Trump has denied making the remark, it's worth mentioning (even as I feel I should check Twitter to see if he's reframed that denial since I looked last (no, he's just blaming the Democrats for missing the opportunity to fix DACA)).
But I like Kennicott's refocussing of the question. (It's like in the #MeToo discussions when we shift from looking at the accused offender to wondering what the other people who saw what was happening did about it.)
Kennicott says:
What I want to know is how the men in the room with him reacted. This is the dinner table test: When you are sitting and socializing with a bigot, what do you do when he reveals his bigotry? I’ve seen it happen, once, when I was a young man, and I learned an invaluable lesson. An older guest at a formal dinner said something blatantly anti-Semitic. I was shocked and laughed nervously. Another friend stared at his plate silently. Another excused himself and fled to the bathroom. And then there was the professor, an accomplished and erudite man, who paused for a moment, then slammed his fist on the table and said, “I will never listen to that kind of language, so either you will leave, or I will leave.” The offender looked around the table, found no allies and left the gathering. I don’t know if he felt any shame upon expulsion.I would like to see more in-person confrontation. It's kind of weaselly to sit there and listen and then afterwards talk to the press and let them — who didn't experience the context or have the ability to shape and propel the conversation — do your chiding and shaming for you.
Did Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) threaten to leave the Oval Office? Did Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) speak sharply to the president, saying no one should speak like that, not in the White House, not in the United States, not in decent society? (He did, at least the next morning when speaking to the media.) Did anyone suggest that perhaps the president should wash his mouth out with soap and take a time out to think about what he just did?
When I think about this subject, the name that comes to mind is Eartha Kitt:
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It’s called being human. Try it.
Inga: "It’s called being human. Try it."
Denying the humanity if others is why all leftist movements that gain compkete power end with mass graves.
Perhaps you should direct that comment to your lefty pals that giggle as they harvest little baby body parts.
Meanwhile in Wisco, an incident reported with obvious raaacism:
Last night, Racine County, Wisconsin Sheriff’s received reports of an armed man on a Greyhound bus from Milwaukee to Chicago, WISN-TV reported. The man was threatening to kill other passengers.
Racine County Sheriffs Deputies chased the man into Lake County, Illinois. During the chase, passengers were yelling at the man to stop the bus. Eventually the deputies had to use spike strips to stop the bus.
This afternoon, it has come to light that the suspect, 31-year-old Margarito Vargas-Rosas, is an illegal immigrant who lives in Chicago and works at a restaurant in Milwaukee.
According to the Racine County Sheriff’s office, the bus has been seized and they’re working on locating a firearm. They also said Vargas-Rosas is being held on making terrorist threats.
Is Chicago such a shithole that an illegal immigrant has to commute to Milwaukee to work in a restaurant?
I mean..defiant "sanctuary city" and all...
Rahmbo has some splainin' to do.
John Pickering said...
The current president has shown and said that he is a bigot and a racist.
John Pickering,
are blacks better football, basketball and boxers than whites and Chinese?
Are Chinese more intelligent than blacks and whites?
Are Mexicans harder workers than other races?
Are Indians better at higher math than others?
Are you a racist for thinking so?
rac·ist
ˈrāsəst/
noun
noun: racist; plural noun: racists
1.
a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
John Pickering said...
"I fret..."
Yes, you do.
I might even say you fret exquisitely. Like an Emily Brontë character would fret.
You fret in the refined manner that the lesser educated could never hope to replicate, much less appreciate.
I dearly hope your fretting makes headway in this deplorable world.
--jj
Dick Durbin is a serial liar who engineered this current kerfuffle. Shitholes like him need to be exported, so that the world can enjoy the blessings.
Walter: "This afternoon, it has come to light that the suspect, 31-year-old Margarito Vargas-Rosas, is an illegal immigrant who lives in Chicago and works at a restaurant in Milwaukee."
And this is the guy the lefties claim is a better person than all the deplorable Trump voters.
Oh, my. John Pickering is a fierce member of #the resistance. Stand back and ready for incoming lecture as he gallops in on his high horse named sanctimony.
Michael: "Oh, my. John Pickering is a fierce member of #the resistance. Stand back and ready for incoming lecture as he gallops in on his high horse named sanctimony"
I recognize that horse.
It's the one John Pickering and pals used to run roughshod rhetorically over the victims of Bill Clinton's sexual assaults.
“Perhaps you should direct that comment to your lefty pals that giggle as they harvest little baby body parts.”
I’ve never met one that has done so. Can you never ever make a comment that’s isn’t a lie or an exaggeration?
I would look into where and with who this guy was crashing in Milwaukee.
Can't imagine going greyhound as a commute.
I'm still waiting for any lefty to explain precisely when it was that G W Bush ceased being a racist and the reasons for that.
I'm going to guess it was right around the time the dems needed to shift and start claiming John McCain was a racist...which they did.
This is just classic: "Mrs. Clinton, whose elite background and way of moving through the world is alien to a certain white population"
Something in the way..she moves..(falling into van)
Walter: "This is just classic:"
"Mrs. Clinton, whose elite background and way of moving through the world is alien to a certain white population"
Pickering has his head so far up Hillary's rear end he can almost see LLR Chuck's feet.
"Mrs. Clinton, whose elite background and way of moving through the world is alien to a certain white population..."
Making millions of dollars selling access gained from your public employment is alien to me.
Why do they not teach this shit in the STEM classes?
--jj
Drago said... [hush][hide comment]
I'm still waiting for any lefty to explain precisely when it was that G W Bush ceased being a racist and the reasons for that.
Thirty seconds after he criticized Trump.
I know it's raaaacist to point out...but that elite background and way of moving through the wold just might be alien to certain black, Latino and Asian populations.
Something in the way she moves
Attracts me like no other grifter.
Something in the way she woos me
I don't want to leave her now
You know I believe and how
Something in the way she knows
And all I have to do is think of her
Something in the things she shows me
I don't want to leave her now
You know I believe and how
Yes, better advantaged white people have to help less advantaged whites overcome their resentment and find a way to ameliorate their condition and improve their prospects.
On the one point: yes, many blacks are better basketball players, many Mexicans as workers, Indians as mathematicians. But not all of them are better than all the others, and that's the point, as your definition makes clear: being prejudiced against a given person because of ethnic background is racist.
My larger point is about the moral confusion that has led Ann to conclude that the national enterprise benefits from having a President who's a racist.
In fact, in defense of the tribe, Ann thinks it's all really pretty funny, that Trump is essentially a humorist. That's unlikely to salve her conscience as the sun goes down.
You're asking me why did she go.
I don't know, I don't know
You stick around now it may show
I don't know, I don't know
Judge: Trump racism may have been key to ending DACA
Court's order follows ruling earlier this week to allow 'Dreamers' to renew their permits.
The federal judge who earlier this week ordered the reversal of President Donald Trump's decision to end the program protecting so-called Dreamers said in a new ruling Friday that it is "plausible" that Trump shut down the program for racial reasons.
"These allegations raise a plausible inference that racial animus towards Mexicans and Latinos was a motivating factor in the decision to end DACA,” U.S. District Court Judge William Alsup wrote, referring to the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program bestowing quasi-legal status and work permits on undocumented immigrants who entered the U.S. as children.
Alsup noted that two of the suits filed challenging the decision the Trump administration announced in September to wind-down the program cited Trump's anti-Mexican and anti-Latino rhetoric during the 2016 campaign, including his description of Mexicans as rapists and of immigrants coming across the southern border as "animals."
"Circumstantial evidence of intent, including statements by a decisionmaker, may be considered in evaluating whether government action was motivated by a discriminatory purpose,”wrote Alsup, an appointee of President Bill Clinton. "These statements were not about the rescission (which came later) but they still have relevance to show racial animus against people south of our border."
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/12/trump-racism-daca-dreamers-judge-339512
"My larger point is about the moral confusion that has led Ann to conclude that the national enterprise benefits from having a President who's a racist. "
That's if she has concluded Trump's a racist.
That's YOUR conclusion.
But you can't help but repeatedly speak for and about others.
Back to that mirror..look closer.
John Pickering said...
"Yes, better advantaged white people have to help less advantaged whites overcome their resentment and find a way to ameliorate their condition and improve their prospects."
The White Man is now the Educated White Man's Burden.
It must be exhausting, being so educated that no one can fully appreciate how smart you are.
No matter how you explain it to them.
--jj
John Pickering: "On the one point: yes, many blacks are better basketball players,..."
Whoa, whoa whoa there Tiger!
Stuff like that got Jimmy the Greek fired!!
H8tr.
"Making millions of dollars selling access gained from your public employment is alien to me.
Why do they not teach this shit in the STEM classes?"
They do, or did. All this was covered by Engineering courses that used to be required, Business Law and Ethics, or variations thereof.
John Pickering: "My larger point is about the moral confusion that has led Ann to conclude that the national enterprise benefits from having a President who's a racist."
Bill Clinton, who famously said about obama "A few years ago this guy would have been getting us coffee.", is no longer president.
Can you imagine the reaction if Trump had said that?!!
Wow. The lefties would have had to take time out from giving all their sexual assaulters a pass to complain!
I clutched my self righteousness and pride as though brass knuckles to balled fist ( the fingers and fist of an English major, journalist and intellectual). Dear reader, I promise what happened next was not planned:
A feral tension filled the room.
As though one organism, we spontaneously gathered around the offender, miasmic, intrepidly bellowing ‘Shame’ until our chanting became a chorus, one undifferentiated gush.
This hot joyous slurry poured and poured upon our guest for a full minute, eventually causing him to storm from the room back, no doubt, to the cartoonish grotesqueries and reassuring warmth of the Daily Stormer.
You are NOT WELCOME HERE, sir.
"Yes, better advantaged white people have to help less advantaged whites overcome their resentment and find a way to ameliorate their condition and improve their prospects."
The proper response is an comprehensive, sincere apology followed by a voluntary penance involving great personal pain.
Thousands of people crawling up cathedral steps (their local cathedral, should it have the appropriate architecture, or the nearest one that suffices), while scourging themselves, that would work.
Would do wonders to clear the air.
I suspect however that Mr. Pickering does not understand the problem.
"My larger point is about the moral confusion that has led Ann to conclude that the national enterprise benefits from having a President who's a racist."
I thought the point of Gramsci, among others, was to point out that morality was a bourgeois value.
Moral ambiguity: Good. Moral confusion: bad.
Cue Syd Barrett teaching the band "Have You Got It Yet".
-jj
“The lefties would have had to take time out from giving all their sexual assaulters a pass to complain!”
Non stop hyperbole.
Inga: "Non stop hyperbole"
Oh, I think saying Mitt Romney was a theocratic misogynist might qualify as hyperbole. Perhaps even saying that Sarah Palin's son was not really hers is hyperbole.
But the left had no problem engaging fully in both.
Again, when, exactly, did George W Bush cease being a racist and why? The left has failed to explain that.
After that, perhaps you would be kind enough to explain when Romney ceased being a racist, along with McCain, HW Bush and Reagan.
“And this is the guy the lefties claim is a better person than all the deplorable Trump voters.”
Non stop hyperbole.
"racist" words are words, but realities like this -
Employment 2000-2015
Seem not to matter.
Its interesting that taking away the prosperity and self-worth of millions does not matter, requires no punishment, but some words do.
Remember how Biden said Romney and Ryan wanted to put black people back into chains?
LOL
Yep, no hyperbole there.
None at all.
Just as there wasn't a smidgen of corruption under obama.
"My larger point is about the moral confusion that has led Ann to conclude that the national enterprise benefits from having a President who's a racist."
A good point.
If discussing Woodrow Wilson.
Because World War One sucked.
--jj
On the one point: yes, many blacks are better basketball players, many Mexicans as workers, Indians as mathematicians. But not all of them are better than all the others, and that's the point, as your definition makes clear: being prejudiced against a given person because of ethnic background is racist.
Yeah, good try, racist.
Those prejudiced traits mentioned are in favor of the races mentioned, not derogatory. And nobody says that all whites or all blacks or all Mexicans or all Asians are superior to all people of other races. That is just stupid.
“But the left had no problem engaging fully in both.”
Oh cry me a river. For how many years did Trump and you idiot birthers claim Obama’s Presidency wasn’t legal because he was supposedly born in Kenya?
Inga: "For how many years did Trump and you idiot birthers claim Obama’s Presidency wasn’t legal because he was supposedly born in Kenya?"
So, let me get this straight: the left claimed Reagan, HW Bush, W Bush, McCain and Romney were racists because Trump was a birther.
Got it.
“Remember how Biden said Romney and Ryan wanted to put black people back into chains?”
Remember how at Tea Party rallies people were holding up posters of Obama as a native with a bone through his nose?
John Pickering said...
Yes, better advantaged white people have to help less advantaged whites overcome their resentment and find a way to ameliorate their condition and improve their prospects
Oh my fuck. What a caricature. You obviously don't frequent this site.
But don't ever change. I can guarantee that you will never have a hemorrhoid.
Ask me why!
I am disgusted by the mania about words.
Reality trumps words.
In other countries reality is the same, jobs and money and roads and concrete.
I mam a foreigner and was raised in three languages and can get along in a couple of others.
The words vary, as do the ins and outs of particular ones.
Words are not universal, and should therefore be held to be trivial.
That some words are holy, and others unholy, makes no sense.
And I was raised Catholic, and loaded down with prayers and verbal formulas.
We had things that were holy, but they weren't holy in the sense of the way words are in the US today. In this country it is, these days, maniacal.
Inga: "Remember how at Tea Party rallies people were holding up posters of Obama as a native with a bone through his nose?"
So, let me get this straight: the left claimed Reagan, HW Bush, W Bush, McCain and Romney were racists because some random guy at a Trump rally (whether a real supporter or not, do you have a name and profile of this person?) showed up with a poster.
Got it.
Getting closer:
(Famous female with dry sense of humour)said
Stop and think how ridiculous you've become. I'm
fine with becoming persona non grata. Your blog has
become the cesspool it once was. I'm pretty much
done here. 6/30/17, 6:33 PM
Came back in a week and commented daily
as Unknown,( while denying previous identity for five weeks)
So, Biden saying the republicans were going to put black people back into chains and the entire lefty establishment saying all republican candidates for the last 50 years are racist are equivalent to one random rally attendee?
LOL
Last question Inga.
When the left claimed Reagan, HW Bush, W Bush, McCain and Romney were racists, how did they know at those times that some random Trump rally-goer would show up with a poster in 2016?
Inga: "Remember how at Tea Party rallies people were holding up posters of Obama as a native with a bone through his nose?"
No shit ! Obama posed with a bone in his nose? High School High? Crazy college prank? Halloween? When did he do it, Inga? No doubt he was joking but seems out of character?
Got a link?
John Pickering said...
Yes, better advantaged white people have to help less advantaged whites overcome their resentment and find a way to ameliorate their condition and improve their prospects
Oh my fuck. What a caricature. You obviously don't frequent this site.
But don't ever change. I can guarantee that you will never have a hemorrhoid.
Ask me why!
1/13/18, 7:36 PM
IKNOW ! I KNow!
because he is a perfect asshole!
Too easy!
Drago:
#MySidesFeelingsWereHurtMoreThanYours
#NonStopButtHurt
Do all lefties like Inga possess time machines?
I'm surprised that it would even be necessary given the lefties ability to read minds, which is why they are so big on Thought-crimes.
Oh, wait. Now I get it.
The lefties travel into the future AND read minds there before coming back and holding republicans accountable now.
Which is only fair, since every republican/conservative/Christian is personally responsible for everything that has happened since the dawn of time.
Remember how obama and the lefties excused current islamic terrorist actions by bringing up the Crusades?
Drago:
#TheRightIsAsInnocentAsTheDrivenSnow
Inga, I have to give you credit.
Normally you just go right into denial mode about past lefty actions and/or simply proclaim ignorance of it.
In this case you probably realized there was no hope in claiming that the left did not accuse every republican in the last 50 years of racism and you knew you couldn't pretend not to have noticed it.
So you went to fall-back position number 3: oh, you guys just can't take a joke!
LOL
Unexpectedly.
Inga, can you be honest and admit that each of those republicans was accused of being racist?
I'll bet you won't.
What is racist for Trump to question why the proposal brought to him singled out Haitians for increased visa slots, as opposed to, say, Norwegians?
Drago:
#ICryBigTearsDaily
#LeftiesAreVeryVeryBaaaad
Inga, your responses are perfect.
Drago:
#LeftiesMustAdmitTheirSins!
For Inga:
#ThoseAbortedBabiesDeservedToBeCarvedUpForBodyParts
#RepublicansSpendFarTooMuchTimeWeepingForMurderedBabiesAndNotEnoughTimePraisingIslamicSupremacists
No means No when comes to immigration from shit hole countries, we owe them nothing.
Senator Durban should be banned from the White House for having absolutely no discretion. He's an absolute retard for not knowing why people have closed door meetings. In the private sector he would be walked to his car by security and banned from the property, his personal belongings would be ship Fed Ex to him. Sort of like President of the United States Donald J Trump did to loose lips Comey. I can see where Sen Durban took the phrase "shit hole" personally, he has so many in his state.
Drago:
#AllLeftieWomenKillTheirBabies
#AllLeftiesSellBabyBodyParts
Drago:
#NoRepublicanWomanEverHadAnAbortion
#RepublicansArePerfectlySinless
"Remember how at Tea Party rallies people were holding up posters of Obama as a native with a bone through his nose?"
Was it a dog femur?
Drago:
#AllLeftiesWantMuslimsToKillYou
john Pickering--are you off your meds or just stupid?
As far as I'm concerned, calling a known shithole a shithole, in what was a closed door setting, is fine by me. Its the truth, after all.
The real disgusting creature is Durbin (he who famously called our troops "Nazis") for either making this up (so far as I know nobody else in the room supports his version) or felt the need to go public about a private conversation to stir up the John Pickerings, Ingas, and Chucks of the world.
I'd bet my house that most normal Americans and a majority of the self righteous virtue signalers have used the term similarly and actually agree with Trump. Assuming he actually said that.
The Obama poster was him dressed as a witch doctor with "Obama Care" written under neath. The poster was brilliant and pretty much sums up "You can keep your doctor" and Obamacare.
Things unsaid: Why is the United States obligated to affirmative action on immigration? Why is asking the question racist?
“... or felt the need to go public about a private conversation to stir up the John Pickerings, Ingas, and Chucks of the world.”
Trump would’ve tweeted his shithole comments himself, if Durbin hadn’t beat him to the punch, lol.
#TheRightNeverVirtueSignals
Inga: "Trump would’ve tweeted his shithole comments himself, if Durbin hadn’t beat him to the punch, lol"
There's that lefty mind-reading stuff I was talking about.
Not to worry, in about 15 minutes Inga will forget she wrote that and will swear up and down she never did.
Inga: "Drago:
#AllLeftiesWantMuslimsToKillYou"
We are all well aware of the Islamo-Lefty alliance.
And so are lots of others. Since you like links:
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/The-unholy-coalition-of-radical-Islam-and-social-Leftists-in-Europe-384994
https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/islamism-and-the-left
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/the-tyranny-of-guilt-an-essay-on-western-masochism-by-pascal-bruckner-trans-by-steven-rendall-1951335.html
A Clinton apologist has no moral standing to lecture anybody about anything.
“I'd bet my house that most normal Americans and a majority of the self righteous virtue signalers have used the term similarly and actually agree with Trump. Assuming he actually said that.”
To me, it wasn’t the the term shithole he used to describe the countries, it was what he implied by that. This has been said at least four or five times in this thread alone, yet people still think the outrage was over the word shithole to describe the countries in question.
Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” In particular, when he learned that a certain proposal might lead to green cards for people from Haiti, he asked, “Why do we need more Haitians?” and added, “Take them out.” He also wanted to know why there couldn’t be more Norwegians coming over instead.
Inga, are you pleased that the German lefty government will be establishing public stations during large scale celebrations where women who are sexually assaulted by muslims can seek immediate care?
Yep, it's actually so bad the Germans are establishing mass stations for sexual assaults.
But its all good. Just think of them as millions of future President Clinton's.
“There's that lefty mind-reading stuff I was talking about.”
Well, at least dead people don’t tell me things.
#DragoHearsDeadPeople
Inga: "To me, it wasn’t the the term shithole he used to describe the countries, it was what he implied by that."
Mindreading.
Whenever and wherever you need it!
Perfect for "FutureCrime Prosecution"...for which the lefties have demonstrated a real capability.
Inga: "Well, at least dead people don’t tell me things."
It's true.
The previous staff of Charlie Hebdo won't ever be telling anyone anything ever again.
Uh, just so you know, that's supposed to be a bad thing...(you have to explain those things to lefties)
“Inga, are you pleased that the German lefty government will be establishing public stations during large scale celebrations where women who are sexually assaulted by muslims can seek immediate care?”
Link.
“The previous staff of Charlie Hebdo won't ever be telling anyone anything ever again.”
Neither will Heather Heyer.
Drago, do you think that the Mooslims will ask people before they kill them, are you are Righty or A Leftie?
Interesting. You dont even know the names of any of the Charlie Hebdo victims.
Shorter inga: why wont those racist white parents if Kate Steinle give brown illegal aliens a chance?!
Inga: "Drago, do you think that the Mooslims will ask people before they kill them, are you are Righty or A Leftie?"
No. Thats why the joke is on you.
Inga, can you name 1 victim if islamic supremacist violence in the US?
You've got alot more than 1 name to choose from.
“No. Thats why the joke is on you.”
You see, this is precisely why your over the top nonstop hyperbole is ridiculous. You assume that Radical Islamist Terrorists are given a pass by liberals. You assume so much. You exaggerate so much. You live in your hyperbolic world. When your exaggeration doesn’t work, you outright lie.
Inga said...
“Inga, are you pleased that the German lefty government will be establishing public stations during large scale celebrations where women who are sexually assaulted by muslims can seek immediate care?”
Link.
Inga, your link did not work
#DragoLivesinHyperbolia
“Inga, your link did not work.”
I was asking for a link, lol! Did you mean to do that? That was actually funny.
Assuming Trump said what was reported, it was crude. It was also accurate.
Claiming that it is racist is a sign of either extreme bad faith, profound stupidity, or desperate ignorance.
It is amazing. We have a President who is a foul-mouthed, morally questionable BS artist, and he actually comes across as a much better person that the "proper" people.
To me, it wasn’t the the term shithole he used to describe the countries, it was what he implied by that. This has been said at least four or five times in this thread alone, yet people still think the outrage was over the word shithole to describe the countries in question.
What an ass. I have posted this Durbin quote multiple times, you have seen it, yet you continue to lie.
(Again)Here is what Trump actually said:
“That’s when he used those sickening, heartbreaking remarks, saying, ‘Those shitholes send us the people that they don’t want.’ He repeated that. He didn’t just say it one time,” Durbin said.
That puts an entirely different light on things. Trump is saying the governments of those shithole countries select their worse citizens to allow exit.
Like Cuba and Carter?
“It is amazing. We have a President who is a foul-mouthed, morally questionable BS artist, and he actually comes across as a much better person that the "proper" people.”
Only to the loyal 35%. The rest of us know better, especially by now.
Inga: "You assume that Radical Islamist Terrorists are given a pass by liberals."
Nonsense.
You actively excuse them and provide lame excuses for them like Global Warming and lack of jobs.
We know this because those excuses were official obama government positions and briefed publicly by admin officials. So dont bother pulling your usual schtick about not knowing about it.
Can you imagine how hapoy that makes the terrorists? They murder people and the lefties blame the temperature!
No wonder the terrorists are confident they will beat us.
WooHoo! A Twofer.
“You actively excuse them and provide lame excuses for them like Global Warming and lack of jobs.”
Hyperbole.
“We know this because those excuses were official obama government positions and briefed publicly by admin officials. So dont bother pulling your usual schtick about not knowing about it.”
Mischaracterization.
My husband has been blitzing "The Crown."
It's a good thing Jackie didn't call the Palace a shithole.
She got close, tho, talking about that middling country.
@Inga... If you say the words Allah u akhbar the Muslim is not supposed to kill you.
These last 96 comments are "Saturday night odd"
We get 29 Drago comments
We get 23 Inga comments
We get 10 Fullmoon comments
We get 9 Walter comments
So far, 73 out of the last 96 comments - by four people.
Why not get a room?
Nothing racist about asking why Haitians are given preference in the proposed bill.
@Inga... You may want to start practicing.
It is amazing. We have a President who is a foul-mouthed, morally questionable BS artist,...
But enuf about LBJ.
Just because you see everything in terms of black and white Inga, doesn’t prove anything about anybody else. Have you provided the name of the majority black country with an equivalent educational achievement as Norway? Failing that, have you found where the United States was required to implement affirmative action in our immigration law?
Maybe the simple fact is that nations like Norway have the kinds of skilled workers our economy needs, not just more automation bait that are just going to end up on the dole, or pushing our own unskilled workers out of jobs and onto the dole.
I don’t know why you can’t see that you are making a statement of faith and personal belief, not fact.
These last 96 comments are "Saturday night odd"
We get 29 Drago comments
We get 23 Inga comments
We get 10 Fullmoon comments
We get 9 Walter comments
So far, 73 out of the last 96 comments - by four people.
Interesting.any are on topic?.
“Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals: Response to January 2018 Preliminary Injunction
Versión en español
Jan. 13, 2018, Update: Due to a federal court order, USCIS has resumed accepting requests to renew a grant of deferred action under DACA. Until further notice, and unless otherwise provided in this guidance, the DACA policy will be operated on the terms in place before it was rescinded on Sept. 5, 2017. “
https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/deferred-action-childhood-arrivals-response-january-2018-preliminary-injunction
rcocean,
You're in the room...resident statistician, apparently.
I see our resident bimbo thinks that her vapid pronouncements become witty if she sticks # in front of them.
I'd say #IngaIsRetarded except that insults Down syndrome people who, unlike Inga, are generally sweet and kind.
The left has spent my entire lifetime destroying the guardrails of decent social conduct and now they complain about the use of "shit hole" in a behind closed doors private conversation. So lefty Senator DICK Durban FUCK YOU.
Inga
And the SCOTUS is going to slam a gavel right up that judge's ass.
#ExiledIsAMeanDrunk
I have read and watched most of the coverage with "who cares?" Trump made a critical statement about some third world countries (which most Americans agree with) and D's jumped to exploit it for political advantage.
Now, I read Ann and she makes a point that no one else made. If the comment was so bad, what did Durbin do about it at the time?
KC,
Durbin wasn't concerned about it being "bad", he was ecstatic that it was useful.
He was probably texting his media buds with the scoop while he was in the meeting.
Never forget what this is all really about. The MSM is 100% coordinated and owned by about 20 people. They have to keep the DNC/Russian/FBI collusion story out of the news.
The left is going to scream "RACISM" all spring. They know it is bullshit but they have to hold on to it because they need to justify the violence that is intended this summer. Several Democrats have recently threatened or wished violence against Trump loudly and personally and publicly.
Not one word of condemnation from any other leftists. Just like they cheering Hodgkinson and Rand Paul's attacker who is still being protected by leftists.
They did the same thing to Reagan. There are going to be attempts on Trump's life this summer just like with Reagan. They have done this all before. Democracy is a train they get off of when they don't like where it is going. Their "Russian Collusion" coup failed. They are not going to let their election loss go. They do not accept election losses.
When we turn the oil spigot on, Norway’s economy might not do so well so we might see an increase Norwegian immigration in a few years.
Well..Trump, IIRC referred to Norway's use of "this thing called water" ("hydro").
So they got THAT goin' for 'em.
Did Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) threaten to leave the Oval Office? Did Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) speak sharply to the president, saying no one should speak like that, not in the White House, not in the United States, not in decent society?
No - they deferred to Trump's authority - but Lindsey Grahamnesty turned to Senator Dick Turban, famously responding to the president's thoughtlessness: "There he stands all Spic'n Span. Where were you when the shit hit the fan?"
Inga said...
You see, this is precisely why your over the top nonstop hyperbole is ridiculous. You assume that Radical Islamist Terrorists are given a pass by liberals. You assume so much. You exaggerate so much. You live in your hyperbolic world. When your exaggeration doesn’t work, you outright lie.
If you say mean things about Muslim Child Rape Gangs in England the leftists come after you.
Leftists have been defending Muslim rapists in Europe for decades and hiding the true statistics. Because that is what leftists do. They infest whatever society they area part of and tear it apart.
Every Muslim majority country in the world as wiped out at least one minority. Muslim countries are shitholes where women are property. The leftists want more Muslims from these countries.
Why?
You can say whatever you want Inga. You are not good people. It is the question you refuse to answer. We know why you refuse to answer it.
Blogger gadfly said...
No - they deferred to Trump's authority - but Lindsey Grahamnesty turned to Senator Dick Turban, famously responding to the president's thoughtlessness: "There he stands all Spic'n Span. Where were you when the shit hit the fan?"
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Do 'splain yer poetics
Kinda reads like you don't care for anyone involved...which is yer prerogative.
But..whatcha gonna do..besides preen..and buff the "not my fault" bumper sticker?
I am in complete agreement with Andrew Klavan: “So, when it comes to the Great Shithole Controversy of 2018, my feeling is: I do not care, not even a little. I’m sorry that it takes someone like Trump to break the spell of silence the Left is forever weaving around us. I wish a man like Ronald Reagan would come along and accomplish the same thing with more wit and grace. But that was another culture.“
Was it just last June when Democrat Senator were publicly launching F-bombs in their speeches? Why yes it was. Did Durbin and the press complain then?
Trump was reacting to the Turban Durbin/Grahamnesty plan that "protects" people from shitholes.
I take "protect" as "amnesty" for the favored group.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-attacks-protections-for-immigrants-from-shithole-countries-in-oval-office-meeting/2018/01/11/bfc0725c-f711-11e7-91af-31ac729add94_story.html
> President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they discussed protecting immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to several people briefed on the meeting.
Could this be Trump's maneuver to tie his own hands.
Maybe he is agent Smart working for CHAOS.
We got Trump because of the stupidity of 'politically correct.' Who are we going to get now that calling a shithole a 'shithole' is a flab for bigotry?
What happened to the old "Truth to Power?" from the 60's beloved by the aging folks among us? POTUS Trump is not politically correct which is one of the main reasons he was elected by the "deplorables." The way POTUS Trump speaks may be off-putting to the cocktail crowd who usually have the decency to hide the same language behind a napkin at their cocktail parties-"AHEM! This may come as a shock to some in the audience but their are "Shitholes" aplenty not only in the U.S. but around the world. Maybe we should begin describing them as what the French call them "La Trine" which Mel Brooks used in one of his movies with Cloris Leachman. At Least POTUS Trump cleaned up his act a little when he referred to the Washington shithole as a swamp that needs to be drained. Does that ease the outrage a trifle?
Apparently Sen. Graham did speak up: "(Graham) spoke up and made a direct comment on what the president said,” Durbin told reporters. “For him to confront the president as he did, literally sitting next to him, took extraordinary political courage and I respect him for it.”
Do I trust Sen. Durbin? No. He stated very clearly that a GOP Senator told President Obama, "I cannot even stand to look at you." The Obama White House denied the claim.
Do I trust President Trump? No. He doesn't tell the truth, either.
RE: If it's not racist then why is Trump denying it?
It makes him look bad by using bad language and disparaging other countries. It damages his negotiating position. It may ultimately undermine a deal he wants.
What I don't see in any of the sound and fury being written about this comment is why it is racist. Lots of virtual signaling, and lots of "Well, if you don't know!" I don't hear any adults in the room with a reasoned argument. Certain people are desparate to prove that Trump is a racist, and they have zeroed in on this as their ultimate proof. It's nonsense.
[full disclosure: I don't support Trump. I didn't vote for him. And I don't like him. He doesn't speak for me.]
FullMoon said...
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(Again)Here is what Trump actually said:
“That’s when he used those sickening, heartbreaking remarks, saying, ‘Those shitholes send us the people that they don’t want.’ He repeated that. He didn’t just say it one time,” Durbin said.
That puts an entirely different light on things. Trump is saying the governments of those shithole countries select their worse citizens to allow exit.
Wait a minute! You don't get to claim that Trump made a nuanced, sensible, credible, realistic use of the phrase "shithole countries." Because Trump denies using that phrase, right? And TrumpWorld is somehow banking, on Trump's having never uttered it. They are claiming (wrongly, I think) that Cotton and Perdue are actually denying that Trump said any such thing. TrumpWorld is all united, it seems, in claiming that it is just fake news, to suggest tha Trump ever said, "shithole countries."
This is what I mean, about TrumpWorld trying to have it both ways. Winking and claiming that it was a perfectly okay thing to say among themselves, but denying it in any public forum where Trump would actually have to answer for it.
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