May 26, 2018

"In Portland, Ore., organizers of the 'Reparations Happy Hour' invited black, brown and indigenous people to a bar and handed them $10 bills as they arrived..."

"... a small but symbolic gift mostly funded by white people who were asked not to attend.... 'It was only $10, but when I saw them I saw their eyes light up,' he said. 'What I saw there was that people felt like they were finally seen.'"

The NYT reports.

So let's see... white people get off making black people "light up" by handing them money — a 10 dollar bill.

Portlandia.

ADDED: What if men at a bar funded the practice of offering a $10 bill to women who would come in? I guess some women would step up to take the bill, but I assume a lot of women, like me, would scoff and think you are so pathetic and quit insulting me.

ALSO: This reminds me of those affirmative action bake sales where opponents of affirmative action offer cookies for sale for, say, $1 if you're black and $5 if you are white. Except liberals rankle at that.

131 comments:

R C Belaire said...

Someone hands me $10 my eyes might light up as well.

Gahrie said...

So let's see... white people get off making black people "light up" by handing them money.

That describes Leftwing policies since the 1930's. Just more transfer of other people's wealth designed to make you feel superior.

And blatantly racist by the way. Try holding an event where you give White people free money and tell people of color they can't attend.

rhhardin said...

Inflation. The time is gone when you could offer an policeman a shiny dime to beat a speeding ticket.

tcrosse said...

Ten bucks is cheap for an indulgence to expiate White Guilt. Think of it as a down payment.

Wince said...

Translation: here's $10, ignore any actual economic progress and still vote 85+% against Trump for us white liberals, mmm-kay.

Ryan said...

We're they supposed to spend the money at the bar? If so, it goes right back into the evil hands of whitey.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

People light up when you hand them free money? huh. Who knew?

Leland said...

$10 per vote is a lot cheaper than advertisement.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Have Bill, Hillary, Barbara Streisand, George Clintonopolis, chuck Todd, The on air cast at MSNBC, most of hollywood, Tom Steyer, George Soros, and George Clooney hand out 10,000 each. 100,000 each.

Come on rich white leftists. Do it.

Lyle said...

The supremacy of white is powerful in Portland. Everyone looks and acts the same there. Very monolithic culture.

John McWhorter has new piece in the American Interest called "Atonement as Activism". He notices the very same thing.

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2018/05/24/atonement-as-activism/

gspencer said...

TEN DOLLARS, MAYBE THEY'LL GO TO THE MOVIES BY THEMSELVES

TWICE,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WMErc1n6Ks

Bob Boyd said...

If Rachael Dolezal showed up would she get ten bucks? Five?
Or would they give her the boot?

Sal said...

Coincidentally, a bottle of Olympia at the bar cost $10.

rhhardin said...

Selling liquor to Indians is amusing. Here's $10, chief.

Darrell said...

I sent in 100 people and had them say "Good, now I can buy that gun I was looking at" when they were handed the $10.

Unknown said...

Ever heard of "Ladies' Night" Ann?

rhhardin said...

A more modern system would offer a line of credit at the bar.

Ken B said...

Was this at the Tetzel cafe?

Sebastian said...

So, did the colored people offer to pay restitution for all the things invented and all the wealth created and all the lives sacrificed by whites that have enabled them to live longer and better than any other group in history? Or is this just about racist white people stigmatizing colored people as takers?

etbass said...

Do you think the Demos might offer reparations in their pitch for the mid terms?

Sal said...

but when I saw them I saw their eyes light up

Because it was the first time and it was unexpected. See how their eyes light up when they expect it and you're not in a money-giving mood.

Gahrie said...

but I assume a lot of women, like me, would scoff and think you are so pathetic and quit insulting me.

Yeah..women are known for that type of thing which is why no bar offers free admission to women while charging men.....and no one goes to the bars that do do so.

Michael K said...

Forget it, Jake, it's Portland.

Amexpat said...

I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more
No, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more
Well, he hands you a nickel
He hands you a dime
He asks you with a grin
If you're havin' a good time
Then he fines you every time you slam the door
I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more

Rob said...

So the whites pay the POC to comgregate at a particular bar, allowing the whites to socialize at a different bar free of POC. I think I’ve seen this movie before.

Derek Kite said...

Didn't early settlers do that? Here is a bottle of liquor, we are friends.

Wince said...

Rt1 Rebel said...
Ever heard of "Ladies' Night" Ann?


You mean the procurement of pliant female flesh with discounted drinks by the establishment for the satisfaction of more dominant males?

Fernandinande said...

Evil white supremacist #1 wonders: "How can we get those darned POCs to hold up pictures of Alexander Hamilton?"

traditionalguy said...

Indulgences for sale. Get the $10 introductory Indulgence today. But you will have to sign up for is the 60 year contract that can be extended by the any extension of the Voting Rights Act that applies to certified bad States only. God forbid you don't feel guilt anymore.

The Drill SGT said...

Random thoughts?

1. Blacks in Portland? Oregon is one of the least black states in the country. 2/3 of the blacks live in Portland, but they are a population that arrived during WW2. In 1940, Portland had 300,000 people and 2000 blacks.

2. Reparation to Browns? what's with that? Blacks and Indians, there might be a rationale.

3. Why not Viets? Portland may have the largest density of Viets in the country. Arguably, they are refugees or children of refugees. The US liberals, created the refugees when we reneged on our promises to support them when the NVA broke the peace treaty.


Steve M. Galbraith said...

As John McWhorter points out, these acts aren't supposed to really fight racism; they're done for white progressives to feel good about themselves, to receive absolution, even if only temporarily, from their sins. The scarlet "A" is worn with pride and not shame.

It is very much like a religion.

Luke Lea said...

Living in America is reparations enough. To be a free citizen of the richest, freest society in history -- what greater privilege than that? But the thing is, even if you are privileged, you have to do something with it to succeed in being happy. Success isn't a given. Look at what happens to lottery winners.

James Graham said...

Of course the Times does not allow comments on this "news."

Why trust a paper that decides whether or not any comments are allowed?

bleh said...

To a certain segment of whites, black, brown and indigenous people are like young children. Anyone whose “eyes light up” because they got a $10 bill has very little or no pride. Are they victims of a natural disaster? It’s offensive.

Fritz said...

Crumbs . . .

Darrell said...

Anyone whose “eyes light up” because they got a $10 bill has very little or no pride.

My eyes light up when I find stuff in the clearance section at 75% off.

Unknown said...

no amount of money will close the debt

because some

"need to be owed"

Big Mike said...

I think Gahrie has your number, Professor. Sorry ‘bout that, but (as Meade would tell you!) you are not like most women and you should not generalize from your own reaction.

Fernandinande said...

"The next one, Whitten said, will be at the Back to Eden Bakery, where a black woman was kicked out earlier this month by a pair of employees who have since been fired."

Wow! That sounds like international news, even if she was "kicked out" because they were...."closed".

tim in vermont said...

This post is among the reasons Althouse is digital crack.

robother said...

When I was 10, I was waiting for a City bus after school. I looked downing the storm drain and saw a $10 bill. I broke off a long thin branch of a tree and fished it out. I was so excited, I ran back to my cousin's house to show everyone and missed my bus. Good to hear a sawbuck can still light up someone's face.

Ambrose said...

"OK, person of color, here's your $10. We good? Now, will you please just SHUT UP."

Original Mike said...

What if men at a bar funded the practice of offering a $10 bill to women who would come in? I guess some women would step up to take the bill, but I assume a lot of women, like me, would scoff and think you are so pathetic and quit insulting me.“

Would you do it for $100? 1000?

Bad Lieutenant said...

I guess some women would step up to take the bill, but I assume a lot of women, like me, would scoff and think "you are so pathetic and quit insulting me" WHILE TAKING THE MONEY.


FIFY

PB said...

Virtue signalling BS.

FIDO said...

Incorrect Ms. Althouse. A woman will gladly take a $10 drink with a half hearted thank you, then snub said benefactor. This after soliciting the drink.

So not feeling that whole 'proud female' meme. It is like you have never been in a bar.

As Andrea in 'He Never Died' said about drinking w no money 'a vagina is like a credit card for alcohol'.

Ann Althouse said...

"So not feeling that whole 'proud female' meme. It is like you have never been in a bar."

I've never gone into a bar by myself and put myself in the position of seeming to be open to exchanges of money for any time with me.

I am completely off the prostitution scale, unlike the women you're talking about.

Ann Althouse said...

It's like the proud females have never been anywhere near you.

Michael K said...

"Portland may have the largest density of Viets in the country. "

Bigger than Orange County CA ?

Garden Grove is called "Little Saigon."

mockturtle said...

The difference between Portland, Oregon and the NYT is that Portland knows it's a parody.

Michael K said...

I've never gone into a bar by myself and put myself in the position of seeming to be open to exchanges of money for any time with me.

And never been there, of course, at 2 AM when the "Coyote Ugly" phase arrives.

Freeman Hunt said...

I'm sure Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. would have loved the idea of taking people assumed to be disadvantaged by race and using ten spots to lure them into a bar!

Gahrie said...

I am completely off the prostitution scale, unlike the women you're talking about.

We're talking about the vast majority of women...

The smug is strong today.

Gahrie said...

It's like the proud females have never been anywhere near you.

I've seen women abandon a lot more than pride at a BOGO shoe sale, let alone a chance of free drinks and attention from men.

Freeman Hunt said...

The vast majority of women hang out in bars?

Gahrie said...

The vast majority of women hang out in bars?

In my experience most have at one time or another.

Wince said...

tim in vermont said...
This post is among the reasons Althouse is digital crack.

Why stop at the crack?

Althouse is full on digital penetration!

Lucien said...

Anyone who showed up at that bar and took the money has no sense of shame. Any chance they were photographed, with the results posted online? It should have been called Te Nahisi Coates Night.

Fernandistein’s reference to the Back to Eden shop is classic Portlandia. Couldn’t happen to a nicer business, except for the employees who lost their jobs — but to make a truly diverse, inclusive and tolerant omelette. .

Original Mike said...

”I've never gone into a bar by myself... ”

Really? Never?

Bob Boyd said...

"Althouse is full on digital penetration!"

It's a body cavity search of the mind.

Etienne said...

Is it legal for the insane to drug the insane?

If one of them gets raped, will the bar provide reparations?

Etienne said...

A real peasant™ dances when offered $10 and a bar stool.

gilbar said...

" Why not Viets? Portland may have the largest density of Viets in the country. Arguably, they are refugees or children of refugees. The US liberals, created the refugees when we reneged on our promises to support them when the NVA broke the peace treaty."

I think you answered your own question. The refugees were, by definition, not in favor of communism. Thus, to US liberals; they were: THE ENEMY

If you were talking about NVA regulars, Portland would be totally in favor of them...
As Long As, like people of color, they remain hypothetical.
If there Was an influx of (either) NVA regulars (or people of color), you can bet your bottom dollar those liberals would be crying to Washington for HELP!

becauseIdbefired said...

If we must do reparations, we should do it by percentage of slave-owner DNA in each person.

And, the bar is treating minorities like Pavlov's dog.

Lucien said...

Was anyone turned away because they didn’t look POC enough? Or is it enough just to say you self-identify as a POC?

President-Mom-Jeans said...

"I am completely off the prostitution scale, unlike the women you're talking about."

Nonsense, you are just the "John" on the scale. You think without that fat taxpayer funded pension that you would be able to have a kept boy gardener?

Loren W Laurent said...

"I am completely off the prostitution scale, unlike the women you're talking about."

As a young white Jewish woman, I would like to hear more about this prostitution scale.

If the scale is one-to-ten, where Althouse is a zero, what actions by women would constitute a rating of 1? Of 3? Of 6?

Do intentions matter? If a woman has sex with a man for money, but only uses the money to pay for the medical treatment of her young daughter who has young-daughter-movie-cancer, is the mother still a 10, or does she get to slip down to an 8?

Because my mother slept with men for money for my cancer treatments when I was a young girl. So I would only give her a 4, but perhaps I am biased.

LWL

becauseIdbefired said...

"Because my mother slept with men for money for my cancer treatments when I was a young girl. So I would only give her a 4, but perhaps I am biased."

Is that true? If so, that's an amazing story.

Etienne said...

You think without that fat taxpayer funded pension...

Careful there fuck-face, I have two tax payer funded pensions!

They come straight from the Treasury, no middle men. Get off of my lawn!

Sebastian said...

"I am completely off the prostitution scale, unlike the women you're talking about . . . It's like the proud females have never been anywhere near you."

See, this is what trips me up. Here we are, pleasantly coasting along, enjoying Althouse's observations on the passing scene, the occasional fisking, the give-and-take of hostess and commentariat, and then we get to women and sex and suddenly we are in a different world, an alien realm where the usual epistemological and anthropological standards have been suspended.

It's a puzzlement.

elkh1 said...

LWL, the mother is a 19 if the men were especially odious.

elkh1 said...

They light up at a 10 like a panhandler?
I won't take anything less than a 100.

Bay Area Guy said...

They should try that $10 white, liberal, guilt-purging, empty gesture in West Oakland.

That would require actual guts!

White liberals have to be the stupidest people on planet earth.

TWW said...

How about this in respect of African Americans: repatriation not reparation. If they think that your life would have been better in Africa had their ancestors not been deported to America and enslaved.

reader said...

I was solicited for prostitution once. It wasn't my fault, he must have had a type. Well it was kind of my fault; my friend and I broke the cardinal rule and split up. My friend went into a Denny's to call and see where our ride was. I stayed outside so we wouldn't miss him if he drove up.

So don't stand on the sidewalk at night in front of the Denny's by yourself in Englewood California after the Purple Rain concert.

He was very polite even after I turned him down.

Sam L. said...

Forget it, Jake; it's Portlandia. They're bug-nuts crazy.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Racial discrimination is illegal in this country. Yes, even in Portland. Lock a few of these racists up & the others will see the light.

JaimeRoberto said...

A fool and his money. I'd have come and gone in different outfits several times to collect $10 each time. If they objected, I'd scream racism.

Michael K said...

When the French packed-up, the Country was going to be free of Colonialism. Free of the Japanese. Viet Nam credited the USA for helping defeat the Japs.

I would suggest reading "Triumph Forsaken" for some history of Vietnam and Ho.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

"Except liberals rankle at that"- Except liberals don't rankle at that, they actually do that, and support that, and promote that, like right here in this instance. This is Prog politics, paying off the white guilt by buying off the black vote.

Freeman Hunt said...

"In my experience most have at one time or another."

It's relatively rare for a woman to go to a bar alone. Rare enough that I've never known anyone to do it.

Etienne said...
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Unknown said...

There aren't many black people in Portland.

Etienne said...

There aren't many black people in Portland.

Lots of mulatto's though.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

"Careful there fuck-face, I have two tax payer funded pensions!"

That is very impressive Etienne. Do you pay for two men to sexually service you as live in gardeners?

reader said...

I don't like bars and didn't go that often even with other people (dressed up and trolling). Now when my husband and son are golfing I will sit in a bar by myself in Vegas or at a golf course.

I buy one or two sodas, tip well, and read my book for about four or five hours (Starbucks!). I have had men offer to buy me drinks and ask me out. They are very polite and respectful no matter the race or ethnicity.

On the whole men are awesome.

Etienne said...

Do you pay for two men to sexually service you as live in gardeners?

Ha! I married a rich Catholic woman. I'm the tax payer funded servant.

Etienne said...

Mark Moyar (Forsaken author) completely misses the boat. He spent all of his time studying the post-partition politics and military adventurism.

Blind to him was the reason for the partition, and the reason why everything turned to shit that he wrote about. The period of his study was like reviewing the remains of a Jay walker after getting hit by a bus.

The problem is Jay walking, not the blood stains.

Gahrie said...

It's relatively rare for a woman to go to a bar alone. Rare enough that I've never known anyone to do it.

Most women do tend to travel in packs...alone more accurately should be "manless".

Yancey Ward said...

Sal wrote:

"Because it was the first time and it was unexpected. See how their eyes light up when they expect it and you're not in a money-giving mood."

Even better, watch what happens when it first declines to a number above zero.

Etienne said...
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Quaestor said...

Whores and their johns — the whore gets the money, the john gets an orgasm.

Original Mike said...

”It's relatively rare for a woman to go to a bar alone. Rare enough that I've never known anyone to do it.”

You know they serve food and stuff?

tcrosse said...

How did that 40 Acres and a Mule thing work out ?

mockturtle said...

There aren't many black people in Portland.

About 70K.

PM said...

"Let them eat sawbucks."

Rusty said...

Blogger TWW said...
"How about this in respect of African Americans: repatriation not reparation. If they think that your life would have been better in Africa had their ancestors not been deported to America and enslaved."
They were enslaved before they ever got to our shores.
And for the most part they were treated very well.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

They didn't bake that!

Big Mike said...

@Etienne, if there was no NVA, then who the fuck was shooting 7.62 rounds at my friends?

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

Cancer whores get a break, at least 4 points. Five if the daughter with movie cancer is cute, maybe 6 if she looks like Natalie Portman.

mockturtle said...

It's the white Progs and the media [but I repeat] who are promoting racially divisive activities because these serve their political interests. Blacks and whites who fall into their trap should know better by now.

TWW said...

Rusty

My point is that for those who feel aggrieved, repatriation not reparation is the remedy.

Your points may or may not have validity but they are not necessary to make my point.

The definition of reparation is, 'the making of amends for a wrong one has done, by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged.' This would seem to exclude present generations of African Americans who were not kidnapped, not enslaved but would like to benefit vicariously from those who were.

Valentine Smith said...

How can these "donors" not see the utter contempt behind their symbolic reparations. Baffling!

I tend to see the 700,000 plus lives lost in the Civil War reparations enough.

Rory said...

As Frankie Pentangeli demonstrated, if you want to condescend to someone with money you have to come up with at least a c-note.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Ann Althouse said...

I am completely off the prostitution scale...

I'm pretty sure this puts you somewhere on the scale.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Here's $10 because of the content of your character

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Etienne said...

Big Mike said...@Etienne, if there was no NVA, then who the fuck was shooting 7.62 rounds at my friends?

Patriots from the Viet Nam Army.

If someone invades your country, it is legal to shoot at them. I think it is common law. You don't need a trial.

By calling it the "North" Viet Nam Army was to say the "South" Viet Nam Army was legitimate. It wasn't.

The South Vietnamese were merely an invention of the Imperialists who partitioned the country against their will. They even said they were going to have an election, but when it came time, they cancelled the election. Thus, partitioning the country with no world authority. Like England, they cunningly planted a Flag on foreign soil.

If Canada were to partition Maine into two halves, would "South" Maine squat?

Would the "South" Maine Army fight the "North" Maine Army?

Would the "Maine Army" fight the illegitimate "North" Maine Army?

Test on Friday.

Charlie said...

Cue Hotep Jesus!

Fabi said...

Did Chuck send a representative from the Department of Black People?

ccscientist said...

I had no idea they were only asking for $10 for reparations. Or that lefties could be quite that clueless.
By the way, 1 white died in the civil war for every 6 slaves freed. Pretty good reparations right there. Then the freed slaves were given land.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Etienne said...
There was no NVA. There was no North Viet Nam.

There was one Viet Nam, and the Imperialists tried to cut the country in two by arming the corrupt south.



Hey coupe, somebody was just saying that they were worried about you, because you seemed to have stopped drinking.

Thanks for getting right on that!

I'd ask you to ice yourself and ease up on us taxpayers, but I guess your wife would collect, and of course that's a bridge too far.

Bad Lieutenant said...

By the way, 1 white died in the civil war for every 6 slaves freed. Pretty good reparations right there. Then the freed slaves were given land.


Has anyone ever considered, as to the limitless evil of the Southrons:

1. They could have ended slavery in America, easy and painlessly (to whites): just sell all their stock to Brazil!

Think of it! Slave owners get made whole. No blacks in America, or extremely few, to cause these lingering problems. Brazil would have worked them to death so no lingering influence, and the South's hands would have been clean. Nobody ever bothers Brazil.

2. If the South was as evil as oh say Hitler, they could have massacred all their slaves as the advancing Yankees drew near. This could even be argued as wise, because of the threat they would pose, having ascendancy over their former masters.

Bad Lieutenant said...

5/26/18, 4:48 PM
Blogger Ignorance is Bliss said...
Ann Althouse said...

I am completely off the prostitution scale...

I'm pretty sure this puts you somewhere on the scale.

5/26/18, 5:07 PM


Yeah, Althouse is a whore, she's just too expensive.

gilbar said...

There was one Viet Nam
technically, there were 3 vietnams

Tonkin
Annam
and Cochinchina

why should the Buddhists and Catholics in Annam be subjugated to the Atheists up in Tonkin?

Lucien said...

This whole thing about women not going to bars alone...wow!

I go to bars alone all the time - not to pick someone up but because I like to drink. Particularly when I travel to London on business, there’s a pub on every corner, and I like to grab a couple of pints (alone) before heading back to the hotel (alone).

Do women really not do this? No going to the pubs unaccompanied? That’s... sad.

Lucien said...

I guess that’s why most/all brewmasters are men. And most/all vintners. And distillers. Honestly, do women ever play any role in the beverage industry other than hostess or secretary?

mockturtle said...

Do women really not do this? No going to the pubs unaccompanied? That’s... sad.

I think most women--certainly me--believe that going to a bar alone makes a statement that they are expecting to be picked up. At any rate, it's not something I would ever have felt comfortable doing. But then, I never had to.

chickelit said...

Once the patriarchy is finally smashed, most women will feel free to go to bars alone.

walter said...

"..people felt like they were finally seen."
Oh..not always a good thing..like when my uber liberal Jewish bud stepped into a Milwaukee bar and got jacked up against the wall by the "black" door dude.

"What if men at a bar funded the practice of offering a $10 bill to women who would come in?"
It's called Ladies Night..garners..free entry or drink discoundts.

"cookies for sale for, say, $1 if you're black and $5 if you are white."
Yeah..interesting for the affirmative action angle..but even more interesting if you consider multiple prices based on income bracket.

FIDO said...

LWL,

Not really. I watched a room full of 'proud women' at a dating seminar for women, and the male speaker discussed 'splitting the check.'

It was amazing watching 400 women simultaneously looking like they swallowed a fly.

So the vast majority of women, including Megan McArdle, who admitted to dating a lot of nobodies for free food in her salad days, are more than happy to 'sell their attention' for the price of a meal, much less alcohol (preferably both and expensive). So the vast majority of women are at least a 2 on that sliding whore scale.

But I am sure 'Proud Ann' never ever caged a meal or access to a party with someone she wasn't otherwise interested in in her life. Because she has pride ( which is one of those Deadlies).

But to answer your question, Ms. Althouse, the difference between a pro and a Yuppie college girl both soliciting for a free drink is that a pro understands she owes the buyer some consideration of time and attention.

A Yuppie College girl feels zero obligation because 'oppression'. The highly educated are so good at rationalizing horrible behavior up to and including begging.

chickelit said...

FIDO wrote But I am sure 'Proud Ann' never ever caged a meal or access to a party with someone she wasn't otherwise interested in in her life. Because she has pride ( which is one of those Deadlies).

Althouse never compromised with no mystery tramps. Their alibis put her off.

Oso Negro said...

@ chickelit - I would think decent women would be smart to be well clear of the bar by the time the patriarchy is “smashed”

FIDO said...

Pride is one of those things one can afford when one has access to a Fat bank account, either daddy's or hubby's or even possibly one's own.

Just finished a quick trip to Venezuela. Workers go through garbage for still edible food.

1) Socialism sucks.

2) I am guessing they wouldn't sneer at $10.

Mike in Keller said...

Alas, for those who choose to be victims [and they are, albeit of LBJ's Great Society], pre-Civil War slavery will never cease to exist.

None of my relatives were here prior to 1898. I should pay reparations? For what? We were paupers growing up, so tell me more about White privilege.

Douglas B. Levene said...

It's too bad the US lost the Vietnam War. If we had won, today South Vietnam would be rich, free and democratic, like South Korea.

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FIDO said...

I think the more interesting thing revealed is that Ms. Althouse considers any woman who solicits a drink, is in fact a whore.


I won't dismiss the possibility, but I am open to that solicitation as an expression of interest.


This whole 'relationship dance' seems to find Ms. Althouse with two leftist feet.


What about a woman who cages a free meal or refuses to split a check? A woman who dates a man for his career, educational or cultural access? All whores?

Etienne said...

Douglas said...It's too bad the US lost the Vietnam War. If we had won, today South Vietnam would be rich, free and democratic...

Viet Nam is in excellent shape. It has electricity, drinking water, sewage treatment, and a growing economy. It is a huge agriculture exporter.

Compare that with Puerto Rico.

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