This seems like a not-great poll for Democrats, who had a larger edge on the shutdown-blame question last week.
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) January 22, 2018
They may have started out with the more sympathetic position, but I'm not sure they've had the stronger messaging. Could use more polls, though. https://t.co/7zE4XBX12O
AND: "Senate Votes Overwhelmingly to End Government Shutdown" (NYT).
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Gahrie said...
Does anyone interact with Jell-O anymore? I don't think I have eaten the stuff in... well, I think I did all my Jell-O eating in the 1950s and 60s.
Two words: Jello shots
I was going to say they should just move jello over to the hard alcohol section.
Schumer is getting savaged by the Left for making a deal.
Us here white Southern yokels, we ain't too smart
Slaveowners too had power way out of proportion to their numbers. Hell! They even convinced poor white Southern yokels to fight on their behalf, as well.
Now they are convincing poor inner city yokels to fight for them. They are trying to import more poor illegal unskilled voters.
California is threatening to jail people who obey immigration law.
Democrats just have a fetish with taking advantage of poor people and secession.
I don’t understand why you are so bitter. The entire corrupt leadership of the democrat party is going to be indicted.
Ya know, Trump’s pretty much a big ol' dummy. He didn’t much have a clue as to what the heck was going on. The piece I can’t figure on, how’d that moron do such a tap dance on Dickie D. and Senator Schemer.
Now they are convincing poor inner city yokels to fight for them. They are trying to import more poor illegal unskilled voters.
California is threatening to jail people who obey immigration law.
Democrats just have a fetish with taking advantage of poor people and secession.
I don’t understand why you are so bitter. The entire corrupt leadership of the democrat party is going to be indicted.
I don't think everything about the Trumpist movement is illegitimate - especially depending upon how much the Conniver in Chief tacks back to the left, as inevitably he must eventually do.
I just think the Trumpers are a little gullible, that they put too much faith in the right-wing, and that they mistake his win as a win for the right wing of the Republican party.
In reality, Trump's win was only possible by his co-opting of left-wing/working class rhetoric. We will now see how honestly he means it or how realistically and how much his mostly right-wing policies will do for them.
Life is a balance. I don't believe that Hollywood actresses should be raped but I don't believe that they'll have careers that don't exploit their own sexuality. I don't believe that rapists or over-the-top harassment/exploitation make for good workplaces but I don't believe that a war between the genders or a war on all awkwardness/sexual tension will get anywhere, either.
Life is a balance. Unfortunately for the right-wingers, most Republicans, and basically the Trumpers, I don't think they get this. Everything that their candidate is fighting against are things that the true-believing Reaganites made into their own present-day reality - with the help of the shape-shifting Clintons who enabled the Gingrich-led Republican 1990s Contract with America Congress.
Durn, it's all so clear now
I don’t understand why you are so bitter. The entire corrupt leadership of the democrat party is going to be indicted.
Bitter? I'm just not a moron. I'm not gullible, either - or hateful. You hate Democrats. Guess what? No one cares. Their "entire leadership" is not going to get indicted. Trump people, in apparent emulation of their leader - (or at least his rhetoric), don't have a clue as to how the law actually works. I don't have to love the DNC leadership to get this, either. I hate their leadership, think they're corrupt, need to get thrown out/changed. But they've broken no laws, I'm pretty sure of that. You listen to too much propaganda. Their problems are political, (and maybe moral). But not legal. Trump has a well-known fetish for threatening lawsuits that he can never win on, just to intimidate his opponents with well-funded legal drama that can never go anywhere. If you knew a single thing about the guy you'd know that much. It sounds like he's getting you to buy into his lawyerly Kool-Aid circus.
Don't you just hate it when life when your life is out of balance
Don't you just hate it when life when your life is out of balance.
Not if your name is "Trump."
If your name is Trump you thrive off of it. You derive great pleasure and satisfaction off of it.
All narcissists do.
You Trump-lovers never actually met any narcissists, did you? Or I guess you just wouldn't recognize them if you did.
Trump's swindled a lot of people - as his party has done. There's a possibility he isn't in the midst of swindling the country and (especially) his die-hard supporters. But I'll believe it when I see it. Remember, most Republican-made crises take about a good ten years to materialize after they dismantle all the safeguards that kept them from happening. The American ship of state is large and mighty, and takes a long time to course-correct. And a long time to start noticing the leaks the Republicans make, let alone the fact that they're starting to get it to sink.
I can understand why you feel that way. Life's a bummer some times.
I’d like to chat a while longer, but it’s getting sorta late and I gotta take the dog out before I hit the hay. Catch ya later
Life's a bummer some times.
For the working poor in America, it usually is. It's been that way ever since Reagan went to war against the unions and brought in his CEOs and Arthur Laffer to run the country for their benefit alone.
But I'm not working class. I don't have to be. I've worked hard enough at enough gigs to understand however that American society is a balance. Any country's is. You can't have a country and you can't have patriotism if you have an economy that is only designed to work for the owners. That's what people found out in 1929 and the 1930s. If you do then you either offer them recourse or just tell them to hate the foreigners. At that point they don't mind and will direct their scourge against anyone.
So I'm just an ordinary American citizen who understands the dangers of unbalancing the country and likes to avoid that. That's my story. But you talk in cryptic propaganda without any actual answer or explanation as to why you're so hard-core on the Trump train. What's your story, then? Or is it just the same old white identity politics/ethnic pride that causes you to offer ironic silly one-liners about how ignorant yokels are awesome and if they only got their way more often, then the stupidity would be awesome for everybody.
I get it. You're one of the more "soft-spoken" right-wing blowhards. Be quiet and secretive, adopt a persona and just speak in tongues. Just like with Trump, it's important to you to make sure you don't reveal too much about yourself and what you're really about. People might catch on. You probably don't even know what you stand for. Most Trump-teedles don't, really.
”Life’s a bummer some times."
For the working poor in America, it usually is.
So lets flood their labor market with illegal workers who don’t ask for labor protections, and are willing to work really cheap!
LOL, you knew when you saw the number of posts that Dr TTR, long distance psychoanalyst was back in his cups.
You hate Trump because he keeps kicking your ass. You wanted somebody who was kicking Republicans' ass constantly, and keeping REPUBLICANS off balance.
No doubt you are totally correct, Toothless. Napoleon gave me good advice in situations like these.
I don't know if I speak for many people, but I'm biased against anyone refusing to vote for a budget based on some non-budget reason. There's no obligation to vote for a budget you don't like, but if your issue is with something separate from the budget--even if it is a good policy!--then you're just holding the budget hostage for some concession you otherwise couldn't win on. Sure, that may be the way the game is played, but it loses sympathy from many of us because it injects something irrelevant into a key government function (i.e., funding its operations). This is likely why many who hated the ACA still blamed the GOP for the 2013 shutdown, and why many who favored DACA still blamed the Dems for this one.
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