... maybe your "brows" are right.
When did the word "brows" get to mean "eyebrows"? It sounds perfectly nutty to me. This ad was posted in the window of a waxing place on State Street. Meade took the photo (complete with window reflections). There's so much wrong with this ad, but it does suggest that waxing is about getting a sense of control in life.
Anyway... this is a café post. You can talk about whatever you want.
Here's the other photograph Meade texted me as he was out walking today:
A nicely designed van and you can probably figure out why he thought I would be amused.
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Cool "no shorts"
BTW, electrician is one of those jobs least likely to be replaced by robots.
In case anyone wants to give out career advice.
She looks more forlorn than that lobster. Is she a room service call girl?
How do you make a Norwegian zoo?
Build a fence around Stoughton.
I think I understand the walk-of-shame.
You know.....where you walk home with your panties in your purse because you forgot to throw them under the bed to sabotage his next relationship (yeah....this happened to a friend. Twice!!)
Hopefully, you remembered to leave your earrings on the night stand.
But I fail to understand eating the left-over room service.
So, is "No Shorts" an ad-mobile for the waxing joint?
"It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
I suppose I am just slow, but it only occurred to me today how apt this quote is for The Current Year.
I don't know whether you are really amused, Ann.
But I am.
"BTW, electrician is one of those jobs least likely to be replaced by robots."
20th century: jobs Americans won't do
21st century: jobs robots won't do
We are all immigrants now.
Thank you for the Café post, Professor. I think this might your first since retirement. I relied on them quite a bit last summer when planning a trip to Madison - Meade and Madison Man were quite helpful. Glad to see a return.
It is futile to rail at the "journalists" of the MSM. They provide the product their editors want or get fired, and their editors provide the product the owners want or get fired.
@tcrosse, the Danes did it first, and in a better climate (near Santa Barbara, CA), and are making good money from it. Look up Solvang.
When I was in Madison I had to get some ice cream down by the lake.
The MSM sure is agitated about Trump saying "he believes" as many as 3 to 5 million illegal votes may have been cast in this last election.
I am amazed to see the names going off the rails about this.
Makes me kind of wonder if it can really be that bad?
Since I turned 30 my "brows," already thick, have grown more wild and wiry than ever before. I've got to get it together.
Seeing rumors going 'round that Trump is going to defund NPR and PBS. ("Can Trump Do That?")
That would be glorious.
"In case anyone wants to give out career advice."
Yes, and no.
Speaking generally (i.e. acknowledging all sorts of exceptions) a really sharp and assertive person becoming an electrician can expect, after many years learning and working for others, to own a company and have a handful of electricians working for them. This results in decent dough, maybe Althouse-type dough.
But, the same assertiveness and smarts focused on a field w/ less upside limits than being an electrician can get way more dough.
IOW, don't just assume that making a killing as an electrician is a viable alternative for someone who couldn't get through college. To assume this is to misunderstand the skills that electricians need master. This is especially true for folks who become the owners of decent sized electrician bizs.
IMHO.
My brows are furrowed. I need to update my browser.
Btw,
is the chick in the pic drinking milk and eating steak tartare (w/o an egg or chopping)?
Even so, she's hot.
@Althouse, recently you linked a blonde young man at the Trump inauguration with "Tomorrow Belongs to Me," from Cabaret.
But, you know, wasn't it the Democrats who fell in love with the theories in "The Emerging Democratic Majority" by Ruy Teixeira and John Juris? At its heart wasn't that book all about how Tomorrow Belongs to the Democrats? Just thought I'd ask.
Here in Moore County NC we have a Shorts Electric contractor. When I first saw thier truck I thought it was a joke, but apparently not. I think Short is the name of the guy that owns the company. They do good work.
"Seeing rumors going 'round that Trump is going to defund NPR and PBS. ("Can Trump Do That?")
That would be glorious."
He'd be a fool not to defund them.
Getting rid of the Fairness Doctrine in 87 was a great success for the average, real American. Anything we can do to get rid of these lib liar lamestream folks will further benefit real, average Americans.
If these sorts of lib manipulative propagandists could be shutdown the job creators would be freed to trickle down on the average, real Americans.
MAGA!
@Anglelyne,
Seeing rumors going 'round that Trump is going to defund NPR and PBS. ("Can Trump Do That?")
Oh, Anglelyne, pish-posh! (excuse my language!)
We have all been assured, in countless telephone fundraisers by your local educational TV & radio stations, that they receive no federal funds. Why, even Trump can't cut a stream of funds that doesn't exist!
Surely, you can't be implying that such morally outstanding individuals like Diane Rehm would ever lie to us!
@Big Mike,
But, you know, wasn't it the Democrats who fell in love with the theories in "The Emerging Democratic Majority" by Ruy Teixeira and John Juris? At its heart wasn't that book all about how Tomorrow Belongs to the Democrats? Just thought I'd ask.
Oh, yes, when that came out The New Republic basically had an orgasm over it. There were "popularizer" versions of the same thesis. The tome had a sizable part to play in this year's Democratic devastation.
This idea on the Left that they can see the arc, the right side, the left butt cheek, the whatever, of history has caused them & their victims no end of misery.
Interesting test: hold your two hands, palms towards you, in front of yourself, relaxed.
Does your right hand 4th finger lean towards your pinky?
That's mouse hand.
PB&J,
The problem is that many of those careers with a greater upside today are high on the list to be automated away, or largely so.
Lawyers for instance, and non-surgeon physicians, or so limited in demand that intake into the training gateway will become much more selective.
To these I think I'm safe in including plenty of financial industry jobs, which will lose much of their rank-and-file career starting points.
And many engineering jobs also, where we are already seeing a loss of a lot of the entry-level.
"the job creators would be freed to trickle down on the average, real Americans."
Imagine a life where no job creator ever trickled down on you. Thankfully, I was trickled on heavily, which watered my ambition enough to grow from a homeless young sapling into a trickler myself who has grown a substantial forest of new strong trees. Of course some prefer a dry desert landscape where all trees are equal.
Trump's America.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/federal-agencies-trump-information-lockdown-234122
"Federal agencies are clamping down on public information and social media in the early days of Donald Trump's presidency, limiting employees’ ability to issue news releases, tweet, make policy pronouncements or otherwise communicate with the outside world, according to memos and sources from multiple agencies.
The steps to mute federal employees — seen to varying degrees in the Environmental Protection Agency and the departments of the Interior, Transportation, Agriculture and Health and Human Services — are sparking early fears of a broader crackdown across the government, as Trump vows to pursue an agenda sharply at odds with his predecessor.
“It’s ironic that Trump based his entire campaign on Twitter and social media and now he’s preventing the staff that work from him from communicating with the public,” Purchia added."
"At its heart wasn't that book all about how Tomorrow Belongs to the Democrats? Just thought I'd ask."
Yes. Hence the howling tantrums we are seeing now.
"The steps to mute federal employees — seen to varying degrees in the Environmental Protection Agency and the departments of the Interior, Transportation, Agriculture and Health and Human Services — are sparking early fears of a broader crackdown across the government, as Trump vows to pursue an agenda sharply at odds with his predecessor."
Another example of bratty leftist hysteria. It's clearly a temporary measure. Trump doesn't want tweets and information going out that is designed to undermine his presidency until Pruitt is confirmed. He knows very well the EPA bureaucrats didn't vote for him and they know very well they're slated for cuts.
The move makes sense but of course, it's going to send leftists into another screaming spaz attack. What's the difference between 2 year olds and leftists? 2 year olds get tired of pitching hissy fits after a while.
Blogger Anglelyne said...
Seeing rumors going 'round that Trump is going to defund NPR and PBS. ("Can Trump Do That?")
That would be glorious.
Along with Planned Parenthood and several Federal Agencies.
And my understanding is, Congress allocates the money to be spent, the President actually spends the money. So, even if Congress doesn't stop allocating the money, for at least the next four years Trump can stop sending them checks.
Limiting the ability of employees to communicate independently to the public in an official capacity but without management sanction is standard in business.
Agreeing to an unvetted interview as an identified employee of an F1000 firm is almost universally a firing offense. Tweeting as an employee concerning the company business likewise.
@Sandy Colfax,
Federal agencies are clamping down on public information and social media in the early days of Donald Trump's presidency, limiting employees’ ability to issue news releases, tweet, make policy pronouncements or otherwise communicate with the outside world, according to memos and sources from multiple agencies.
One of the views held in DC by some federal workers & those that know the federal "space" is that the Obama administration in essence had no top-down control. The agencies had second, third & even fourth tier political appointees who were setting policy (e.g. did you ever see Obama or Arne Duncan get out in front for the Dept. of Education "Dear Colleague" debacle demanding that universities set up kangaroo courts for sexual offenses among students?). Indeed, even Hillary Clinton was reputed to have said to a dinner guest after her stint at State "There's no hand on the wheel!".
Well, Trump just put them on notice -- policy statements come through him. This is SOP for administrations. The Obama administration has just been loosey-goosey for eight years & we all got used to it.
Buw,
Sure, all of that is arguable. And, worth thinking about.
But, it doesn't matter because we're going to be jabbering about a handful of thousands of folks installing pipelines and a thousand or hundreds of folks here and there being turned into photo (Tweet) opportunities, in a nation of +300 mil, and a world of +7 bil.
Anywho, at some point folks will be unable to deny that these are distractions which are designed to trick them. Which is sad, but not in the A-hole way that DJT uses the word.
What did go wrong for that poor girl? I can think of five or so different scenarios but they all seem equally plausible.
Bag,
When are you relocating to Texas?
YoungHegelian: We have all been assured, in countless telephone fundraisers by your local educational TV & radio stations, that they receive no federal funds. Why, even Trump can't cut a stream of funds that doesn't exist!
"The CPB, not federal taxes, fund NPR!", she said, with wide Barbie eyes...
I would once have actually donated to NPR, despite their absurd partisanship, if they got off the federal teat. But the coverage went from partisan to full-throated yodeling for every batshit SJW/identity group fad to come down the pike. At the same time, our local affiliate, which once had an AM news channel and an FM classical channel, pretty much "disappeared" its classical programming. Wtf? Fuck you whiny nasally uptalking pseud philistines and the Prius you rode in on.
On the other hand, maybe keeping them around has its upside. There sure are a lot of once liberal men of my acquaintance who seem to have been propelled onto the hejira to Trumpistan by NPR's ever more cat-ladified programming.
"Wtf? Fuck you whiny nasally uptalking pseud philistines and the Prius you rode in on."
Hey, if they can't even afford a Tesla, they're not doin' to well.
to = too
No alarm over the numerous Executive Orders in the last few days? What happened to shrinking the Executive branch? What happened to the howls that the Executive was overreaching? Trump supposedly will be signing an Executive Order to shift federal funds to start building a wall on the Mexican border. Who is going to pay for the wall? Taxpayers, that's who.
PB&J,
You are looking at press release stuff of course, just like mass layoff announcements which are likewise made much of under different political contexts, and Im sure you have been around long enough to know what I mean - ahem, 1992, for instance. We were not born yesterday.
What you should care about are marginal costs of all kinds, which a relaxed regulatory regime (in many ways) can certainly deliver. Whether Trump can deliver, or whether it will work, I dont know. But if he can't, then no one else can.
Buw,
I have no doubt that DJT can deliver an easier biz and tax environment w/ less restrictions and taxes on the employer side of the employer/employee balance.
And, I don't have a problem w/ that, if it's sustainable.
But, I worry that at some point the non-employer side of the ledger is going to become quite agitated. In the interest of longer term stability, it seems like throwing them a bone or two now is better than feeding them blather while slipping the rug from under them.
Anywho, I don't doubt that DJT and Rs can suss out eight or twelve years of job creator benefits w/ BS in return, but it seems like that would just amplify the eventual fussiness of normal folks.
I dunno.
@Sandy,
No alarm over the numerous Executive Orders in the last few days? What happened to shrinking the Executive branch? What happened to the howls that the Executive was overreaching?
You mean orders overturning his predecessors executive orders? Or, Trump actually doing the things he said he'd do if elected?
When righties complain about 'Executive Overreach", they don't mean the Executive Branch not clearing the Dakota Pipeline. They may not like it, but it's a legit use of executive power.
Invading Libya without an AUMF from Congress, blowing up Americans without charges or trial overseas, sending planeloads of money to Iran with no Congressional oversight, the DoEd "Dear Colleague" letter, money to the Palestinians in spite of a Congressional freeze on the funds, sending out thousands of child immigrants to the states without informing the states where the Feds had put said immigrants -- these & many more besides are the abuses of Executive Authority that pissed off conservatives. Trump ain't nowhere close to those examples. Yet......
Yes, it's really annoying that classical music has been cut. I grew up in a non-musical family and had the usual adolescent rock music tastes. In my 20's I worked in an office with older people and they had the classical station on all day. That was my big introduction to classical music. I remember frantically scribbling down the titles of pieces I really liked - sometimes a challenge with classical music - and taking the list to the record store with me. It's sad to think that young people are unlikely to be exposed to it today, unless they grow up with parents who listen to it.
"Invading Libya without an AUMF from Congress"
Ha! Like the time they refused to give it to him re Syria and the red line? And, then they got all indignant re not doing anything re the red line.
YH, being a hack commenter is cool, but the key is to not make it so obvious.
To expand, I dont see a viable strategy to improve the labor force participation rate, and total employment rate, of traditional "worker" classes (age and sex) with any other strategy than Trumps.
Everything the other side was suggesting is pointless - education and retraining run up against competition, lack of demand for entry level labor, or for that matter a great deal of journeyman labor, or the inutility of training in the first place.
"You can bring a horse to water but you cant make him drink".
Anyone who has taught kids in high schools knows that very well.
If anyone wants to rate this adminstrations success or failure, there is a simple and transparent metric, the Population Employment Rate, age 16-64. You will find that and variants at the BLS and St. Louis Fed sites. This administration has made clear promises in this regard, unlike the last, which was very ... slippery.
Clear and accurate metrics = good management.
Sandy Coalfax said...
No alarm over the numerous Executive Orders in the last few days? What happened to shrinking the Executive branch? What happened to the howls that the Executive was overreaching?"
Oho, now the Executive is overreaching?
You leftists didn't mind at all when Obama was the one doing the overreaching. It's like the filibuster and the nuclear option - somehow you thought your own tools would never be turned against you.
Instant karma gonna get you....
Why don't folks just listen to Satellite radio, it's not expensive?
P.S. Is it possible that there's less golden years type music on the radio because y'all are becoming less relevant?
Just sayin.
"Federal agencies are clamping down on public information and social media in the early days of Donald Trump's presidency, limiting employees’ ability to issue news releases, ..."
Temporary, I'm sure.
"...tweet,..."
What the hell are they tweeting for?
"...make policy pronouncements..."
How do they know what policy is 5 days into the Administration?
"the Population Employment Rate, age 16-64."
Wages?
@LyinPB,
I know it's going to be difficult for you to comprehend, but, unlike you, I actually know facts.
You know why everyone got so pissed off about "Syria & the Red Line"? Because, that line wasn't in the text of the speech! Obama ad-libbed it so he'd look like he was a big macho fucker. Obama set the US up for a foreign policy humiliation because he ad-libbed a fucking line in a speech!
That's why the Congress rubbed his nose in it.
Hack or not, you dumb fuck, my point stands -- Obama didn't get an AUMF for Libya, & he then proceeded to screw it up royally.
I think the girl is pretty - but I'm not sure about the return to bushy eyebrows. I've always gone for the happy medium between overplucked space alien brows and Brook Shields style caterpillars.
Shorts are a big effin' deal in agricultural arenas...as in electrocutions.
harryo said...By the way I think bushy eyebrows on women are very attractive. The pencil-thin crap never gets me excited. Same with the birth canal. It needs to be hidden...
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Seems like a short in this ...do explain.
Mozart and Bach are "golden years type music?"
I wouldn't exactly lump them in with Perry Como.
As I said, I started liking classical music in my 20's.
Salt Lake City had their women's March yesterday (Monday) and had the largest crowd anyone can remember (about 6,000).There was a mass singing of this wonderful song:
looks like it's gonna be a hard road ... but I'm gonna walk it with you
"but I'm not sure about the return to bushy eyebrows."
I know a couple already extremely hot gals who were getting some sorta eyebrow thing done, it wasn't exactly a tattoo, but is sounded pretty permanent. I don't remember what they called it.
And, these weren't even my friends w/ fake tits. So, getting mods was a shock.
Anywho, I told them that they were gorgeous as-is, and they've put that plan on hold, for now at least.
Maybe they were just fishing for some approval.
I dunno.
That's right YH,
I'm retarded...I mean special. Thanks for teaching me.
Carry on.
That's nice, sunsong.
In the meantime, Trump's been busy. And :
New York (AFP) - Wall Street investors were back in rally mode Tuesday, pushing the S&P 500 and Nasdaq to new records and lifting the dollar against the euro on renewed optimism about US President Donald Trump's policies."
Keep on singing, though.
PB&J,
I am sitting here perhaps distracted by the telly, but I don't get what you are talking about re "a bone or two" and etc.
Note that there are a lot of negative trends to reverse, the big one is the collapse of small business formation and survival, as that was the big job generator. Employment has been concentrating in big businesses over the last three decades as they have the economies of scale to minimize the regulatory overhead.
And my other point stands - there is no other possible policy.
The last admin blathered much but did nothing because the only reasonable things to do were politically out of the question.
Median wages arent going to look so good for a while with a lot of entry-level hiring, which is what most are expecting.
Illegal work coming into the legal, reportable world for instance.
Who knows, maybe median income will improve, but I dont expect it.
The advert is just a current version of the "You've had a crappy day — treat yourself" sell.
Nothing new here.
No doubt today's media-savvy lifestyle consumers are immune to such oily persuasions.
Carry on.
"I know a couple already extremely hot gals who were getting some sorta eyebrow thing done, it wasn't exactly a tattoo, but is sounded pretty permanent. I don't remember what they called it."
I know what you mean - some sort of threading thing, done with a needle. There used to be a place near my office that specialized in it. It was owned by two Arab women and seemed to be quite popular with Muslim women. Don't know exactly what the procedure is.
"is the chick in the pic drinking milk and eating steak tartare (w/o an egg or chopping)?"
It's a lobster.
One door closes, another opens. She could have knocked on mine back in the day and gained instant admission.
Though I would have asked that the lobster stay in the hall.
Note also that I expect, if Trumps policies work and labor force participation increases, the official unemployment rate will increase. Yep.
The press will howl of course. Maybe PB&J will snark, but he has the math to know better.
Call me a prophet if this comes to pass.
"When are you relocating to Texas?"
Going to Nevada. Closing escrow on the new house next week. Start escrow on the new building this week. Moving 85 direct jobs and many more associated jobs out of here over the next 9 months. From L.A. county small business of the year in 2014, to exodus in 2017 costing them every single one of the millions of tax dollars our success provided, becuase liberals are dumb, and totalitarian, and the Californian variety are suicidal in degree.
It is the hardest thing I have ever attempted, and I may fail, but freedom, self-respect, and a future for my people are worth the risk. It's the same thing that got me and millions of other Americans to vote for someone we really don't care for. After 35 years here, I will leave a wonderful home that is walking distance from the beach and start a new one in the hot desert. In power, the Left is that bad, that destructive, and that stupid, so that it would drive people like me to that extreme. Pharaoh, will miss us more than we will miss him, becuase we are not the only ones. There are many just like us doing the same. We have no hope of voting ourselves a respectful, intelligent, un-corrupted government in LALA Land, but we can still walk away. The fact that Hillary won so decisively in California was like a sign from heaven that I really had no choice if I sincerely care about my people and my principles.
"Call me a prophet if this comes to pass."
Ok, but you'd be more of a prophet w/o the "if" qualifiers.
Just sayin'
P.S.
By bones, I mean worker's rights and such. And, my concern is that sometime down the road all these losers who don't bother to better themselves by getting into the professions that pay well will be out of excuses (e.g. minorities, the gov meanness, illegals, etc). Then, they'll show their true gov moocher colors, and the pols will succumb (like the Rs already have promised to do for their geezer constituents who expect more than they paid into medicare and soc sec).
Anywho, time will tell.
Eyebrow threading is just plucking using two threads to yank the hair instead of tweezers. Easier than waxing. It grows back.
Good luck Bagoh, Ive known many who have made your journey.
Most of the light industry of the LA basin and the SF East/South Bay actually.
bag,
What other than logistical proximity to the coast made Nevada a better choice than Texas?
Sandy Coalfax said... [hush][hide comment]
.... Trump supposedly will be signing an Executive Order to shift federal funds to start building a wall on the Mexican border. Who is going to pay for the wall? Taxpayers, that's who.
Right. Who gets the paychecks? Taxpayers, that's who. Who gets paid for supplying materials? Taxpayers, that's who. Who gets on the job training? Taxpayers, that's who.
Sally Boynton Brown..panderbear.
Re PBS and NPR.
Technology has bypassed them.
Netflix and Amazon and Youtube and thousands of podcasts.
Defunding will just put the moribund beasts out of their misery.
I've already booked my flights from the Islets of Langerhans to Teslaburg.
She don't need no waxin'.
~ ironrailsironweights
"No Shorts" is blocking the sidewalk. Never knew there are liberal electricians.
LPB: Why don't folks just listen to Satellite radio, it's not expensive?
Thanks for the tip, Captain Contempo. Who knew there were other sources of music available? What an age we live in.
P.S. Is it possible that there's less golden years type music on the radio because y'all are becoming less relevant?
Fine. So let those ultra-hip NPR cat-lady listeners pay for the programming they want, and we'll direct our resources to providers of the stuff we want to listen to.
Iow, defund NPR.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
David Baker said...Never knew there are liberal electricians.
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Collar of blue..might have Trumpin' in their heart.
"What other than logistical proximity to the coast made Nevada a better choice than Texas?"
The decision was due to Las Vegas being the closest big city outside California's borders. I wanted and needed to keep as many of my people as possible, so I need to stay close enough so they could maintain family and friend relationships within driving distance (4 hours). We need lots of support in a vendor base, and Vegas is just barely big enough, I hope.
We use a lot of electricity and it will be about 1/3 the cost there, mostly due to California law. Worker's comp insurance is about half. Most importantly, my people can afford to buy nice homes in nice neighborhoods which is prohibitive in L.A. They can get a better life and earn more with what we save in taxes and regulatory compliance. A number of other businesses near us have done the same thing - all manufacturing jobs. The only people moving in here are high tech like Google, SpaceX, etc who have very deep pockets from government and investor largess. Small businesses like us do not get those benefits, and those companies raise the cost of everything for the rest of us, and give politicians and bureaucrats a false sense of what's sustainable.
NPR plays no 19th century Latin pop, or Filipino dance music, or current Flamenco.
Youtube does.
And if I want to figure out what was up with the Spanish Baroque Youtube can dig me up stuff by de Nebra and Valls.
"mostly due to California law" Now that Enron can't F w/ y'all.
Btw, even though it'd be hard to believe, I am sympathetic to you. And, I do know that CA regs and taxes are insane.
But, you probably realize that after you sell them, your CA home and your staff's homes and your CA facilities will probably not be vacant. IOW, it may not be correct to assume that you leaving means nobody will take over your homes and facilities w/ other tax payers. It's even possible (depending on where you're located) that higher paying jobs could replace your lower end manufacturing jobs.
I dunno about what'll happen to what you leave behind, but I do know that I hope you kill it in the new location.
Electricity pricing is one of the worst policy failures in CA.
This was on its way to the rest of you courtesy of the Feds, the EPA and DOE, until this election. You all dodged a bullet there, one of many.
For a while anyway.
Enron had F-all to do with this PB&J.
I was here, I know what went down, and its not relevant anyway, 16 years later.
Buw, I wrote that Enron isn't a factor today.
But, clearly (there are even recordings) they were relevant in the past:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2005/feb/05/enron.usnews
Anyone here live in New York?
Thinking about moving there. Have questions.
It's in the belly of the beast, but I sort of perceive that the east coast leftism is perhaps a bit less hysterical than west coast leftism, which I can no longer abide. Plus, we would live out in rural Westchester County. Maybe we'd run into Clinton entourage!
I'm worried about cost of living though. Housing is expensive, but we're used to that in Seattle. Concerned about other hidden costs. What should I worry about? I've never lived in a state with income tax before. I've been told that blue states tax everything that is and isn't nailed down.
BTW, it' cool that Enron lobbied for deregulation, so the job creators could trickle down.
Pants,
In addition to income tax, expect to feel pain re property taxes.
Whatsa matter Pants? The vast "flyover" not suitable?
"It's even possible (depending on where you're located) that higher paying jobs could replace your lower end manufacturing jobs. "
We're in Compton, and there aren't a lot of rocket scientists here, so I doubt that SpaceX or Google will have many jobs to offer the people living here, so they bring them in from outside and buy up the property. We did have jobs for locals, and they learned how to work and escape dependency with marketable skills. In the end, as you say, I suppose the government and politicians will continue to get their funding from new taxpayers and then support them at the expense of the ones who elected them. So is that public service or corruption? It sure pays well, whatever you call it.
Ah, let us say the Enron participation in that mess was a marginal issue. They were opportunists. Like a jackal, one of many, come to feed on a mired elephant. Not the biggest jackal either.
It would be interesting to write a book just on that, the reasons why, its a mess that deserves one. The causes, like for many disasters, have very old roots.
Maybe when I retire.
Thanks for the info, Jessica. I'd see the threading ladies pulling on the needles as though they were stitching up their customers' foreheads and it would make me wince, although since I didn't hear any screams, I assumed it wasn't too bad.
I don't remember that technique as an option in my younger days, so I wondered if it was a Middle Eastern thing, or whether it was just the clientele of that particular shop.
Whatsa matter Pants? The vast "flyover" not suitable?
Career reasons -- need to be closer to NYC -- plus can't handle Texas heat anymore and Seattle (other home) is turning to complete shit (thanks Paul Allen!).
"(thanks Paul Allen!)."
What's your POV re Jeff and his 10 million square feet (incl the two new towers and other owned and leased space) of office space downtown?
The brass is libertarian, I'd love to see that "trickle down" to staff and voters.
What's your POV re Jeff
Deeply disappointed. It's his right to operate within the law to build his empire, but what he has chosen to do with that freedom has destroyed the city that many (including myself and five generations of my family) have loved so much.
Pants,
The thing that blows my mind is that Weyerhaeuser (Mock's stompin' ground) ditched that cool building to move downtown. They claim they needed to do that to attract talent that wouldn't want to be in a suburb.
I do understand that, and I love being in the city. But, it's not exactly cheap to have a beautiful house in the city. I've got to imagine that plenty of staff are going to be living out of the city, and then they'll need to commute to the city. So, these folks need to suffer w/ awful commutes so that their betters can have enchanted lives. This is the sort of thing that I worry about. Don't these normal folks eventually have a light bulb go off? OTOH, maybe the folks with such a light bulb predisposition find a way, through hard work, to not be in that situation. IOW, these average folks don't realize how much their lives suck, so they're content, and will continue to be so.
I dunno.
Pants,
May not translate into your world, but..
Having a friend in LA, I've noticed the influx of New Yorkers flocking there for lesser rents..
bagoh20 said...
Going to Nevada., , , , It is the hardest thing I have ever attempted, and I may fail, but freedom, self-respect, and a future for my people are worth the risk. It's the same thing that got me and millions of other Americans to vote for someone we really don't care for. .
You are an honorable person,bagoh20.
Dear Pants,
I'm your huckleberry. What do you want to know?
Heh..I supose bein a failed state contemplating suicidal secession rules out Cali...
Well...nice until da ship goes down..
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...
Career reasons -- need to be closer to NYC -- plus can't handle Texas heat anymore and Seattle (other home) is turning to complete shit (thanks Paul Allen!).
I'm kinda surprised you blame Allen. I blame Bezos. And RealNetworks(Maria Cantweell). I'm deep in Microsaoft Borg Land (Redmond WA) - F**k 'em all. Grew up with every 2nd father a Boeing engineer or other employee. God's country is now Nanny country. Wish I could convince hubby to leave.
I know it's been noted a bunch, but this blog has a crazy PacNW presence.
Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...
The thing that blows my mind is that Weyerhaeuser (Mock's stompin' ground) ditched that cool building to move downtown. They claim they needed to do that to attract talent that wouldn't want to be in a suburb.
F**ckin' Progs. Weyerhaeuser was based in Tacoma at one time. They moved to federal Way to be closer to SeaTac Airport. They worry about attracting talent to downtown Seattle - wish they would worry about talent at their mills (e.g., Raymond) and others. Hate what Seattle has become - don't blame Mock for moving.
Having a friend in LA, I've noticed the influx of New Yorkers flocking there for lesser rents..
Well, we wouldn't live in the city -- husband doesn't have to go into the office daily, so living up toward Katonah would do the trick. Train to Grand Central is only a bit over an hour. It seems a bit more reasonable to live out in the sticks; not Texas cheap but not city rent either.
The thing that blows my mind is that Weyerhaeuser (Mock's stompin' ground) ditched that cool building to move downtown. They claim they needed to do that to attract talent that wouldn't want to be in a suburb.
It's all very puzzling to me. No one grows up wishing to live in Federal Way, no, but right there off Highway 18 it seems like it's easy enough to get out to other communities. They're not cool like Pioneer Square, but doesn't anyone else want to NOT live in a condo? All I can figure is that for whatever reason the powers that be have decided that Seattle (and, increasingly, the inner burbs) belongs to 27 year olds with their fur babies and their Valtrex, and anyone who wants a house and kids can just go fly a kite.
K51
As if there wasn't enough pressure re Seattle being livable for normal folks, I've got to assume that Vancouver (BC) taxing Asians isn't going to help.
I actually know someone who had a place way out in Sequim who had an RE agent knock on their door and offer them cash, from a Chinese buyer, for their house. The house wasn't for sale. But, they did sell, because the dough was that good.
WTF?
?enchanted lives?
This city, wealthier by far than Seattle, is chock full of unhappy people living in expensive flats. Lonely ladies with no husbands and too old for children, young men with no women who will have them who stay in all day alone, and at least half of everyone on antidepressants.
Its very pretty but its no life for human beings. Its certainly no life of any sort for the next generation, because if it were up to the residents there won't be one. We were some of the lucky ones.
There is something about this place, its hard to put a finger on it. It feels strange. I felt it powerfully one Sunday walking along the Panhandle (near Haight) past a row of the usual restored Victorians, after block after block of these in the usual lovely cool sunshine in which you can walk tirelessly for hours, a place made for pedestrians and visiting and life and playing on the broad sidewalks, with no people anywhere, and certainly no children. It was like I was the last human on earth, and these were homes for some other sort of being that preferred to live in the dark behind their window shades and lace curtains. Creepy.
Seattle isnt much different.
Trump: Chyyynaaa!
I'm your huckleberry. What do you want to know?
So let's say we rent a house (buying is for after we run down the clock on his ex-wife's alimony) out there in the willies in northern Westchester County. I've seen a few with 4-5 bedrooms between 2-3k square feet for between $4-$5k a month. It'd be downsizing from what we're used to in Texas (while upsizing the rent, haha) but the kids (we have 5) will get over it.
What budget line items do I need to be aware of? How much are utilities going to run me, ballpark? Do public schools cover everything or are there activities fees? Car taxes? Tolls? Are there free fun things to do? I know this all varies wildly but opinions and general breeze-shooting welcomed.
buw,
The cool thing about Seattle is precisely that it's not at the SF level.
There's still time to hope for a different endpoint.
BTW buw,
I think you're understating the appeal of SF.
About a month ago, even Mike Savage was blathering, after a walk around town, about how beautiful the city and (some of) it's residents were.
Oh, its beautiful.
Not much on earth to compare it to.
It was built in detail by superb craftsmen, or large parts of it was, for a busy social life, right in the most perfect natural setting on earth.
But most of it gives an excellent impression of a ghost town. An extremely well maintained ghost town.
Some parts are alive indeed, and I like those best, lower Mission street and Grant, but these are down-market and I don't think thats what Mike Savage or you have in mind.
You can tell though that it wasn't always that way.
"Concerned about other hidden costs. What should I worry about?"
Transportation costs. Depending on your location, that may be daily turnpike, train, bus, taxi.
Most people don't commute into the city with a car, as there is no cheap place to park it. Plus, if you screw up, and get it towed, even one time will put a dent in your ice cream budget.
Lyin' PB. . .
Everything is upside down. We live on acreage in Redmond (Microsoft Borg land, I call it) but it's worthless because thanks to "growth management", we cannot sub-divide. 10 minutes from Microsoft, but can't sub-divide. Meanwhile, City of Redmond is on back property line with 16 homes per acre. Crazy. Your friend in Sequim is lucky - no one comes knocking on our door.
However. . . . we raised our kids in mud, a creek and ponds. They had a glorious childhood. No regrets. F**k money.
BTW pants,
OK, now you're hitting an issue that really animates me.
If you're paying $60 grand for rent every year, does it matter if you hit a toll road?
In Seattle I've heard folks worth hundreds of millions bitch about the toll roads, which makes them sound like crazy people. For Fs sake, do the Fing math, you make $36 grand a day, I'm pretty Fing sure a handful of bucks to avoid traffic isn't a big deal.
A more reasonable fear is that normal folks may start to resent a dude blowing past them in a 488. That's why God created the Toyota Land Cruiser to disguises rich folks, especially when they're in their country homes.
BTW,
How many folks here know that getting a basic Land Cruiser will get you to $90,000?
See?
Mike Savage routinely refers to it as San Fran Sicko.
But he's also erratic and prone to romanticism when his blood chemistry allows.
I still remember the smell of urine and in yer face pan handling I experienced there in late 90's. Surely that's been remedied, right? ;)
"But he's also erratic and prone to romanticism when his blood chemistry allows."
One of the best examples of this has to be the love-fest-ish interview he did w/ Jerry Brown a number of years ago.
He's definitely over that.
Pat's, I think more on this for you later, but just throwing this out there, have you considered either Long Island or New Jersey? Possibly one of the outer boroughs? all throughout one cost number for you, the monthly commutation to get to Grand Central from the Connecticut border is 273 a month. You will probably want to do this because parking will cost you $20 a day, more if you drive an SUV, and depending on when you commute, traffic can be not so hot. Although New York roads are magnificent to Dr on those times and occasions when there is no traffic. property taxes are lower in the city than in the suburbs. just for argument's sake, you might look at a nice old huge Victorian or Georgian gingerbread house in the Ditmas Park neighborhood of Brooklyn. Again it is late, happy to engage with you more later.
Blogger Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...
BTW,
How many folks here know that getting a basic Land Cruiser will get you to $90,000?
See?
1/25/17, 12:54 AM
But why would you do that when you can get a GMT800 Suburban for $5k that will have you asking what's a Land Cruiser?
Curious place SF.
By land area, a great deal is as I say high-toned creepy, like a really well produced Twilight Zone episode.
Other places have their own sort of weird.
A lot of the public spaces have every sort of bum, and they certainly arent going away. Nothing new there, its been going on since the early 80s I'm told.
Go south of Market from @20th St. and you will run across block after block of tents pitched on the sidewalks, bivouacs of this army of occupation.
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...
Anyone here live in New York?
Thinking about moving there. Have questions.
It's in the belly of the beast, but I sort of perceive that the east coast leftism is perhaps a bit less hysterical than west coast leftism, which I can no longer abide. Plus, we would live out in rural Westchester County.
Rural Westchester County? At 2109 people per square mile? You want rural, move to Wayne County, 153 per square mile. And great apples in season. Home of the annual Potatofest in Savannah, and Peppermint Days in Lyons, and numerous other local festivities. Which go on without rioting and beatings, unlike big city fests.
Back in the PI the old Toyota Land Cruiser 1960s-70s versions, always white, were what politicians put their bodyguards in, they themselves being chauffered around in American sedans with dark tinted windows.
You'd get three or four Land Cruisers and a Sedan, one politician, one driver in uniform, a couple of flunkies and a dozen or so beefy guys with no necks. Filipino goons are very much along the lines of goon central casting.
When politicians met it was like a Land Cruiser collectors convention. They got street parking of course. Goes without saying everyone had to move their cars.
buw,
Re, as you observe, the folks of SF, maybe a rereading Ivan Ilyich's fate would be as helpful as anything else. Short and to the point.
And, some cons here doing the same (I'm not naming names, incl the proprietors) may see a bit more light, too.
JK, never mind that. Y'all are totally right.
Carry on.
If you're paying $60 grand for rent every year, does it matter if you hit a toll road?
Not hugely, but just want to be prepared for it, as the only time I pay tolls now is when we go up to Austin and enjoy the empty 100 mph freeway. Agree that people are funny about nickels and dimes sometimes.
Most people don't commute into the city with a car, as there is no cheap place to park it. Plus, if you screw up, and get it towed, even one time will put a dent in your ice cream budget.
Yeah, my husband mostly works from home (I'm a homemaker) but occasionally would go into the city to his office, which he would do by train and foot. He wouldn't bring a car in, and in fact we would probably drop down to being a one-car family.
Pat's, I think more on this for you later, but just throwing this out there, have you considered either Long Island or New Jersey? Possibly one of the outer boroughs? all throughout one cost number for you, the monthly commutation to get to Grand Central from the Connecticut border is 273 a month. You will probably want to do this because parking will cost you $20 a day, more if you drive an SUV, and depending on when you commute, traffic can be not so hot. Although New York roads are magnificent to Dr on those times and occasions when there is no traffic. property taxes are lower in the city than in the suburbs. just for argument's sake, you might look at a nice old huge Victorian or Georgian gingerbread house in the Ditmas Park neighborhood of Brooklyn. Again it is late, happy to engage with you more later.
I asked my husband about Long Island (he grew up in Chappaqua and so knows the area) and says it's a giant pain in the ass to get into the city because there is only one train. Although perhaps I should bring that back up to him since part of our planning incorporates infrequent commuting. My concern is getting a decent sized house for our large family. He would love to live in the city but we have five kids and I'm not sure how feasible that is. I will look at the neighborhood in Brooklyn you mention, however. I love the energy of the city but so far have been assuming we couldn't make it work. I'm open to New Jersey; just need to find the sweet spot somewhere, where we can afford a house big enough for us with some pretty around it (that's half the reason to get the hell out of Texas; I need something besides brushland and mesquite trees to look at) that is around an hour or less from the city.
thanks for the chitchat, guys :)
Rural Westchester County? At 2109 people per square mile? You want rural, move to Wayne County, 153 per square mile. And great apples in season. Home of the annual Potatofest in Savannah, and Peppermint Days in Lyons, and numerous other local festivities. Which go on without rioting and beatings, unlike big city fests.
Well, relatively rural, anyway!
Wayne County? Might as well live in Toronto, which my husband has tried in vain to talk me into before.
BTW, thinking of literature, who better describes the so-called human condition Rand or Tolstoy?
[Hint, this is not a trick question. I.e., if you're struggling to think of an answer, that says somethin' bout ya. And, if you pick the wrong answer.....er......oh my.]
My dad was an electrician. The back of his truck said "Let us remove your shorts".
That was the 70's. People laughed. No one took offense.
The decision was due to Las Vegas being the closest big city outside California's borders.
Really not a fan of the city. My partner grew up there, and still has family there. And I was in and out, every couple weeks, when I was last in a law firm. We had a beautiful office, with a beautiful view of the strip. Could catch a plane in Reno, pop down there on SWA, runner would pick me up at the airport, office a mile or two away, meet clients, back to the airport, to Reno, and to the office by mid afternoon. And, it wasn't bad, though the airport sucks pretty bad. But, the seamier side rears up fairly quickly. Getting propositioned by (illegal) hookers whenever you walk across the floor at a lot of the casinos with gray hair and a sports coat. Getting solicited for spare change whenever you get a mile off the strip. Horrible traffic, around the clock (since Vegas is a 24 hour town). Immigrants handing out cards to strip clubs on the strip. My list goes on. A lot of corruption there still, even with the mafia mostly underground and in the board room now. Everyone trying to get rich quick.
Oh, and the state is going wacko leftist. Thanks to the casinos (and, to, at some point in the past, extractive industries), unions have more power there than most anywhere else in the west. Thanks to a wad of Blumburg cash, state passed some ridiculous gun laws this last Nov. And, Harry Reid's seat was filled by another Dem. Republican Governor is decent, but the Rep Senator is a complete tool, and I wouldn't be surprised if he lost next time around.
One thing we discussed a couple days ago, and you need to keep your eyes open for - it is the worst place around for anyone with an addictive personality. Most obviously, gambling is an issue (her first husband was an executive chef there, and one of his peers there lost his house from his wife's gambling), but other types of addictions can also be bad there - sex, alcohol, drugs, etc.
One of the weird things about the town is that it still has a very strong Mormon presence. For example, even now, it is suggested that you have a Mormon atty at the counsel table if you ever get into a decent sized court case. They don't have to sit first chair, just be there visible. Don't know how everyone knows who the Mormons are, but they seem to. Maybe some sort of secret hand sign or something.
Still, they are close to Front Sight, and my partner has family and close friends there, so I have been suggesting that we pop up there in the next couple months, leave her in Vegas, while I go shooting.
Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...
BTW, thinking of literature, who better describes the so-called human condition Rand or Tolstoy?
[Hint, this is not a trick question. I.e., if you're struggling to think of an answer, that says somethin' bout ya. And, if you pick the wrong answer.....er......oh my.]
1/25/17, 1:59 AM
Well, Ayn Rand predicted the moperies of the Obama left for eight years without a hitch, but on the other hand if I say Tolstoi, I can ejaculate into my maidservants as if they were Kleenex, right? I'm guessing you picked ol' Leo.
Here's a bad poster from the Women's March. Oh, and thank you to all the marchers. Thanks for the idiocy, vulgarity, the condescending and pathetic "stars", the untra left wing and feminist dogma. That's why you lost the election.
The funny thing about the March is these idiots look around at their members, think it represents some ground swell movement, and that it's the path to victory in 2018.
The woman in the "Brows" advert at the top of this thread is obviously joining Trump in mocking a disabled reporter. LOOK AT HER HANDS!
Somewhere, Meryl Streep is fake-crying while tutt-tutting her disapproval.
I just moved to Tucson to get out of California. Son and DIL annoyed that I would go so far from grand children but CA is just going crazy.
Phoenix is closer but hotter and everybody lives in the suburbs. I can commute to Phoenix once or twice a week once we get settled. It's 105 miles but I did the same thing from Orange County to LA and the time involved is the same or less while the distance is twice.
Tucson is a very nice town and I have been spending time here for 25 years. My youngest daughter went to U of A.
I have friends who moved to Vegas about ten years ago and have been trying to sell their house to move back for eight. Not for me.
Great electrician van!
Some businesses compete in fun fashion over logos and taglines. Porta-potties are big on this. I saw "Scottie's Potties: we're #1 in the #2 business."
Michael K, it's good to hear you're settled in Tucson. That's an under-appreciated area. [Shh...don't tell anyone.]
Petition to add The 'Buffett Line' for voluntary additional contributions to tax returns...
The Buffett Line.
In the Hotel Hallway...
“Miss, are you okay?”
“Sure. Yeah. I’m OK.”
“Did you lose your key?”
“It’s inside. My boyfriend kicked me out.”
“I’ve worked in Hotel management for twenty years, dear, I’ve seen it all. Was he drunk?”
“Yeah, but not drunk-drunk. He didn’t hit me or nothing. He just said I wasn’t coming back in until I agreed to anal.”
“Maybe I could get you a taxi…”
“I’m fine, here. It was my mistake, really.”
“Your mistake?”
“Yeah. He asked me if I ever did anal, and I told him about my black ex-boyfriend in college with the huge cock. Like, really huge.”
“Talking about past lovers can be a dicey proposition…”
“Oh yeah. I told him that, after having anal with that huge black cock, I swore I would never do anal again.”
“That’s understandable.”
“I mean, the cock was REALLY huge.”
“Yes, you’ve said that.”
“Then he got all hurt that I would have anal with someone, but not with him.”
“Men get jealous over the silliest things, dear.”
“Yeah. He said if his cock wasn’t good enough for my ass then maybe he needed to rethink our relationship. Then he kicked me out of the room.”
“Like I said, I can call you a tai…”
“It’s just that my black ex-boyfriend’s cock was huge. I don’t even know how it fit in the first place.”
“So how long are you going to wait out here in the hallway?”
“I don’t know. Until one of us changes our minds, I guess.”
“But what if he doesn’t change his mind.”
“Then I guess I’m going to be letting him stick his cock up my ass. At least it’s not a huge cock, right?”
“That may make a difference…”
“In fact, compared to my black ex-boyfriend’s huge cock my new boyfriend’s cock is rather small.”
“I see you have a lot to think about.”
“And my new boyfriend comes pretty quickly. It would probably be over in less than a minute.”
“This might not be my place to ask, but why are you with this guy?”
“Because my parents don’t want me to date black men anymore. I’ve dated a lot of black men. And they’ve all had huge cocks.”
“That DOES make this tricky…”
“Did I mention his cock is small?”
“Yes you did, dear…”
“Thank you for listening to me. I think I’m just going to sit here and think some more.”
“Okay, dear. Let me know if you need anything from me…”
“Actually: does the hotel have any lube? You know: just in case..."
I am Laslo.
Those "brows" are considered "right"? O...K...
The nice thing about Las Vegas, if anything in Sin City can be nice, is that there is a minimum of Virtue Signalling. OTOH Whole Foods has a presence here.
There are parts of Vegas far from the Strip where gracious living is available at reasonable cost.
Bad Lieutenant said...
Dear Pants,
I'm your huckleberry. What do you want to know?
1/25/17, 12:02 AM
I have always loved that phrase. Looked it up the first time I heard it. It is a beut!
I would like to read an Althouse analysis of the brow pic.
buwaya said...
BTW, electrician is one of those jobs least likely to be replaced by robots.
In case anyone wants to give out career advice.
One of the dumbest things I ever did, probably the dumbest, certainly the least far-sighted, was to turn down an opportunity to become an HVAC technician in NW FLorida.
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...
1/25/17, 1:56 AM
I assume you have considered the weather and winter and snow and ice storms and such? I grew up on the island and just hated the cold, damp winters and the ice storms. If you are not used to it, it can be a shock.
That's an under-appreciated area. [Shh...don't tell anyone.]
Everybody I work with in Phoenix (I've been working there for months) talks about how they love Tucson. They are in Phoenix for work but would rather live in Tucson.
Tucson has Davis Monthan AFB and the U. Lots of retired military but the snowbirds that I got to know over the years are having trouble because of the ZIRP and too many have their money in bonds. I think that may have depressed housing prices here, which I am taking advantage of.
I don't get why eyebrows are such a big deal to women. Unless something is freakishly different about eyebrows, I don't notice them. Do most men?
I've always been fascinated by Meade's eyebrows.
Seriously.
The shape seems roguish.
For women of a certain age, being able to wax eyebrows is not an issue. Brows become much more sparse with age, and blondes seem to have a harder time finding a natural color of brow pencil. See recent pictures of Debbie Reynolds, for example.
"I don't get why eyebrows are such a big deal to women. Unless something is freakishly different about eyebrows, I don't notice them."
I notice them all the time now that doing your brows is a thing.
Roguish eyebrows? You women sure do like the bad boys, don't you?
I've been told I get my brows from my Cherokee princess great great great-grandmother Elizabeth Warren.
If you want Upstate New York, here you go. The county I live in has a larger land mass than Rhode Island. The 2010 census was just over 27,000. We have more dairy cows than people. If you like Philidelphia Cream Cheese it likely came from our county. There are eight traffic lights and three stop lights. I have gone turkey hunting, hiking and fly fishing on the same day without getting into a vehicle. It regularly snows over 200 inches a winter and has topped 300. I can cross country ski from my back door on 76,000 acres of State land and have done so when the temperature was -20 F (not anymore). Spring is beautiful with its many shades of emerging green. Sumer is very pleasant (45 years without air conditioning), autumn is glorious and winter is white.
It pains me to say I would move to Idaho in a split second if not for my wife. She loves our house and location. (She also loves my eyebrows because she does them. I haven't been to a barber in 46 years and would not know how to act if I did go). Cuomo has started to throw money around getting prepared for 2020. If you like your guns, check him off your list right now. I recently read an article stating that for every one person moving to NY, two are leaving. I think taxes, lousy small business climate and the cold are the biggest motivators.
Pants, if you come you will be most welcome but be sure to nail down the real estate taxes. (County, Town, School and sometimes City or Village)
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