Althouse: A view of the Lake.

June 5, 2018

A view of the Lake.

Lake Monona, seen from Olbrich Garden.

This is an open thread. Say what you like!

92 comments:

Kate said...: A "zen view" is what Pattern Language would call it. One of my favorite concepts. Tranquility and intrigue combined.; 6/5/18, 8:50 AM
Allstarme79 said...: Just found your site through a google search for Borders bookstores. Great pics!; 6/5/18, 9:08 AM
Heartless Aztec said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/5/18, 9:13 AM
Heartless Aztec said...: Have spent several years thinking of bringing my beloved sailboat the English Rose up for a month for a camp out live aboard. It's a beautiful lake for sailing; 6/5/18, 9:14 AM
Heartless Aztec said...: Addendum: Maybe even take out a peddlers license and sell my sailing ships of history art along the waterfront if Madison allows that sort of thing...; 6/5/18, 9:18 AM
John Borell said...: Per Drudge, Miss America scraps swimsuit competition; No longer judge on physical appearance...

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/miss-america-scrapping-swimsuit-competition-longer-judge-based/story?id=55638426

They want to be inclusive. As someone says, go woke, go broke.

And I wish I was at a beautiful lake today.; 6/5/18, 9:20 AM
Rick.T. said...: Green, green, it's green they say
On the far side of the hill
Green, green, I'm going away
To where the grass is greener still

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfxgbsXeTdE

Written by Barry McGuire.; 6/5/18, 9:25 AM
Clyde said...: So it's like a Toblerone tunnel for trees?; 6/5/18, 9:41 AM
traditionalguy said...: Another . Madisonian pic. When will Meade take you on a summer road trip in his new car? Times a wasting.; 6/5/18, 9:43 AM
Clyde said...: John Borell said...
Per Drudge, Miss America scraps swimsuit competition; No longer judge on physical appearance...

Obviously they will have to allow in the differently-visaged and the horizontally-challenged if they want to be inclusive. After all, why should a so-called "beauty contest" cater to patriarchal standards of physical attractiveness?; 6/5/18, 9:47 AM
Mike Sylwester said...: CNN made a big deal about President Trump tweeting in anticipation of the Labor Department's new unemployment statistics. CNN declared authoritatively that no other President ever had said anything in anticipation of the new statistics.

CNN has become the buffoon news channel.

Watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE7MZhSFF8g; 6/5/18, 10:05 AM
rehajm said...: Maybe even take out a peddlers license and sell my sailing ships of history art along the waterfront if Madison allows that sort of thing

Since it's a liberal enclave if you forego the license and feign vagrancy you'll be just fine.; 6/5/18, 10:07 AM
rhhardin said...: I think Miss Congeniality (Sandra Bullock) had a beauty contest plot. A boyfriend somehow emerged out of it.

He was dropped by telephone in Miss Congenialty II in the first minute. They decided on a new direction.

There was no Miss Congeniality III.; 6/5/18, 10:09 AM
Bay Area Guy said...: I am looking forward to this summer. I wanna work out more, bbq more, go on more hikes, watch my kid's football practices, watch my other kid's beach volleyball camp, play more guitar, and write more.

Yeah, I still get bogged down with the minutia of work, chores, files, meetings, emails, but who doesn't? The key is to elevate above the mundane!; 6/5/18, 10:17 AM
Curious George said...: The left has no conscience and no limits.; 6/5/18, 10:27 AM
madAsHell said...: I wanna work out more, bbq more, go on more hikes, watch my kid's football practices, watch my other kid's beach volleyball camp, play more guitar, and write more.

I'm fairly certain that NONE of those activities are on your honey-do list. The moment that I pluck a guitar string is the moment that my honey-do list gets longer.

Let me burst another bubble for you.....After the kids leave the house, you're not going to be fucking-like-bunnies again. Of course, if you do manage to corral that unicorn, then more power to you!!; 6/5/18, 10:32 AM
pacwest said...: Everybody loves them some green. It's in our DNA I think.; 6/5/18, 10:42 AM
Bay Area Guy said...: Stop trying to rain on my parade! It never rains in Southern California.

Got on board a westbound seven forty seven
Didn't think before deciding what to do
Ooh, that talk of opportunities, TV breaks and movies
Rang true, sure rang trueSeems it never rains in southern California
Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before
It never rains in California, but girl don't they warn ya
It pours, man it pours

By the way, Bay Area Gal is planning a trip for us to Italy, but that's next summer. So, there.; 6/5/18, 10:44 AM
Michael K said...: We are sitting in a motorhome in Idaho, camped out.

Visiting our daughter and her mountain dream spot.; 6/5/18, 10:48 AM
Otto said...: " Every body loves the color green"
We did a survey of military pilots to determine what is the most pleasing color to their eye so that we could determine what display tube phosphor to use ( this was back in the mid 60s). The most pleasing color was green! Also note that green is right in the middle of the light spectrum.; 6/5/18, 10:53 AM
Sarah from VA said...: Georgia O'Keefe might start painting this picture and then say, "Nah, too obvious."; 6/5/18, 11:13 AM
gilbar said...: "We are sitting in a motorhome in Idaho, camped out."

lucky you! hope you brought your fly rods; those trouts won't catch themselves!; 6/5/18, 11:18 AM
Michael K said...: Gretchen Carlson, in her new role as a SJW, is killing off the Miss America thing.

Maybe she could take over the Roseanne show.; 6/5/18, 11:23 AM
daskol said...: got married against a backdrop like that, although it was a river not a lake behind it. happy is green, and optimism is orange, and we had orange drapery on some of the shrubbery. beautiful picture.; 6/5/18, 11:24 AM
daskol said...: Michael K: question re Miss America. Do pageants make any sense anymore? If getting rid of the swimsuit competition and renaming it a competition and otherwise undermining the event ruins it, is that bad? The corporations that own it lose some money for doing something stupid, if this is indeed stupid.

The pageant itself is a strange, retrograde spectacle to me to see women parading around play-acting a bygone form of male-gaze inspired femininity. Ball gowns, bathing suits, talents, answering usually silly questions--it really is weird. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But if you want to see hot chicks in bathing suits, there's the Victoria's Secret televised fashion show. Much better looking since entry is based on a narrower set of talents, making the contestants very well suited indeed for the spectacle. Women in ball gowns can be found in society pages, and talented women are all over the other competitions on TV. Women answering silly questions...the View? The Real? It's definitely getting harder and harder to find a woman wearing a crown, which is the crowning moment of that strange spectacle. But that princess crap isn't all that cool anyway.; 6/5/18, 11:46 AM
66 said...: For your reading pleasure, a typically thoughtful and nuanced analysis of recent events by David Corn.

Key quotes:

"The Russia scandal is the most important scandal in the history of the United States."

"Do you even have enough string or enough space on the bulletin board?"; 6/5/18, 12:01 PM
Michael K said...: It's definitely getting harder and harder to find a woman wearing a crown, which is the crowning moment of that strange spectacle. But that princess crap isn't all that cool anyway.

I've never really paid attention but I have read that the women in the programs thought they got a lot of benefit.

The shift to "Patriarchy is Bad" stuff is very unlikely to do them any good,. Engineering programs are now being watered down to prevent hurt feelings.

Four Otterbein University professors suggest that women may be averse to STEM fields because they feel they work harder than male students without earning higher grades.

After conducting a study of 828 students in STEM classes, the professors discovered that while women felt they put more effort into their classes than men, they received approximately equivalent grades, which “indicates that women's higher perceived effort levels are not rewarded."

Feelings will not build a bridge that does not collapse and kill people.

The media is running fast away from a story about women engineers.

In an apparent attempt to connect women executives to the accident, the stories use a legitimate quote from Leonor Flores, a female project executive for MCM, that was published in a story on Florida International University’s website before the collapse.

Flores, who is a university alumna, spoke of sharing her line of work with her 12-year-old daughter as they watched the installation of the 950-ton pedestrian bridge, which was intended to connect the university’s campus and the city of Sweetwater.

“It’s very important for me as a woman and an engineer to be able to promote that to my daughter because I think women have a different perspective,” Flores said. “We’re able to put in an artistic touch and we’re able to build too.”; 6/5/18, 12:07 PM
Hagar said...: The Miss America beauty contest will go forward - but judging the contestants on their appearance will be strictly prohibited.

So have the Democrats reached peak silliness yet?; 6/5/18, 12:09 PM
n.n said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/5/18, 12:10 PM
n.n said...: Gretchen Carlson, in her new role as a SJW, is killing off the Miss America thing

The goal seems to be inspired by a denial of human evolution a la Pro-Choice, a progressive conflation (PC) of sexes (female and male genetic identity), and progressive convergence (PC) of gender attributes (feminine and masculine mental and physical traits). Only then will there be political congruence (PC).; 6/5/18, 12:12 PM
Etienne said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/5/18, 12:12 PM
Etienne said...: Kathleen Dehmlow (Pancho) died recently. Her obituary said she abandoned her family, when she got knocked-up by her husbands brother. She moved to California and left her family behind.

The Children wrote: "She will not be missed by Gina and Jay, and they understand that this world is a better place without her."

No mention of the father, who was last seen in Cleveland.

The poets tell how Pancho fell;
Lefty's living in a cheap hotel

The desert's quiet; Cleveland's cold
So the story ends, we're told

Pancho needs your prayers, it's true
But save a few for Lefty, too

He just did what he had to do
Now he's growing old; 6/5/18, 12:13 PM
Limited blogger said...: Trump cancelled Eagles visit to WH to celebrate Super Bowl win.

Of course, Trump is a Patriot fan.; 6/5/18, 12:14 PM
walter said...: Blogger Michael K said...Gretchen Carlson, in her new role as a SJW, is killing off the Miss America thing.
--
Because her career trajectory had nothing to do with her looks.
It will be interesting to see if this becomes truly inclusive..or if there will just be unspoken judging on appearance.; 6/5/18, 12:28 PM
daskol said...: n.n. if they ban the Victoria's Secret fashion show from television, or even more ominously (for Victoria's Secret and the network who owns the broadcast rights) allow it but ban underwear and bathing suits, that would be a clear conflation of things that suggested an utter upending of the sense of all things. you can go see nude girls walking around at a strip club, but we don't need that crap on TV. this looks to me like the beginning of the end of an anachronistic icon whose peak cultural relevance past decades ago. probably after one of the winners posed in Playboy. sold a lot of issues, but put paid the currency of the crown. that the coup de grace is being delivered by the politically confused as part of the broader Attack of the Single Loopers is ugly, but shaming is rarely pretty. some people deserve. absent the bygone cultural institutions of nicer times past, shame is what we've got. sometimes it goes after Pogo and Roseanne, and sometimes it goes after Bill Clinton. and sometimes, and these are the most enjoyable times to me, they go after moribund institutions already on their heels, and the process ends up diminishing the power base of some of the most retrograde forces in the country. some bloggers call it "leftist autophagy" but the leftist thing doesn't fit precisely here. but it's hurting monied interests who don't have public interest in mind, and broadcast media interests who these days undermine the public discourse and aren't even interesting to look at. and the pageants really are weird, as are all the feeder pageants across the country, and the moms who encourage their daughters to participate and thereby forgo other more nourishing pursuits. good riddance to the crown.; 6/5/18, 12:37 PM
Fabi said...: "So have the Democrats reached peak silliness yet?"

"For your reading pleasure, a typically thoughtful and nuanced analysis of recent events by David Corn."

No.; 6/5/18, 12:38 PM
Big Mike said...: @Althouse, for some reason I can only succeed in posting about a quarter of the comments I try to post when I am using my iPhone. Most come back with a message about an internal error. This is true whether I'm at home using my wifi router or someplace else using a hot spot or even if I'm at a place where there is no wifi.

Any ideas? Or is this just a problem related to the moderation problems you allude to.; 6/5/18, 12:45 PM
daskol said...: Big Mike, Apple (and Kanye) want you to put your phone down. It's a bit presumptuous of Apple to just say this of you--internal error--but is could it be you who has the phone problem, and not Althouse? Apple seems to be suggesting that on multiple fronts. Strange for a company that sells phones.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/06/04/ios-12-will-help-you-fight-your-phone-addiction/; 6/5/18, 12:51 PM
FWBuff said...: The news just announced that Kate Spade committed suicide. What a sad story! She was extremely talented and built up a valuable business. And in a way, like Roseanne, this selfish action on her part will have all sorts of repercussions on the hundreds of people who worked for her.; 6/5/18, 12:54 PM
Michael K said...: McConnell has just cancelled the Senate's August recess.

LLR chuck most affected.; 6/5/18, 1:01 PM
walter said...: daskol,
Think PR/virtue signalling...like the "drink responsibly" text on alcohol ads.
I use my Android phone to listen to radio. Somewhere around a couple hours it will decide to reduce volume by half and display a warning about listening too loud. Of course, by that time the damage would be done.; 6/5/18, 1:01 PM
daskol said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/5/18, 1:08 PM
daskol said...: those who signal virtue are signalling something very useful indeed. usually it's their lack of it. it's often a matter of short time before the Attack of the Single Loopers gets them. my favorite recent example is AG Eric Schneiderman jumping on the #METOO bandwagon only to self-defenstrate 48 hours into his 2 minutes of shame. that's the accelerated cognitive cycle of the collective hive mind at work.; 6/5/18, 1:09 PM
Big Mike said...: @daskol, I asked Althouse because of her remark about lost comments through moderation. I'm also hoping that someone else has seen a problem like this and knows a workaround.

I'm pretty sure it isn't me or a setting on the phone because some comments do get through and get posted.; 6/5/18, 1:09 PM
daskol said...: the collective hive mind was slow on Bill Clinton, but he had a lot of clout.; 6/5/18, 1:12 PM
daskol said...: Big Mike, was just kidding. I can hardly get the CAPTCHAs working on my android. phones have a long way to go to replace PCs and even tablets. I hate typing on them.; 6/5/18, 1:14 PM
Etienne said...: “All of a sudden, a crocodile jumped out of the lake and ate the pastor.”

The nice thing about being a Catholic, is we don't dunk. Catholics like to sprinkle their Holy Water.

Plus, there are no animals big enough to eat you in the baptismal font.

"You ever meet a Protestant Eskimo?"

No.

"That's right, Eskimo's don't ever immerse themselves in water!"; 6/5/18, 1:20 PM
Original Mike said...: ”McConnell has just cancelled the Senate's August recess.”

Good. While I generally adhere to the notion that the less Congress does the better, at the moment there is a ton of stuff that needs doing.

Do your fuckin’ job, Congress.; 6/5/18, 1:22 PM
Churchy LaFemme: said...: Saw "Solo" last night. I was expecting something awful, but it's really a good movie. I don't care if the Star Wars head honchette is a SJW or whatever, the delight in conservative circles at the low box-office for this one is not our proudest moment.; 6/5/18, 1:24 PM
rhhardin said...: Beauty contests are watched by women, not by men. Whether women want to hear women talk is an open question.; 6/5/18, 1:33 PM
rehajm said...: Saw "Solo" last night. I was expecting something awful, but it's really a good movie.

Great! Something to look forward to watching on my living room couch in a few months...; 6/5/18, 1:34 PM
BUMBLE BEE said...: Google Letitia Chai Cornell thesis. You won't believe it!; 6/5/18, 1:45 PM
Heartless Aztec said...: @rehajm - You are correct. If you have means and money you will be harrassed and fined. If you are itinerant, poor and/or shiftless you'll just be left alone or swept along with no consequences.; 6/5/18, 1:45 PM
Drago said...: Unknown: "Saw "Solo" last night. I was expecting something awful, but it's really a good movie."

The movie was terrible.

It was as if there were multiple parties providing completely different visions.....oh, right. There were.

Han Solo was in the Imperial troopers for 3 years.....and we know nothing about it.
Han Solo speaks Wookie, but we have no idea how or why.
Han Solo wants more than anything to get a starship to return to his lost love on his home planet....but for 3 years (in the troopers) is unable to...until he hooks up with a criminal who takes him to a much bigger criminal where "voila!" the girlfriend just happens to be!

What a horrific movie. And the numbers proves the public recognizes it too.; 6/5/18, 1:50 PM
daskol said...: rhhardin: excellent point. women, or a spokesman of theirs, lead a movement to destroy the ratings of the preeminent pageant. we men should sit back and see whether the answer to your question reveals itself. most women mostly paid to talk on tv (not read news, talk) to mostly women audiences are heavier and a bit homelier than pageant contestants.; 6/5/18, 1:51 PM
madAsHell said...: By the way, Bay Area Gal is planning a trip for us to Italy, but that's next summer.

Maybe you will corral that unicorn!!; 6/5/18, 2:05 PM
tim in vermont said...: After conducting a study of 828 students in STEM classes, the professors discovered that while women felt they put more effort into their classes than men, they received approximately equivalent grades, which “indicates that women’s higher perceived effort levels are not rewarded."

Ha ha ha! This is a legitimate complaint if you accept the “Labor Theory of Value.”; 6/5/18, 2:16 PM
langford peel said...: Political correctness and the social justice warriors have gotten out of control. It is deadly.

They were so outraged that Kate Spade had a name that made fun of black people that they set up a twitter campaign that forced her to commit suicide.

Michelle Obama called up personally to demand that she kill herself.

To quote a famous black criminal "Why can't we all just get along?"; 6/5/18, 2:17 PM
tim in vermont said...: NFL team: “This guy is six five, runs a four three forty, has hands that seem like they have octopus suckers on them, and could dunk a basketball if the rim was at the top of the backboard, On the other hand, this other guy works really really hard every day at practice and does every I ask him to do, except of course if I ask him to run forty yards in four point three seconds....”

Labor Theory of Value says we use our number one pick on the second guy! It’s done then!; 6/5/18, 2:32 PM
n.n said...: higher perceived effort levels are not rewarded

There is a correlation between perception and reality, with variable degrees of independence.; 6/5/18, 2:36 PM
n.n said...: Struggle or effort is congruent to performance.; 6/5/18, 2:38 PM
Limited blogger said...: Watching CNBC. They are running non-stop campaign ads for Howard Schultz 2020.; 6/5/18, 2:53 PM
narayanan said...: You don't need to show boobs.
how much longer before - You don't need to have vayjay.; 6/5/18, 3:07 PM
Humperdink said...: "Watching CNBC. They are running non-stop campaign ads for Howard Schultz 2020."

He will bring binders full of social justice ideas. He is the one we've been waiting for (part 2).; 6/5/18, 3:11 PM
Jim at said...: the delight in conservative circles at the low box-office for this one is not our proudest moment.

I see. So, we're supposed to cheer those who've openly expressed hatred towards us?

Nope.

I wish for every Hollywood movie to tank at the box office.; 6/5/18, 3:23 PM
Original Mike said...: “...that while women felt they put more effort into their [STEM] classes than men, they received approximately equivalent grades, which “indicates that women’s higher perceived effort levels are not rewarded."”

I also believed that I put more effort into my couse work than some of my classmates. I took it as a sign that they were smarter than I was.; 6/5/18, 3:24 PM
rehajm said...: I watched Schultz on CNBC this morning. He said multiple times he doesn't like our standing in the world'. Great- another asshole that thinks everyone else has it right and the US has it wrong. Those other nations are currently being sucked along in our giant economic contrails. How about we let them catch up a bit before we fuck it all up again?; 6/5/18, 3:29 PM
rehajm said...: Two econ data points today:

-SS dipping into reserves this year.

-Job openings outnumber unemployed for the first time since records have been kept. (began in 2000)...; 6/5/18, 3:32 PM
rehajm said...: ABC Roseanne replacement comedy-drama pilot idea: Masterpiece Cakeshop Theatre; 6/5/18, 3:39 PM
narayanan said...: "if you accept the “Labor Theory of Value.”

you can watch Tim Allen making one and conclude how one toothpick is as valuable as truckload of them.; 6/5/18, 3:40 PM
Churchy LaFemme: said...: Drago:

Unknown: "Saw "Solo" last night. I was expecting something awful, but it's really a good movie."

The movie was terrible.

Well, obviously I disagree. You can certainly pull up the same sorts of plot nits in the original Trilogy, (as with "Empire" screenwriter Brackett's "The Big Sleep); you just have to be carried along. (And Han always spoke Wookie without explanation).

Jim:

I wish for every Hollywood movie to tank at the box office.

Not me. I like movies. If SWJ-ness ruins the movie itself, that's too bad -- otherwise, I don't really care if the cast and producers are ruining *themselves* with SWJ-ness.; 6/5/18, 3:42 PM
Jon Ericson said...: RE: Mitch McConnell [@SenateMajLdr ] canceling the August Recess here; 6/5/18, 4:08 PM
wildswan said...: You know you're coastie

When the beauty pageant isn't about beauty
When football isn't about football
When diversity and inclusion on the show Roseanne doesn't include the person Roseanne, even as diversity.

and it all looks good to you; 6/5/18, 5:42 PM
madAsHell said...: Hey!! It's almost seven back east, and we haven't heard any leaks from the closed door testimony.; 6/5/18, 5:48 PM
FullMoon said...: Putin is a wily bastard. It is clear he colluded with Trump for some reason to lower taxes and lower un employment across the board, especially for black, brown and women. Drudge says more job openings than available workers.
Not sure of the long range repercussions but most certainly something bad will come of it.; 6/5/18, 6:04 PM
FullMoon said...: madAsHell said...

Hey!! It's almost seven back east, and we haven't heard any leaks from the closed door testimony.
Any Dems in the room?; 6/5/18, 6:05 PM
FIDO said...: Why do they hate men so much that most of their shirts are too short?

Almost all of my polos are too short even in the XL catagory; 6/5/18, 7:19 PM
DavidD said...: FIDO,

L.L.Bean Tall shirts are plenty long enough. Much longer than Land’s End Tall shirts, for instance.; 6/5/18, 7:55 PM
Marshall Rose said...: McCabe now wants immunity.; 6/5/18, 8:02 PM
Drago said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/5/18, 8:16 PM
Drago said...: Unknown: "You can certainly pull up the same sorts of plot nits in the original Trilogy"

LOL

"nits"

I prefer "vast swaths of nonsense and incoherence"; 6/5/18, 8:16 PM
Bad Lieutenant said...: Does he, now? Well, well, and what is the proffer? This isn't Obama Time, you don't get immunity for bupkes anymore. He's gonna have to cough up someone bigger than himself.; 6/5/18, 8:17 PM
Drago said...: The marketplace has already rendered its judgement on "Solo".

It's an absolute hot mess disaster for Disney.

Disney has decided it's purpose in life is the destruction of franchises.

Because of course it is...; 6/5/18, 8:18 PM
Drago said...: Marshall Rose: "McCabe now wants immunity."

Careful now.

You are liable to "trigger" our #StrongDurbinBlumenthalDefender LLR Chuck with that kind of observation.; 6/5/18, 8:19 PM
tim in vermont said...: McCabe now wants immunity.

Well, why is Cheryl Mills any better than him?; 6/5/18, 8:40 PM
tim in vermont said...: Almost all of my polos are too short even in the XL catagory

Well, you have to shop around and be willing to part with some money.; 6/5/18, 8:41 PM
Gahrie said...: Almost all of my polos are too short even in the XL category

By the XLTs instead...they're cut longer and cost the same.; 6/5/18, 9:07 PM
Original Mike said...: ”McCabe now wants immunity.”

Who would trust him?; 6/5/18, 9:07 PM
tim in vermont said...: By the XLTs instead...they’re cut longer and cost the same

Yeah, but do they cost the same as cheap polos? I have never seen XLTs in stores, but usually if I buy polos at Nordstroms, or whatever, they are long enough.

My latest discovery on polos is to wear a wife-beater under it. I feel like they look better for some reason.; 6/5/18, 9:27 PM
Drago said...: OM: "Who would trust him?"

LLR Chuck, certainly. Unless the dems pull the old switcheroo, in which case LLR Chuck wouldnt.

Pay close attention to what Maddow is saying for an early heads up on LLR Chucks next "principled" position....

LOL; 6/5/18, 10:04 PM
Sprezzatura said...: How about not having a big fat gut?; 6/5/18, 10:14 PM
FIDO said...: It is less the gut and more the shoulders.

Do you know the difference between male fashion and men's fashion? (of course you don't)

Muscles.

So I can see why most male designers do 'male fashion' and not 'men's' fashion: they don't know the difference either.; 6/6/18, 3:45 AM