Althouse: "It sounds very strange when the head of the security services writes down a conversation with the commander-in-chief and then leaks it to the media through his friend."

June 15, 2017

"It sounds very strange when the head of the security services writes down a conversation with the commander-in-chief and then leaks it to the media through his friend."

"How, in that case, does he differ from [Edward] Snowden?... That means he is not the leader of the security services, but a human rights defender. And if he faces pressure, then we are happy to offer him political asylum too."

Said Vladimir Putin, in a long phone-in TV show he did today, taking questions from the Russian people. That's humor, by the way, in case it's not apparent to you.

157 comments:

Achilles said...: Wow. I laughed.

Thanks Ann.; 6/15/17, 9:54 AM
n.n said...: It's not humor. It's full on laughter, at our expense.

Another reason to invade Russia and drag Putin through the streets... and perhaps one or two American ambassadors.; 6/15/17, 9:56 AM
Unknown said...: "It's not humor! Comey is in league with TrumpHitler and Putin to enforce Nazism on us all! We must all be more patriotic and kill every Nazi we can!!!!!!!!!!! And who is a Nazi? Why, anyone who doesn't agree with us! Comrades, to the rifles! The Glorious Revolution is in danger of failing, and we must exterminate all who oppose us now!!!!!!"

/ So says our resident leftist brigade, only one of whom even seemed remotely sorry that their side caused a political assassination attempt yesterday.

Oh, and Terry Pratchett once pointed out that 5 exclamation points was the sure sign of a diseased mind.

--Vance; 6/15/17, 9:57 AM
David Begley said...: Putin has achieved all of his objectives. The US has been distracted for 6 months. Thanks Dems and MSM!; 6/15/17, 9:58 AM
SayAahh said...: Vlad is operating at genius level.
Entirely consistent with his KGB experience.
He has brought this country to its knees.
Another form of terrorism.; 6/15/17, 10:01 AM
JackWayne said...: Good humor always has a strand of Truth in it.; 6/15/17, 10:02 AM
Sebastian said...: "It sounds very strange when the head of the security services writes down a conversation with the commander-in-chief and then leaks it to the media through his friend." Humorous or not, it is strange, and Putin has the US elite pegged for their eagerness to take down the elected leader and pursue their own power, country be damned. His comments show, as yours truly has argued here, that the real benefit to the Russians is the demonstration of US weakness evident in the willingness of the establishment to screw the system, no matter the cost. It is "very strange," unless you realize that the national interest is not the swamp's interest.

The real pro-Russian collusion is between the MSM and Dem officials, to take down the administration and obstruct any action in DC, purely for domestic benefit. It must be delicious to Putin that an entirely phony accusation of collusion with and "hacking" by "the Russians" would be exploited by prog Dems to strengthen his hand in fact.; 6/15/17, 10:02 AM
madAsHell said...: Why has no one gone to jail??; 6/15/17, 10:04 AM
Chuck said...: I see some humor in Putin's attitude; mostly none in his actual comments. I see a kind of horrific irony. Wherein a Russian/former Soviet KGB officer views the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation as the head of a "security service." The head of a security service whose mission is supposedly the protection at all costs of the head of state.

I'd like to hear more from Althouse on the nature of what she thinks is any humor in this entire story.

I do recall an old speech from Justice Scalia where he commented on the content of the Soviet constitution and its equivalent of the Bill of Rights. And how it all looked great on paper; just like our own founding documents. But how it meant nothing, without a rule of law culture.; 6/15/17, 10:07 AM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: The Russians must be laughing their asses off at the absolute stupidity of the American public, the media, the Dimms and at the gobsmacked worthless responses by the GOP.

They are probably bemused, amused and dumbfounded at our suicide rush to dissolve our country. Doing the work FOR them.; 6/15/17, 10:09 AM
D. B. Light said...: World-class trollery.; 6/15/17, 10:09 AM
Nonapod said...: Vladimir Putin is nothing if not a champion of human rights, an unimpeachable avatar for the oppressed. Fantastic. Comey has some real winners standing up for him.; 6/15/17, 10:10 AM
Michael K said...: If someone showed that Putin is the one supporting Democrats, not Soros, I would not be surprised.; 6/15/17, 10:12 AM
traditionalguy said...: Putin is right. Our slow motion national Coup de Etat to reverse a rogue election result makes us a laughing stock. And the Congressional GOP leaders, who are paid for Globalists, are laughing the loudest, while they do nothing to stop it.

Sending out a crazy loner with a gun as a one man assassination squad is classic CIA technique. That warning is loud and clear. But what will they do if DJT survives this?; 6/15/17, 10:12 AM
urbane legend said...: Jack Wayne said...
Good humor always has a strand of Truth in it.

And I thought it was just ice cream.; 6/15/17, 10:19 AM
Mike Sylwester said...: When Robert Mueller -- the BFF of "Crazy Comey the Leaker" -- was himself the FBI Director, his FBI leaked information systematically in an effort to bully Steven Hatfill into a confession that he was the anthrax culprit.

The Wikipedia article about Hatfill reports:

[quote]

... Hatfill became "the subject of a flood of news media coverage beginning in mid-2002, after television cameras showed FBI agents in biohazard suits searching his apartment" and then Attorney General John Ashcroft named him "person of interest" in the investigation on national television. Hatfill's home was repeatedly raided by the FBI, his phone was tapped, and he was extensively surveilled for more than two years ...

At a news conference in August 2002, Hatfill tearfully denied that he had anything to do with the anthrax letters and said irresponsible news media coverage based on government leaks had destroyed his reputation".

Hatfill filed a lawsuit in 2003, accusing the FBI agents and Justice Department officials who led the criminal investigation of leaking information about him to the press in violation of the federal Privacy Act.

In 2008, the government settled Hatfill's lawsuit for $4.6 million and officially exonerated Hatfill of any involvement in the anthrax attacks, and the Justice Department identified another military scientist, Bruce Edward Ivins, as the sole perpetrator of the anthrax attacks. ...

In 2004, Hatfill filed lawsuits against several periodicals and journalists who had identified him as a figure warranting further investigation in the anthrax attacks. Hatfill sued the New York Times Company and New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof for defamation, defamation per se, and intentional infliction of emotional distress in connection with five of Kristof's columns in 2002. The courts dismissed this suit, finding that Hatfill was a limited purpose public figure.

In 2007, Hatfill settled a similar libel lawsuit against Vanity Fair and Reader's Digest for an undisclosed amount, after both magazines agreed to formally retract any implication that Hatfill was involved in the anthrax mailings.

[unquote]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill

Robert Mueller thinks that leaking information to bully people is a useful tool for an FBI Director to use on occasion.; 6/15/17, 10:21 AM
Ralph L said...: I'll bet Trump put Putin up to this.; 6/15/17, 10:21 AM
Nonapod said...: I'll bet Trump put Putin up to this.

If he did, I look forward to more awesome collusion shenanigans. I hope Trump and Poots take their show to Broadway.; 6/15/17, 10:24 AM
rhhardin said...: If Putin is laughing at the US media, it proves he's conspiring with Trump.

Nothing on earth is actually funny. Droll but lofty planet. (Lautreamont); 6/15/17, 10:26 AM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: It certainly is very strange. Possibly illegal. Yet our media studiously ignore those facts. Czar P is just humiliating our ruling class now.; 6/15/17, 10:27 AM
eric said...: The Democrats wont stop until they've made the United States into an international punch line. One they can blame on Trump.; 6/15/17, 10:28 AM
Jaq said...: We made ourselves ridiculous, who can blame him for enjoying it and bonding with his own people at the same time?; 6/15/17, 10:29 AM
David Begley said...: Mike S:

The lawyer in that case got $4.6m for his client. He recently spoke at Creighton Law School about the case. Quite the story.; 6/15/17, 10:30 AM
Michael K said...: David, I'd love to hear some inside dope on that story. Do a guest post on Powerline sometime, would you ?

Now might be a good occasion with Mueller sniffing after Trump.; 6/15/17, 10:52 AM
Kevin said...: You can't take down "Trump's Government" and leave the government standing. You can either take down "THE Government" or you can leave Trump in power.

The question is which outcome the Left is more comfortable with...; 6/15/17, 10:52 AM
Oso Negro said...: Whatever else can be said of Putin, he certainly has a good sense of humor.; 6/15/17, 10:56 AM
Yancey Ward said...: That was a master class on trolling.

Also, Dust Bunny Queen nails it- nothing more to write.; 6/15/17, 10:59 AM
exhelodrvr1 said...: It's humor that makes a valid point. THat the Demos can't comprehend.; 6/15/17, 11:04 AM
Unknown said...: "Now might be a good occasion with Mueller sniffing after Trump."

Really. Sniffing Trump's farts.

Just love how the Trumpski's perform every pretzel position for their god Trump. And, what do they teach you at Sunday School about worshipping false gods. Never mind.

Trump is under investigation for obstruction of justice and financial misdeeds (ie. money-laundering). Comey's testimony last week was just laying the ground for Mueller. And, the Trumpski's thought it was all over after Comey's testimony. Huh, ain't seen nuffin yet.; 6/15/17, 11:10 AM
Bay Area Guy said...: Vlad 1, Comey 0.

That ex-Commie is filled with mirth!; 6/15/17, 11:10 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: OT:

Sue the lying NYT M*Fers.

Palin should sue the NYT for its editorial blaming her for inciting the Gabby Giffords shooting; Update: “Sickening”; Update: NYT corrects; Update: Palin considers lawsuit; 6/15/17, 11:13 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Sue the NYT into the ground, Sarah. We are behind you. NYT - Lying liar m*F leftwing progressive corrupt democrats.; 6/15/17, 11:14 AM
Achilles said...: 6/15/17, 10:29 AM
Blogger David Begley said...
"Mike S:

The lawyer in that case got $4.6m for his client. He recently spoke at Creighton Law School about the case. Quite the story."

Mueller needs to resign. Trump should not be forced to fire him. The FBI has been corrupt and due for an enema for a long time.; 6/15/17, 11:15 AM
3MartiniLunch said...: In 2004, Hatfill filed lawsuits against several periodicals and journalists who had identified him as a figure warranting further investigation in the anthrax attacks. Hatfill sued the New York Times Company and New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof for defamation, defamation per se, and intentional infliction of emotional distress in connection with five of Kristof's columns in 2002. The courts dismissed this suit, finding that Hatfill was a limited purpose public figure.

So a guy who would not otherwise have been a public figure is precluded from suing the people/institutions who made him a public figure and defamed him because, wait for it - he's a public figure...

More proof that lawyers are nothing more than charlatans and mountebanks, eschewing truth seeking for fact twisting, all in the goal of winning at all cost. They are all, every last one of them, pustuled, boil encrusted ticks, sucking the life blood out of our society - to their own immense profit, and our expense.; 6/15/17, 11:19 AM
stlcdr said...: I can imagine:

"Putin then leans forward, across the table, with that casual air of someone about to tell a secret: 'you understand, if I was in charge, none of this would ever have happened'."; 6/15/17, 11:19 AM
Anonymous said...: I'm sure Putin is laughing his ass off at how successful they were in destabilizing our democracy. Hilarious, huh?; 6/15/17, 11:19 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Inga - Do you know if the Russians who hacked Podesta and the DNC were under Putin's control?

btw- It's been established that a 3rd grader could have hacked Podesta. boo hoo for us that the e-mails revealed corruption and money-grubbing on the left. *Coke-a-cola* achew*
That sort of destabilization is perfectly cool.; 6/15/17, 11:22 AM
Kevin said...: I'm sure Putin is laughing his ass off at how successful they were in destabilizing our democracy.

Don't give them too much credit. They could never have dreamed of getting this far on their own.; 6/15/17, 11:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Humor? Gallows humor.

I am increasingly impressed at Putin. Yes, I'm a slow learner. And the fact that he is where he is, and has stayed there for so long, should have long ago been ample proof of his talent and skill and patience and etc.

But his cold and low-key intelligence, his lack of ego-stroking appetite, are disarming. He is hard to keep in focus. It is hard to follow his inward enjoyment of impersonal ironies; the ironies of the chessboard, where one (seemingly brilliant) early move produces, many moves later, a trap and a terrible, inevitable, reckoning.

Here he sizes up our "security apparatus" and finds it and us...quietly hilarious.

Well, for him, maybe it is. As the joke goes, "Comedy is when a piano falls on you. Tragedy is when I get a hangnail."

What is Russian for 'popcorn'?; 6/15/17, 11:23 AM
Michael K said...: "Now might be a good occasion with Mueller sniffing after Trump."

Really. Sniffing Trump's farts.

Just love how the Trumpski's perform every pretzel position for their god Trump.

If you think Mueller is sniffing Trump's farts, who am I to argue with you?; 6/15/17, 11:25 AM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...: "I'm sure Putin is laughing his ass off at how successful they were in destabilizing our democracy"

I'm sure he is too. Well done, Golden Shower Left.; 6/15/17, 11:25 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Did Anthony Weiner destabilize democracy when he grabbed his dick while chatting with a 15 year old girl multi-tasking the transfer and print out of classified Clinton Private Server e-mail data? Or did Comey - when he pointed it out?

Cuz - that would be cool.; 6/15/17, 11:26 AM
Achilles said...: "Just love how the Trumpski's perform every pretzel position for their god Trump. And, what do they teach you at Sunday School about worshipping false gods. Never mind."

Stalinists like most other branches of the Marxist tree were atheists.

Don't worry we see you for what you really are.; 6/15/17, 11:31 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: 2 types of progressive Stalinists

1) the liars at the top
2) the idiots who eat the lies without question; 6/15/17, 11:34 AM
Dude1394 said...: Heh...Putin is funny. And to be honest I think the democrat media party is more dangerous to the country than russia is.; 6/15/17, 11:36 AM
Achilles said...: Blogger Inga said...
"I'm sure Putin is laughing his ass off at how successful they were in destabilizing our democracy. Hilarious, huh?"

Putin had nothing to do with what you stalinists are trying to pull and you know it.

If you don't oh well. Nobody is going to feel bad either way. There are always a bunch of idiots who help leftists seize power.

How committed to destroying our political system are you?; 6/15/17, 11:41 AM
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n.n said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/15/17, 11:57 AM
Anonymous said...: "Putin had nothing to do with what you stalinists are trying to pull and you know it. "

Ohhhhh Hahahaha! You couldn't have parodied yourself better, lol!; 6/15/17, 11:57 AM
Jaq said...: I'm sure Putin is laughing his ass off at how successful they were in destabilizing our democracy. Hilarious, huh?

You know, Putin would be saying the exact same thing if, let's say, he had nothing to do with the whole thing and one political party dragged his name into it for no real reason while working around the clock to undermine a democratic and lawful election where they did not like the result. All Russian cynicism about US democracy would be validated by such a scenario. But that's impossible because reasons!; 6/15/17, 11:58 AM
n.n said...: Dust Bunny Queen:

They are not amused. They do not seek dissolution of America and Europe. They already have nuclear armed Chinese with a million army (and millions to step in) and hostile Muslims to contend with. I don't think they would want America and Europe to fall into the wrong hands, too. But after Ukraine, Syria, Libya, etc., who knows. Perhaps America and Europe have become progressive liabilities.; 6/15/17, 11:58 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Do all the liars in the mainstream press destabilize democracy?
So much lying. "It was the video" "shadowing character" "Sarah Palin inspired a murder" "Hands up don't shoot" "Trump peed on the mattresses, obstructed Justice by firing an unfit employee, and "stole the election from poor hillary with help from Poot"" & the obvious coordinated Schumer-media talking point "Dark cloud, smoke and stench"

Lies. The msm is a sad heap of lies.; 6/15/17, 12:00 PM
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...: "2) the idiots who eat the lies without question"

Democrats absolutely adore being lied to.; 6/15/17, 12:04 PM
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Anonymous said...: Our American media are not the enemy of the people. Putin is not our friend. You people are truly amazingly dangerously confused. That you trust Putin above your fellow Americans tells the tale. FUBAR.; 6/15/17, 12:07 PM
Richard Dolan said...: It's humor and it's funny because it's not just humor.; 6/15/17, 12:08 PM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: n.n. said: They are not amused. They do not seek dissolution of America and Europe. They already have nuclear armed Chinese with a million army (and millions to step in) and hostile Muslims to contend with

I'm sure you are right. It is in OUR best interest and that of Russia to at least be friendly adversaries against the real and immediate threats that we are facing. This is why I do not understand the warped mentality of the Inga's and Dimm(itudes) who insist on trying to make Russia into a giant boogeyman. It is completely counter productive and against all rational rules of diplomacy.

Does this mean that we should be BFFs with Russia? Hardly. But why pick enemies when you don't need to?

It reminds me of the last words of Voltaire on his death bed when asked by a priest to renounce Satan. “Now, now my good man, this is no time to be making enemies."

Even IF Russia is appalled by our idiocy......it still has to be hard not to laugh at the clowns falling out of the clown car.; 6/15/17, 12:10 PM
Quaestor said...: Inga wrote: Our American media are not the enemy of the people. Putin is not our friend. You people are truly amazingly dangerously confused. That you trust Putin above your fellow Americans tells the tale. FUBAR.

The authentic voice of the True Believer. That which contradicts the high priest must be false.; 6/15/17, 12:13 PM
Michael K said...: ".it still has to be hard not to laugh at the clowns falling out of the clown car."

Now you be nice to Inga. She has been asking Ann to provide a safe space for her.; 6/15/17, 12:14 PM
SukieTawdry said...: Well, Vlad always has been a funny, funny guy.; 6/15/17, 12:16 PM
Quaestor said...: Vlad the Impailer just stuck it to you, Inga.; 6/15/17, 12:18 PM
Char Char Binks, Esq. said...: Needs a humor tag.; 6/15/17, 12:18 PM
Achilles said...: Inga said...
Our American media are not the enemy of the people. Putin is not our friend. You people are truly amazingly dangerously confused. That you trust Putin above your fellow Americans tells the tale. FUBAR.

Obama promises more flexibility with Russia after the election.

The 80's called and they want their foreign policy back.

There is no depth the stalinist left is not willing to sink to usurp power. No level of hypocrisy that is too disturbing.; 6/15/17, 12:21 PM
Anonymous said...: "Now you be nice to Inga. She has been asking Ann to provide a safe space for her."

I have? That's news to me.; 6/15/17, 12:22 PM
Achilles said...: Reposted here for effect.

53% of the country thinks 30% of the country is pedaling treasonous shit. 18% undecided/cowardly.; 6/15/17, 12:24 PM
Anonymous said...: Also Michael K,
If I were looking for "safe spaces" I certainly wouldn't be commenting here at Althouse.; 6/15/17, 12:27 PM
Bad Lieutenant said...: Well, Inga, like it or not, Ann has decided that is what you shall have.; 6/15/17, 12:37 PM
exhelodrvr1 said...: "Our American media are not the enemy of the people"

They are clearly the enemy of the truth.

Yet you claim they are not also the enemy of the people - I don't know if how I feel about that says more about you or about me.; 6/15/17, 12:37 PM
Quaestor said...: Inga wrote: Our American media are not the enemy of the people. Putin is not our friend. You people are truly amazingly dangerously confused. That you trust Putin above your fellow Americans tells the tale. FUBAR.

Shall we deconstruct this miscarriage?

1. Our American media are not the enemy of the people
Assumes facts not in evidence. The attempted mass murder of Republican congressmen strongly contradicts the claim.

2. Putin is not our friend
Irrelevent. The man who discounts the wisdom of his enemy is a fool.

3. You people are truly amazingly dangerously confused.
Assumes facts not in evidence. Note point 2.

4 That you trust Putin above your fellow Americans tells the tale.
No one here has asserted a particular trust in Putin. It seems Inga is the one who is dangerously confused. Trump is also your fellow America, isn't he?

5 FUBAR
Bullshit; 6/15/17, 12:39 PM
Anonymous said...: Shall we deconstruct your miscarriage? Yes indeed we should.

1. Our American media are not the enemy of the people
"Assumes facts not in evidence. The attempted mass murder of Republican congressmen strongly contradicts the claim."
Assumes facts not in evidence. The attempted mass murder of Republican congressmen has nothing to do with the Media.

2. Putin is not our friend
"Irrelevant. The man who discounts the wisdom of his enemy is a fool."
Oh I certainly don't think Putin is unwise. He's wise enough to know how to use Trump and how to try to subvert our democracy. He depends on your continued support.

3. You people are truly amazingly dangerously confused.
"Assumes facts not in evidence. Note point 2."
Evidence clearly points to your confusion. When you cannot clearly recognize that attempting to influence our elections is not a danger to us, you are a fool.

4 That you trust Putin above your fellow Americans tells the tale.
"No one here has asserted a particular trust in Putin. It seems Inga is the one who is dangerously confused. Trump is also your fellow America, isn't he?"
Au contraire. There are several pro Putin comments in this thread.

5 FUBAR
"Bullshit"
Bullshit.; 6/15/17, 12:59 PM
Fen said...: Always good to hear from the traitorous cunt.; 6/15/17, 1:03 PM
HoodlumDoodlum said...: Eh, I remember during the W years the Media told me the rest of the world laughed at us, at how backwards we were, etc. Then during the O years the rest of the world allegedly loved us, saw us as smart and progressive, etc. Now during the T years we've got ol' Vlad crackin' jokes.

Maybe other nations are primarily concerned with their own issues, desires, etc, and see US topics through the lens of their own self-interested motivation(s).; 6/15/17, 1:08 PM
Unknown said...: The only admiration people have for Putin is the clear fact that unlike the left in Europe and America, Putin loves his country and wants his country and his people to succeed.

Our left hates America, hates Americans, and is doing all they can to destroy America and its culture of freedom and responsibility. This is rapidly escalating to murdering people the left doesn't like. I again point out that the only leftist who comments here at Althouse who condemned the shooting of Representative Scalise yesterday was Sunsong. Every other leftist refused to do so, including you, Inga, despite repeated invitations to do just that.

I don't like Putin, but I wish we had people who actually liked America and American values as our leader. Instead of people like Schumer, Merkel, Macron, Reid, Hillary and Obama, all of whom are quite open with their hatred and disdain of the West and western values such as the individual worth of mankind. You guys love Venezuela, Che, Castro, and Stalin. And some of the leftists who post here openly announce how they can watch people get "cold-cocked" all day long because they are "Nazis." And who else are Nazis? Why, all Republicans and Trump Voters are Nazis. Right, Inga?

I'm sure you remember some of your fellow leftists poisoning Robert Spencer, head of JihadWatch. Remember how you didn't say a word about how that was wrong? Or Antifa attacking people? Maybe BLM killing a few police officers, tragic to be sure but who can blame them? Whitey has to be punished!

Our Media hates, hates, hates Americans who don't think Mao or Stalin were the greatest humans ever. They openly call for violent overthrow of the US Government, and you and yours say nothing or cheer. Madonna wants to blow up the White House, and that's a-ok with you.

At best, when pressed you say "I don't condone violence and you can't lump me in with all those who do! But all you Republicans are guilty, guilty, guilty for Gabby Giffords! And every Republican or Trump voter is a neo-confederate racist hate monger for Dylan Roof! Burn down the South! I'm completely innocent of the climate of hate you Rethuglicans embrace!"

--Vance; 6/15/17, 1:15 PM
tcrosse said...: Fun fact: the name Putin is rendered in French as Poutine, which is also the name of French Canada's contribution to world gastronomy.; 6/15/17, 1:15 PM
Quaestor said...: Au contraire...

What a hopeless case. I should have never expected Inga to realize the difference between complimenting a man's wit and intelligence and trusting him.; 6/15/17, 1:17 PM
Birkel said...: I don't think Machiavelli or Sun Tzu were friends of the United States. We should ignore them.

Do I have the measure of this argument, such as it were.; 6/15/17, 1:23 PM
Henry said...: Good material. I'm not sure about the delivery.; 6/15/17, 1:23 PM
khesanh0802 said...: A wonderful comment on the absolute madness going on in DC. I have only skimmed comments above, but I agree with those who feel the rest of the world is laughing up their sleeve at the current ridiculousness.

Maybe Trump should resign and let Pence take over. Does anyone seriously believe that he is going to be any less conservative than Trump? Pence is the guy who is staffing the Trump administration and he is not doing it with warmed-over liberals.

I, too, am suspicious of Mueller but he is what we have. As cynical as I have become, I still believe (hope) that there are persons in government who have some principles. I am convinced that, at some point, Comey's inappropriate behavior is going to bite him. Maybe I am a hopeless optimist, but it took a long time for the Mayor of Casterbridge's hubris to bite him on the ass.; 6/15/17, 1:24 PM
Fen said...: All we need is Ritmo to come back and gaslight us some more and the Clown Car set will be complete.

"Media hate speech radicalizing my brownshirts to shoot you dead is no biggie and not my responsibility" said the Little Eichmann as he spewed even more venom.

These people are no longer our countrymen. I hope everyone will not forget the way they behaved as a Republican congressman was fighting for his life.; 6/15/17, 1:25 PM
Quaestor said...: There's one thing that can be said for our Inga, she's uncomplicated.; 6/15/17, 1:25 PM
khesanh0802 said...: We don't have to like Putin or his policies to understand that he is very talented at controlling his environment and getting things done that he wants to get done. He knows how to exploit others weaknesses - certainly ours - and we go along for the ride.; 6/15/17, 1:28 PM
Anonymous said...: "Maybe Trump should resign and let Pence take over. Does anyone seriously believe that he is going to be any less conservative than Trump? Pence is the guy who is staffing the Trump administration and he is not doing it with warmed-over liberals"

You think it's Trump's "conservatism" that bothers people? Good lord. Trump is a Trumpist. He isn't a conservative, he isn't a liberal.; 6/15/17, 1:30 PM
Unknown said...: Since yesterday was Flag Day, I'd like to post the lyrics to Lee Greenwoods, "Proud to be an American."

Quote:
If tomorrow all my things were gone
I'd worked for all my life.
And I had had to start again,
With just my children and my wife.
And I'd think my lucky stars to be livin' here today,
Cause the flag still stand for freedom and they can't take that away

[Chorus]
And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the ones who died who gave that right to me
And I'll gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land, God Bless the USA.

From the lakes of Minnesota, to the hills of Tennessee,
Across the plains of Texas, from sea to shining sea.
From Detroit down to Houston and New York to LA,
Well there's pride in every American heart and it's time we stand and say

[Chorus]

/End Quote

Now then. What part of that song does today's left sing? Are they proud to be American? No. If their possessions were gone, would they try to start over or demand Government take care of them? Their spouse--i.e. their transgendered partner who aborted their child would demand that the other half transition to one of Facebook's 59 genders.

Does the left think the flag stands for freedom? No, it's a racist emblem of an aggressor nation that is the root cause of evil in the world. To the extent the flag does stand for freedom, the left is trying to erase it: the freedom to disagree with the left. The freedom to worship. The freedom to defend yourself. The freedom to speak. The freedom to actually have a fair trial and not get railroaded by the left's political correctness brigade.

Let's see: Are liberals proud to be American? Ask Michelle Obama, who was not proud until her Husband was president. Presumably she's not proud to be American. What about forgetting the men who died? The left loves spitting on veterans and murdering them through the Veterans Administration hospitals. Will they stand up, next to us and defend the USA? No, they run around betraying America and trying to sell her out to the UN and claiming America is the sole source of Evil in the world.

What about "God Bless the USA?" That's offensive, unconstitutional, if you say it you should be jailed, and besides, according to Obama it's "God Damn the USA!" If, of course God can find the time in between Democrats booing God loudly at their conventions. I suppose that I should clarify that this is the Christian God: Democrats are very friendly to Allah and want Allah to run America. Why else would they violently attack people protesting against Sharia law?

Republican ideals of a small town, with churches and self reliant, independent people who care for themselves and provide charitably for their neighbors is the Democrat version of hell, since what need is there for progressives running peoples lives and punishing them in a town like that?

Right Inga?

--Vance; 6/15/17, 1:31 PM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: The only admiration people have for Putin is the clear fact that unlike the left in Europe and America, Putin loves his country and wants his country and his people to succeed.

This rational thought, country first, and mode of action has been so diminished in OUR country by the traitorous Left that it comes as a huge surprise that other country's leaders, now Trump in our country and many of their fellow citizens also operate on the mode of Country first.

They so hate their own country and so hate the citizens, the deplorables who insist that American isn't the great evil Satan of the world, that they can't envision this rational self interest.

Self interest doesn't mean you are at war with or make enemies of other countries. You can be at odds with others, even be adversaries and still find common ground. This doesn't mean you are capitulating or doing treasonous actions.....you are dealing and negotiating.

If you operate from the premise that each of you (Putin, Trump, Netanyahu and any other leader of a Country) is also operating with their country first, as they SHOULD BE DOING, then you are able to come to agreements that possibly benefit everyone in some way. This is Trump's modus operandi. Make a deal. Get the best deal you can. Win, but no need to burn everything to the ground.

This is what used to be called diplomatic relations. Before the liberals with their "hate America first" attitude came to be ensconced in our government it was the way that rational adults dealt with others in the world.

Most of the time, it works.; 6/15/17, 1:32 PM
Fen said...: "Maybe Trump should resign - "

No. We are bonded with him now even if we detest him. Because if we allow the Left to thwart the results of this election, we only reward them and encourage them to do it again again and again.

Repeal Obamacare? BOOM shots fired. Oh I'm sorry what were we thinking. Here's $3 trillion to prop it up.

Enforce border security? BOOM! Shots fired. What were we thinking, let's pass permanent amnesty and please don't shoot us again.

Vote reform? No, don't shoot. You guys can vote as many times as you want. In fact, why even have elections.

This is like paying the Danegeld. If we let them do this to Trump, they will do it to Pence and every other candidate in the future.

If we don't stand and fight then we don't deserve to.be free.

It's Trump or die now, sorry but no choice.; 6/15/17, 1:36 PM
Fen said...: Kill the Marxists.; 6/15/17, 1:44 PM
Unknown said...: "For Sessions, practice makes perjury" Geddit, Trumpski's?; 6/15/17, 1:45 PM
OregonGuy said...: Owen--

попкорн

.; 6/15/17, 1:46 PM
Unknown said...: Fen, I think I should take a moment to say you may be maligning Inga a tad unfairly. While she is a leftist, I think it is actually Ritmo who is fully on record as enjoying watching leftists beat people to a bloody pulp. Inga hasn't, as far as I know, openly called for violence (at least not yet).

So perhaps tone it down on the direct personal attacks against her, and the name calling? At least until she openly calls for Republicans to be murdered like Ritmo has.

--Vance; 6/15/17, 1:47 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Inga - the media lie in your direction, of course you think that is fine and dandy.; 6/15/17, 1:50 PM
Fen said...: "At some point Comey's behavior is going to bite him"

Jamie Gorelick, Lois Lerner, Loretta Lynch, Hillary Clinton; 6/15/17, 1:52 PM
Michael K said...: At least until she openly calls for Republicans to be murdered like Ritmo has.

I agree. She is obsessed with the Russian thing but has not been advocating violence like Ritmo.; 6/15/17, 1:53 PM
Quaestor said...: Reason Hillary was defeated No. 999: Trump is a Trumpist.; 6/15/17, 1:54 PM
khesanh0802 said...: @Inga I was trying to point out that if the Dems did, in fact run Trump out of town they will be faced with the same or more conservative attitudes that they are so busy resisting today. So far Pence looks like Mr. Clean so how will the Dems deal with Mr. Clean? Certainly there are no obvious character issues as there are with Trump. I guess I was saying that you should be careful about what you wish for.

I am not suggesting Trump resign, nor would I want him to. I would not like to see the Dems in a position where they think they have won. ( My point was that I think driving Trump out would be pyrrhic.)

I watch fairly closely what is actually happening in DC besides the MSM madness: administration staffing continues, judges are being nominated; the Senate is progressing on a health care bill: regulations are being rolled back; etc. Good things happen regardless of the headlines in the WaPo. Most Trump voters are happy with what's actually going on.; 6/15/17, 1:54 PM
Kevin said...: There are several pro Putin comments in this thread.

If by "Putin" you mean insightful commenter on recent events, then yes. I applaud him for seeing the Comey situation for what it is.

If by "Putin" you mean strongman leader of the Russian people, then no. Had any of you made the same remarks, you would have received the same praise for your insight.; 6/15/17, 1:55 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: I want an unbiased press. Instead, almost all of the press donate to democrats &/or have worked in democrat administrations.

NYT blaming Sarah Palin for the actions of Jared Loughner (without any evidence, and in fact there is NO evidence) is a great example of the mainstream pro-one-party press LYING, in order to score points for their team.
That is a dangerous press.

Now we have rage-filled leftists gunning down members of congress. As Scott Adams put it - leftists are so misinformed, they have become radicalized by the mainstream press.; 6/15/17, 1:55 PM
Fen said...: "So perhaps - "

Nah. Inga is a traitorous cunt who supports a coup against the duly elected President of the United States. You want to drink with her, fine. You're smart, you'll figure it out for yourself.; 6/15/17, 1:57 PM
khesanh0802 said...: @ Fen

Those names you mentioned were protected by their party being in power, or misbehavior by the aforementioned Comey. Comey does not have the protection afforded to Lynch and Hillary. Grassley will be exploring Lynch's role in his committee hearings. She is not off the hook yet. Hillary had the ultimate punishment of being defeated by Trump. Thank God.; 6/15/17, 1:59 PM
Kevin said...: "For Sessions, practice makes perjury"

Sessions didn't even change his testimony when he testified his first time. He didn't mention meeting the Russian Ambassador at the Mayflower when Franken asked him the first time.

Dems: He was there! The Russian Ambassador was there! He lies! Perjury!

And the second time he testified he still didn't remember meeting the Russian Ambassador at the Mayflower.

Why isn't it perjury the second time? Because the Dems never had any information that they talked. It was all conjecture - he "might" have spoken to the Ambassador, his statements "might" have been untrue, he "might" have perjured himself.

But in all that time, they have uncovered no such meeting.

There was never any perjury, just another debunked allegation which is kept alive in the minds of those who need it to continue.; 6/15/17, 2:02 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: so Inga - correct the record.

Did "hands up don't shoot" happen? - even Obama's head of the DOJ Eric Holder admitted it did not happen. Why - because the only person who said it did, was Michael Brown's convenience store robbery accomplice. "Hands up don't shoot" never happened. The Officer shot in self defense after Michael Brown tried to over-power the officer and grab his gun. Read the report.

All the witnesses corroborated the police officers testimony, including black witnesses.
A black jury saw the truth.

Rachel Maddow pushed the lie so hard - most of the NFL, and many idiots in Hollywood did the "hands up don't shoot" chant. Also, the lie inspired riots and property damage to innocents business owners in Ferguson.

That's what LYING brings, INGA.

Do you get that? or are you THAT drenched in your fraud of an ideology?; 6/15/17, 2:04 PM
Fen said...: "Pro Putin comments"

But not the way you are trying to spin it.

Putin is former KGB, the counterpart to FBI in what was the former Soviet Union. So his perception of events have value. For example, the spectacle of the head of FBI playing Game of Thrones gambits and CYA memos while the country is under attack by radical jihadists. What was Comey doing playing palace politics in the week before the Florida night club attack?; 6/15/17, 2:05 PM
Achilles said...: Blogger Michael K said...

"I agree. She is obsessed with the Russian thing but has not been advocating violence like Ritmo."

But she has justified it. Half her posts yesterday were about how awful we are and how we should expect and accept the violence the left has been committing.

Radical stalinists shoot you. Moderate stalinists want you shot.

I can go out right now and find any number of Ingas who are right now saying "this was awful but he is an NRA supporter so he had it coming."; 6/15/17, 2:06 PM
Fen said...: Police officers were assassinated because of the Hands Up Don't Shoot lie.; 6/15/17, 2:07 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Fen - good point.
Police officers across the nation are dead because of Rachel Maddow's big scoop LIE.; 6/15/17, 2:12 PM
Anonymous said...: "But she has justified it. Half her posts yesterday were about.... how we should expect and accept the violence the left has been committing."

Achilles, you like to present yourself as an arbiter of what is decent and good, yet you lie in your numerous comments that accuse me of approvating or justifying violence against Republicans and conservatives. Post my comments here in which I do as you say. Your and Fen's comments are sounding increasingly extreme.; 6/15/17, 2:14 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: "It was the video" - referring to the Obama-Clinton-Susan Rice BS lie that the alphabet channel media dutifully reported as a FACT.

LIE!; 6/15/17, 2:16 PM
Fen said...: "Comey does not have the protection -"

We'll see. While your analysis is valid, I predict Comey will suffer no consequences for his actions. Weak kneed Republicans will ignore whatever charges can be brought and let him off "in the name of bipartisan unity, let bygones be bygones". Hell, I'll even wager that his net worth will double.

Comey will walk, wait and see.; 6/15/17, 2:16 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/15/17, 2:19 PM
Fen said...: Riiiight. Inga, you still refuse to denounce the shooting, to admit that leftist hatemongering has gone to far, to offer any sympathy or support for the GOP congressman who were shot, not even for the two brave police officers who protected them.

And we are the ones who are extreme?

Watch. You could do all that right here, but you cant. So deep is your hatred for people who supported the object of your derangement syndrome. You probably think the police officers deserved to get shot for defending "nazis".

Go ahead, prove me wrong....'; 6/15/17, 2:27 PM
Achilles said...: "Achilles, you like to present yourself as an arbiter of what is decent and good, yet you lie in your numerous comments that accuse me of approvating or justifying violence against Republicans and conservatives. Post my comments here in which I do as you say. Your and Fen's comments are sounding increasingly extreme. "

All attacks. No denunciations. She only tries to maintain a veneer of civility. She would clearly approve of Fen and myself being shot.

And you are wrong, I know I am neither decent nor good. I hold myself out as neither. I am merely necessary. I am why you have the freedom to post your garbage and why my kids will have the freedom to post tomorrow.

And it is becoming clear we will only have that freedom if we stop you and your friends.; 6/15/17, 2:40 PM
Anonymous said...: Fen, this isn't the Inquisition. Who do you think you are, Torquemada?; 6/15/17, 2:41 PM
Anonymous said...: "I am why you have the freedom to post your garbage and why my kids will have the freedom to post tomorrow."

If you are referring to your military service, be aware that there are military members who are liberals, progresssive and Democrats. If you feel the need to call them Stalinists too, I wouldn't be surprised. Your extremism would not be tolerated in the military, it's good you're out.; 6/15/17, 2:45 PM
Achilles said...: Blogger Unknown said...
""For Sessions, practice makes perjury" Geddit, Trumpski's?"

Yes we do. You will not stop until you find a crime and usurp power.

Textbook Stalinism.

The only way we will avoid conflict is if you people realize you are a minority of the population and poorly armed in comparison. It is clear there is no decency to appeal to. There will be no quarter.; 6/15/17, 2:46 PM
Achilles said...: Blogger Inga said...

"If you are referring to your military service, be aware that there are military members who are liberals, progresssive and Democrats. If you feel the need to call them Stalinists too, I wouldn't be surprised. Your extremism would not be tolerated in the military, it's good you're out."

You don't know a single fucking thing about the military or veterans. If you did you would be afraid. You would also know democrats poll in single digits amongst the military community. Hillary is singularly despised.

The SEAL community has particular feelings about the obama administrative. The JSOC community in general does.

I really wish you people would take a different course.; 6/15/17, 2:53 PM
SukieTawdry said...: Fen said..."Maybe Trump should resign - "

No. We are bonded with him now even if we detest him. Because if we allow the Left to thwart the results of this election, we only reward them and encourage them to do it again again and again.

I've never detested Trump, but I don't think I've bonded with him either. I am, however, bonded to the rule of law and the Constitution and the requirement that we accept election results regardless of adamantly we may have opposed the winner.

There is noise that some Congressional Republicans would welcome deposing Trump by whatever means available and work behind the scenes towards that goal. We know how the Democrats feel. So, yeah, if it becomes necessary, I guess I will "stand and fight." "Trump or die now" is not the hill I would have chosen, but it seems we're getting to the point that there may be no other choice.; 6/15/17, 2:56 PM
Fen said...: Inga: "This isn't the inquisition "

It was when you were hectoring everyone to denounce the "body slam" before all the facts where in.

You've been asked a dozen times now to apply your own standard to the shooting of GOP congressmen. You refuse to even express sympathy.

So it's fair to assume that you support the shooting.

Noted.; 6/15/17, 3:01 PM
Fen said...: Thanks Sukie. I fear too many of us are "going wobbly" as Thatcher once said. So it's refreshing to hear that you understand what is at stake. As you put it, the Rule of Law.; 6/15/17, 3:06 PM
Unknown said...: I'll just point out that Inga has the exact same opportunity Brookzene had yesterday: Make an open, explicit denunciation of left-inspired political violence directed against Republicans, Conservatives, and so forth.

You can openly condemn it. Not weaselly "I don't condone violence" but actual, "I wholly and completely reject all attempts by the left to use violence to enforce their politics or punish people for not being leftists. People in America have the right to not be leftist, and not be in danger or fear for their life because they disagree with me and my side's politics. I call on members of the media and also Democrat social and political figures to vigorously condemn any and all attempts to use violence against Republicans or to promote liberal views."

That's a statement, Inga. Brookzene refused to make such a statement yesterday. Nobody bothered to ask Ritmo; we all know he endorses leftist violence.

So how about it, Inga? Get yourself some credibility and openly denounce the violence coming from your side.

Can you do it?

--Vance; 6/15/17, 3:06 PM
Fen said...: Inga you don't know anything about the military. Your daughter serves, not you. Stop appropriating her service as your own.

Love your racist assumption that minorities voted for Hillary though. Keep showing us those true colors.; 6/15/17, 3:09 PM
Dude1394 said...: "
Blogger Fen said...
"Maybe Trump should resign - "
If we don't stand and fight then we don't deserve to.be free.

It's Trump or die now, sorry but no choice."

Well said. I love trump by the way, I've been wanting a non-politician for a while.

And I will never trust the never-trumpers again. Very dead to me. They were trying to subject me to Hillary, screw them.; 6/15/17, 3:17 PM
Seeing Red said...: Putin/Russia destabilized our democracy?

Putin? Russia?

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa make it stop I'm laughing so hard I have tears!

Stalinist striking a little too close to home?

Meh, Hitler was to the right of Stalin. It's history. The Left vile Progs decreed it and it was so. Not our terms. We didn't ID it.

History is a bugger.; 6/15/17, 3:23 PM
Achilles said...: "Bullshit. You don't know any minorities in the military? You don't know who they voted for do you? Hint, it wasn't Trump. I know far more about the military and veterans than you may imagine in your disordered reality."

Ah yes. All minority's vote for democrats. Inga is a racist as well as completely ignorant of the armed forces. My Wife is a naturalized citizen from Hong Kong. But since she is Asian she doesn't count I suppose.

And the army is the least racist place I have ever been. It is truly Martin Luther kings dream. And when the president of the United States is fucking with your ROEs, trying to get you killed, and trashing your mission it doesn't matter what race you are.

You are full of ignorant and unconscious hatred. It is clear why you don't comdemn leftist violence.; 6/15/17, 3:28 PM
Fen said...: "You don't get to demand anything of me"

But we do. Only because you demanded we denounce the fake "body slam" of a reporter a few threads back.

You need to get accustomed to the reality that the days of double standards are over. You will be forced to live by the same rules you inflict on others.

Now, please explain why you support the shooting of GOP congressmen?; 6/15/17, 3:30 PM
Kevin said...: Fen: You believe X

Inga: I never said I believed X

Fen: Then denounce X

Inga: Why should I denounce X?

Fen: Right, because you believe X.; 6/15/17, 3:30 PM
Unknown said...: Certainly, Inga: I openly condemn all right inspired violence against Democrats that wasn't in self defense.

You want to find any? Most all violence is by Democrats, Progressives, and people who are registered Democrat. Or they did crimes but were not inspired by politics.

Even Dylan Roof, the shooter who attacked the church, was a registered Democrat. But you and yours certainly blamed every Republican, didn't you?

This whole thing with James Hotchskinson is just the right using your rules, Inga, and applying them to you and your side. Every Republican was asked to denounce James Loughner. To Denounce Dylan Roof. To denounce the Pulse Nightclub shooter. Even though every single one of them were Democrats. Your side blamed all Republicans. Remember Krugman's "Climate of hate?"

Well, guess what: your turn, sweetie. You get to be held responsible for this maniac's attacks, because he is literally no different than any bog-standard progressive. He has the exact same views you do. You, by your own standards, get to answer for him. He's yours, and you must own him. After all, you had no problems at all blaming all Republicans and conservatives for crimes committed by Democrats. Now you get to take the blame for crimes definitively committed by Democrats, and excused by Democrats, and for which your side is reveling in. Read Markos who called for Scalise to die--not a single Democrat has said that was wrong.

When we look around, who is the violent ones? It's the left. Fully, 100% the left. "But what about Trump's words!" Guess what: those are words. Where's the actual violence? Completely on your side. Multiple, repeated acts, egged on by Hillary's campaign officials. It's not the Republicans who are poisoning people, or hitting them over the heads with bike locks, or setting women's hair on fire, or attacking campaign rallies, or shooting cops--it's your side. Over and over and over and over again, it's your side. Yes, you are responsible. Yes, you have personal responsibility, because you cannot bring yourself to denounce any of it. Ritmo says he loves watching people get brutally beaten because they aren't leftists, and you high five him and tell him what a great person he is. You fully, personally, and totally defend violence by the left, and cannot denounce it.

You and yours played this game too long, Inga. "All Republicans are violent because of Person XXXXX! They must take full responsibility!"

Your turn, Inga. That shoe gets shoved on your foot, good and hard. Wear it with pride, Ms. leftist apologist for leftist violence who cannot bring herself to say that shooting Republicans is wrong. How hard is it to even say that? But you refuse to even say that shooting Republicans is wrong. Really? Really? Do you not see how demonic and evil that is? It shouldn't be a hard request to say that people shouldn't shoot Republican congressmen.... but you can't even bring yourself to do that. You are offended to even be asked to condemn it.

That's why you need to condemn it, isn't it? Because you openly are troubled by being asked to condemn shooting and killing Republicans. The fact you cannot condemn it without hesitation is appalling. Only Sunsong has had the decency to be appalled by Democrats shooting Republicans. You cannot nor will you even try to say it's wrong. You fully support it, in other words.

Else you wouldn't have any problem condemning it. But you do have a problem.

--Vance; 6/15/17, 3:31 PM
Fen said...: Achilles: "and the army is the least racist place"

I know, wasn't it great? The color of your skin was no more relevant than the color of your hair. I miss it.

And another thing was the culture - if you saw someone doing something wrong and you didn't step up, you were just as guilty.as they were. Staring down at your shoelaces, looking the other way, was not excusable.; 6/15/17, 3:36 PM
rcocean said...: Inga, why don't have your own blog? All these guys love you girl.

Not only do they constantly discuss what you say, if you're not around the Althouse hillbillies start doing "Shout-outs". "Hey, if Inga was here..."

Evidently, there a lot of lonely Conservatives guys on the internet who want to argue with a liberal women.

Maybe you could make some $$$ out of this.; 6/15/17, 3:37 PM
Fen said...: Nah, we're just holding her to her own standards to show what a fraud she is. Before she starts another round of "denounce x!"

Think of it as having the exterminator drop by. You've got to vacate for the day, but no cockroaches for 6 months.; 6/15/17, 3:48 PM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: Sorry rcocean, I can't help it if they are obsessed with me.

I think it is more like fascinated in a watching a snake eat a frog kind of way.; 6/15/17, 3:52 PM
Unknown said...: So Inga: you disagree with the Young Turks, prominent leftists, who just today said that Representative Steve Scalise was shot because he deserved it?

You willing to actually condemn people on your side for saying that the Republicans deserved to die? Do you actually, truly, mean that you condemn shooting Republican representatives in Congress? Because I've seen lots of leftists arguing that the Republicans were attacking people so by shooting them it was "self defense" of the "poor".

Do you agree? Or will you explicitly condemn this shooting as well as all your friends on the left who are justifying it and using it as a tool to call for more gun control?

--Vance; 6/15/17, 3:55 PM
Browndog said...: I love it when Althouse comment threads center around Inga. It's such a refreshing change.; 6/15/17, 3:56 PM
Unknown said...: BREAKING NEWS: "Pence hires outside counsel to deal with Russia probe inquiries".

Uhmm. Wonder why. Way to go Trumpski's.; 6/15/17, 4:18 PM
Birkel said...: Defending yourselves from lawfare proves you are guilty...

Said every Stalinist, ever.; 6/15/17, 4:23 PM
Unknown said...: That's ok, Inga. I didn't expect you to come right out and say that shooting Republicans was bad. I certainly didn't expect you to actually say that murdering Republicans and Conservatives is a bad thing.

Good thing you wont' say that, because let's be honest: who would believe you? So thanks for not putting out a lie. We know you don't have any problem with this shooting, so I guess it's good you cannot bring yourself to condemn it.

Again, only Sunsong has condemned this shooting, and it was her first post on the subject. The rest of the Althouse liberal commentariat haven't, and cannot bring themselves to say the words "I condemn this attack and any and all shootings of Republicans by Democrats. It is wrong to kill my political opponents."

We all can draw conclusions from you leftists who cannot say those simple words. Especially since you guys repeatedly refuse to do so. Sunsong got it right. Why can't the rest of you--if, that is, you truly think that killing Republicans is wrong.

So go ahead and revel in your refusal to denounce violence by your side Inga. I won't press you to go over your "one denunciation per day" rule. But please, when others say you support political violence, don't try to claim innocence. You've shown your true colors. And they run red. Blood red.

--Vance; 6/15/17, 4:28 PM
Unknown said...: Inga, I'm not the one who is refusing to say "Killing my political opponents is wrong." Here, I'll do it for myself: Despite my differences with leftists, I do not think that murdering them in cold blood is in any way, shape, or form acceptable. I denounce any Republican and those who agree with them when and if they go hunting Democrats to murder them.

I can't be any more clear.

You, on the other hand? What are we to conclude from your refusal to condemn this shooter, or even the concept of murdering Republicans? This shouldn't be hard, Inga. Or Ritmo, or Brookzene, or Trumpit. Sunsong, who is also a liberal, was appalled by this shooting and murder attempt. I am dead certain that Althouse, also a Democrat, does not condone killing Republicans.

Yet you refuse to say those words, only saying it's "Nuttery" to ask you to do so. Yet this guy was you. His political views are exactly the same as yours, as best as we can tell. He obviously thought killing Republicans was a good thing. Therefore, since you and him are political twins, it is indeed logical to ask if you share that same view.

The fact you openly refuse to condemn shooting Republicans says a lot, doesn't it? Are you also a member of "Terminate the Republican Party?" Inga?

--Vance; 6/15/17, 4:36 PM
Bad Lieutenant said...: Inga...

you almost sounded sincere there for a minute.

Oh who am I kidding. Why not be honest, this is an anonymous blog. Tell us the truth. You love it. It doesn't matter what you say, because all hell is never going to break loose, and there will be no consequences, let alone comeuppance.

So why worry, Inga? This will never happen to you or yours. How could it? Go on, tell us how you really feel. Show us what you're made of.; 6/15/17, 4:40 PM
Birkel said...: I hope some uppance comes.; 6/15/17, 5:00 PM
Unknown said...: Funny how the Trumpski's always pile into Inga. What a bunch of lemmings.; 6/15/17, 5:22 PM
JackWayne said...: The Althouse blog has become a microcosm of the cold civil war. The irony of course is that Althouse has been one of the liberals urging us onward to this path. Now that the light at the end of the tunnel looks more like a raging fire, we see that liberals are drawing back from the inevitable. Just like the first Civil War, there is no thought of having a Constitutional Convention to see if there is a peaceful path. We appear to be locked into a path to war. End games are fun, yes?; 6/15/17, 5:34 PM
Fen said...: "What was the topic again"

How conservatives lost the culture war. Too much drama for them to handle. They would prefer to take it up the ass over and over again than make a fuss.; 6/15/17, 5:57 PM
Unknown said...: Dang. Guess I'd better go on the topic of the thread again.

Putin is definitely trolling the left here.

--Vance; 6/15/17, 6:21 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: NYT - "Some conservatives are angry that we keep lying about Sarah Palin."

"No link was established with the Loughner shootings, but we still think Palin is to blame, FU.

-- yours, the hack NYT; 6/15/17, 6:23 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Well then again, this is a guy who kills anyone who does anything he doesn't like - but I guess that wasn't the sort of thing you or your crowd here thought would be worth mentioning.; 6/15/17, 6:31 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: How conservatives lost the culture war.

They lost before it began, on account of the fact that they have no culture. This is a fact that you demonstrate with gusto every time you post a comment.; 6/15/17, 6:32 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: 6/15/17, 6:49 PM
Jaq said...: When you say Dylan,
He thinks you're talking about
Dylan Thomas.
The man ain't got no culture!; 6/15/17, 7:14 PM
Birkel said...: (You) lost before (the culture war) began, (because you) have no culture (that I respect).

Clarity is appreciated.; 6/15/17, 7:14 PM
Jaq said...: Right. The left does minstrel shows mocking flyover people, like the Daily Show, because they are not allowed to mock blacks anymore, but they still need the feeling of superiority it gives them. It's what bigots live for, that frisson of superiority it gives them to imagine that they are somehow above us. Our bourgeois revolutionary comes back for it every night. His self worth seems to need it,like every bigot since the dawn of time.; 6/15/17, 7:27 PM
Michael said...: Ah, progressives and "culture." Laughing at the splendid Shakespeare in the park rendition where Trump is murdered by the Senate. But the culture stops there because not ten people in that audience, giving their standing ovation (and what half ass play or symphony does not get a standing ovation from the oafs?) has the slightest idea of what came next or would stand to applaud it if they knew. Proscription would be a new word for them to chew.; 6/15/17, 8:42 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Gee Michael. Could you try to write something just a little bit bitchier? Thanks!; 6/15/17, 8:49 PM
Tommy Duncan said...: "What was the topic again"

A fragment didn't make the memory hole. 61 instances of "Inga" remain. Where is Winston Smith when we need him?; 6/15/17, 9:13 PM
Tommy Duncan said...: Cruel meta-neutrality?; 6/15/17, 9:15 PM
Achilles said...: Blogger The Toothless Revolutionary said...
"Well then again, this is a guy who kills anyone who does anything he doesn't like - but I guess that wasn't the sort of thing you or your crowd here thought would be worth mentioning."

"The 80's called and they want their foreign policy back."

-some asshole.

Ha ha ha.

Not long ago you were chortling over that clever joke. Now that Russian collusion is central to your Stalinist strategy you have conveniently flushed that down the same toilet you flushed your intellectual honesty.; 6/15/17, 10:23 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Let me know when you've managed to get a life.; 6/15/17, 11:18 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: It's almost as funny to hear a guy living in a trailer yammer on about "Stalinism" as it is to hear a homeless man rail about how much he hates soup kitchens.

It's almost as funny to hear an uneducated fool talk about "intellectual" anything as it is to hear a homeless bum complain about how inadequate he finds the resources of the local library he loiters in every day.; 6/15/17, 11:39 PM
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...: Blogger Unknown said...
Funny how the Trumpski's always pile into Inga. What a bunch of lemmings.

She's a very easy target. A font of stupidity. You're closing in on her in the race for Biggest Leftist Bozo at Althouse. That's quite an achievement.; 6/16/17, 8:45 AM
Big Mike said...: Let me know when you've managed to get a life.

That's what you write to conservatives.

Let me know when you've managed to take a life.

That's what you write to your fellow lefties.; 6/16/17, 1:29 PM