April 16, 2017

At the Green Light Café...

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... go ahead and talk about whatever you like.

71 comments:

FullMoon said...

Iowahawk back on twitter.
Inga back on Althouse.
Trump in Whitehouse.
Life is good.

Darrell said...

Inga said she is Unknown99, not Classic Inga. But then again she talks out of both sides of her mouth, denying what Classic Inga said in the past, as if it were her. Who knows with liars and idiots?

Fernandinande said...

We have all said problematic claims, the origins of which were ingrained in us by our discriminatory and biased society.

CWJ said...

Gatsby!!!

Fernandinande said...

Shutting down rhetoric that undermines the existence and rights of others is not a violation of free speech; it is hate speech.

Saint Croix said...

I saw an interesting thing on the internet, I forget where, a neat trick you can play with Wikipedia.

Pick something, anything, and go to its Wikipedia page.

Click on the first link. It will take you to another Wikipedia page. Click on the first link in that article. Continue clicking on the first links, pretty soon you will end up at Philosophy.

My first test run was The Beatles

Beatles - Rock Music - Popular Music - Music Industry - Musical Composition - Music - Art - Human Behavior - Motion - Physics - Natural Science - Science - Knowledge - Awareness - Consciousness - Quality - Philosophy

Then I tried Volvo

Volvo - Gothenberg - Nordic Countries - Region - Geography - Science - Knowledge - Awareness - Consciousness - Quality - Philosophy

Next I tried Adam Sandler

Adam Sandler - Saturday Night Live - Live Television - Video Production - Video - Electronic - Science - Knowledge - Awareness - Conscious - Quality - Philosophy

Next I tried Dracula

Dracula - Gothic Fiction - Horror - Genre - Category - Ontology - Philosophy

And then I went with Alpha Centauri

Alpha Centauri - Lists of Nearest Stars and Brown Dwarfs - Brown Dwarf - Substellar Object - Astronomical Object - Entity - Existence - Ontology - Philosophy

Next I tried the great dolphin, Flipper

Flipper - Ivan Tors - Hungary - Unitary State - State - Polity - Entity - Existence - Ontology - Philosophy

What about Easter?

Easter - Holiday - Norm - Sociological - Social Behavior - Behavior - Organism - Biology - Natural Science - Science - Knowledge - Awareness - Quality - Philosophy

Next I tried Don't Panic

Don't Panic - Phrases From The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Comic Science Fiction - Subgenre - Hierarchy - Path - Graph Theory - Mathematics - Quantity - Property - Philosophy

Abortion

Abortion - Pregnancy - Offspring - Organism - Life - Physical Body - Physics - Natural Science - Science - Knowledge - Awareness - Quality - Philosophy

Three Stooges

Three Stooges - Vaudeville - Theatre - Fine Art - Aesthetics - Philosophy

Apparently at Wikipedia, all roads lead to Philosophy!

Fernandinande said...

While it is expected that these lessons will be difficult and often personal, holding difficult conversations for the sake of educating is very different from shaming on the basis of ignorance.

Michael K said...

We're off to our brunch in a few minutes. The lefties sure do seem to get a lot out of jousting with their betters. I don't assume I'm smarter but, with the one exception of health care, Inga doesn't do much more than cut and paste or make silly comments. Ritmo seems to be having issues with anger and resentment. Trumpit seems disturbed.

They could all find others to agree with at sites like DailyKos or Washington Monthly which ban any dissenting view.

I guess it gives some sort of pleasure to snarl at the opposition. Maybe that is why the left goes to Trump demonstrations and throws eggs or firecrackers.

I do worry a bit that they are stirring up forces they don't understand and that I want left asleep.

Somebody said Weimar Germany and that is an uncomfortable thought.

Happy Easter, anyway. Christ is Risen.

Michael K said...

"holding difficult conversations for the sake of educating"

I tried that at Washington Monthly and was banned.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Where are the mega-Ingas that the resistance so desperately needs in this hour of peril? Barack' s on an endless tropical vacation, Hilary is casting about for some way to pocket a few more bucks, and Warren is making her husband lunch. Damn.

Fernandinande said...

This being said, if people are given the resources to learn and either continue to speak hate speech or refuse to adapt their beliefs, then hostility may be warranted.

Fernandinande said...

The emotional labor required to educate people is immense and is additional weight that is put on those who are already forced to defend their human rights.

Fernandinande said...

By thewellesleynews OpinionsApril 12, 2017
Free speech is not violated at Wellesley

Fernandinande said...

20 degrees of Kevin Bacon:

Kevin Bacon
Footloose
Musical film
Film genre
Narrative
Non-fiction
Content
Information
Question
Referring expression
Linguistics
Science
Knowledge
Awareness
Quality
Philosophy

Chuck said...

KT McFarland on Fox News Sunday confirms changes coming this week within the Trump national security team:

http://theweek.com/speedreads/692550/north-korea-something-president-trump-going-deal-first-year-says-security-adviser

So she's out; seemingly headed to the Singapore Ambassadorship. The press has been running that story for days and they are apparently right.

I get the impression that there are more changes on the way. Like, "on the way, this week."

Etienne said...

I used my big toe nail side cutters to snip off a skin tag on the back of my leg before my shower. I couldn't see it, so I had to cut it blind. It's been bugging me every time I sit down like a sting.

My wife went to church early to help set up, but I figured how hard can it be.

Well I snipped that little sucker on the first try, and kind of stabbed it with some toilet paper to see if it was bleeding. Yep, the toilet paper was soaked in blood.

I look at my leg and there's blood coming down everywhere and all over the tile, so I hop in the shower until it stops bleeding. But it's still bleeding after my shower is done.

Crap! Now I break out the first aid kit. Crap, all the big gauze is gone.

So I'm feeling around blind trying to put the biggest band-aid I have over a little gauze. Then I spent 30 minutes cleaning up all the blood off the shower and tile before the wife comes home and beats the crap out of me.

I think those things must develop a little feeder vein.

After I was all done with that disaster, I noticed a package of panty liners in the other sink drawer. Crap, I could have just slapped a Stayfree Maxi-Pad on the wound!

I guess it wouldn't have looked good to have a Maxi-Pad come falling out of my pants in church though...

CWJ said...

Saint croix and fernandinande,

Cool!!!

tcrosse said...

This being said, if people are given the resources to learn and either continue to speak hate speech or refuse to adapt their beliefs, then hostility may be warranted.

A rationalization for "Reeducation" Camps. All with the best of intentions, of course.

Anonymous said...

Saint Croix: Apparently at Wikipedia, all roads lead to Philosophy!

I picked, out of the blue, "Sudd". It led to an infinite regress on "Arabic".

"Demilune", however, got me to "philosophy" fairly quickly.

Dave said...

Interesting piece on the American Thinker blog about Trump's "wiretapping" allegation and what may constitute evidence of corruption in the Obama administration.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/04/in_her_majestys_disservice.html

madAsHell said...

Crap, I could have just slapped a Stayfree Maxi-Pad on the wound!

Two words.....Styptic pencil.

madAsHell said...

Green Light Cafe

It makes me think that I shouldn't have had that last beer.

Etienne said...

madAsHell said...Two words.....Styptic pencil.

I'll add that to my list, as I have to buy some better first aid kits.

When I worked for Northrop, we had really nice kits, and also a defibrillator.

We would joke about using the defibrillator whenever the secretary came to work in her push-up cleavage revealing bra.

I told her once about the joke, and she didn't even blush. She said she heard the joke 20 times already. Men!

Paco Wové said...

"Inga said she is Unknown99, not Classic Inga. But then again she talks out of both sides of her mouth, denying what Classic Inga said in the past, as if it were her."

Current Inga has multiple user accounts, none of which match Classic Inga's. Current Inga has also gone under a number of different usernames as well, all starting back in early 2016 (I think). So that all argues against the two being the same.

There are certain similarities of tone. But how many different ways can bitchy stupid women sound?

Paco Wové said...

"Clinton wins in a landslide of historical proportions."

Just savoring a classic New Inga-ism there.

madAsHell said...

When I worked for Northrop

B2 bomber in Pico Rivera?

Humperdink said...

Funny story Etienne. Sometimes the smallest issue (or soft tissue) has a way of blowing up on you.

Matt Sablan said...

Usually with the Wikipedia game, I see people trying to get to Disney.

FullMoon said...

Bob said... [hush]​[hide comment]

Maybe we could talk about why the green light cafe has a picture with blue lights


Speaking of lights, one of the peripheral young relatives in Northern California has a pretty decent little grow operation. Extra income, has a full time job. Anyway, had solar installed to cut electricity costs. Somehow, because of less solar generation than required by company, he was hit with a six thousand dollar utility bill.

Unknown said...

I'm posting to find out how I might mail a photo book I recent published to Ms. Althouse. I'd love for her to write about it but I'm also a regular reader of the blog and would just be happy to have it in her hands. It's called UNEASY: Portraits 1986-2016, and as the title heavy implies it's a 30-year retrospective of my portraits of the great and famous...including a sitting of Donald Trump from 2006 that has been written up by Time.com and The Guardian. Thanks, Chris Buck

n.n said...

Saint Croix:

Philosophy is the central axis of the logical domains. Whether it is science, fantasy, or faith, all logical domains are constructed from and intersect with the philosophical domain, where speculation about life, the universe, and everything begins, ends, and recycles. Then there is the twilight fringe, that is neither logical nor probable yet viable, which is selective and opportunistic. That's where abortion rites, science, fantasy, and faith are reconciled or created.

Roughcoat said...

I'm reaching for my pistol.

Etienne said...
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Saint Croix said...
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Saint Croix said...

I picked, out of the blue, "Sudd". It led to an infinite regress on "Arabic".

Weird!

I got

Sudd - Swamp - Wetland - Aquifer - Water - Chemical Substance - Matter - Classic Physics - Physics - Natural Science - Science - Knowledge - Awareness - Consciousness - Quality - Philosophy

Michael K said...

Blogger Roughcoat said...
I'm reaching for my pistol.


Only one? Boy, you got to load up !

I know. You only need one but, when you need a pistol, you need it badly.

Hagar said...

How come the Evening News had none of the Dayly Mail's shots of the Obamas in Tahiti?

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Paco Wové said...
Current Inga has multiple user accounts, none of which match Classic Inga's. Current Inga has also gone under a number of different usernames as well, all starting back in early 2016 (I think). So that all argues against the two being the same.


No poster generates more comments of a personal nature than Inga.

Hmmm.

Paco and Inga sitting in a tree
...

Grant said...

The Wellesley editorial that Fernandinande linked to is quite badly written. They should focus on writing before they try to make any statements about speech.

Mike Sylwester said...

Numbers of FISA requests:

Jan - June 2015 = between 0 and 499

July - Dec 2015 = between 0 and 499

Jan - June 2016 = between 1,000 and 1,499

July - December 2016 = Numbers not yet available to the public

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/about/corporate-responsibility/fisa/

Mike Sylwester said...

On my Facebook page I posted an annotated photo album I made about the sarin bomb that was exploded in Syria on April 4.

The bomb was not dropped from a Syrian Air Force airplane, and the Syrian Government had nothing to do with the bomb.

The bomb was hand-placed into the middle of a street and then was covered with a couple sticks of dynamite that were blown up.

https://www.facebook.com/mike.sylwester/media_set?set=a.10212675826761273.1073741826.1554023238&type=3&pnref=story

Ann Althouse said...

@Chris Buck

Thanks. Email me at annalthouse@gmail.com for mailing info.

Mike Sylwester said...

Tablet magazine published an article on April 10 about how Paul Manafort smuggled large amounts of money out of Ukraine. The article is based on an interview with Ukrainian Parliament member Serhiy Leshchenko. He explained:

[quote]

Now what I have is documentary confirmation of that accounting compiled in the shadow-accounts department of the Party of Regions [former President Yanukovych's pro-Russian party]. The evidence of the payments shows that, as we always surmised, Manafort received money to an account in America, but he did not receive it directly from the Party of Regions.

We now know that he received the money from an offshore company in Belize, which was tied to accounts in Kyrgyzstan. With this account in Kyrgyzstan, money was transferred to his main account in America, in US dollars, through a correspondent account in Commerce Bank. ....

I know simply that first and foremost, he received funding from Yanukovych. It was dirty money, which was laundered by corrupt officials from our budget; this money was paid through illegal money-laundering schemes and fraud by electronic transfers through Khyrgiztan.

[end quote]

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/229471/ukrainian-mp-manafort-secrets

Chris N said...

Reminds me of Taxi Driver. Good composition.

Mike Sylwester said...

Mike Sylwester at 8:26 PM

... he [Manafort] received funding from Yanukovych. It was dirty money, which was laundered by corrupt officials from our budget; this money was paid through illegal money-laundering schemes and fraud by electronic transfers through Khyrgiztan.

Emphasis added.

What Manafort was doing in Ukraine was laundering money for top Ukrainian officials who thought they might be overthrown.

Manafort was working primarily for President Viktor Yanukovych, who had been elected legitimately because practically all the ethnic Russians in Ukraine voted for him. The election was certified as valid by international election-watching organizations.

Despite Yanukovych's legitimate election, Ukrainian protesters in Kiev overthrew his government by means of months-long disruptions of public order. The protesters were encouraged and helped by the Obama Administration.

Figuring that the Ukrainian protesters eventually might overthrow the Government, Yanukovych and his political party -- the Party of the Regions -- hired Manafort to smuggle large amounts of embezzled money abroad. That was Manafort's essential work in Ukraine.

Manafort was working against Russian interests. Russia wanted Yanukovych and his party to stay in power in Ukraine, but Manafort was enabling Yanukovych and his associates to flee and re-settle comfortably in the West.

I speculate that Manafort also negotiated with the US Government to provide US asylum to Yanukovych's people in exchange for abdicating peacefully.

This is why US Intelligence was studying Manafort. In 2015, Manafort ended his activities in Ukraine and soon began working for the Trump campaign.

US Intelligence received some information about Manafort's Ukrainian activities from the United Kingdom, Poland and Estonia. However, those three countries stopped sharing such information in the summer of 2016.

This was the same time when Trump fired Manafort as his campaign manager, after Trump received a US intelligence briefing about Manafort.

Bay Area Guy said...

I took my family to see the Nats v Phillies today in the hot afternoon DC sun. Harper hit two homers. Beautiful stadium - they really have spruced up SouthEast DC, lotta new apartments & commercial developments.

Baseball is such an odd game. Like many, I grew up playing catch in the street with my Dad, so it got embedded into my DNA at an early age - along with his childhood stories of the glorious Brooklyn Dodgers of 1955. But it is hard to watch 3 hours of mostly inaction.

I took my Dad to a SF Giants game about 15 years ago, and we ran into Willie Mays - while my Dad was wearing his ubiquitous, beat-up Brooklyn Dodger hat. Willie saw the hat, did a double-take, and said, "I bet you wouldn't wear that at the Polo Grounds". My Dad was speechless, couldn't talk, just grinning ear to ear. Swear to God, that's a true story. My one brush with the great Willie Mays.

Mike Sylwester said...

Mike Sylwester at 8:26 PM

We now know that he received the money from an offshore company in Belize, which was tied to accounts in Kyrgyzstan. With this account in Kyrgyzstan, money was transferred to his main account in America, in US dollars, through a correspondent account in Commerce Bank. ....

I know simply that first and foremost, he received funding from Yanukovych. It was dirty money, which was laundered by corrupt officials from our budget; this money was paid through illegal money-laundering schemes and fraud by electronic transfers through Kyrgyzstan.


Carter Page -- who was the subject of a FISA request in July 2016 -- was employed around that time in justifying Central Asian governments (e.g. Kyrgyzstan) to Western governments.

Also around the same time, Page was advising the Trump campaign. However, I speculate that US Intelligence was studying Page not because of Trump, but rather because Page might have been involved in helping Paul Manafort smuggle embezzled Ukrainian money through Kyrgyzstan to the West.

[quote]

... Carter Page, spoke Thursday [July 9, 2015] in Moscow, and the main theme of the talk was that Russia and China have more successfully pursued their interests in Central Asia ....

... "nakedly emotional approaches to news, often involving expressions of opinion and lacking verification of factual assertion" typified "mainstream western discourse" on Central Asia.

This has led to an “often-hypocritical focus on democratization, inequality, corruption and regime change" in Central Asia, he argued. ....

By contrast, "China and Russia have focused on concepts of mutual respect, equality and mutual benefit; they've also focused on tolerance and and an emphasis on access to resources and increased capital investment," Page said. ....

Page did not mention Trump during the talk and issued a caveat that his ideas did not represent "other people or organizations I might be working with at the present time." ...

[end quote]

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/79586

Fernandinande said...
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D. said...

"Mike Sylwester at 8:26 PM"

Fabulous research. If you have the time could look into Lois Lerner and the IRS/Tea Party stuff?

Lewis Wetzel said...

Ukraine has problems. Serious problems.
Yanukovich was dirty. So was Tymoshenko.
It is fascinating to go into the crazy world of the Left on Ukraine. All of the lefty websites eagerly promote the idea that Manafort is the key to proving the US election was corrupted by Putin and Trump.
There is no evidence of this.
Nothing at all.
Instead they do the conspiracy theorist thing of drawing imaginary causal actions from the thinnest of connections.
They make leaps that amount to:
"Manafort had dealings with Ukraine. So did Putin. Therefore Putin put his mad h4xor skilz to use and gave Trump the presidency of the United States."
Yes, they really believe this. Fervently. They think that you are crazy if you you have the slightest doubt that this is true.

madAsHell said...

Yes, early 80's, and then after I retired from military I worked for them at the B-2 Software Lab in Oklahoma as a contractor.

I was at Boeing in Seattle. As you know, the aft-center-section (the bomb bay) was built at Boeing. I did the weapons avionics simulator. This was the test bed for the weapons delivery system. I learned a lot about weapon delivery. There were stories about phasing weapon delivery to enhance the ground wave....which I thought was genius.

Trump thought a MOAB was good enough.

Jim S. said...

Happy Easter, anyway. Christ is Risen.

He is risen indeed.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Dear madAsHell,

If you are described experience you may be ideal to answer this question. What degree of complexity, with what results in performance and cost, would be likely if you tried to turn a 7x7 into a bomber with internal bomb bays and weapon carriage leveraging its enormous capacity? Say the kc-46 turned into a gunship or BAMS or Missileer?

How hard would it be to manage the pressure in some way within the aircraft? A C-130 does it. With some kind of airlock bomb bay or just to run the whole rear of the aircraft unpressurized? what kind of changes would be required? Everyone snarks that you would be better off designing from the ground up spend your billions that way, but... Skeptical, as a Hostess would say.

Yancey Ward said...

"It is fascinating to go into the crazy world of the Left on Ukraine. All of the lefty websites eagerly promote the idea that Manafort is the key to proving the US election was corrupted by Putin and Trump.
There is no evidence of this.
Nothing at all."


How can you write this with a straight face!? WaPo has receipts demonstrating that Paul Manafort order and ate Chicken Kiev on at least two occasions in the last decade. In addition, it has been reported by reliable sources that Manafort was always trying to take The Ukraine when playing Risk while cackling, "The Ukraine is weak!"

Lewis Wetzel said...

linked from AL Daily: pics of Salinger's house.
https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/salingerhome.jpg
The house is a non-entity. Might have belonged to a Canadian curling champion. Our American "elites" are an embarrassment. They seem to have reached their level of highest competence teaching high school kids that George Washington never told a lie.

Ann Althouse said...

@Lewis

Why is that embarrassing?

He wanted to hide away from the world. The inconspicuousness of the house is consistent with the plan.

Jaq said...

Inga said she is Unknown99, not Classic Inga.

That should have been obvious to anybody. I believe that Classic Inga commented once on election night, before it became obvious that the corrupt old harridan was going down. This new one is just the latest incarnation of Unknown Troll.

Jaq said...

Hillary is a termagant, not a harridan but a termagant. Sometimes the mot juste escapes one first thing in the morning. ... Who am I kidding? She's both!

Mid-Life Lawyer said...

It's Boston Marathon Day! This is bigger than the Super Bowl to me. Great American contingent running this year. Good weather. NBCSN covering on live TV. About to go for a little run myself and then enjoy the spectacle.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

tim in vermont said...
Hillary is a termagant, not a harridan but a termagant.


It is a genuinely bizarre this obsession with Inga.


Jaq said...

I agree with you, it's not even the real Inga. It's almost as bizarre as your obsession with Milo.

Anonymous said...

I confess, I'm not the real Inga. The real Inga sure must've gotten to you people, so much so that you still discuss her at length. What a gal! If I were the real Inga I'd be so proud! Would the real Inga please start commenting again? If she does, I'll go back to being Unknown#99. Thanks Inga, please consider it.


Chuckling....

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Whatever happened to that nice young man Milo?

Rusty said...

Inga said...
"I confess, I'm not the real Inga. "

Really? That is indeed odd.


Blogger AReasonableMan said...
"Whatever happened to that nice young man Milo?"

Why don't you use your Google powers and get back to us.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Inga said...
I confess, I'm not the real Inga. The real Inga sure must've gotten to you people, so much so that you still discuss her at length. What a gal! If I were the real Inga I'd be so proud! Would the real Inga please start commenting again?


Although I am not a dedicated Ingaologist, unlike much of the Althouse commentariat, I think you actually make a better Inga. The old one used to get a bit drunk at night.

Gahrie said...

Whatever happened to that nice young man Milo?

He's hanging out with Anthony Weiner.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Blogger Ann Althouse said...
@Lewis

Why is that embarrassing?

He wanted to hide away from the world. The inconspicuousness of the house is consistent with the plan.


It is also consistent with poor taste. A gambrel roof with a giant chimney in the middle? Inconspicuous like a '76 Pacer with a vinyl roof is inconspicuous.

Anonymous said...

Tsk, tsk. So the classic Inga couldn't hold her liquor, huh? I've heard tell she had many cats and pretended they were her children!

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Inga said...
I've heard tell she had many cats and pretended they were her children!


Again, I lack the deep abiding interest in this topic that many of our colleagues here at Althouse share, but my impression was that this was not the case.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Like you, Inga talked a lot of s***. Why don't you just name yourself Legion and be done with it? But Ann, if this one isn't to be counted as trying to ruin the blog, I don't know what is.

Ann Althouse said...

"But Ann, if this one isn't to be counted as trying to ruin the blog, I don't know what is."

It's a back and forth problem. Both sides bear responsibility. I sometimes delete, but if you see the problem, resist making it worse by responding to the personal interaction. Get back to the substance. Don't allow yourself to be baited.