looking you must also be smart, have a great sense of humor, be athletic, have tool and hand skills to date and marry the very best women with stunning looks, top athlete, physically strong, mentally tough, very high IQ, STEM-capable, good sense of humor, etc. However, you have to chase and earn the top trim, no matter how good looking you are because hunks are a dime a dozen just like foxes.

Joan said...

Cavill speaks in that same interview about being a fat kid. He wasn’t always the tall handsome movie star.

FWIW I think Cavill’s quote here is more evidence that it would be best for most actors to limit themselves to saying words other people write for them, when they are in public.

FIDO said...

Feminist go on ad nauseum about men only like pretty women and here a feminist Ann says no girl in her right mind would have sex with an ugly guy unless it was for an ulterior motive. So much for modern feminism.

Feminists, and Ms. Althouse, are all Pro-Choice...Pro WOMEN'S Choice.

So if a woman wants to have the very best man even is she is a middling 5, or even a Fat 3, You Go Girl. Men only think w their dicks anyway so ANY girl should have equal access.

If a man shows any preference pertaining to personality, politics, or physiognomy, he is a perfidious putz to be pilloried and punished publically.

Though it seems even M. Althouse acknowledges the 'Yum Zone' where a person is such eye candy that the only hoops to be leapt through are 'be pretty' and 'don't ruin it by talking. I can handle the fantasy just fine.'

Michael K said...

he is a perfidious putz to be pilloried and punished publically.

Watch out for the hot crazy matrix !

FullMoon said...

Big diff between "Have sex and become a star" and "refuse sex and lose your career".

langford peel said...

His problem is that he is faster than a speeding bullet.

That's why he never gets a second date.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Lang, he only needs one.

langford peel said...

Than he is Harvey Weinstein.

If it is about quantity and not quality.

Chris of Rights said...

OT: Andrew McCarthy uses the word cavil at least twice in his latest article - https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/peter-strzok-testimony-congress-should-use-contempt-power-or-end-investigations/

langford peel said...

A lot of Harvey's problem was that he was a glutton.

I bet there were thousands of actress/whores who were happy to swallow his goo. He could have a Harem.. But he always wanted the latest thing.

Gluttony not lust was his sin.

He was very similar to Bill Clinton in that regard.

Ralph L said...

His problem is that he is faster than a speeding bullet.

Gotta cum before the potted plant escapes.

Bad Lieutenant said...

It wasn't a potted plant, it was a pot. They were in a restaurant kitchen. Restaurant kitchens don't usually feature potted plants.

Also, some of it at least was a power play. To make Ms. Sweet Young Thing understand her place in the Scheme of Things, and be tractable on set, in negotiations, etc.

Oso Negro said...

Well some people try to pick up girls
and get called assholes
This never happened to Pablo Picasso

Krumhorn said...

Now you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No’

One is left to wonder which of the alternatives should not result in a legitimate charge of sexual misconduct...or assault. Maybe he’s thinking along the lines that

“Your lips tell me no, no
But there's yes, yes in your eyes”

- Krumhorn

Michael K said...


Blogger Oso Negro said...
Well some people try to pick up girls
and get called assholes
This never happened to Pablo Picasso


Sara Murphy turned him down and he painted himself out of a painting he made of her.

I have a half dozen books on her and Gerald, her husband.

Warren Fahy said...

I suppose it's easy to imagine that all women Henry Cavil might fancy would automatically fall at his feed at "Hello." It's also wrong. Sometimes, the more attractive a man is, the more defiant some women are at being expected to fall at his feet. That distinguishes them from the rest and often makes them more attractive. For what it's worth, my (future) wife vigorously rejected me. Then a few weeks later she asked, "Why did you stop? You're supposed to come back. That's how it works." But is it? I didn't marry her until 24 years later... after she initiated it with me in no uncertain terms, and then there was no doubt there was a green light. Not ideal, but there it is. Pride and Prejudice.

Freeman Hunt said...

"There’s something wonderful about a man chasing a woman. There’s a traditional approach to that, which is nice. I think a woman should be wooed and chased, but maybe I’m old-fashioned for thinking that."

I agree with him. When I met my husband, he basically acted like Bill Murray's character in Ghostbusters. It was wonderful.

Doesn't make any difference whether or not they're good-looking. They still often have to chase.

Seeing Red said...

Charlie Sheen went out with ‘escorts” for a reason.

Freeman Hunt said...

The guys who have the shortest length of chasing period are the funny ones, regardless of looks. A homely guy who's hilarious will always have a girlfriend if he wants one.

Freeman Hunt said...

Also, men seem to enjoy dating women more attractive than themselves. Do women enjoy dating more attractive men? Not most of them, I think.

rhhardin said...

BEAST: Fired BILLBOARD CEO probed for gay slurs, sex harassment, financial misconduct...

Newspaper publisher resigns after N-word... -Drudge

The pile-on effect. It's from a partial archetype.

Blacks and women are pure innocence. By grammatical reflex, the other side is pure evil.

walter said...

He's wise to attempt to reframe this into a standard casting-couch scenario vs the bizarro pleadings to watch him soap his blubber.

Friedrich Engels' Barber said...

The GQ interview - fake sentiment manufactured by a PR flack, memorized as a script by Cavil, and delivered on stage to build Cavil's market share with women. Trump's pussy discussion much more authentic - about women and show biz.

Caligula said...

"‘I offered acting jobs in exchange for sex,"

Or perhaps sometimes he offered acting jobs in exchange for sex, but after accepting the sex sometimes failed to deliver the jobs?

That just might make someone angry. Yet (somewhat like a customer burned in a drug deal), a public complaint surely would be framed as "He made me do it, he raped me!" rather than, " ... And I didn't get what I paid for!"