February 18, 2018

I'm sorry. I don't care enough to read the article.

"Do Trump’s alleged affairs even matter?" by Callum Borchers (at WaPo).

I did take a look at the top-rated comment: "If President Obama had had an affair, it would have mattered a lot to these same people. Hypocrites without honor, all of them."

If President Obama had an affair, it would matter because we have an opinion of him as a man who has been an excellent husband. It would have mattered to people who love him more than those who hate him.

Trump's affairs don't conflict with much of anything anybody thinks of him. You can't use them because those who want to use them are not those who are genuinely upset about the affairs but people who are looking for ways to attack the man they already hate. And anyone who likes Trump can easily see that about them and moves on. That's not hypocrisy, that's competence — resistance to trolling.

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Michael K said...

Anonymous Jonny Scrum-half said...
Michael K - I didn't refer to impreachment or perjury. I'm talking about the many Republican voters and leaders who claimed that Clinton's immoral behavior was disqualifying. That was an obvious lie.


Not having seen your posts until the past day or two, I cannot decide if you are sincere or just another left wing troll.

I am unaware of the large number of GOP voters who wanted Clinton impeached because he was immoral. Hillary and her multiple "Arkansacides" is far more immoral.

Bill is a charming rogue who is a pretty good politician with no policies except his appetites.

Sprezzatura said...

"The clever ones who think they are so sophisticated are probably the dumbest."

Would this be assessed based on a standardized measure? E.g., IQ?

buwaya said...

IQ in a practical sense measures capacity or potential (statistically anyway), but not achievement or value.
There are smart guys who have done little for us, and not-quite-as-smart ones who I rely on.

Evaluate your life - what have you done that was not something that you simply fell into? What will your existence matter six months after you are in the grave?

narciso said...

As with Spitzer Franken et al, their actual conduct to acquire the office, and performance in it is,magnitudes worse than their personal peccadilloes. In the former case it was lneecapping the management of Aug, right before the subprime struck, in the latter it was defrauding orphanages and voter fraud.

buwaya said...

The destruction of AIG was one of the contributors to the collapse of 2008. Spitzer was a corrupt tool who helped a gang of pirates take control from Maurice Greenberg, who built that company.

Something similar went on all over Wall Street in those years.

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Michael K said...

A pretty good book about 2008 is the one written by Nicole Gelinas called, After the Fall.

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd were probably the worst actors in Congress and, of course, wrote the bill that was supposed to fix things. It will cause the next crash along with the resumption of all the pathology. Liar loans, etc.

buwaya said...

Narcisos point is that whatever private sins Spitzer committed, or the damage from the related crimes that ended his career, which were trivial, these were as nothing to the immense damage he did in his capacity as a public official.

And that is the "hard" metric one should use in judging these people.

Michael K said...

Commenters thought he was a fool and a man of low character for cheating on his beautiful wife.

If that was a disqualification, there would be a lot of empty hotel rooms in DC.

narciso said...

I dubbed it sutton/ dillinger it did not affect the gse's like Fannie and freddie, the dead canary was mf (seriously) globals collapse and the lack of accountability to corzine. Of course name which politicians receive most money from the whole subprime cartel from Aig to wachovia?

narciso said...

This is why sorkin nocera et al' s accounts are terrible, Morgenstern gelinas and Allison are about the why: the government visible hand pushing subprime.

Sprezzatura said...

"Of course name which politicians receive most money from the whole subprime cartel from Aig to wachovia?"

What is Manchin?

Sprezzatura said...

or Mnuchin

narciso said...

But you'll never get bothered to examine stories like how the main counterpart to uranium one, translogistics had ex south african diplomats ceo computer trashed beyond recovery after his demise.

Or operation Cassandra how a Hezbollah chieftain can become a member of Ukraine's state arms export corporation, and operating out of the Vienna office, exporting to colombiA

narciso said...

How about dodd Frank Obama and Biden, in that order. Manchin small beer, and mnuchin bought a,stake in unibank after schumer had caused it's collapse.

Jonny Scrum-half said...

Hey Michael K - I'll try it again. I didn't mention impeachment in my first comment. I explicitly stated that I wasn't talking about impeachment in my response to your comment. And you keep bringing up impeachment, and then claiming that I'm either insincere or "another left wing troll."

If you don't think that large sections of the conservative/evangelical population claimed that they couldn't vote for Bill Clinton because of his immoral behavior, just come right out and make that statement. But please stop responding to arguments that I haven't made.

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