June 26, 2018

My Congressman, Mark Pocan, proposes eliminating ICE and "a commission to provide recommendations" for "a humane immigration enforcement system that upholds the dignity of all individuals."

The Wisconsin State Journal reports.
“During my trip to the southern border, it was clear that ICE, and its actions of hunting down and tearing apart families, has wreaked havoc on far too many people," Pocan said.

"Unfortunately," Pocan continued, "President Trump and his team of white nationalists, including Stephen Miller, have so misused ICE that the agency can no longer accomplish its goals effectively."
Here's the reaction from the newspapers' readers — mainly (I think!) us liberal Madisonian:



To be fair to Pocan, maybe all those mad faces are not mad at him for proposing eliminating law enforcement and studying what could be done instead. Maybe some of them are mad at the inhumanity Pocan envisions triumphing over (or mad because he's making it too easy for the GOP to sell the argument that Democrats want open borders).

61 comments:

Ken B said...

“White nationalists”. It's like a form of Tourette's. They are behind the push to end quotas on Asians too.

Fernandinande said...

It's a shame when entire families are torn apart by something as simple as feral dogs.

chickelit said...

But Democrats do want open borders. I’m not seeing any of them running against open borders. The reason is that the Dem candidates are beholdered to their donors who all want open borders. Dems need to import a new set of donors.

Tommy Duncan said...

"“During my trip to the southern border, it was clear that ICE, and its actions of hunting down and tearing apart families, has wreaked havoc on far too many people," Pocan said.

"Unfortunately," Pocan continued, "President Trump and his team of white nationalists, including Stephen Miller, have so misused ICE that the agency can no longer accomplish its goals effectively."


Nice to find a Democrat who is calmly dialing down the rhetoric.

Well, I'm off on a busy day of suppressing minority voters, exercising my white privilege, oppressing women and destroying the environment.

Original Mike said...

A commission? Really? What a cop-out.

I haven’t heard one Democrat offer a solution to the border problem. They don’t have one.

Sebastian said...

I support the effort. To keep families together, the humane priority of all right-thinking people, we should institute immediate removal of any group of illegals. Even the risk of being separated for any reason in racist Amerikkka is intolerable.

chickelit said...

“Dems need to import a new set of donors.”

Or better, get off the Soros teat. The man has grown permanent bags under his eyes from crying so much. Can you image how saggy his financial teats are?

jaydub said...

So, Madison is represented by an idiot. I would have never guessed.

Anonymous said...

There's nothing wrong with Wisconsin that 100,000 Mexicans can't fix.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

ICE stands for

Immigration and Customs Enforcement


Shall we replace it with: Open Borders & Cozy Free Welfare State & Drivers Licenses & Democrat Voter Registration Card Enrollment Enforcement?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I don't understand why so many people from failed socialist paradises would want to escape failed socialist paradises and enter Nazi White Supremacist Trumpland.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Just so long as we do not discuss the IG report.

chickelit said...

“Shall we replace it with: Open Borders & Cozy Free Welfare State & Drivers Licenses & Democrat Voter Registration Card Enrollment Enforcement?”

Shorter Dickin’: Don’t californicate Wisconsin.

FIDO said...

They are open borders. They are just dishonest about it.

David Docetad said...

I'm all for that, right after eliminating IRS, HUD, DOE (both of them), FBI, and the BATF.

Nonapod said...

I haven’t heard one Democrat offer a solution to the border problem. They don’t have one.

They don't want one. Or at least the one they really want (open borders with full amnesty and an quick unobstructed path to full citizenship) is unsellable to an overwhelming majority of the American public. And we're all expected to behave as if the thing they clearly want isn't actually what they really want, all while being accused of being white supremecists or something.

Curious George said...

Pocan wants open borders to cut down on his travel costs to have sex with underage Costa Rican boys.

Original Mike said...

“Or at least the one they really want (open borders with full amnesty and an quick unobstructed path to full citizenship) is unsellable to an overwhelming majority of the American public.”

So we’ll convene a “commission” to obfuscate our intentions.

Tommy Duncan said...

Tammy Baldwin had a "profiles in courage" moment regarding immigration recently on CNN:

Tammy Baldwin on Immigration

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hombre said...

“...he's making it too easy for the GOP to sell the argument that Democrats want open borders.”

Argument? If that’s not what they want, they are doing a piss poor job of showing otherwise. Rational people give the Democrats the benefit of the doubt because open borders is crazy and 10 or 15 years ago the Clintons, Reid, Schumer, Feinstein, et al, railed against illegal immigration.

Currently, however, the weight of the evidence - lawsuits, anti-wall, pro-amnesty, sanctuary cities, etc. - favors insanity. This proposed legislation is in that category. Democrats offer no alternative to open borders.

Democrats are insane.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Original Mike said...

I haven’t heard one Democrat offer a solution to the border problem.

That's because, to them, the border is the problem.

rhhardin said...

More humiliating and tearing apart, less border crossings. Advertise it more.

tommyesq said...

"During my trip to Washington DC, it was clear that the FBI, and its actions of hunting down and tearing apart political campaigns, has wreaked havoc on far too many people. Unfortunately, President Obama and his team of Soros-led Globalists, including James Comey, have so misused the FBI that the agency can no longer accomplish its goals effectively."

Fixed it for you.

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

Give it a try in your district first. Eliminate law enforcement (local police, county sheriff, and state police) in your district. Create a commission to consider humane treatment of home invaders. Let us know how that works out.

CWJ said...

Hammond,

That's exactly what Madison is tip toeing toward even as we write.

Rick.T. said...

As we used to tell our young nieces and nephews: "Use words!"

Leland said...

I just got back from a trip to Alaska which included a visit into Canada. Crossing into Canada, my passport was checked, but coming back, we just stopped and told ICE we had nothing to claim and drove right back into the US. Second, if Congress wants to do something about inhumane enforcement system; it should start with abolishing the TSA created by Bush. TSA is no more effective than with the airlines were running security, and 9-11 happening had less to do with lax airport security than a continuing viewpoint of how to handle hijackings. We are forgetting the lessons that Flight 93 learned real time that day. You have to fight back when confronted. Do that, and then you can have more open border.

Etienne said...

Bottom line: America needs migrant workers.

The migrants who came here legally every year, have lost their jobs to the cartels of human traffickers.

America needs to set the rules straight, and again let those who want to work in America work legally. Those who want to collect welfare should be ejected immediately without trial, without delay.

The Mexicans should have to pay for the process, as they allowed the crime to occur.

Virgil Hilts said...

I love the buttons. They would be useful at this blog (at least on an experimental basis until trolls figured out how to abuse them) when there are say 284 comments and you only want to read the interesting ones.

David Blaska said...

In its own way, as goofy as Maxine Waters. Mark Pocan was never a serious legislator. He fancies himself the Dick Tuck of Madison politics.

Etienne said...

We should find a way to get these school mass murderers to the border where they can shoot at something that can help protect our country. Those AR-15's, AK-47's, and buttstocks, are all perfect for the invading Spanish Army's.

Maybe pay them $50 per ear.

n.n said...

An end to social justice adventures, including elective regime changes, mass abortion fields, trail of tears (e.g. separation, abortion of children and parents). An end to a anti-nativism that has progressed globally under leftist advocacy. Emigration reform to address the causes of mass exodus and the conditions of children and parents left behind.

n.n said...

Immigration should not exceed the rate of assimilation and integration before Planned Parenthood. The alternative is detrimental to the health, welfare, and viability of both native and alien people.

n.n said...

“White nationalists” is a concept similar to "White privilege", both of which are inspired by the NAZIS in their concept of "Jew privilege" and its aftermath. That said, principles matter. And, for self-evident reasons, #BabyLivesMatter or should, and diversity or color judgments/discrimination is a progressive slope.

Darrell said...

One day, the Democrats will propose something that isn't intended to destroy the country.

Skippy Tisdale said...
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Etienne said...
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Skippy Tisdale said...

"Pocan continued, "President Trump and his team of white nationalists"

Oh, blow it out your ass, Mark.

Etienne said...

Most of Continental Europe has Open Borders.

What this means, is you can cross the border without a Visa or Passport.

You are expected to leave. You are expected to respect the culture you are visiting.

Open Borders doesn't mean "free immigration" it just means the borders are not walls and machine gun towers.

America should have open borders, but we should also make sure that the visitors leave.

One thing we must do is end Jus Soli (birthright citizenship). One of your parents must be a citizen before the child is born.

MacMacConnell said...

Rep. Pocan is right! Lets practice catch and release with a twist, all illegals caught will be bused to the second district in Madison and be released with a Starbucks voucher. I'm sure your wonderful government schools, hospitals and housing will do a stellar job. What say you Mr. Pocan, put your virtue signaling to the real test.

robother said...

"You are expected to leave. You are expected to respect the culture you are visiting."

Susanna Feldman was unavailable for comment.

Etienne said...
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Jim at said...

I haven’t heard one Democrat offer a solution to the border problem. They don’t have one.

Because they don't want one.

MayBee said...

So now it's ok to call the people in the White House a "team of white nationalists"?

And it's ok to call for the end of a Federal Law Enforcement Agency? That isn't the end of Democracy anymore, like it has been for the last 18 months?

MayBee said...

OMG, Tommy Duncan said...

That Tammy Baldwin link is hilarious (and sad)

Michael The Magnificent said...

"Well, I'm off on a busy day of suppressing minority voters, exercising my white privilege, oppressing women and destroying the environment."

Lucky, you! I've been assigned to kick puppies, starve grandmas so they have to eat cat food, forcing women to get pregnant and carry their babies to term (though I guess that does fall under 'oppressing women'), building monuments to the Confederacy, and refusing to bake wedding cakes for homosexuals

So much to do, so many to oppress!

rehajm said...

Well, I'm off on a busy day of suppressing minority voters, exercising my white privilege, oppressing women and destroying the environment.

Hell I had all that done before noon but I've just changed my opinion to align with Mr. Pocan's. Let's have open borders!

Tomorrow I will be vilified for trying to import cheap labor.

Fernandinande said...

"Well, I'm off on a busy day of suppressing minority voters, ..."

Lucky, you! I've been assigned to kick puppies, starve grandmas..


You guys got all the good stuff while I'm reduced to ironically asking Amerindians "where are you from?"

Original Mike said...

"Pocan continued, "President Trump and his team of white nationalists"”

Good grief. Pocan is my representative. I generally don’t pay attention to him, but that’s embarrassing.

Alex said...

I guess Ritmo is busy harassing Republican officials. That's why he isn't here.

Kevin said...

Schumer: [to Pelosi after getting his first good look at the great white wave of white working class voters up close while sifting through the election results] You're going to need a bigger influx of Latin American voters!

Kevin said...

“...he's making it too easy for the GOP to sell the argument that Democrats want open borders.”

Have we heard one Democrat in the last year argue for restricting immigration in any way?

They're blocking ICE from deporting illegals who've committed crimes.

The only complaints they've had are how unkindly the new "immigrants" have been treated upon arrival, and how Trump's Travel Ban kept even more people from coming.

Michael The Magnificent said...

You guys got all the good stuff while I'm reduced to ironically asking Amerindians "where are you from?"

I tell ya, it isn't easy work, what with having an extra chromosome, neanderthalic knuckles constantly dragging on the ground, a sloped forehead, and Putin's dick in my mouth. And all the goose stepping!

Kevin said...

Trump: I just- I just want to tell you what we're planning so far...

Schumer: What about the borders, Chief?

Trump: We're going to put on the extra- the extra summer deputies as quickly as possible, and then we're going to try and use, uh, crossing-spotters on the beach.

Mrs. Pelosi: [cuts him off] Are you going to close the borders?

Trump: [after brief pause] Yes, we are.

[townspeople erupt into dismayed argument]

Kevin said...

Quint: [Quint first scratches the chalk board to get everyone's attention] Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this border crosser for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad people. Not like going down the pond chasin' bluegills and tommycods. This migration, swallow you whole. Little shakin', little tenderizin', an' down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that'll bring back your tourists, put all your businesses on a payin' basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks, chief. I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him, and send him back to his home country, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's just too many captains on this island. $10,000 for me by myself. For that you get the invader, the sack with his possessions, the whole damn thing.

Big Mike said...

@Althouse, I can understand why you folks from Dane County are eager to get this idiot out of town, but did you have to send him to Congress to do do?

langford peel said...

You should be proud to be called a white nationalist.

White Nationalism is the only thing that can save this country. White nationalism of the Scotch Irish fighting frontiersman is what created this country.

Other races can of course be productive citizens. As long as they act white. They need to give up their culture. The blacks need to drop crime, drug abuse, single parent families and constant crimes of victimization and demands for a free ride. Go to school, study, stop with the "urban" "Hip Hop" bullshit and get your hair straightened. And pull your fucking pants up you look ridiculous.

Your Mexicans need to obey the law and come here legally and not steal the jobs from native Americans. Plus stop with those fucking churros. They suck. Eat regular Donuts like a fucking white American.

Your Asians are generally ok. They keep to themselves and study so that's good enough. Plus they will be bred out soon enough since all that slant eyed pussy would rather get a white guy instead of needled dick gook. So they will be bred out soon enough.

White supremacy will be our salvation.

Black supremacy would mean that Maxine Waters would be in charge.

rcocean said...

What a freak show the Democrat Party has become.

So, they want to get rid of the agency that enforces the immigration laws.

But they are NOT for open borders.

Yeah, figure that one out.

UnAmerican, Unpatriotic, Freaks.

320Busdriver said...

Sorry you have to suffer that fool as your rep.. he's one of a small group of people I follow on twitter. I do this for entertainment value only. But its Madison.