She looks like she's underwater and about to surface, no?
The link goes to "Is Hillary Clinton secretly planning to run in 2020?" (Michael Goodwin in the NY Post).
Five times in the last month alone, she sent e-mails touting her super PAC’s role in combating President Trump....A mother hen to the fledgling activists.... yeesh. Too gendered. And even if you like highly gendered metaphors used on women, Hillary isn't motherly. I can't picture her nurturing the new generation of "activists." If she's still active, I think she's keeping alive her own selfish ambition. If she wants the new people to flourish, she should get out of the way and let them have the stage, not swan about one last time. (Continuation of the avian metaphor intended.)
[T]he day after Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy announced his retirement, Clinton introduced a newly minted resistance partner. Called Demand Justice, it promises to protect “reproductive rights, voting rights and access to health care” by keeping Senate Democrats united in opposing any conservative Trump nominee.
The instant, in-house nature of Demand Justice was reflected by the name of its executive director: Brian Fallon, Clinton’s campaign press secretary....
With the Democratic Party locked in a battle between its far left wing and its far, far left wing, no single leader has emerged to unite it. Clinton is trying to play that role by being a mother hen to the fledgling activists drawn to politics by their hatred of Trump.
Goodwin says his liberal-Democrat friends are horrified at the idea of Hillary running in 2020. And here's how he assesses her chances:
First, because there’s no clear front-runner for the nomination 18 months into Trump’s presidency, Clinton remains the closest thing to an incumbent...This sounds very similar to how Jeb Bush was talked about in the 2016 race, and it's how we got Trump. But is there some Trump-like person among the Democrats who could stand his/her ground while Hillary, with money and name-recognition, squelches the rise of a bunch of medium-sized Democrats? Only one name occurs to me, but she said no, no, no, not me, it would kill me.
Second, a crowded, diverse field diminishes the chances of anyone knocking her off. Recall how Trump outlasted 16 GOP rivals by having a committed core of supporters that grew as the field shrunk. Clinton could be in a similar position — unpopular among many, but also unbeatable by a single opponent.
Third, looking ahead to the 2020 primaries, she sees no reason to fear the favorite daughters and sons in key blue states. She would almost certainly beat Sen. Kamala Harris in California, Sen. Cory Booker in New Jersey and Gov. Andrew Cuomo in New York....
Fourth, money is not an issue....
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It's time for Hillary to come down from the cross. The Dems need the wood.
She's looking at a vision of the Holy Grail
So it should have said a mother red hen?
Mark Penn was just on Fox News claiming she would make a great Supreme Court Justice.
Run Hillary, run. Three time loser.
Trump will win 40 states unless the Dems nominate Howard Schultz.
Jeb Bush is a good example. The experts thought he was the candidate. No one else voted for him. Every Republican I knew said, Huh? You've got to be crazy.
No one is going to vote for Clinton.
Oprah would be a logical choice for Democrats who think Trump won because of celebrity.
I would like to see Oprah in Iowa explaining why "I will never eat another burger."
Another pundit gets it wrong, the voters have Hillary fatigue.
"I think she's keeping alive her own selfish ambition. If she wants the new people to flourish, she should get out of the way and let them have the stage, not swan about..."
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I was hearing this just a few days ago..about Pelosi.
Every generation throws a Stassen up the pop charts.
There is nothing secret about it. She is not flying around the world giving speeches just to hear herself talk.
The instant, in-house nature of Demand Justice was reflected by the name of its executive director: Brian Fallon, Clinton’s campaign press secretary...Clinton is trying to play that role by being a mother hen to the fledgling activists drawn to politics by their hatred of Trump.
Of course, these clowns are trying to gin up another campaign. It's what they do. If they didn't, they'd actually have to find honest work to do.
Fourth, money is not an issue....
Ya ever wonder where that $1.2 billion HRC raised in 2016 went? That's a lot of money. It's strange how the recent books like Shattered on the HRC campaign don't dwell much on where did all that money go? I suspect I know the reason.
After HRC lost in 2016, her donors dried up. They felt betrayed & tapped out. All that money. All those promises, All for nada. She's not getting any more money. I'll bet when the article says money's no problem they mean she's still got a huge wad left of that $1.2 billion from 2016.
She's not likable enough.
"There is nothing secret about it."
-- Health willing, she'll run or try and play kingmaker. The only problem is that being a two-time loser, she's really losing a lot of the sway she had to the more left, Obama wing of the party. People would put up with Clinton money-and-friends first policies when they were winners. When they're losers, unless they're in the money-and-friends portion of the Clinton triangulation, it seems the Democrat party is leaning more towards Obama.
"No one is going to vote for Clinton."
-- I mean, I don't like Clinton either -- but she *did* win the popular vote. If she runs again, it isn't a given she'll lose again.
Maybe Hillary! and Jeb! can team up on a neverTrump platform, the uni-party's last effort to save the good thing they had going until The Donald came along.
They could combine their 2016 slogans.
Clinton Bush
"I'm all in her"
Notice how we haven't heard a peep outta Jeb! in nearly 2 years? That's a good thing - for us and Jeb!
Notice how Hillary writes a book, gives talks, gives speeches, does interviews and desperately tries to stay relevant? That's a pathetic thing. Go play with your grandkids Hillary and leave us alone.
"Back to the Forward."
If she runs again, it isn't a given she'll lose again.
She's made it plain that she's learned absolutely nothing from 2016.
'I mean, I don't like Clinton either -- but she *did* win the popular vote. If she runs again, it isn't a given she'll lose again.' No, no - I mean in the primary. I don't believe any Democrats would nominate her or vote for her, except a few billionaires.
Grifters gotta have something to grift with.
Dems have an affinity for their felons. Hillary 20/20? Only if served consecutively!
That’s the trick with another Hillary run, isn’t it? When she runs you hop on the train early or live with the risk and fear if being shut out of the goodies if she wins.
I don't believe any Democrats would nominate her or vote for her, except a few billionaires.
It rather depends on who is running the DNC in 2019-2020, no?
The longer people aren't seeing or hearing her, they better they think of her. She needs to remain just relevant enough that her name isn't meet with howls of laughter (while it worked for Trump, I don't see it working for many others).
I think the midterms will be a big factor (Duh, Matt.)
If we get more far left wins, I don't think Clinton has a shot. If there's a lashback against those sorts, and we see the Democrats lose winnable seats because they went too far left, a call to normalcy/more center-left (or at least, appearance of center-left) policies might open the way for a Clinton or a Clinton-ite.
If the left re-takes the House or Senate (or somehow both), then no matter what, it is going to be painted as a win for going further left, and Clinton's chances drop significantly.
She’s made it plain that she's learned absolutely nothing from 2016.
Well we all know that she *really* won, so what is there to learn? I think a platform of opening our steel markets to the Chinese, shutting down coal, making high gas prices worse by shutting down fracking and killing pipelines, erasing our borders while at the same time offering free health care to all comers, etc, etc, etc, will certainly fly today!
Bukake soon.
"She looks like she's underwater and about to surface, no?"
Cue up that fast-paced Jaws music used just before Bruce strikes.
Hillary's no cave diver. Muff diver maybe....
It's time for Hillary to come down from the cross. The Dems need the wood.
I like that song too.
respectfully, you all have it ALL WRONG!
Hillary isn't using her money to run again. Who was born on February 27, 1980?
Chelsea! She's 38, that's old enough. IT's Time For a New Clinton!!!!
THIS TIME IT WILL WORK!! After all; what's lacking in Chelsea? other than EVERYTHING?
a platform of opening our steel markets to the Chinese, shutting down coal, making high gas prices worse by shutting down fracking and killing pipelines, erasing our borders while at the same time offering free health care to all comers, etc, etc, etc, will certainly fly today!
Remember all the leisure time you had back when you were on FUNemployment ? Now with that Bastard TRump in the White House; it's nothing but Work Work Work
She should be in prison.
"This sounds very similar to how Jeb Bush was talked about in the 2016 race"
Hill's low energy was so obvious, Trump didn't even need to say it.
"Only one name occurs to me, but she said no, no, no, not me, it would kill me."
Hey, hey, me too--back in '16, when yours truly made the very first prediction, right on this blog.
If there's a lashback against those sorts, and we see the Democrats lose winnable seats because they went too far left, a call to normalcy/more center-left (or at least, appearance of center-left) policies might open the way for a Clinton or a Clinton-ite.
Good observation.
By the way, six kids are out of the cave now,
HER-> desperation to cling to power is obvious and odious.
"With the Democratic Party locked in a battle between its far left wing and its far, far left wing, no single leader has emerged to unite it. Clinton is trying to play that role by being a mother hen to the fledgling activists drawn to politics by their hatred of Trump.
Other leaders should be allowed to emerge- Moderate democrat governors, for instance. The corrupt Clinton machine and the far far radical leftwing of The Party won't let that happen.
It will be Hillary 2020. and she will lose again. Too bad Sessions is so useless. He could spare us the Hillary fatigue.
I'm with Oprah if Oprah is what it takes to finally smother the Clinton Crime Family Power-Obsessed Money Machine.
Too bad Sessions is so useless. He could spare us the Hillary fatigue.
I also don't get Sessions. He seems to be leading the life of a Senator.
Maybe he is secretly planning the Inquisition of Democrats but , if so, he is doing a good job of keeping it secret,
HER -> Hillary’s Eventual Return
She will run again with the cute socialist as her running mate. And, God help our poor country, she would probably win.
If you can’t own the news cycle, you won’t win in 2020.
Do you think Trump’s getting better or worse at media manipulation?
I think this could be to keep money flowing to her minions, since no one else wants to employ them. But does She care about the little people?
Clearly, God's light is shining on her angelic face as she receives His great favor.
The only part of the Mother Hen she has down is the cackle.
Anyone in the GOP set up a Private Server while head of any major governmental department? Just asking.
She can run, again. But she will still be wrong.
I see only some parallel with Jeb. The parallel being they both thought it only inevitable they should run, and they should win. I guess this time, there may also be the parallel that outside the Clinton/Bush inner circles, nobody else wants to see them or vote for them. I'm not sure Hillary could be Biden in 2020. After Shattered, I don't think Sanders supporters will give in. Neither Biden or Sanders are like Trump.
I could see her winning the way McCain did in 2008 -- as everyone's third choice when the more exciting candidates all flame out or prove themselves not yet ready for primetime.
She looks like she's underwater and about to surface, no?
The Democrats won't send a dive team to rescue her from the cave.
Too risky.
She was already well past her freshness date in 2016. Old and tired, even then. She ain't getting any younger.
She will run again with the cute socialist as her running mate. And, God help our poor country, she would probably win.
If you mean the one who recently won in New York,,,she's too young.
So she's doing a Mao and hoping to energize the Red Guard to take over the Party.
And Drudge...it isn't a secret.
I personally would love to see Hillary run again and kill off another generation of young Democratic leaders.
Hillary is the George Costanza of politics. She'll never be elected simply because of that.
Also, will all the foreign suckers who gave all of that money to the Clinton Foundation in hopes of buying access to President Hillary be willing to throw good money after bad again?
Hillary is the George Costanza of politics
Although she thinks she's Elaine. And Trump is Kramer.
I might consider voting for her this time around, provided that she is somewhat more strong on terrorism, or at least takes it seriously. We had that big terrorist attack in June/July 2016, and Trump had a strong reaction, while Hillary shrugged the whole thing off and continued swanning around in her glory. She can't run on the economy, but if she has, at the very least, some kind of coherent message re National Security, it may spark some interest & potential votes.
"She looks like she's underwater and about to surface, no?"
To me, she looks like she's stuck beneath a glass ceiling.
It’s time for another Harold Stassen or Adlai Stevenson. Run Hillary Run!
That's funny. You actually thought Matt Drudge cares about human events.
He doesn't care about humans, period. Just his political agenda. And sensationalism.
She's not easy to look at. If I had to put lipstick on that face I'd probably hire a doctor to administer propofol while I slept.
Deep sleep...
I guess she's not dying of one of the many maladies attributed to her in '16.
I guess she's not dying of one of the many maladies attributed to her in '16.
All that money that the Russians gave her and Bill buys a lot of good medical care.
I mean how difficult could it be to find enough volunteers among the "tourists" in Thailand willing to "rescue" young boys?
It beats writing another book, and it's probably more lucrative. The market for Clinton books is tapped out, but there's still a fair number of rich widows and Rich-type widows who are willing to ante up some money for the Sacred Cause.
Matthew Sablan,
Yes, HRC won the popular vote. Trump was the one with the sense to see that the popular vote means exactly bupkis in a Presidential election.
As a matter of fact, no one "won" the popular vote, b/c Johnson and Stein. NB her husband didn't "win" the popular vote either time, either, b/c Perot.
Just one of those nightmares that never goes away. A picture of a swamp creature rising from the black lagoon. Until she breathes her last she is the stuff of nightmares.
In 2020 I'll be carrying a small wooden cross and have a handful of garlic nearby. And that's on my calmer days when I contemplate the mere possibility of a Hillary in the Oval Office.
She looked a million years old last time ... despite being two years younger than Trump.
I'll say what I said going into the last cycle, and going into the 2008 cycle.
Hillary's natural constituency is Democratic politicians who came into power in the 1990s and want another bite at the apple. Basically, the political machine that elected Bill, refurbished with a new candidate who isn't constitutionally barred from running again.
But those guys aren't hungry anymore. They shocked the world in 1992 and ran a very good campaign in 1996 -- 22 years ago. And Hillary was never a great candidate to start with.
She's a bad combination of joyless frontrunner and hopeless vanity candidate.
gilbar,
Chelsea would never give up her journalism career.
Maybe she is posturing to keep the deep state insiders from testifying against her.
The Obama machine wounded, if not killed, the Clinton machine. Oil it, gas it, change the tires, check the bobble head, jump start it.
Doesn't Oprah have "casting couch" baggage? If you want the part, you will let the producer poke it.
Run Whoopi Goldberg of rape-rape fame as her VP.
"She looks like she's underwater and about to surface, no?"
I believe the correct term is "breaching".
How hard is it to hide health problems when one can come and go as a private citizen?
How hard is it to hide an illness when one is a public figure with a time table, obligations, and a million cameras and reporters surrounding you constantly?
Right now, Hillary could be suffering from renal failure, heart problems, a backed up colon and the Black Death itself, and we would never know because she only sees people when SHE wants to.
So the alluding to the fact that her health problems can't possibly exist is ridiculous on it's face.
Or pithier: the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
How many women of her age are 'healthy'? I've seen some. They aren't shaped like a pear.
Another pundit gets it wrong, the voters have Hillary fatigue. r/v
You think that's going to stop her?
It hasn't before.
I believe the correct term is "breaching".
Spy hopping!!
I have thought from November 9th 2016 that Hillary was running again. I do think she will have to have the field against her be all male to get the nomination, but that isn't a high bar to get over- you just have to have the ammunition to force the other women out by hook or by crook. I assume the Clinton organization has plenty of that. My theory all along has been that Michelle Obama will be forced into the race just to prevent Clinton from winning the nomination.
"Many miles away something crawls from the slime
At the bottom of a dark Scottish lake"
-- I mean, I don't like Clinton either -- but she *did* win the popular vote.
The state of California gave her the 'win' in the popular vote. That was the margin. California.
That's not winning formula for a country with 50 states.
@bagoh2o: “Turtling” is more apt. Cf. Urban Dictionary.
She looks like she's underwater and has finally accepted there is no way back up.
Dems would be better off running Bernie Sanders. “Hillary Derangement Syndrome” would absolutely destroy the nation.
Blogger MikeR said...
"....but she *did* win the popular vote...."? 7/8/18, 8:11 AM
Mike math is not your strong suit? Hillary and Bill never achieved majority numbers when they ran for President. For Hillary got axed because of Johnson/Stein, etc., and Bill got axed because of Perot.
But we all know that it is very hard not to believe in the "Propaganda" narrative pushed by the MSM and the Democratic losers.
"The state of California gave her the 'win' in the popular vote. That was the margin. California.
That's not winning formula for a country with 50 states."
-- It's still hugely different from "no one is going to vote for Clinton."
Clinton in a field of no-name Democrats would be very difficult to beat in the primaries. In a field of no-name Democratic men, maybe impossible to beat.
I know there are many Democrats who claim they didn't vote for her or didn't want to, but those are probably lies after the fact of her loss.
“That's not winning formula for a country with 50 states.”
That sort of ballot box cheating was just beta tested in California. Expect a few more electoral surprises this year.
she can run, but she cant hide.
(actually, she can barely walk, and many wish she would disappear)
Would she have to run? They could just nominate and elect her by acclimation.
What is making this let's tout Hillary for 2020 week? She's all over the place. Must be the PR crew feeling they need to earn their pay. I predict that she'll be dead or incapacitated before 2020. ( Boy, talk about "wishin' and a hopin"!)
Huma's practicing her hand-truck skills.
The Hillary tout is just a threat to Democrats that they'd better come up with a candidate.
How can the leftwing radicals change the way we vote so that she is guaranteed HER-> win?
They are working on it. Vilification propaganda against the electoral college is a start. We must dismantle everything for the corrupt leftwing.
The depiction of Hillary, basking in Allah's diffuse light, looks upon G_d anointing her 2020 run is deplorable wet dream clique bate
Obama still has time to trans-gender and become a new different person to claim 2 more terms? Or will new DOB / T make him too young??!!
She will never make it through that tunnel, flooded or not flooded. She will have to be left behind.
Gonna need a hologram to make all the rallys.
With Hillary, isn't it always about the money?
I don't think Hillary has any intention of running, but looking at how many speaking engagements she has outside the country, I do think she would find it profitable to have some lucrative confusion about the matter.
If Hillary steps out of politics, she also steps outside of the money stream, so I think we will see her dog-paddling along out there just so long as she physically can do it.
I'd like to se HRC run just to see her lose again. God the past 20 months or so have been damn entertaining!
The thing about California in 2016 is that there weren't any Republicans running for state wide office downballot from Trump. And it was obvious voting for Trump there was useless. There was literally no reason whatsoever for conservatives in CA to vote that day. That makes the huge margin Hillary added there pretty meaningless.
SHE-> won't go away. As needed.
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