#1 Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?ALSO: "Before targeting the Route 91 Harvest music festival, Paddock rented a room at a condominium complex overlooking the Life is Beautiful music festival, another downtown event held between September 22 to September 25.... 'Was he doing pre-surveillance?'..." (CNN).
#2 Were there additional shooters?... #3 Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor”...
#4 As Jon Rappoport has pointed out, it would have been impossible for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used. So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?
#5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?...
#7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die 45 minutes before the attack?...
#15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?…
AND: In case you're wondering why I linked to that and whether I'm a conspiracy-theory nut, I got to that list of #16 via Drudge who has this list of links at the top of the page today:
MORE: "There was a note in his hotel room whose exact contents the authorities have yet to reveal. Sheriff Lombardo said that it contained numbers that were being analyzed for their relevance, and that it was not a manifesto or suicide note" (NYT).
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 216 of 216The brother, Eric Paddock, seems to be an idiot. Anything he says should be ignored.
I do not trust the local cops or the FBI. I do trust the Trump administration and I hope that Trump is following the investigation closely.
I did not know what a “bump stock” was until I did some research on the topic. In my opinion, bump stocks represent a loophole in the law that should be corrected immediately. I do not want factories making these devices; I do not want bump stocks available from retailers; I do want anyone making a profit from bump stocks.
I am now strongly doubting any ISIS connection.
I doubt that the shooter was rightwing. If he were surely it would be known by now. Bad news for the right always seems to break quickly and bigly.
As for possible leftwing-derived motivation, the shooter doesn’t fit my profile of a Lefty. The pussyhat video is too blurry for me to get much from it and the subject seems typical of the middle-aged, portly, male Lefty do-gooders out doing their part for the Resistance.
Right now the arguments that favor a brain tumor or a pharmacological cause seem the most credible to me.
It bothers me that the investigation spokespeople are saying “we may never know his motivation.” It’s like they’ve already given up.
I do not believe he necessarily had to have had help. I haven’t seen anything yet that couldn’t be done by one person. He had months to prepare.
The bullet count vs amount of damage theory seems to me to be fatally flawed. Shooting into a bunched crowd means several people can be wounded by the same round. To effect this the shooter had only to aim at the exits where the victims were all bunched up.
We need to know what was written on the note. That the investigators will not tell us, even with just a general description, is troubling. Telling us what it is not is not being very informative. I wonder if the video with the note was leaked so that the note did not conveniently disappear before it could be known it existed.
One thing for sure: The shooter is not typical of any kind of shooter seen before.
Chuck said...
Right. I presumed, without even checking, that Althouse got to the website of a prepper/rapturist via a Drudge link. Over the last 36 hours, Drudge has even linked to InfoWars. Without irony.
10/5/17, 10:40 AM
Drudge has always linked to fringe stuff. His point is to level the field between the MSM and the New Media, including the fringe stuff. His curation is not about endorsement, au contraire, he wants you to see how insane all news reporting is.
I wonder if the video with the note was leaked so that the note did not conveniently disappear before it could be known it existed.
Grackle, I do believe the video was leaked for that purpose. Initially, only the British media covered it and drew attention to the fact that there was a note and showing the photo of it. I'm sure that, had it not been leaked, there would never have been a note. As it is, the FBI is likely concocting some alternate 'note' to make public. I don't trust them.
How do you break open two windows on the upper floors of a hotel and not have anyone notice it?
Do it at night, during a country western concert, and immediately start killing people.....
On a more prosaic note, you could also lay a sticky film over the inside of the window that will catch the broken glass and allow you to pull it in side the room. That said shooting also probably works.
As it is, the FBI is likely concocting some alternate 'note' to make public. I don't trust them.
God damn it, I don't mean to sound like Robert Cook, but the people have a right to know! And the fact is the FBI has played fast and loose before in this regard. Think of the call transcripts for the Orlando shooting, or was it the San Bernardino shooting, where they didn't want to admit that the guy was all about Allah?
God damn it, I don't mean to sound like Robert Cook, but the people have a right to know!
BL, most certainly the victims and their families have a right to know what prompted this massacre. For the FBI to say 'we may never know' sound suspiciously like what is often said regarding the motives of terrorists. As if the motive of someone named Muhammed was ever in question.
The points are worth taking on one by one:
#1 … photos appears to show a suicide note. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?
This looks like subterfuge. Reporters at the next presser should push for full disclosure of what is on the note.
#2 Were there additional shooters?
I’ve yet to see credible evidence of additional shooters.
… it would have been impossible for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used …
This theory is fatally flawed. Multiple casualties can be caused by one high-powered military-grade round fired into a crowd. Bullets can ricochet off of pavement.
#5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?...
There were 23 weapons, some of which were handguns, in the hotel room – NOT “42 guns.” The shooter had three days after check-in to carry the guns, ammo and other equipment to his room. I’m 74 years old and I’ll bet my savings account that I could easily place all the same items in a hotel room within a single 24-hour period.
#7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die 45 minutes before the attack?...
We are told by the witness that the alleged woman was trying to break into the line to buy tickets. Why buy a ticket to a bloodbath? The story doesn’t make sense. Supposedly the woman was ejected by security. I’ll wait to hear from security.
#15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?…
I have yet to see evidence that the exits were blocked by anything but a panicked crowd looking to escape a shooting.
#15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LAhEpQ0_cQ
Here they go again focusing on the guns and gadgets rather than starting with the question of how could this have been prevented in the first place.
Maybe it could have been prevented with better security. Remember, Las Vegas has been specifically targeted by ISIS, and given their record it appears it would have been quite appropriate to devote some serious attention to threats against large gatherings. It is apparent to me that Las Vegas did not do this.
The security they had didn't consider the basic security situation: a gathering of 20+ thousand people below a perfect sniper(s) position that was 35 stories or so high. Without guard towers manned with sharpshooters watching the building you have what is basically a huge attraction (much like so called "gun free" zones) for anyone wanting to harm people.
A better alternative would have been to have held the concert at a different, less vulnerable location.
Seems to me that the families of the dead and those who were wounded have good cause to sue for negligence on the part of the event operator. (I also believe that is true of every other "gun free" zone where similar murders have occurred).
Could it be that he was a nut? That the suicide note was a reciept, that no one bothered to worry about the middle aged white guy carrying duffle bags full of stuff up to his room because honest to Christ who would have thought someone would do this?
Let's call it "failure of imagination"
> "Ann, why do you continue to traffic in this shit? You are becoming just another right wing conspiracy nut."
Just one word: Russia.
1) Why do police/authorities ever keep evidence close to the vest? Why do they essentially never let physical facts be released so we can draw our own conclusions and let cards fall where they may? It would be unusual if at this point they did release it.
2) No, there is no video of another shooter. None of the windows open. There are a whole lot of people and cameras who were watching that building facade, and there ain’t no time periods where a window was out on a lower floor.
3) Because they had a report of another shooter. What, they’re supposed to not talk to each other about it while they check it out and discover it’s bogus? Are they supposed to communicate be mime?
4) Neither Rappaport nor anyone else has shown he could not do what he was purported to have done. An experienced shooter in bump firing could have sent at least 3,000 and up to 5,000 rounds into a beaten zone of a few degrees in conical projection into the packed crowd, and into thickets of people crowding exits. The slant range made it a certainty any bullet not hitting a bone had a decent chance of hitting more than one person as much as it had a chance of hitting no one.
5) I know of no reason what he had could not fit into two steamer trunks, or why him carrying that into his room over several day’s time would even by noticed.
6) These aren't advanced weapons. Any average person could train themselves to do what he did in a few month’s time. A lifetime of going to a range a few times a year, with a few trips to the backcountry to shoot downhill would be more than is required. Do these morons actually expect us to think average hunters suddenly can't hit within a few degrees because they are shooting up or down a hill? As for the “physique”
think, most hunters I know are not Charles Atlas types—and if they took it into their head to do this kind of thing, they could get it done with a few month’s prep.
7) Is anyone at this point actually willing to testify this person existed? For that matter, in most urban centers you can find someone ranting about the end of the world being nigh! So what?
8) Asked and answered here already. It takes time for the pseudo-ninjas to gear up and do their thing, and after Paddock ventilated the hotel hallway and security guard, they were going go gear up and do it right. After all, it is still police doctrine that them going home at night is more important than anything else.
9) Why did Hitler pet his dogs? (which dogs, yes, he had poisoned as far as I know).
10) He told her to go visit family. How hard would sugar baby disagree with sugar daddy?
11) Could be. It is unlikely that if he were, that we won’t know.
12) Because we have ISIS covered up with surveillance and we think we’d know if they were involved. Why would they claim something they can’t prove – Have you seen what we’re doing to them? They need some good press. (rom their perspective.)
13) Why did Howard Hughes collect his own pee and use tissue boxes for slippers?
14) He wanted to? Thought of himself as a high roller, and thought that was how to do business.
15) Same reason other venues don’t have more fire doors than the Fire Marshal insists on, to control foot traffic to paying customers. What evidence is there any potential exits were unusually “blocked”. “From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive. “ But RE #4, we are supposed to believe no one could do what he did.
16) Was there any reason to think a country music festival was chosen? Is there any reason he chose
a country music festival? He tried to get other hotels overlooking other big outdoor crowds of people. Is it so hard to believe he took the first opportunity that suited him? Why think anitfa is there evidence for that?
Questions, especially baseless questions, are not evidence, neither are patently absurd assertions (like Rappaport’s).
We’ll know what we know when we know it. There is no evidence of anything other than Paddock doing this by his lonesome for his own insane, evil reasons.
So far, no one has answered the Why is the FBI involved question, so let me re-ask it.
Yeah, I started to speculate that someone said something to him in his earpiece and that's what made him turn around but I'm not sure if those act as just a monitor
The sound board for the mains is out in the audience. They could have heard the shots, as they would be at the same volume level as the crowd. And yes, they can talk to the performers through the monitors, whether they be ear wigs or speakers on the floor. Monitor mix is usually run from one side of the stage so that a performer can easily communicate with the sound man, signal for more of this or that in the monitor mix. The sound man's behind the mains and it is much quieter there than anywhere else in the venue. So they also could have heard the shots and then informed the performers to get the hell off of the stage.
So far, no one has answered the Why is the FBI involved question, so let me re-ask it.
I'd like a good answer to that too.
I use the do not disturb sign in hotel rooms. But I always assume someone may come in. So I lock my valuables, including my work laptop, in the safe - I know someone could easily hack it, but it is just an extra layer of security. This guy depended on the tiny do not disturb sign to cover his 10+ guns and thousands of rounds? How many suitcases were in his room? He was so methodical and left that to chance?
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